Re: [MBZ] I am confused
The VIN on my TDI Beetle shows it as a '01. The title says '02. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: It is a law of physics that marketing and reality shall never occupy the same space at the same time... Grant... On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Even Frod's 1964 1/2 model year made more sense. If they miss the late summer model year introductions, they like to go up a model year. It's been this way for a while. My 1980 Chevy Citation was made in February 1979 IIRC. There was no 1983 Corvette because the C4 chassis wasn't ready in the summer of 1982. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
Speaking of AC, I noticed when I was under the car this week, I noticed that the AC compressor is pretty accessible from below. Since all he needs to get the system running again is a clutch coil, I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. I haven't looked at the procedure in the service manual for a while, so I'm going to revisit it this weekend. With a couple of weeks off for the holidays, I've got time to take this on. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
Hans Neureiter wrote: The VIN on my TDI Beetle shows it as a '01. The title says '02. Can the dealer do that, or would it have to be a mistake in the factory paperwork or in data entry with DMV? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
If you can purchase the special tool for fifty bucks or less, get it. Well worth avoiding opening up the system and removing the compressor, makes the job far easier. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Speaking of AC, I noticed when I was under the car this week, I noticed that the AC compressor is pretty accessible from below. Since all he needs to get the system running again is a clutch coil, I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. I haven't looked at the procedure in the service manual for a while, so I'm going to revisit it this weekend. With a couple of weeks off for the holidays, I've got time to take this on. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. Jaime On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: This is still 2012, right And next year is 2013? https://www.facebook.com/**media/set/?set=a.**557112804316753.139225.** 112336898794348type=1https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.557112804316753.139225.112336898794348type=1 --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
I'll have to dig up the number. Maybe I can get it through the Q. Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you can purchase the special tool for fifty bucks or less, get it. Well worth avoiding opening up the system and removing the compressor, makes the job far easier. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Speaking of AC, I noticed when I was under the car this week, I noticed that the AC compressor is pretty accessible from below. Since all he needs to get the system running again is a clutch coil, I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. I haven't looked at the procedure in the service manual for a while, so I'm going to revisit it this weekend. With a couple of weeks off for the holidays, I've got time to take this on. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. It's kinda necessary. I couldn't find one at an acceptable price, when I needed it, so I made one: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#clutchtool (I recommend trying to buy one! We're talking Nippondenso here?) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
I don't know the details of the sales figures, but you can be sure the marketing people know exactly what they're doing. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
Hahahahahahaaha! Now THAT is funny! On Dec 14, 2012 9:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the details of the sales figures, but you can be sure the marketing people know exactly what they're doing. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
I thought someone might enjoy that... On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Hahahahahahaaha! Now THAT is funny! On Dec 14, 2012 9:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the details of the sales figures, but you can be sure the marketing people know exactly what they're doing. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
I don't remember what tools I used, but I swapped the clutch from my MB NipponDenso compressor to a toyhonsan ND compressor I got at a junkyard. That was for my first SDL. I did not need or use any special tool. I think I used large sockets and /or box wrench and the rubber band wrench to hold the pulley. There is a writeup somewhere in the archives. As with any elect. clutch, the gap is important. I'll have to dig up the number. Maybe I can get it through the Q. Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you can purchase the special tool for fifty bucks or less, get it. Well worth avoiding opening up the system and removing the compressor, makes the job far easier. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Speaking of AC, I noticed when I was under the car this week, I noticed that the AC compressor is pretty accessible from below. Since all he needs to get the system running again is a clutch coil, I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. I haven't looked at the procedure in the service manual for a while, so I'm going to revisit it this weekend. With a couple of weeks off for the holidays, I've got time to take this on. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
- Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com Hahahahahahaaha! Now THAT is funny! On Dec 14, 2012 9:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the details of the sales figures, but you can be sure the marketing people know exactly what they're doing. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. If the size, number, and cleverness of the ads we see here in Central Florida are any indication, the dealers are desperate to get rid of their 2013 stock. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. It's kinda necessary. I couldn't find one at an acceptable price, when I needed it, so I made one: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#clutchtool (I recommend trying to buy one! We're talking Nippondenso here?) -- Jim Oh yeah, I remember that writeup now. I think i must have held the pulley somehow with the shaft vertical and then whacked a drift punch on the shaft. With 2 people, one could hold the pulley while the other whacked the drift punch. I know I never bought or made a special tool. My method may not meet the requirements of Mercedes Martha though ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
- Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com Hahahahahahaaha! Now THAT is funny! On Dec 14, 2012 9:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the details of the sales figures, but you can be sure the marketing people know exactly what they're doing. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its an early announcement of a 2014 model... it'll be available in 2013 as is usually the case. I think they move these things up to keep customers interested and start some pre-ordering. But doesn't that devalue the 2013 models? Or did they already need huge discounts to move those? Mitch. If the size, number, and cleverness of the ads we see here in Central Florida are any indication, the dealers are desperate to get rid of their 2013 stock. Gerry OOPs! 2012 stock. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
I want to do mine in-frame, which just about demands the use of a puller due to the limited amount if space to access the pulley and compressor. If it's just a matter of removing the nut, I can handle that. I was of the impression that you needed a puller to get the pulley/clutch assembly off. Again, I haven't had a chance to revisit the procedure, so I'm working from memory, which can be a dangerous thing... Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember what tools I used, but I swapped the clutch from my MB NipponDenso compressor to a toyhonsan ND compressor I got at a junkyard. That was for my first SDL. I did not need or use any special tool. I think I used large sockets and /or box wrench and the rubber band wrench to hold the pulley. There is a writeup somewhere in the archives. As with any elect. clutch, the gap is important. I'll have to dig up the number. Maybe I can get it through the Q. Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you can purchase the special tool for fifty bucks or less, get it. Well worth avoiding opening up the system and removing the compressor, makes the job far easier. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Speaking of AC, I noticed when I was under the car this week, I noticed that the AC compressor is pretty accessible from below. Since all he needs to get the system running again is a clutch coil, I was wondering if anyone has the special wrench for removing the pulley, or if it's even necessary. I haven't looked at the procedure in the service manual for a while, so I'm going to revisit it this weekend. With a couple of weeks off for the holidays, I've got time to take this on. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel leak
The later ones (w210/om606) has the valve bolted to the side of the IP, no manual shutoff (electromagnetic governor--nothing but a voice coil fed a PWM signal from what I can tell...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:51, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Loren, Yes, this is my '95 with OM606. Vacuum operation of the IP shut-off valve remains, but it is so buried under the intake that it cannot be reached for a manual shut-off at the engine, in the event the vacuum system fails. Thus a simple but expensive needle valve built into the hollow bolt on the main fuel filter. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
Gerry Archer wrote: If the size, number, and cleverness of the ads we see here in Central Florida are any indication, the dealers are desperate to get rid of their 2013 stock. Gerry OOPs! 2012 stock. Gerry They still have 2012 models in December? That's a guarantee of desperation. Reminds me of 1984, when I could buy a $1999 MSRP 1982 motorcycle for $1069. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am confused
There are also the tax implications when it comes to inventory as well. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 14, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: If the size, number, and cleverness of the ads we see here in Central Florida are any indication, the dealers are desperate to get rid of their 2013 stock. Gerry OOPs! 2012 stock. Gerry They still have 2012 models in December? That's a guarantee of desperation. Reminds me of 1984, when I could buy a $1999 MSRP 1982 motorcycle for $1069. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
Looks like a Catheytool is the thing then. Although, if you have to pay a welding shop, you can probably find a used tool on fleabay for less. used on many toyhonsuzsans. I want to do mine in-frame, which just about demands the use of a puller due to the limited amount if space to access the pulley and compressor. If it's just a matter of removing the nut, I can handle that. I was of the impression that you needed a puller to get the pulley/clutch assembly off. Again, I haven't had a chance to revisit the procedure, so I'm working from memory, which can be a dangerous thing... Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember what tools I used, but I swapped the clutch from my MB NipponDenso compressor to a toyhonsan ND compressor I got at a junkyard. That was for my first SDL. I did not need or use any special tool. I think I used large sockets and /or box wrench and the rubber band wrench to hold the pulley. There is a writeup somewhere in the archives. As with any elect. clutch, the gap is important. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning lights?
So finally after a trip to California the saga continues. Today I put a new regulator in, 2 screws yeah but... The belly pan has to come off the cover over the alt has to come off, thats 4 nuts 1 of which has to come out from the top. Then: The old regulator looked good, the brushes were about 1/16 shorter (maybe not quite 1/16) than the new in box I had on the shelf. I put the new one in anyway, I figured while I was there and all. Spent a little time cleaning the rings with contact cleaner on a rag before I installed. Fired up and, nothing. Same 12.5v I was seeing at rest. Decided I'd call my Indy to see what the warranty is and call CarQuest to price a new one. Pulled the paperwork and realize that this was a NEW(!) alternator to the tune of $331.62 not quite 2 years ago. Called the Indy, he wasn't there, we'll see what he says but I suspect he'll warranty that. IIRC he upsold me into the new alt based on the 4 or 5 refurbs we had to put into my '83 240D to get one that worked right. Edit: I'm reasonably sure something else is going on, either I screwed up installing the regulator (quite possible) or something else entirely, now I have no warning lights or fuel gauge. Unfortunately I didn't check to see if they worked before I pulled the regulator, sloppy of me. Does the gauge cluster ground through the regulator? -Curt --- On Fri, 12/14/12, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning lights? To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, December 14, 2012, 2:48 PM So finally after a trip to California the saga continues. Today I put a new regulator in, 2 screws yeah but... The belly pan has to come off the cover over the alt has to come off, thats 4 nuts 1 of which has to come out from the top. Then: The old regulator looked good, the brushes were about 1/16 shorter (maybe not quite 1/16) than the new in box I had on the shelf. I put the new one in anyway, I figured while I was there and all. Spent a little time cleaning the rings with contact cleaner on a rag before I installed. Fired up and, nothing. Same 12.5v I was seeing at rest. Decided I'd call my Indy to see what the warranty is and call CarQuest to price a new one. Pulled the paperwork and realize that this was a NEW(!) alternator to the tune of $331.62 not quite 2 years ago. Called the Indy, he wasn't there, we'll see what he says but I suspect he'll warranty that. IIRC he upsold me into the new alt based on the 4 or 5 refurbs we had to put into my '83 240D to get one that worked right. -Curt --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning lights? To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 1:12 PM How? -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:30:53 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning lights? Message-ID: canzcij_frfgnkikv54retzw20xi1g9tud_ky2tbosp3+saa...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Clean the slip rings before you put the new regulator in - BTDT. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Typical failure of the regulators, BUT sometimes it's more. A new regulator will tell you, as it will restore full function if that's all that's wrong (and usually it's only the brushes anyway), but if that doesn't work, it's new alternator time. Regulator is on the bottom of the alternator, two screws. Use something to push the brushes back when putting the new one in, it's possible to get them hung up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning lights?
Curt Raymond wrote: Edit: I'm reasonably sure something else is going on, either I screwed up installing the regulator (quite possible) or something else entirely, now I have no warning lights or fuel gauge. Unfortunately I didn't check to see if they worked before I pulled the regulator, sloppy of me. Does the gauge cluster ground through the regulator? If the alternator doesn't get some current through the warning lamp, it likely won't energize. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
Look at these and tell me if any of them look right. Got an Autozone close by. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/inourstores/lat/latLanding.jsp?bodyContent=airConditioning Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Looks like a Catheytool is the thing then. Although, if you have to pay a welding shop, you can probably find a used tool on fleabay for less. used on many toyhonsuzsans. I want to do mine in-frame, which just about demands the use of a puller due to the limited amount if space to access the pulley and compressor. If it's just a matter of removing the nut, I can handle that. I was of the impression that you needed a puller to get the pulley/clutch assembly off. Again, I haven't had a chance to revisit the procedure, so I'm working from memory, which can be a dangerous thing... Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember what tools I used, but I swapped the clutch from my MB NipponDenso compressor to a toyhonsan ND compressor I got at a junkyard. That was for my first SDL. I did not need or use any special tool. I think I used large sockets and /or box wrench and the rubber band wrench to hold the pulley. There is a writeup somewhere in the archives. As with any elect. clutch, the gap is important. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning lights?
No, IIRC, the cluster grounds are all behind the dash - brown wires. One or more are either loose, broken, or corrosion is between them and the chassis. Keep looking there. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the gauge cluster ground through the regulator? -Curt -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E Serpentine Belt
Looks like the Santech clutch/hub remover, part # MT0595, might work. Design is right, but does it have the right threads? Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Look at these and tell me if any of them look right. Got an Autozone close by. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/inourstores/lat/latLanding.jsp?bodyContent=airConditioning Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Looks like a Catheytool is the thing then. Although, if you have to pay a welding shop, you can probably find a used tool on fleabay for less. used on many toyhonsuzsans. I want to do mine in-frame, which just about demands the use of a puller due to the limited amount if space to access the pulley and compressor. If it's just a matter of removing the nut, I can handle that. I was of the impression that you needed a puller to get the pulley/clutch assembly off. Again, I haven't had a chance to revisit the procedure, so I'm working from memory, which can be a dangerous thing... Dan On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember what tools I used, but I swapped the clutch from my MB NipponDenso compressor to a toyhonsan ND compressor I got at a junkyard. That was for my first SDL. I did not need or use any special tool. I think I used large sockets and /or box wrench and the rubber band wrench to hold the pulley. There is a writeup somewhere in the archives. As with any elect. clutch, the gap is important. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning lights?
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm reasonably sure something else is going on, either I screwed up installing the regulator (quite possible) or something else entirely, now I have no warning lights or fuel gauge. Unfortunately I didn't check to see if they worked before I pulled the regulator, sloppy of me. Does the gauge cluster ground through the regulator? With a test light (or meter) you should be able to verify the presence of voltage at the field winding when the key is on (but the engine not running). If no voltage is present, then something with the dash light has failed. On a W123, the alternator has three wires connecting. Two big ones and one small blue one. The blue, or blue-white is the one coming from the dash light. Don't know what might be different on yours. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A Diesel Mercedes Christmas Song
Jingle bells, Diesel smells, vacuum sprung a leak, Oh what fun it is to ride in an old 240D, HEE!! Jingle Bells, Diesel smells, Vacuum sprung a leak, Oh what fun it is to ride in an old 240D. Sliding through the snow, In my old 240D, Over the streets we go, people pass with ease. My seat belt buzzer rings, But I know we’re buckled tight, If I get through this Christmas snow storm, We’ll make it home tonight! Oh! Jingle Bells, Diesel smells, vacuum sprung a leak, Oh what fun it is to ride in an old 240D Hee! Jingle bells, diesel smells, vacuum pump is weak, Oh what fun it is to ride in an old 240D. On and on we go, In My old 240D, What’s that in the road, Up ahead I see? Piled up behind a truck, Were all those passing cars, As I crept by in the leftt hand lane, I thanked my lucky STAR!! Oh! Jingle Bells, Diesel smells, driving is a breeze, Oh what fun it is to ride in this old 240D, HEE! Jingle bells, Diesel smells, Oh what’s that noise I hear, We’ve finally made it home now, so let’s go have a beer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
