Re: [MBZ] Autozone idiots

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Apparently, MB has forgotten that the 1968 250S  280S were delivered 
with an added air pump which interferes with their replacement pump.


Wasn't there a right-angle transmission dingus involved?
I seem to recall running across a couple of different
fuel pump designs for our M130 250C.

-- Jim



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey

Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud


Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.

 to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and 
whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...


Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.

-- Jim



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] '77 300D ACC2 widget

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey

or there is supposed to be a very small
amount of water movement even if the AC is on.


Yes.  Even the manual heater valves don't shut off 100%,
that keeps the system healthier IIRC.

-- Jim



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey

have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter
duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB.
IF only there was.


The 1996-1998 (early) Dodge diesel uses the P7100
inline injection pump.  That's your 240D-style engine
right there.  Not light-duty, though.

-- Jim



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey

+1 for Where's the Diesel chain saws?


Well, the Unimog that the US Army's SEE is based upon
has some attachments, and one is (IIRC) a hydraulic-powered
chain saw that hooks to the Mog.  Which is diesel, so there
you go.  Gotta be a drag with a couple of hoses running
behind you, though.

-- Jim



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] Health Insurance Reform for America

2013-08-12 Thread Gerry Archer

Gerry wrote:
Here is a medical insurance professionals view of Americas health system and 
its problems which was written several years ago before Obamacare was 
proposed.
I personally have my doubts that Obamacare will turn out to be a fair, low 
cost, and workable system.


...

Health Insurance Reform for America

(The opinions expressed in this article represent the personal views of the 
author and do not necessarily reflect the views of the author’s current or 
former employers)


America needs reform of the health insurance system. Of this there is no 
doubt. Americans spend more per capita than any western nation on health 
care, and yet we are the only western nation with uninsured citizens. A lot 
of them over 40 million uninsured.


We all agreed decades ago that we want to purchase basic needs on a 
socialized basis. For example, municipal water supplies. None of us wants to 
have a situation where four competing water companies are digging up the 
street in front of our house to lay four sets of parallel pipes. Having a 
parallel delivery system adds cost. Four sets of pipes, four water meter 
readers on every street?


Should we do away with private enterprise in our medical provider system? 
No. As I said, socialized medicine as in the United Kingdom is not a good 
model -- in my opinion. Our mix of public, private and charitable hospitals 
provide excellent medical care. And a physician’s decision of whether to run 
his own practice, or join a clinic, or work for a hospital (public, private 
or charitable) should be the decision of that physician.


What about the insurance segment then? Should that be socialized or 
nationalized? In my opinion, neither is a good option. Free enterprise and 
competition among insurers is a good thing.


ECONOMY OF SCALE, POWER OF LARGE NUMBERS IN PURCHASING INSURANCE

But we should recognize that large purchasing groups get better deals. The 
employees of Boeing and Microsoft get a better deal on their monthly health 
insurance premium than the employees of a small business.


There are several reasons for this. For one thing, it is easier to 
administer one health plan with for a company like Boeing with 100,000 
employees than it is to administer 1000 separate plans for small business 
with 100 employees each.


With large employer groups, individual medical exams prior to issuing 
coverage are rarely given. Actuarially, these large groups are 
self-supporting. With small groups, all it takes is one haemophiliac, or a 
patient needing dialysis, or a cancer patient to make the employer group 
unprofitable. Individual medical exams should not be required -- ever. We 
all know that every American has to see the doctor at some time, and we 
should have a national policy to require that every American is covered with 
an absolute minimum of bureaucracy.


How do we do this?

By forming the largest possible purchasing groups, larger than Boeing, or 
General Motors, or Microsoft. We simply purchase our coverage together, on a 
state by state basis.


The insurance commissioner of each state can invite every licensed Accident 
and Health Insurer to submit a bid to cover every person in that state. 
Then, every three years, the contract is put up for a new bid.


ADMINISTRATIVE SAVINGS

With one plan per state, there is no need to mail out insurance policies. It 
will be published on the state’s internet site. Every individual, every 
doctor, every hospital can read it there. (And of course, paper copies can 
be mailed by the state upon request by those without web access.)


No more insurance ID cards. A valid state driver’s license is proof of 
insurance. For those who don't drive, every state already offers a state 
identification card that looks almost like the standard drivers license.


No more customer service call centers. Approximately 30% of America's health 
insurance expenditures goes to administrative overhead. The insurance 
policies and ID cards are a small part of that 30%. Most of the 30% pays the 
salaries of customer service representatives at hospitals and doctors' 
offices who are chatting with customer service representatives at the 
various insurers. They are calling to find out if someone is covered, and if 
so, what is their particular deductible, has it been met, if so, is the 
coverage after deductible at 80% or 90% or 100%.


If everyone in your state had the same plan, most of these call center 
staffs could find employment that would be more productive to our economy.


In addition to customer service salary savings, think about the marketing 
and sales people. Every health insurer has marketing and sales staff going 
out and wining and dining everyone from the head of a large employer to the 
small business owners of “Dan's Diner” and “Bob's Barber Shop”. Why? If we 
all bought our coverage together every three years, these marketing people 
could stop wasting the valuable time of 

Re: [MBZ] Health Insurance Reform for America

2013-08-12 Thread Larry T

I have problems with some of the comments - 1st there's this:


require that every American is covered with
Where's the personal freedom to choose how we wish to live? Afterall, 
some people may decide they don't need healthcare - most 18-25 yr olds 
for example.


As for the 40 million not covered - many do not wish to be covered - 
those 18-25 yr olds for instance.


There are many ways to make health care less expensive that don't 
involve mandatory coverage.  Like allowing insurance companies to 
operate across state lines the same as life or auto insurance does.
The article talks about reducing overhead then starts talking about 
states which will require 50 duplicate infrastructures.


And the water pipe analogy is a little too extreme IMO - not really 
apples to apples comparison - especially if health insurance can cross 
state lines which he doesn't advocate.


Oh well, it doesn't matter what */The People/* want - we have our 
royalty dictating what and how laws are implemented.


YMMV,
LarryT

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud

 Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.

The loud pickups, which are common around here, are the result of
aftermarket performance exhausts and chipped engine management
systems.

A stock, new diesel truck from Ford, Chevy, or Dodge is indeed quite
quiet.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Health Insurance Reform for America

2013-08-12 Thread mlh
 Gerry wrote:
 Americans spend more per capita than any western nation on health
 care,

Entirely possible. We seem to use expensive machinery more than anyplace
else, and we pay for the development of drugs while many other countries
just want to pay for the production of what we developed.

 and yet we are the only western nation with uninsured citizens.

Is this true, or is the author making it up as he goes along?


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
This is one of their consumer models and is a good value for the dollars. These 
are pretty simple units as you described and like most anything work well and 
perform as intended as long as they are properly maintained.

An equivalent Onan or Kohler unit would easily be twice the cost and far more 
complex.

As long as the homeowner is looking for critical load backup and not whole 
house standby, these do a great job for the money spent.

If I ever put a standby system in and wasn't looking for a whole house solution 
I would buy one.

My joking comes more from the commercial/industrial side of the business, where 
Generac is considered the KMart of the industry...

Dan

On Aug 11, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 
 It's an air cooled two cylinder model (13 kW NG, 15 kW LP).  I think the
 model number is 04390-3.  I bought it in late 2005 or early 2006 through
 an electrician as part of a remodel/addition job to my 1854 house near
 Raleigh NC.  It cost about $3500 as I recall.  I have a sub-panel (fed from
 the transfer switch) that powers most of the house.  Ironically, the very
 frequent power outages almost totally stopped after I got the generator. 
 
 Thanks for all the insight on these things.  The controls on mine are
 quite primitive but they work well enough.  The speed control is a simple
 mechanical governor and the voltage regulator looks analog.  Nothing that
 would intimidate a shade-tree mechanic.
 
 Scott
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:44 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators
 
 I would have to know more.  Is it air cooled or water cooled?  Where was it
 purchased? Model number?
 
 In fairness, the one thing that Generac has done right that no one else in
 the business has done is make a decent product for the consumer market.
 Their small standby units marketed through Home Despot and Lowe's are
 actually pretty decent for the money spent, and have a fairly high level of
 reliability.
 
 The other folks, such as Kohler and Onan, have tried to tap this market
 unsuccessfully for years.  They can't make a highly commoditied? product
 because they're so deeply involved in the commercial market.  Trying to make
 a generator based on price point rather than design is nigh impossible.
 
 Kohler's current and recent offerings, in my opinion, are too highly
 engineered and rely far too much on electronics.  Their controls are
 microprocessor based and use proprietary software and hardware.  If
 something acts up or breaks, you're screwed.  Sadly, many consumers don't
 discover this until it's too late and they're stuck with a very expensive
 repair bill or a large expensive lawn ornament.
 
 Generac is an engineering house rather than a manufacturer.  They design
 stuff themselves and base their production on volume, which is so far from
 what the others do it's an alien concept.  That's why everything says
 Generac on it - it's someone else's product, like Briggs or Tecumseh, with
 Generac's exterior design for things like cooling.
 
 Case in point is the 25kW unit I got for nothing and fixed for $40.  It had
 a Mitsubishi gas industrial engine that was never marketed in the US.
 Generac bought the long blocks directly from Mitsubishi and added all the
 peripheral parts such as fuel, drive and mounting.  When the coil in the
 distributor failed (a system much like GM's HEI) the only fix was an
 assembly replacement - a new distributor - to the tune of $1600 for the part
 alone.
 
 With travel time, mileage and labor all wrapped up in that repair, it
 exceeded 50% of the cost of a new unit.  The owner bought a new unit and we
 took the old one back.  I did some research and found that the engine was
 common in Asia and Oceania, so I got a hold of John in Australia and he got
 me the coil - for a whopping $40 US shipped!
 
 This is the risk with the Generac product, but as far as the consumer stuff,
 parts are common and plentiful, so that's not an issue.
 
 Dan
 
 ---
 On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 
 
 Dan, I have a Generac propane standby generator, about 15KW.  The engine
 says Generac on it but I suspect it's really made by someone else.  Do you
 know?
 
 By the way, the only time it failed to start was caused by a dead battery.
 The 100 amp transfer switch is a knife-blade design so I suppose it could
 stick if it hasn't operated in a long time.  There is a manual override
 but
 I don't think I'd want to open the box in a bad storm.
 
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Crone
http://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/3995784638.html

Mm.  Hm.  Can't decide whether this is at the top or the bottom of the
continuum.

Happy Monday everyone!

-Tim
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] MB Factory Manuals? (was: Re: sunroof not powering open? - W123)

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Hattaway


You can buy the entire set of manuals, A/C, engine, both chassis, 1984 
supplement, from me.

Make a reasonable offer .. these manuals are made of unobtanium anymore.

For those interested, I also have the manuals for the older diesel motors, and 
the early SL chassis cars, as in 230SL... and a set of M110 manuals.

I don't know if I am going to get another MB or not, if I don't I want to 
eliminate this entire row of bookshelf real estate (c:


Richard



 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] MB Factory Manuals? (was: Re: sunroof not powering open? - W123)
 

hi!

     where can i get my hands on a factory manual for an '85 300D (Cal)?


cheers!
e


On 09/Aug/13 12:24, Dave Cavner wrote:
 Section 77 of the MB factory manual is very helpful in understanding the 
 what, where and how of the sliding roof assembly.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Hattaway
In this instance, the 'solitary' description relates to the fact that one wasp 
bores one hole in the ground.  


The 'swarm' by the hundreds in one small area.  Just each one has his own home.

The swarming is so intense at Fairystone State Park that they put up signs 
telling visitors not to be concerned by them, they are basically harmless to 
humans.  The garden looks like lumpy swiss cheese.

Richard




 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
 

Since these were swarming by the dozens, must be something else.  From
Wikipedia

Cicada killers are large, solitary
waspshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waspin the
family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_%28biology%29
Crabronidaehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabronidae
.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] MB Factory Manuals? (was: Re: sunroof not powering open? - W123)

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I just recently discovered CD versions of the W123, W126 and the classic 
service manuals (W110/1/2) while cleaning out a closet. If you're interested, 
PM me.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 
 
 You can buy the entire set of manuals, A/C, engine, both chassis, 1984 
 supplement, from me.
 
 Make a reasonable offer .. these manuals are made of unobtanium anymore.
 
 For those interested, I also have the manuals for the older diesel motors, 
 and the early SL chassis cars, as in 230SL... and a set of M110 manuals.
 
 I don't know if I am going to get another MB or not, if I don't I want to 
 eliminate this entire row of bookshelf real estate (c:
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:50 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] MB Factory Manuals? (was: Re: sunroof not powering open? - 
 W123)
 
 
 hi!
 
  where can i get my hands on a factory manual for an '85 300D (Cal)?
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 
 On 09/Aug/13 12:24, Dave Cavner wrote:
 Section 77 of the MB factory manual is very helpful in understanding the 
 what, where and how of the sliding roof assembly.
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I would offer him 2-3k
 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about 20 
 miles away from me.
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 
 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.
 
 Dan
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green?


The taste!

-- Jim



Grease.  Avacado is high fat.  Pea soup is low fat.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] Fw: '07 R320CDI For Sale

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON

Plus extra set of original wheels in addition to the original set with good 
tires now in use.  Luggage rack.

Wilton
  - Original Message - 
  From: WILTON 
  To: mercedes list 
  Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:35 PM
  Subject: '07 R320CDI For Sale


  Son's '07 320CDI is for sale in Goldsboro, NC; 254 kmi; nearly all freeway - 
many trips to Atlanta, Charlotte, etc;  torque converter's been chattering 
occasionally for 150 kmi; ding on left rear door; silver exterior; gray int.; 
really does BLOW ICE COLD.  $12.5 k.

  Wilton
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Allan Streib
You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.



A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
run well.





On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.



Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
[2]ka...@striplin.net

wrote:



I would offer him 2-3k

On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
20 miles away from me.



[3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291



He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.



Dan

References

1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
3. 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
If there was any deduction at all it was minor.  If they were available as
a dealer or factory option there would have been no deduciton.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 How did it win a Concours with an aftermarket ignition?

 Allan

 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

  It was very quick and responsive, and the air suspension was awesome. It
  had a Crane breakerless ignition; starting the car was like flipping a
  light switch.  IIRC I had to replace the trigger points and air bags (to
  pass inspection) but nothing else of a major nature.
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Andrew wrote:
   I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5
   sedan...
 
  Did you enjoy that 3.5?
  I have always heard that was one of the better fast engines made.
  Over-square is the term Stu Ritter gave that engine.  High rev?
  mao
 
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

 --
 Allan Streib

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Perhaps they should rename Fairystone State Park to Swarming Killer Wasp
State Park

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Richard Hattaway
rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 In this instance, the 'solitary' description relates to the fact that one
 wasp bores one hole in the ground.


 The 'swarm' by the hundreds in one small area.  Just each one has his own
 home.

 The swarming is so intense at Fairystone State Park that they put up signs
 telling visitors not to be concerned by them, they are basically harmless
 to humans.  The garden looks like lumpy swiss cheese.

 Richard



 
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere


 Since these were swarming by the dozens, must be something else.  From
 Wikipedia

 Cicada killers are large, solitary
 waspshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waspin the
 family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_%28biology%29
 Crabronidaehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabronidae
 .
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am going to sell my car to Dimitri, since he is compassionate about its
value.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
 then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.



 A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
 run well.





 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [2]ka...@striplin.net

 wrote:



 I would offer him 2-3k

 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
 20 miles away from me.



 [3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
 s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291



 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.



 Dan

 References

 1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
 2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
 3.
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
  ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Avocado is supposedly a superfood full of good fats.  Does this mean an
avocado a day keeps the undertaker away?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

  What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green?


 The taste!

 -- Jim


 Grease.  Avacado is high fat.  Pea soup is low fat.


 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 
1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are all over 
the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything from beaters 
that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking upwards of $20k for 
bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.

The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.

Dan

On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
 then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.
 
 
 
 A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
 run well.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [2]ka...@striplin.net
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I would offer him 2-3k
 
 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
 20 miles away from me.
 
 
 
 [3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
 s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 
 
 
 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.
 
 
 
 Dan
 
 References
 
 1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
 2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
 3. 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
Oh. I didn't realize that it's a non-runner. 3K is still way too low.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
 then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.
 
 
 
 A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
 run well.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [2]ka...@striplin.net
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I would offer him 2-3k
 
 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
 20 miles away from me.
 
 
 
 [3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
 s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 
 
 
 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.
 
 
 
 Dan
 
 References
 
 1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
 2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
 3. 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 
 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are all over 
 the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything from 
 beaters that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking upwards of 
 $20k for bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.
 
 The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.
 
 Dan
 
 On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
 then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.
 
 
 
 A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
 run well.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [2]ka...@striplin.net
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I would offer him 2-3k
 
 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
 20 miles away from me.
 
 
 
 [3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
 s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 
 
 
 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.
 
 
 
 Dan
 
 References
 
 1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
 2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
 3. 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Health Insurance Reform for America

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

Gerry wrote:
Here is a medical insurance professionals view of Americas health 
system and its problems which was written several years ago before 
Obamacare was proposed.
I personally have my doubts that Obamacare will turn out to be a 
fair, low cost, and workable system.


It was never intended to be fair.  Meant to punish non-D people.
It was never intended to be low cost.  Meant to put inscos out of biz.
It was never intended to be workable.  It was meant to subjugate all 
the people in the US.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry. Thought you were referring to the original subject car.

Dan

On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:10 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 
 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are all 
 over the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything from 
 beaters that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking upwards of 
 $20k for bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.
 
 The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.
 
 Dan
 
 On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
 then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.
 
 
 
 A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
 run well.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [2]ka...@striplin.net
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I would offer him 2-3k
 
 On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car?  It's about
 20 miles away from me.
 
 
 
 [3]http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-f
 s-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 
 
 
 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out.
 
 
 
 Dan
 
 References
 
 1. mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com
 2. mailto:ka...@striplin.net
 3. 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5.


1986 560SL with hard top and torn soft top. Had fuel leak. Replaced everything 
but the fuel pump, still leaks so he assumes the pump is bad. Won't start on its 
own which makes me fearful of the fuel distributor, warm up regulator, and/or 
cold start valve.


Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

A twofer?


Does the R320 have a proper 2 hitch on it to tow the SDL home?

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Tim Crone wrote:

http://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/3995784638.html

Mm.  Hm.  Can't decide whether this is at the top or the bottom of the
continuum.


An SL?
Mafia staff car, or mafia bimbo's car?

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

On 09/08/2013 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times 
warm or cold to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no 
times make no difference when it gets to not wanting to start


The primer bulb sucks from a carb vent and pumps back to the tank.
If it's sucking fuel, the carby should be full.
You may just have a defective carby.

Mitch.

Sounds to me, more like the primer is not sucking the gas up and feeding 
it to the carb. If it was, one would think there would be an issue of 
flooding rather than a dry spark plug.


Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

On 09/08/2013 7:27 PM, Craig wrote:

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:05:39 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


As I was falling and jumping backward off the ladder, I threw the saw
way off the right at about 2 o'clock.  As I was getting up, I realized
that the saw was lying across the yard idling perfectly, and continued
to do so henceforth.  What it needed was a good throwing/tossing across
the yard.

Good fix, Wilton! ATTABOY!


Craig



Tried that. Did not work for me.

Maybe, my problem was that the saw was not running when I threw it.
Like Kaleb, I was struggling with a saw that would not start, and tossed 
it across the yard in a moment when my temper got the better of me.


Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 45 Years - WAS 44 years OT

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell
My younger son and his girl are engaged with the wedding planned for 
June 2014.
My mother was telling Tom, this weekend, that he had better do as well 
as my wife and I.


Randy

On 09/08/2013 8:06 PM, Larry T wrote:
Congratulations Michael!  We also started young - I'm everyone thought 
it would never last. There's something sublime about proving everyone 
wrong ;-)


LarryT
91 300D

On 8/9/2013 7:56 PM, Mike Esh wrote:
36 years for my wife and I. We started at 18 and 19 respectively.  We 
now have two daughter and one son. Ages  33, 30, and 14.


Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344


On Aug 9, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

Wow - we've got a lot of people committed to long time relationships 
-- like the one we have with our vehicles...


LarryT

On 8/8/2013 9:56 PM, OK Don wrote:

Ditto, at over 38 yrs.


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Congrats to all of you - you're making me feel a lot younger - we're
working on 34 years

Dan

On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Larry T wrote:


hey Randy!
A late congrats to you and your lovely bride!  My wife  I 
celebrated
our 45th anniversary  last Monday.  It was Aug 6 1968 - I was 18 
and she

was 17 -- when I looked at my kids when they were that age I thought,
there is now way they could have done what we did! Even so, we were
just kids growing up together.  Looking forward to another 45 years
together...

LarryT
91 300D

On 6/6/2013 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
My good wife and I are celebrating the 44th anniversary of our 
first

date today. June 6, 1969.
Going to go out for dinner somewhere. Not sure where yet. 
Probably some

place with a good steak.

Randy





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
The other day there was an avocado/exorcist green old Tbird parked down 
the road -- exterior, interior the same putrid color.  It did look sorta 
interesting but nausea-inducing.


--R


On 8/12/13 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Avocado is supposedly a superfood full of good fats.  Does this mean an
avocado a day keeps the undertaker away?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


  What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green?

The taste!

-- Jim



Grease.  Avacado is high fat.  Pea soup is low fat.


__**_
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives 
http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital 
of the world, but Okrah did not attend.


--R


On 8/12/13 7:48 AM, Tim Crone wrote:

http://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/3995784638.html

Mm.  Hm.  Can't decide whether this is at the top or the bottom of the
continuum.

Happy Monday everyone!

-Tim
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:

Sounds to me, more like the primer is not sucking the gas up and feeding 
it to the carb. If it was, one would think there would be an issue of 
flooding rather than a dry spark plug.


The primer sucks the air out of the carb. When there's no air in the carb the 
primer bulb fills up with fuel.


Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

On 10/08/2013 6:20 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

On my tiller the choke does not seal when closed. Starts only when I squirt
some gas in the intake.



Have you looked to see if it is possible to adjust something so that the 
choke plate will close?
I have a similar problem with a couple of small engines and had not 
noticed whether the choke plate closes well.
I will have a look at mine next time I use one of them to see if that is 
an issue on my motors.


Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON

One could probably install such as necessary - plus dolly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale



WILTON wrote:

A twofer?


Does the R320 have a proper 2 hitch on it to tow the SDL home?

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell


If you get much snow where you are, I have to think you would be better 
off with a blower attachment than a plow.
If you geta blower, you might also want to watch for a cab as having the 
snow blow back in your face is not much fun either.


Randy

On 10/08/2013 1:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Hi everyone,
This morning I picked up a nice 318 that went up for sale locally for
$1500.  610 hours, 50 deck.  Recently serviced with all fluids, basic
tuneup done, etc.  The E320 wagon did admirable job bringing it home too.

Overall, I'm very satisfied.  I just mowed the lawn in a fraction of the
time it took me before.  I needs a bit of tuning and adjustments.  Service
manual CD is on order to get this done next weekend.

Next is to find a plow for the winter!

Photos are here:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_10_John_Deere_318/

Jaime





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 09/08/2013 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times warm or 
 cold to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no times make no 
 difference when it gets to not wanting to start
 
 The primer bulb sucks from a carb vent and pumps back to the tank.
 If it's sucking fuel, the carby should be full.
 You may just have a defective carby.
 
 Mitch.
 Sounds to me, more like the primer is not sucking the gas up and feeding it 
 to the carb. If it was, one would think there would be an issue of flooding 
 rather than a dry spark plug.
 
 Randy
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 The other day there was an avocado/exorcist green old Tbird parked down
 the road -- exterior, interior the same putrid color.  It did look sorta
 interesting but nausea-inducing.

 --R


 On 8/12/13 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Avocado is supposedly a superfood full of good fats.  Does this mean an
 avocado a day keeps the undertaker away?

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

   What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green?

 The taste!

 -- Jim


 Grease.  Avacado is high fat.  Pea soup is low fat.


 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/
 http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com
 http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 

 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I adore okra.  Half my garden is devoted to it.  Where is Irmo?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital of
 the world, but Okrah did not attend.

 --R


 On 8/12/13 7:48 AM, Tim Crone wrote:

 http://columbia.craigslist.**org/cto/3995784638.htmlhttp://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/3995784638.html

 Mm.  Hm.  Can't decide whether this is at the top or the bottom of the
 continuum.

 Happy Monday everyone!

 -Tim
 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

On 12/08/2013 2:03 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud


Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.

 to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and 
whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...


Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.

-- Jim



Hard on the engine etc, but they are able to make absolutely insane 
amounts of power.


Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?


I don't see how.
If the bulb fills with fuel, that pretty much tells you the fuel filter and carb 
inlet screen are OK, but there could be other things wrong with the carb.


Mitch.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:


If you get much snow where you are, I have to think you would be better 
off with a blower attachment than a plow.
If you geta blower, you might also want to watch for a cab as having the 
snow blow back in your face is not much fun either.




http://jxn.craigslist.org/grd/3857208440.html

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?

Sent from my iPhone


It is 'sposed ta.  If it is working right, it will flood the carb.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I kinda like the lighter metallic colors but not the deep 
olive/avocado/exorcist green sorts of colors.


http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/test/404734d1319155423-photoshop-test-300td-thistle-green-green-wagon3-copy.jpg

I saw a Ferrari Dino around here in the same color as the Tbird, I wonder if it 
is the same guy?  Maybe he has a fetish.

--R

On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


The other day there was an avocado/exorcist green old Tbird parked down
the road -- exterior, interior the same putrid color.  It did look sorta
interesting but nausea-inducing.

--R




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas

It is not far from Clumya.

I am going to make shrimp gumbo this evening, got to go get some okra 
and tomats and fresh shrimp from the farm stand.


--R


On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I adore okra.  Half my garden is devoted to it.  Where is Irmo?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital of
the world, but Okrah did not attend.

--R



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Farm raised shrimp ?
On Aug 12, 2013 12:38 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 It is not far from Clumya.

 I am going to make shrimp gumbo this evening, got to go get some okra and
 tomats and fresh shrimp from the farm stand.

 --R


 On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 I adore okra.  Half my garden is devoted to it.  Where is Irmo?

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

  Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital
 of
 the world, but Okrah did not attend.
 
 --R



 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photoeee of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I once a thistle green 450 SL C in Arlington. Very beautiful color for that
model.
On Aug 12, 2013 12:37 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I kinda like the lighter metallic colors but not the deep
 olive/avocado/exorcist green sorts of colors.

 http://www.google.com/imgres?**imgurl=http://www.benzworld.**
 org/forums/attachments/test/**404734d1319155423-photoshop-**
 test-300td-thistle-green-**green-wagon3-copy.jpghttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/test/404734d1319155423-photoshop-test-300td-thistle-green-green-wagon3-copy.jpg

 I saw a Ferrari Dino around here in the same color as the Tbird, I wonder
 if it is the same guy?  Maybe he has a fetish.

 --R

 On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

  The other day there was an avocado/exorcist green old Tbird parked down
 the road -- exterior, interior the same putrid color.  It did look sorta
 interesting but nausea-inducing.
 
 --R
 



 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Raised on the farm off the Carolina, no make that the Gulf, Coast (idiot 
Obama said the other night on Jay Leno we moved to the Gulf coast).  One 
of the shrimpers brings over a coupla hundred pounds every coupla days 
and they sell them at the farmstand.  About twice the price of the ones 
at the dock though.  The dock is about a mile and half from the house 
but I would  have to drive about 24 miles to get there unless I put the 
kayak in at my buddy's place and paddle across the creek to it.  He goes 
over all the time.


--R

On 8/12/13 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Farm raised shrimp ?
On Aug 12, 2013 12:38 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


It is not far from Clumya.

I am going to make shrimp gumbo this evening, got to go get some okra and
tomats and fresh shrimp from the farm stand.

--R


On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


I adore okra.  Half my garden is devoted to it.  Where is Irmo?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

  Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital

of

the world, but Okrah did not attend.

--R

__**_
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives 
http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?
 
 I don't see how.
 If the bulb fills with fuel, that pretty much tells you the fuel filter and 
 carb inlet screen are OK, but there could be other things wrong with the carb.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.


I don't think so.
Loren does.

If you went here, you'd get the definitive answer:
http://arboristsite.com/chainsaw/

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON

And there was cactus green, too, the color of my '80 240D.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D



In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


The other day there was an avocado/exorcist green old Tbird parked down
the road -- exterior, interior the same putrid color.  It did look sorta
interesting but nausea-inducing.

--R


On 8/12/13 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Avocado is supposedly a superfood full of good fats.  Does this mean 
an

avocado a day keeps the undertaker away?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

  What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green?



The taste!

-- Jim


Grease.  Avacado is high fat.  Pea soup is low fat.



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives 
http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/

http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com
http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


__**_

http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives 
http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/


To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




__**_
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives 
http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/


To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON

And run out all over the place.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won



If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?


Sent from my iPhone


It is 'sposed ta.  If it is working right, it will flood the carb.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON

Lessee, 'bout 4½ hours en route - 'bout 6:00 to 6:30 PM?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday



It is not far from Clumya.

I am going to make shrimp gumbo this evening, got to go get some okra and 
tomats and fresh shrimp from the farm stand.


--R


On 8/12/13 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I adore okra.  Half my garden is devoted to it.  Where is Irmo?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Irmo had the Okra Strut and Festival recently.  It is the okra capital 
of

the world, but Okrah did not attend.

--R



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] OT More time wasters

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas

Check all the links at top

http://jalopnik.com/this-upside-down-camaro-festiva-monster-is-the-craziest-1098970792
--R


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.


I don't think so.
Loren does.

If you went here, you'd get the definitive answer:
http://arboristsite.com/chainsaw/

__


I don't know that for sure, so I defer to Mitch's expertise.  I can't 
say that I ever flooded one, but the rental Huskq... concrete saws 
that would not run, they said were flooded after we took them back. 
But those have a choke, so I think maybe I got the different types 
mixed up.  I think EPA made chokes disappear.  Thus K'leb's problem...


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

   I think EPA made chokes disappear.
My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Scott Ritchey

This may have some stuff of interest:

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/john-deere-forum/




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan site none of 
them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do warranty work. I called lowes 
and the guy said he was 95% sure they would exchange it if I brought it down 
there. I may try that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan is 
junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least work the 1 time a 
year I may need to use it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I think EPA made chokes disappear.
 My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
 that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.
 
 Alex
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Health Insurance Reform for America

2013-08-12 Thread OK Don
Of course, if each insurance company considered all of it's customer base
as one pool, we'd have lower premiums, but not be able to cut out the
un-necessary over-head.

And then there's this approach:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/new-zealands-solution-rising-health-costs-deport-fat-people-6C10861122

New Zealand's immigration authorities think they have gotten to the core of
solving the obesity epidemic and rising health costs-- deport fat people. A
50 year-old, 286-pound South African citizen no longer has an acceptable
standard of health to remain in the country where nearly a third of adults
are overweight, according to reports.
Albert Buitenhuis and his wife, Marthie, 47, moved to Christchurch, New
Zealand from South Africa six years ago. They are now facing deportation
after their work visas were declined because of his weight. New Zealand
immigration authorities cited the demands his obesity could place on New
Zealand’s health services in terms of cost.
When Albert, 5’ 8”, arrived to take a job as a chef, he topped 350 pounds.
Yet he has worked, as has his waitress wife, paid taxes and managed to lose
more than 60 pounds, according to The Press of New Zealand. His doctor says
Buitenhuis, who has a chronic knee condition, is on his way to getting his
blood pressure down and his weight under control.
For the first five years, no one seemed to think that Albert could not fit
in New Zealand. But, suddenly, the authorities have decided he must leave.
His wife, who is not obese, is on his work visa, so she must follow him to
the loading dock.
The associate immigration minister of New Zealand is expected to decide on
the case in the next week.

Albert is appealing his deportation. And he should. While some nations such
as the U.S. tried to prevent immigration for those who were HIV positive
that was mainly due to worries about contagion. Obesity, while recently
categorized by the American Medical Association as a disease, is not
contagious. New Zealand, as far as is known, is not trying to get rid of
smokers -- who are both costly to care for and can harm others -- or those
who have herpes or other sexually transmitted diseases.

New Zealand immigration laws don't specifically mention weight as cause for
deportation, but list medical conditions
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/45634.htmsuch as HIV, hepatitis
B or cardiac diseases deemed to impose significant costs and/or demands
on the country's health or education services. New Zealand's health care
system, funded through general taxes, provides free medical care to all
permanent 
residentshttp://www.commonwealthfund.org/Topics/International-Health-Policy/Countries/New-Zealand.aspx.

Some think New Zealand is on the right track. New Zealand may believe
publicly shaming the bloated is a solution to the obesity epidemic or
escalation of health care costs. But deporting Albert, especially while he
is losing weight, looks for all the world like a sudden attack of unbridled
prejudice.



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:

 Gerry wrote:
 Here is a medical insurance professionals view of Americas health system
 and its problems which was written several years ago before Obamacare was
 proposed.
 I personally have my doubts that Obamacare will turn out to be a fair, low
 cost, and workable system.




-- 
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread OK Don
I've never seen a green car that wasn't ugly - to each his own ---


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 And there was cactus green, too, the color of my '80 240D.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

  In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?




-- 
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the rope. No 
prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first pull. Nice and 
responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took 
it back to lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new junk poulan saw 
and will see what happens

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan site none of 
 them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do warranty work. I called 
 lowes and the guy said he was 95% sure they would exchange it if I brought it 
 down there. I may try that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan 
 is junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least work the 1 
 time a year I may need to use it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think EPA made chokes disappear.
 My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
 that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.
 
 Alex
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Craig
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:12:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the
 rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first
 pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again,
 would not start. Took it back to lowes and I will be damned if they did
 not swap it out with no problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have
 another brand new junk poulan saw and will see what happens

If you bought a Poulan saw from a saw shop, I'm sure you would get a much
better saw.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
I don't think so either because the carb should have a return line from the 
carb back to the tank.

I put a squeeze bulb primer on my snowmobile years ago like you might see on a 
boat. Squeeze the bulb and it fills the carb with gas, excess shoots out the 
overflow back to the tank. Makes starting the old sled a breeze, especially the 
really old ones where the tank is under the engine.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:57:31 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Message-ID: 520913fb.5030...@voyager.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.

I don't think so.
Loren does.

If you went here, you'd get the definitive answer:
http://arboristsite.com/chainsaw/
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
You should be able to get store credit on returns too if you want to buy 
another kind or use the credit to buy other stuff.


--R


On 8/12/13 3:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the rope. No 
prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first pull. Nice and 
responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took 
it back to lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new junk poulan saw 
and will see what happens

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan site none of 
them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do warranty work. I called lowes 
and the guy said he was 95% sure they would exchange it if I brought it down 
there. I may try that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan is 
junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least work the 1 time a 
year I may need to use it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I think EPA made chokes disappear.

My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree, although if you mostly had dry powder snow a garden tractor with a 
bunch of weight will move a surprising amount. Other than the 2 1/2 foot 
blizzard we had last year my Cub Cadet 70 (7hp) has never been overwhelmed by 
snow. It would be even better if I fluid filled the tires and added a weight 
box and another set of wheel weights.

That said Jamie lives in Jersey. His problem will be that his snow is almost 
always wet and heavy...

A ride on snowblower is going to be nice for his long drive.
A walk behind snowblower is MUCH more manuverable...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:53:31 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Message-ID: 520904fb.90...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


If you get much snow where you are, I have to think you would be better 
off with a blower attachment than a plow.
If you geta blower, you might also want to watch for a cab as having the 
snow blow back in your face is not much fun either.

Randy

On 10/08/2013 1:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 This morning I picked up a nice 318 that went up for sale locally for
 $1500.  610 hours, 50 deck.  Recently serviced with all fluids, basic
 tuneup done, etc.  The E320 wagon did admirable job bringing it home too.

 Overall, I'm very satisfied.  I just mowed the lawn in a fraction of the
 time it took me before.  I needs a bit of tuning and adjustments.  Service
 manual CD is on order to get this done next weekend.

 Next is to find a plow for the winter!

 Photos are here:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_10_John_Deere_318/

 Jaime
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull 
the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on 
the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to 
start it again, would not start. Took it back to lowes and I will be 
damned if they did not swap it out with no problem at all. I am 
impressed. So now I have another brand new junk poulan saw and will 
see what happens


Sent from my iPhone


Does it have the primer bulb and a choke?  If so, yes you can flood it.

My general practice for starting chaninsaws is to choke it, push the 
primer bulb if it has one; pull the rope until it starts and dies. 
Then you know it is flooded.  Then put the choke off and pull the 
rope until it starts.  On my stihl this is generally 2 pulls, one to 
flood it and one to start it.  The poulans sometimes start this well, 
and sometimes don't.  The poulans don't start at all then the plastic 
fuel pickup tubing has rotted off from the crappy stuff the sell as 
gasoline these days.  The Stihl must have some other way of picking 
up the fuel from the tank.



On a flooded gasoline engine mit carburetor,  you open the throttle 
wide and crank.  THat works for chainsaws too.


Seems to me that maybe your saw was flooded.  May be or maybe not 
Can't tell from here.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Apparently I've never been around an un-molested big 3 pickup. I find them much 
louder than something like a 240D.
I have some small experience with the GM 6.2l which I didn't consider obnoxious.

Compared to something like a 240D all the diesel pickups I've seen/heard around 
town are loud. Compared to something like a current VW diesel they're obnoxious.

Maybe this weekend I'll have to go drive one and find out for myself.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 00:03:44 -0700
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion
    on late    model trucks?
Message-ID: 539ecb86-031d-11e3-92dd-000502d9a...@windwireless.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

 Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud

Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.

  to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and 
 whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...

Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.

-- Jim
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell


Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if they 
will swap you for a Husquvarna.

Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.

Randy


On 12/08/2013 2:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the rope. No 
prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first pull. Nice and 
responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took 
it back to lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new junk poulan saw 
and will see what happens

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan site none of 
them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do warranty work. I called lowes 
and the guy said he was 95% sure they would exchange it if I brought it down 
there. I may try that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan is 
junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least work the 1 time a 
year I may need to use it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I think EPA made chokes disappear.

My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell
Next door neighbor has a late model Ford F350 dually that he parks out 
front these days.
I heard it fire up this morning about 7 AM. Our bedroon is on the front 
of the house and the window was open. I would be no more than about 50 
feet from the truck. I could tell it was a diesel but I would not say it 
was loud.
This guy has, I don't know how many trucks. He has a business and he and 
some employees seem to drive them. Often a different one at his place 
every other day.
He has a late model Escalade truck that is much louder than this big 
dually diesel.
Unless he has parted with some of them, he must have the better part of 
a dozen of them.


His wife has a newish MB diesel SUV.
It has a bit of an odd sound when fired up. Not like the truck in the 
sense that one hears diesel immediately but sort of a sound that one 
thinks is not a normal gas engine vehicle.


Randy


On 12/08/2013 2:44 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Apparently I've never been around an un-molested big 3 pickup. I find them much 
louder than something like a 240D.
I have some small experience with the GM 6.2l which I didn't consider obnoxious.

Compared to something like a 240D all the diesel pickups I've seen/heard around 
town are loud. Compared to something like a current VW diesel they're obnoxious.

Maybe this weekend I'll have to go drive one and find out for myself.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 00:03:44 -0700
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion
 on latemodel trucks?
Message-ID: 539ecb86-031d-11e3-92dd-000502d9a...@windwireless.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed


Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud

Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.


   to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and
whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...

Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.

-- Jim
___




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

On 12/08/2013 2:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull 
the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the 
first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it 
again, would not start. Took it back to lowes and I will be damned if 
they did not swap it out with no problem at all. I am impressed. So 
now I have another brand new junk poulan saw and will see what happens


Sent from my iPhone


Does it have the primer bulb and a choke?  If so, yes you can flood it.

My general practice for starting chaninsaws is to choke it, push the 
primer bulb if it has one; pull the rope until it starts and dies. 
Then you know it is flooded.  Then put the choke off and pull the rope 
until it starts.  On my stihl this is generally 2 pulls, one to flood 
it and one to start it.  The poulans sometimes start this well, and 
sometimes don't.  The poulans don't start at all then the plastic fuel 
pickup tubing has rotted off from the crappy stuff the sell as 
gasoline these days.  The Stihl must have some other way of picking up 
the fuel from the tank.



On a flooded gasoline engine mit carburetor,  you open the throttle 
wide and crank.  THat works for chainsaws too.


Seems to me that maybe your saw was flooded.  May be or maybe not 
Can't tell from here.


___


The classic way to start the older saws that did not have the primer was 
to pull the choke on and squeeze the trigger to open the throttle and 
push in the pin to hold it wide open and then pull on the cord.


Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell
The catch on the pushing it is that if you get a lot of snow and it does 
not melt in between then you will run out of room unless you push it way 
way back.
A blower can be used to essentially pile it higher if need be, or blow 
it over the existing pile.
I am guessing that where Jaime is, that the snow likely melts between 
snowfalls so that it is not an issue.
Here in the GWN I don't think the little tractor would do very well. You 
need a bobcat with a bucket and tracks at a minimum to move snow here.


Randy


On 12/08/2013 2:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I agree, although if you mostly had dry powder snow a garden tractor with a 
bunch of weight will move a surprising amount. Other than the 2 1/2 foot 
blizzard we had last year my Cub Cadet 70 (7hp) has never been overwhelmed by 
snow. It would be even better if I fluid filled the tires and added a weight 
box and another set of wheel weights.

That said Jamie lives in Jersey. His problem will be that his snow is almost 
always wet and heavy...

A ride on snowblower is going to be nice for his long drive.
A walk behind snowblower is MUCH more manuverable...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:53:31 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Message-ID: 520904fb.90...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


If you get much snow where you are, I have to think you would be better
off with a blower attachment than a plow.
If you geta blower, you might also want to watch for a cab as having the
snow blow back in your face is not much fun either.

Randy

On 10/08/2013 1:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Hi everyone,
This morning I picked up a nice 318 that went up for sale locally for
$1500.  610 hours, 50 deck.  Recently serviced with all fluids, basic
tuneup done, etc.  The E320 wagon did admirable job bringing it home too.

Overall, I'm very satisfied.  I just mowed the lawn in a fraction of the
time it took me before.  I needs a bit of tuning and adjustments.  Service
manual CD is on order to get this done next weekend.

Next is to find a plow for the winter!

Photos are here:
  http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_10_John_Deere_318/

Jaime

___




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
The American V8 gas pick-ups are also very loud. And many of the morons who 
drive them take advantage of that fact.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 12/08/2013 2:03 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud
 
 Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.
 
 to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and 
 whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...
 
 Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.
 
 -- Jim
 Hard on the engine etc, but they are able to make absolutely insane amounts 
 of power.
 
 Randy
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Fmiser
 Scott wrote:
 
 
 This may have some stuff of interest:
 
 http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/john-deere-forum/

The WeekendFreedomMachines forums are much more focused, so I don't
have to wade through dozens of posts about modern machines and
mechanical transmissions to get to stuff relating to hydrostatic
drives.  Of the ones I've looked at, it seems to be the best - in my opinion.

Here's a link to the hydrostatic forum - for the 318 and the like.
http://www.weekendfreedommachines.com/discus/messages/17/61368.html

--   Philip

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON
Well, I didn't say I liked it; 'only one I could find in Oct/Nov '79 when I 
needed one.  'Probably 'cause nobody else would buy it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D



I've never seen a green car that wasn't ugly - to each his own ---


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


And there was cactus green, too, the color of my '80 240D.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

 In that regard, what do you think of thistle green?







--
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well they just swaped it out but I have not opened it yet or 
anything.  I thought about seeing if there was a different brand 
up there that would be better.


On 8/12/2013 2:34 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
You should be able to get store credit on returns too if you 
want to buy another kind or use the credit to buy other stuff.


--R


On 8/12/13 3:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to 
pull the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran 
great on the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it 
off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took it back to 
lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new 
junk poulan saw and will see what happens


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.net wrote:


So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan 
site none of them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do 
warranty work. I called lowes and the guy said he was 95% sure 
they would exchange it if I brought it down there. I may try 
that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan is 
junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least 
work the 1 time a year I may need to use it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain 
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I think EPA made chokes disappear.
My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 
3xx-something trimmer

that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6569 - Release Date: 
08/11/13






___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Yes, it has a bulb and a choke.

On 8/12/2013 2:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to 
pull the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran 
great on the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it 
off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took it back to 
lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new 
junk poulan saw and will see what happens


Sent from my iPhone


Does it have the primer bulb and a choke?  If so, yes you can 
flood it.


My general practice for starting chaninsaws is to choke it, push 
the primer bulb if it has one; pull the rope until it starts and 
dies. Then you know it is flooded.  Then put the choke off and 
pull the rope until it starts.  On my stihl this is generally 2 
pulls, one to flood it and one to start it.  The poulans 
sometimes start this well, and sometimes don't.  The poulans 
don't start at all then the plastic fuel pickup tubing has 
rotted off from the crappy stuff the sell as gasoline these 
days.  The Stihl must have some other way of picking up the fuel 
from the tank.



On a flooded gasoline engine mit carburetor,  you open the 
throttle wide and crank.  THat works for chainsaws too.


Seems to me that maybe your saw was flooded.  May be or maybe 
not Can't tell from here.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6569 - Release Date: 
08/11/13






___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing 
to pay extra for a better saw.  I thought these were made by 
Husquvarna though?


On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if 
they will swap you for a Husquvarna.

Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.

Randy


On 12/08/2013 2:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to 
pull the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran 
great on the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it 
off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took it back to 
lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap it out with no 
problem at all. I am impressed. So now I have another brand new 
junk poulan saw and will see what happens


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.net wrote:


So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan 
site none of them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do 
warranty work. I called lowes and the guy said he was 95% sure 
they would exchange it if I brought it down there. I may try 
that just to see what happens. Long story short, poulan is 
junk. I figured it was junk but I figured it would at least 
work the 1 time a year I may need to use it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain 
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I think EPA made chokes disappear.
My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 
3xx-something trimmer

that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6569 - Release Date: 
08/11/13






___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread mlh
 I've never seen a green car that wasn't ugly - to each his own ---


http://riviera-reflections.com/green-jaguar-e-type-respray-british-racing-green/e-type-jaguar-respray-10

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?mmt=[MB[][]]listingId=351364217listingIndex=1Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?mmt=[MB[][]]listingId=346319196listingIndex=2Log=0

Mitch.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] semaphores

2013-08-12 Thread Benz Hogs

Thanks for watching :)

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 7/29/2013 10:49 AM, G Mann wrote:

Funny thing.. I see hand signals almost every time I drive... ;

Grant...

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


On 26/07/2013 10:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Randy Bennell wrote:


Every once in a while I see someone use arm signals when riding a bike.
It somehow seems odd although we used to do it all the time.



John Forrester's Effective Cycling teaches not to use the left arm car
signals, instead indicating left turns with left arm and right turns with
right arm. Forrester says there's no reason to limit yourself to left arm
when both your arms are visible.

Mitch.



  Yeah, but I was never very good at riding hands free.


Randy



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-12 Thread OK Don
OK, I admit it - an E type is beautifull in any color ---


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote:

  I've never seen a green car that wasn't ugly - to each his own ---



 http://riviera-reflections.com/green-jaguar-e-type-respray-british-racing-green/e-type-jaguar-respray-10





-- 
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell

I would not say that my truck is loud. It has a huge muffler.
I think the loud ones are likely folks who have changed the muffler to a 
louder one deliberately sort of like the Harley bunch.


Randy

On 12/08/2013 3:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

The American V8 gas pick-ups are also very loud. And many of the morons who 
drive them take advantage of that fact.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


On 12/08/2013 2:03 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud

Que?  They've all gotten extremely quiet in the last decade.


to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and whatnot and 
just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke...

Yeah, there's way too much of that going on.

-- Jim

Hard on the engine etc, but they are able to make absolutely insane amounts of 
power.

Randy

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Randy Bennell
I have no idea about that but I bought a Husquvarna a couple of years 
back and so far am happy with it.


Randy

On 12/08/2013 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing to 
pay extra for a better saw.  I thought these were made by Husquvarna 
though?


On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if they 
will swap you for a Husquvarna.

Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.

Randy





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 12, 2013 1:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The American V8 gas pick-ups are also
 very loud.


My '04 Suburban with the gas V-8 and stock exhaust is no louder than the
average car.  I think a lot of people put glasspacks on them, though, from
the sound.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Husky owns Poulan.  So, doing some looking on lowes website, and 
no more than I will use the thing, I can't really justify spending 
an extra $100 or more to get the same size 18 husky.  Looking at 
the reviews it seems these can also suffer the hard start.  What I 
am thinking about though is taking this one back and spending an 
extra $30 for the 20 Poulan pro saw.  It seems to have better 
reviews, so maybe it does not have the same problems and seems a 
little more heavy duty without spending more for the husky.


This is what I have

http://www.lowes.com/pd_182191-86886-PP4218A_4294747183__?productId=3693568Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1

this is what I am thinking about, not sure if any difference other 
than size but seems to have better reviews


http://www.lowes.com/pd_353792-86886-PP5020_4294747183__?productId=3353618Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1
On 8/12/2013 4:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
I have no idea about that but I bought a Husquvarna a couple of 
years back and so far am happy with it.


Randy

On 12/08/2013 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be 
willing to pay extra for a better saw.  I thought these were 
made by Husquvarna though?


On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see 
if they will swap you for a Husquvarna.

Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.

Randy





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6572 - Release Date: 
08/12/13






___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Scott Ritchey


Kaleb,

I hope the new saw (Poulan or other) works out.  I urge you to use only
fresh gas (to avoid gumming up the carb) and keep the mix mixed (for
longevity).  As far as I know, all these 2-cycle carbs are similar (and
fundamentally different from 4-cycle carbs) and bad fuel can harm any of
them.  I've owned several Poulan chain saws, blowers, weed whackers, etc.
They don't last forever (probably cheaper metallurgy plus lower production
QC) but I always get at least 5-10 years service unless I poison them with
bad fuel.  There must be lemons but I haven't gotten one yet.  My use is
light-duty homeowner stuff so a throw-away after a few years is OK by me.
But if I was a heavy user (like a tree guy) I'd spring for a Stihl or Echo. 

My other pet peeve is to keep the chain sharp (only requires a file).  A
dull chain is dangerous and it stresses all other parts of the saw.  You
want to see nice little chunks of wood when you cut, not dust.

I ran across the following link that has a lot of detail on these all
attitude carbs.  It may help explain my obsession about fuel.

http://www.asos1.com/smallengine02/smallengine02.htm

Note the many small fuel passages that would be easily blocked by a little
gum or varnish.




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
It seems to me you have a variable definition for flooded.
To me flooded means theres more gas available than can be handled by the spark 
plug. A wet spark plug produces considerably less spark than a dry one so 
theres no starting.

It seems you start by using flooded to mean primed but then change to 
flooded when you talk about holding full throttle to clear the extra fuel...

My Husky has a primer bulb that I only use if the saw has been sitting a few 
weeks or more. If its been running recently I flip the choke and it'll start 
pretty easy.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:35:05 -0500
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Message-ID: a062408d7ce2ee77cf6a2@[192.168.0.107]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

Does it have the primer bulb and a choke?  If so, yes you can flood it.

My general practice for starting chaninsaws is to choke it, push the 
primer bulb if it has one; pull the rope until it starts and dies. 
Then you know it is flooded.  Then put the choke off and pull the 
rope until it starts.  On my stihl this is generally 2 pulls, one to 
flood it and one to start it.  The poulans sometimes start this well, 
and sometimes don't.  The poulans don't start at all then the plastic 
fuel pickup tubing has rotted off from the crappy stuff the sell as 
gasoline these days.  The Stihl must have some other way of picking 
up the fuel from the tank.


On a flooded gasoline engine mit carburetor,  you open the throttle 
wide and crank.  THat works for chainsaws too.

Seems to me that maybe your saw was flooded.  May be or maybe not 
Can't tell from here.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Incorrect, at the end of your push you lift the plow blade and ride UP the 
pile. My Cub Cadet 70 can make snowbanks 4' high! I can also repeatedly slam 
into the pile pushing it back. Like I said before its amazing what one will do 
and mine is way underweight.

That said you're right you need to make space at the beginning of the season. 
You don't just plow to the edge of the driveway and leave it.

One other thing, plowing is fun, snowblowing is drudgery.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:03:42 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Message-ID: 52093f9e.4080...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

The catch on the pushing it is that if you get a lot of snow and it does 
not melt in between then you will run out of room unless you push it way 
way back.
A blower can be used to essentially pile it higher if need be, or blow 
it over the existing pile.
I am guessing that where Jaime is, that the snow likely melts between 
snowfalls so that it is not an issue.
Here in the GWN I don't think the little tractor would do very well. You 
need a bobcat with a bucket and tracks at a minimum to move snow here.

Randy


On 12/08/2013 2:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 I agree, although if you mostly had dry powder snow a garden tractor with a 
 bunch of weight will move a surprising amount. Other than the 2 1/2 foot 
 blizzard we had last year my Cub Cadet 70 (7hp) has never been overwhelmed by 
 snow. It would be even better if I fluid filled the tires and added a weight 
 box and another set of wheel weights.

 That said Jamie lives in Jersey. His problem will be that his snow is almost 
 always wet and heavy...

 A ride on snowblower is going to be nice for his long drive.
 A walk behind snowblower is MUCH more manuverable...

 -Curt
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Wikipedia says Husky bought Poulan but Husky and Jonsered are both owned by 
Electrolux. I suspect Poulan are actually made by the lowest bidder in China. 
My Husky says made in Sweden on it.

When I got it I was concerned that the bottom end of the motor is plastic. Now 
5 or 6 years later after hours of hard cutting I don't think it matters.

The model is more important than the brand as is where you buy it. A crappy 
homeowner saw from a big box will suck and have poor support. A good semi-pro 
model from a saw shop will give a lot more satisfaction and have much better 
support. According to Kaleb the price difference isn't all that much either.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:46 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Message-ID: 52095316.1000...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I have no idea about that but I bought a Husquvarna a couple of years 
back and so far am happy with it.

Randy

On 12/08/2013 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing to 
 pay extra for a better saw.  I thought these were made by Husquvarna 
 though?

 On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

 Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if they 
 will swap you for a Husquvarna.
 Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.

 Randy
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

Mine that start are poulan pro


Husky owns Poulan.  So, doing some looking on lowes website, and no 
more than I will use the thing, I can't really justify spending an 
extra $100 or more to get the same size 18 husky.  Looking at the 
reviews it seems these can also suffer the hard start.  What I am 
thinking about though is taking this one back and spending an extra 
$30 for the 20 Poulan pro saw.  It seems to have better reviews, so 
maybe it does not have the same problems and seems a little more 
heavy duty without spending more for the husky.


This is what I have

http://www.lowes.com/pd_182191-86886-PP4218A_4294747183__?productId=3693568Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1

this is what I am thinking about, not sure if any difference other 
than size but seems to have better reviews


http://www.lowes.com/pd_353792-86886-PP5020_4294747183__?productId=3353618Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1


I think the larger one is the same as one I have.  Hard to tell from 
the picture, but the smaller one may be the updated  version of the 
smaller one I have.  It has the choke on the right side of the handle 
while for the larger one, you can see the choke on the left side of 
the handle.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
From what I have read the bigger 20 may be more Husky than 
Poulan, if it makes a different.  I am thinking about doing the 
sway when I head back to town shortly


On 8/12/2013 5:36 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

Mine that start are poulan pro


Husky owns Poulan.  So, doing some looking on lowes website, 
and no more than I will use the thing, I can't really justify 
spending an extra $100 or more to get the same size 18 husky.  
Looking at the reviews it seems these can also suffer the hard 
start.  What I am thinking about though is taking this one back 
and spending an extra $30 for the 20 Poulan pro saw.  It seems 
to have better reviews, so maybe it does not have the same 
problems and seems a little more heavy duty without spending 
more for the husky.


This is what I have

http://www.lowes.com/pd_182191-86886-PP4218A_4294747183__?productId=3693568Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1 



this is what I am thinking about, not sure if any difference 
other than size but seems to have better reviews


http://www.lowes.com/pd_353792-86886-PP5020_4294747183__?productId=3353618Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1 



I think the larger one is the same as one I have.  Hard to tell 
from the picture, but the smaller one may be the updated  
version of the smaller one I have.  It has the choke on the 
right side of the handle while for the larger one, you can see 
the choke on the left side of the handle.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6572 - Release Date: 
08/12/13






___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

It seems to me you have a variable definition for flooded.
To me flooded means theres more gas available than can be handled by 
the spark plug. A wet spark plug produces considerably less spark 
than a dry one so theres no starting.


It seems you start by using flooded to mean primed but then 
change to flooded when you talk about holding full throttle to clear 
the extra fuel...


My Husky has a primer bulb that I only use if the saw has been 
sitting a few weeks or more. If its been running recently I flip the 
choke and it'll start pretty easy.



-Curt

I mean too rich to run.  I don't generally check to see if the spark 
plug is wet.


With the choke out, it starts, and runs and dies before I can get to 
the choke to shove it in.  TO me that is more flooded than primed. 
to me primed means there is adequate gasoline to the carb.  But I 
hate gassers, so I really don't care how you want to define the 
terms.  Gimme a Diesel!


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead

Kaleb,

I hope the new saw (Poulan or other) works out.  I urge you to use only
fresh gas (to avoid gumming up the carb) and keep the mix mixed (for
longevity).  As far as I know, all these 2-cycle carbs are similar (and
fundamentally different from 4-cycle carbs) and bad fuel can harm any of
them.  I've owned several Poulan chain saws, blowers, weed whackers, etc.
They don't last forever (probably cheaper metallurgy plus lower production
QC) but I always get at least 5-10 years service unless I poison them with
bad fuel.  There must be lemons but I haven't gotten one yet.  My use is
light-duty homeowner stuff so a throw-away after a few years is OK by me.
But if I was a heavy user (like a tree guy) I'd spring for a Stihl or Echo.

My other pet peeve is to keep the chain sharp (only requires a file).  A
dull chain is dangerous and it stresses all other parts of the saw.  You
want to see nice little chunks of wood when you cut, not dust.

I ran across the following link that has a lot of detail on these all
attitude carbs.  It may help explain my obsession about fuel.

http://www.asos1.com/smallengine02/smallengine02.htm

Note the many small fuel passages that would be easily blocked by a little
gum or varnish.


Hasn't changed from the 30s or 40s, when Farmall tractors had a decal 
by the gas cap that said buy clean fuel, Keep it clean.


Even with QA improvements, the fuel now is unstable, so it is 
probably worse than when those tractors were new.  I never use 2 
cycle gas that is over 4 months old.  I always keep the lid on the 
fuel can.  I always empty the tank of the 2 cycle engine before 
storing, and then let it run out of gas.  My 30 year old stihl has 
never failed to start.


Old 2 cycle gas can be burned in your car, or used for bbq lighter if 
you are extremely careful.  (Don't get within 3 feet of the grill 
when lighting.)  It is less volatile than straight gasoline, which 
does not make bbq lighter.  16 to one is better then 50 to one also, 
as the higher oil content makes it less volatile.


As Scott says, 2 cycle carburetors are more prone to plugging than 
other carbs.  You don't want gasoline in them getting stale or 
corroding the pot metal.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Dieselhead
From what I have read the bigger 20 may be more Husky than Poulan, 
if it makes a different.  I am thinking about doing the sway when I 
head back to town shortly


I have to say that to me the 18 is more usable than the 20 saw. 
But then I like small saws.  My all time favorite is the 16 
homely-ite  Super EZ.


I grew up using a 25 lb McCollough 24 so I really appreciated the 
Super EZ.  If I were running a saw everyday, I'd have a Stilh.


The 20 poulan may be mostly huskq, but I've never had a Huskq.  It 
is similar only in color to the 18


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread G Mann
This thread has been running for several days now, but only focused on
fuel, carb, primer, etc etc.. There is another component set to that small
engine that will cause the same level of grief. That is the ignition
system. In almost all cases spark is made by a magneto. If that magneto
pickup gap is set to wide, or to small, it will start hard, run like crap,
and not make proper power.

Again, I suggest you pull the plug, connect the plug wire, lay the plug on
the bare metal head of the engine where you can observe the spark and see
if it is a nice bright blue hot spark or a weak one.. Also, you might want
to look into how to set the gap for the magneto.. many times in production,
things are slipped through that don't really pass muster, boxed and sold.
Could be you have one that almost didn't make test cell.

Grant...

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Wikipedia says Husky bought Poulan but Husky and Jonsered are both owned
 by Electrolux. I suspect Poulan are actually made by the lowest bidder in
 China. My Husky says made in Sweden on it.

 When I got it I was concerned that the bottom end of the motor is plastic.
 Now 5 or 6 years later after hours of hard cutting I don't think it matters.

 The model is more important than the brand as is where you buy it. A
 crappy homeowner saw from a big box will suck and have poor support. A good
 semi-pro model from a saw shop will give a lot more satisfaction and have
 much better support. According to Kaleb the price difference isn't all that
 much either.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:46 -0500
 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
 Message-ID: 52095316.1000...@bennell.ca
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 I have no idea about that but I bought a Husquvarna a couple of years
 back and so far am happy with it.

 Randy

 On 12/08/2013 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing to
  pay extra for a better saw.  I thought these were made by Husquvarna
  though?
 
  On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 
  Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if they
  will swap you for a Husquvarna.
  Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.
 
  Randy
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] Keys

2013-08-12 Thread WILTON
BTW, Kaleb, recent talk about PO's providing only one key for a vehicle, 
reminded me:  I've rounded up 3 SDL keys for you so far.

Wilton
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-12 Thread Benz Hogs
Taiwan is the best Asian place to buy bicycle parts from.  Some of the 
best rims and frames are made there, both carbon and aluminum.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/7/2013 5:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

i still like bicycles and advise anyone looking for a bicycle that if they
see the words tig welded taiwan on the frame they are in good shape.

i've also been having good luck selling taiwan parts for mercedes to those
who don't want to be screwed by PRC yet dont want to buy something real

korean stuff is even better.  i wouldnt' touch a korean product in teh 80s
but would not hesitate today




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Keys

2013-08-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cool

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:00 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 BTW, Kaleb, recent talk about PO's providing only one key for a vehicle, 
 reminded me:  I've rounded up 3 SDL keys for you so far.
 
 Wilton
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


  1   2   >