Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer tyre protection

2012-11-24 Thread Hendrik Fay

Good catch Wilton, I have to be careful and not hang around foreign forums.
Anyway the way things are going it won't be long before we are 
celebrating thanksgiving.


Hendrik
who has to keep telling daughter that it's biscuits, even though it says 
cookies on the box


On 22/11/12 01:00, WILTON wrote:

'Thought that was tyres, or have you guys joined US on that?  ;)

Wilton

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This is what ya need http://cheezburger.com/6690165504

Hendrik
who is off to fit some old tires to the car






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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Rolf
Pull the clip and pop the hose out. No need to get under for the oil drain, it 
just pops right off. You and also get the feed from up top, its just a blind 
shot (although maybe not with fed manifold now that I think about it.

Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Behind the injector pump is a coolant connection 
with a 32mm nut at the head and a metal keeper 
clip.  Is it taking off by pulling the keeper and 
sliding out an oring connection? Or, do you take 
the nut(bushing) out of the head?

Other than that, and crawling under to take loose 
the oil supply and turbo oil drain, the trans 
cooler lines and lower radiator hose, then I am 
ready to pull the head bolts.

Chain has maybe 1/2 ยบ stretch or less. 
Essentially it is negligible stretch.  Some good 
news.

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Rolf
I just left it all together.

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Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes I wired the chain to the sprocket. It does require two people 
and some finagling to put the head back on to work around the 
sprocket.

-Rolf

What about the chain guide on the IP side?  After the pins are 
pulled, can it be slid out before the head is pulled?  I am not 
worried about the banana rail the tensioner pushes on.it'll stay put 
as the head goes off and on.

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[MBZ] BenzPr0n

2012-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4AGoGBfQe8feature=youtu.be

--R

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Re: [MBZ] BenzPr0n

2012-11-24 Thread andrew strasfogel
Which car was yours, Rich?

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4AGoGBfQe8feature=youtu.be

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] BenzPr0n

2012-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas

Pick 3!  speakinawhich I gotta go buy wunnathem $320M Powerball tikkees.

--R

On 11/24/2012 10:40 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Which car was yours, Rich?

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4AGoGBfQe8feature=youtu.be

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Guess I shoulda started pulling the timing chain guide rail pins on 
the head earlier.  Top one came out ok.   Bottom one is recessed in 
the head.  That way it collects water and induces that good ol steel 
to aluminium chemical bond.  It appears to have no separation between 
the pin and the head.  I did try soaking and beating, but still broke 
the bolt.  I was able to turn out the broken bolt.


I'm not sure the goos ol mopar rust eater will help on this one. 
Because it is steel to alum chemical bond, not even the mopar stuff 
eats that.  But I think it does help to berak it free, along with 
flame wrench or wicked beating.


Is that pin supposed to be recessed in the head, or did someone push 
it in too far?


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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Max Dillon
I think mine was recessed as well.

Head is toast already, no?  Drill it out, or break the guide and get a new 
guide?


-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Guess I shoulda started pulling the timing chain guide rail pins on 
the head earlier.  Top one came out ok.   Bottom one is recessed in 
the head.  That way it collects water and induces that good ol steel 
to aluminium chemical bond.  It appears to have no separation between 
the pin and the head.  I did try soaking and beating, but still broke 
the bolt.  I was able to turn out the broken bolt.

I'm not sure the goos ol mopar rust eater will help on this one. 
Because it is steel to alum chemical bond, not even the mopar stuff 
eats that.  But I think it does help to berak it free, along with 
flame wrench or wicked beating.

Is that pin supposed to be recessed in the head, or did someone push 
it in too far?

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:

I'm not sure the goos ol mopar rust eater will help on this one. Because 
it is steel to alum chemical bond, not even the mopar stuff eats that.  
But I think it does help to berak it free, along with flame wrench or 
wicked beating.


One old bicycle mechanic's trick for stuck aluminum seatposts in steel frames 
was to turn it upside down and pour the seat tube full of ammonia. IIRC it 
wasn't very good for the aluminum seatpost, but it got it out of the frame so 
you could stick another one in.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Dieselhead

I think mine was recessed as well.

Head is toast already, no?  Drill it out, or break the guide and get 
a new guide?



--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD


I got it out.  Used a different bolt.  Yes, I have to take off the 
drain tube from under, and take out the lower bushing/nut for the oil 
supply tube for the turbo.   Then wire the cam sprocket and pull the 
camshaft.   Then headbolts, and then OFF with its head.


Should get done by 2-3.  THen off to get some scrimps and goodies. 
Pick up SWMBO and #1D and head off to the beach for sunset and shrimp.


I plan to pack up the head and take it home to prep.  seals and 
guides.  Then put it back together next trip.


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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Max Dillon
So this head you are taking off is good, but you suspect the head gasket?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I think mine was recessed as well.

Head is toast already, no?  Drill it out, or break the guide and get 
a new guide?


--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

I got it out.  Used a different bolt.  Yes, I have to take off the 
drain tube from under, and take out the lower bushing/nut for the oil 
supply tube for the turbo.   Then wire the cam sprocket and pull the 
camshaft.   Then headbolts, and then OFF with its head.

Should get done by 2-3.  THen off to get some scrimps and goodies. 
Pick up SWMBO and #1D and head off to the beach for sunset and shrimp.

I plan to pack up the head and take it home to prep.  seals and 
guides.  Then put it back together next trip.

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Dieselhead

The head is loose.

I have to go get a short hunk of chain to hook it up to the engine hoist.

Max, Yes, I am hoping the head is ok.  Not proven yet.

No inspection yet, as I have not lifted it up yet..   Just got it 
lose from the block.  Left exhaust manifolds and turbo hang on the 
head for now.


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[MBZ] R107 wheeler Dealers

2012-11-24 Thread clay monroe
http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/gorillavid.php?id=5yh03i539dce

http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/gorillavid.php?id=yu66szmeis8r

Season five kick off episode

clay

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Max Dillon
Exciting times!
-- 
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'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

The head is loose.

I have to go get a short hunk of chain to hook it up to the engine
hoist.

Max, Yes, I am hoping the head is ok.  Not proven yet.

No inspection yet, as I have not lifted it up yet..   Just got it 
lose from the block.  Left exhaust manifolds and turbo hang on the 
head for now.

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[MBZ] MB Tex Drivers Seat (or does it matter)

2012-11-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
I need the MB Tex (palomino) for my 240D, s drivers seat. I intend to
rebuild the seat going the noodle route but the MBTex is shot. Is the MB
Tex skin interchangeable for the front seats? Anyone have it laying around
taking up space? What can you get it for,  Rusty?

Bob R
1980 240D odo broke at 376K
2005 E320 124K
2006 Jetta TDI 146K
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Re: [MBZ] Chuffed!

2012-11-24 Thread clay monroe
I wondered that as well.  The chatty bloke seems to have a fresh set of wheels 
on every season.  Must be making buckets someplace else.  And they have been 
holding onto one or two rides

clay


On Nov 22, 2012, at 5:46 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Problem is that the math never adds up because they value their time
 and labor at ZERO.
 
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
 That tall fella who does all the work is pretty handy. I just watched the
 episode where the did a 914. The bloke the yappy guy bought it from ended
 up buying it back. Made me kinda want a 914.
 
 Bob R
 On Nov 22, 2012 4:21 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 clay monroe wrote:
 
 getting caught up on the british discovery channel wheeler dealers
 
 They have done a couple US cars.  Their take on new world electronics is
 the same as ours for Lucas.  Just bad mouthing quality left and right as
 they tackle issues.  Corvette seems to be the worst of the US cars they
 have done yet.
 
 
 
 The digital dash on the 1984 Corvette was said to be unreliable in 1990, I
 can imagine what another 20 years would do for it.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Head gasket has a 1/4 gap at the front into an oil passage.  Head 
looks ok.  I have it bundled up ready for the ride home.   Will find 
out then how bad the guides are.


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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Rolf


Got mine all buttoned up sans 7.5mm pump and its running just fine. Did 
some spirited driving and couldnt get it up over 80 c. Kinda scary. 
Wierd part is that my aux rad fan is on and wont stop running. Not sure 
what to think about that since it has NEVER cut on before...


-Rolf

On 11/24/2012 4:24 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Head gasket has a 1/4 gap at the front into an oil passage.  Head 
looks ok.  I have it bundled up ready for the ride home.   Will find 
out then how bad the guides are.


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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Fan switch is bad or the wire is grounded somewhere.  It won't ever go  
over 80C with the fan going and cool temps outside unless the  
thermostat is bad.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Max Dillon
Yep, that gap would do it.
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Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Head gasket has a 1/4 gap at the front into an oil passage.  Head 
looks ok.  I have it bundled up ready for the ride home.   Will find 
out then how bad the guides are.

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[MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Flushed the cooling system on the 300cd today. Went well, however, after I put 
the new coolant and thermostat in, the temperature went to about 110 centigrade 
and the top radiator hose was cold, as was the defroster. I drove it around the 
block, and the car stayed at 110, and on arriving home the thermostat appeared 
be open as the radiator was warm. I waited for the car (and me) to cool off. 
Just went out and drove it around the block and everything seems normal. Heat 
from the heater, temperature quickly went to 90 c and stayed there. What 
happened?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Craig
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Flushed the cooling system on the 300cd today. Went well, however,
 after I put the new coolant and thermostat in, the temperature went to
 about 110 centigrade and the top radiator hose was cold, as was the
 defroster. I drove it around the block, and the car stayed at 110, and
 on arriving home the thermostat appeared be open as the radiator was
 warm. I waited for the car (and me) to cool off. Just went out and
 drove it around the block and everything seems normal. Heat from the
 heater, temperature quickly went to 90 c and stayed there. What
 happened?

Cooling system had air in it and wasn't burped prior being run. When
you drove around the block, the higher RPMs forced the air blockage out
of where it was lodged.

Has your coolant level gone down?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread clay monroe
Did you fully burp the system?

Air backed up will compress and cause issues, so getting any stray air out 
allows the hot water to flow all around.  Might be that after letting it cool 
down, enough of the steam/compressed air escaped the system and more water was 
then able to complete its travels

clay


On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Flushed the cooling system on the 300cd today. Went well, however, after I 
 put the new coolant and thermostat in, the temperature went to about 110 
 centigrade and the top radiator hose was cold, as was the defroster. I drove 
 it around the block, and the car stayed at 110, and on arriving home the 
 thermostat appeared be open as the radiator was warm. I waited for the car 
 (and me) to cool off. Just went out and drove it around the block and 
 everything seems normal. Heat from the heater, temperature quickly went to 90 
 c and stayed there. What happened?
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Cooling system had air in it and wasn't burped prior being run. When
 you drove around the block, the higher RPMs forced the air blockage out
 of where it was lodged.
 
 Has your coolant level gone down?


That's what I figured. The coolant level dropped about a quart or less. I 
really don't like seeing the temp gauge go over 100. I squeezed the top 
radiator hose as I was filling it to try to burp out any air. Know of any other 
(more successful) tips?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread clay monroe
put it up on ramps when you fill so that the air has to travel upward to 
escape.  Light it off when you think it is full and keep it on the ramps until 
the needle starts to move.  Pop the cap and pour more water in until full, then 
cap it and pull off the ramps and hit the road

clay


On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
 Cooling system had air in it and wasn't burped prior being run. When
 you drove around the block, the higher RPMs forced the air blockage out
 of where it was lodged.
 
 Has your coolant level gone down?
 
 
 That's what I figured. The coolant level dropped about a quart or less. I 
 really don't like seeing the temp gauge go over 100. I squeezed the top 
 radiator hose as I was filling it to try to burp out any air. Know of any 
 other (more successful) tips?
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Thanks. I'll try that on the kids car this week. 

Rick
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On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:12 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 put it up on ramps when you fill so that the air has to travel upward to 
 escape.  Light it off when you think it is full and keep it on the ramps 
 until the needle starts to move.  Pop the cap and pour more water in until 
 full, then cap it and pull off the ramps and hit the road

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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Russ Williams
Put it up on ramps. Remove upper radiator hose from radiator. Loosen 
same hose at thermostat
housing then rotate hose so end you removed is pointing up. Fill with 
mixed coolant until radiator
core is covered. Reattach hose to radiator then top off with coolant. 
Start engine and wait until temp '
rises and you get heat from heater. Back off ramps and shut down engine 
and check level.

Take for a test drive.
This is the way that the shop my buddy works at does it. They never have 
any problems

with air bubbles.

Russ W.

On 11/24/2012 19:53, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


Cooling system had air in it and wasn't burped prior being run. When
you drove around the block, the higher RPMs forced the air blockage out
of where it was lodged.

Has your coolant level gone down?


That's what I figured. The coolant level dropped about a quart or less. I 
really don't like seeing the temp gauge go over 100. I squeezed the top 
radiator hose as I was filling it to try to burp out any air. Know of any other 
(more successful) tips?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket

2012-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Ya think?  I took pictures.  The metal part of the gasket is actually 
blown up into the oil passage.  Maybe a quarter inch.  It is an 
impressive blowout.  I have never seen a gasket with a blowout like 
this.  I have seen a bigger blowout between cylinders (on a gas 
engine)   But a blowout into an oil passage, I have never seen 
anything like this.



Yep, that gap would do it.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


Head gasket has a 1/4 gap at the front into an oil passage.  Head
looks ok.  I have it bundled up ready for the ride home.   Will find

 out then how bad the guides are.
 


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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread OK Don
What he said - except that I used the steep slope part of the driveway
instead of ramps.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote:

 Put it up on ramps. Remove upper radiator hose from radiator. Loosen same
 hose at thermostat
 housing then rotate hose so end you removed is pointing up. Fill with
 mixed coolant until radiator
 core is covered. Reattach hose to radiator then top off with coolant.
 Start engine and wait until temp '
 rises and you get heat from heater. Back off ramps and shut down engine
 and check level.
 Take for a test drive.
 This is the way that the shop my buddy works at does it. They never have
 any problems
 with air bubbles.

 Russ W.





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2001 ML320
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

What happened?


Air bubble, big one.  My method is to pour the coolant
into the tank, pull off the upper radiator hose and
backfill water into the system until it's pouring out
over my hand which is holding the bottom of the hose
against the bottom of the radiator neck, but leaving
a crack at the top into which to pour water.  Then I
jam the hose on and tighten it up.

That gets rid of all the air, but what spills out is
all water since the coolant hasn't really mixed yet.

-- Jim



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