Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles
If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. I like to think of the struts as hydraulic cylinders with a relief function which allows the car to ride nice. That relief function is achieved via nitrogen filled spheres, it is in effect the pressure in the spheres which is the flexible thing, without it we all know that a SLS car will ride like a brick. So I am not sure what would cause a SLS car to go boing boing? Hendrik who is thinking out aloud again On 20/04/14 14:27, Jim Cathey wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] British bargain
This would be a challenge for Dan. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02886/POTD-E-TYPE_2886854c.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
A better suggestion: get a laser printer. Higher upfront costs, but a lot easier and cheaper to use, IMHO. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are some tips for cleaning Epson printer heads (I've done more than a few, just finished up reviving an old R800 head for use in an R2880). First, the dye inks do NOT dry out in the printer. They become very viscous, but do not dry. Pigment inks do indeed dry down, but are readily resuspended. Second, cleaning cycles are only good for removing air, they will NOT fix plugs, and paradoxically, make things worse by applying a vacuum to the whole head. When the head is moved off the seal, gumming ink results in a vacuum still inside, and air is sucked up from the bottom, preventing the ink from being fired. Third, the clogs from sitting unused are almost always ink collecting on the bottom of the head and plugging the nozzles. You can suck in through the print head forever, and if you don't remove the collected grunge it will not print. It DOES drip ink all over, but the droplets will not fire onto the paper. To clean one in this condition: Install cartridges filled with ink -- aftermarkets with third party ink is a best choice, you may use quite a bit and Epson cartridges are expensive for cleaning. If you want, once you get it cleared out you can switch back. Turn the printer on and press the ink cartridge button. Once the carriage parks in the cartridge replacement station, unplug the printer WITHOUT turning it off. This leaves the carriage free to move by hand. Fold a paper towel to fit in the channel the printhead travels in over the paper. It needs to be thick enough to actually touch the prinheatd but thin enough to push the printhead over. Saturate the paper towel with Windex or other spray glass cleaner. I'm not sure I would use 409, it might be too strong. Lay the towel in the channel and wipe the printhead over it. Likely it will instantly turn black with gummy ink. Remove the towel and replace with a fresh one, adjusting thickness as necessary to gently wipe the bottom of the printhead until you get obvious traces of the correct ink colors. Get a spray bottle of windex or other glass cleaner and carefully fill the sponge and seal of the cartridge cappping station. Use a dry paper towel to blot up the dissolved ink until the station is mostly clean. Wipe down the rubber seal, make sure it is not gummy with dried ink. Fill the sponge in the capping station with Windex and push the carriage over it. Briefly plug the printer in until the carriage drops onto the seal and unplug it again. You don't want the pump to suck the Windex out, you want to soak the bottom of the head. Leave it at least a couple hours. Overnight is better. Next day plug the printer in and turn it on. It should do a quick cleaning cycle. Print a nozzle check. If you are really lucky, you will get at least most of the nozzles firing. Ignore the fact that the ink colors are likely wrong, you have been mixing the ink with cleaner and it will wick up into the nozzle chambers randomly. If you have a decent number of clear nozzles, print a purge page (marruttusa.com has a selection). By the end of the page, you should be able to tell if you have decent ink flow or not. Drips of ink onto the page means you have Windex in the nozzles, it causes ink to leak. This is not a big issue a this point. Print another nozzle check. Should be better. If not, do a clean cycle but unplug the printer when the wiper blade is up -- it's beside the capping station, watch for the printer to flip it up to wipe the printhead. Crap built up on the wiper simply plugs the nozzles by wiping gummy dried ink into them, hardly a way to clear them. Wipe it down with windex, make sure it's quite clean. Plug it back in and do one clean cycle, then print a nozzle check. With some luck, a dye printer will be working pretty well by now. Pigment printers require more work, usually. If a couple cycles of soaking and printing purge pages doesn't do the trick, you will have to find some syringes and plastic tubing that will fit over the spikes the cartridges connect to on the printhead. push the ink button and unplug the printer when the carriage is free. Remove the cartridges, and fold up a dry paper towel to fit under the printhead. Heat some windex in the microwave -- you can add some glycerin if you have it to raise the viscocity, it helps later -- and fill a syringe with the hot windex and attach some tubing to allow you to connect to the spike. Push the tubing over the spike for whatever color isn't working right, and move the carriage over the dry paper towel. GENTLY press on the syringe plunger to force hot windex through the printhead. If it won't move under gentle
[MBZ] Curious wisdom of Steven Wright
** ** ** *1 - I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. 2 - Borrow money from pessimists -- they don't expect it back. 3 - Half the people you know are below average. 4 - 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. 5 - 82.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. 6 - A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good. 7 - A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. 8 - If you want the rainbow, youhave got to put up with the rain. 9 - All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand. 10 - The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. 11 - I almost had a psychic girlfriend... But she left me before we met. 12 - OK, so what's the speed of dark? 13 - How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink? 14 - If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. 15 - Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm. 16 - When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane. 17 - Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. 18 - Hard work pays off in the future; laziness pays off now. 19 - I intend to live forever... So far, so good. 20 - If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? 21 - Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. 22 - What happens if you get scared half to death twice? 23 - My mechanic told me, I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. 24 - Why do psychics have to ask you for your name. 25 - If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. 26 - A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. 27 - Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. 28 - The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. 29 - To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. 30 - The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. 31 - The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. 32 - The colder the x-ray table, the more of your body is required to be on it. 33 - Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. * *34 - If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you* *.35 - If your car could travel at the speed of light, would your headlights work?* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Happy Easter
*A man is driving along a highway and sees a rabbit* *jump out across the middle of the road.* *He swerves to avoid hitting it, but unfortunately the* *rabbit jumps right in front of the car.** ** The driver, a sensitive man as well as an animal* *lover, pulls over and gets out to see what has become of the rabbit. Much to his dismay, the rabbit is* *the **Easter Bunny**, and he is **DEAD **. ** The driver feels so awfulthat hebegins to cry. A beautiful blonde woman driving down the highway sees a man crying on the side of the road and pulls over.** ** She steps out of the car and asks the man what's wrong. ** ** I feel terrible, ! he explains, I accidentally hit the Easter Bunny with my car and KILLED HIM.* * The blonde says,Don't worry. * *She runs to her car and pulls out a spray can. She walks over to the limp, dead Easter Bunny, bends down, and sprays the contents onto him. ** The Easter Bunny jumps up, waves its paw at the* *two of them and hops off down the road.** ** Ten feet away he stops, turns around and waves* *again, he hops down the road another 10 feet, turns and waves, hops another ten feet, turns and waves, and repeats this again and again* *and again and again, until he hops out of sight.* *The man is astonished. He runs over to the woman and demands,* *What is in that can? What did you spray on the Easter Bunny ? ** ** The woman turns the can around so that the man can read the label.* *It says..** ** **(Are you ready for this?)** **(You know you're gonna be sorry)* *(Last chance)* / //(OK, here it is)/ *It says,* *_Hair Spray_** **Restores life to dead hair, and adds permanent wave.* *H**a**p**p**y**E**a**s**t**e**r**!**!**!* http://www.incredimail.com/?id=621131did=10501ppd=2812,201301281447,9,1,603702072833998847rui=149899758app_test_id=0sd=20140416 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
You wouldn't make that suggestion if you compared color photographs printed on the two machines. You will be very frustrated if you use an Epson photo printer for plain text, though. It will look perfect, but the ink is expensive and you will have trouble with the color when you do print photographs. For plain text, I recommend a laser or Cannon/HP printer with pigment black ink. Less expensive and less maintenance. Nothing beats one of the Epson printers for photographs though, especially the Claria II dye printers on glossy paper. Not maintenance free though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far, so good. All our BW printing is on HP laser printers. It's the color that is problematic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles
If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. Yes, and that point is _supposed_ to be (approximately) the center of travel of the cylinders. I suspect that here there is additional damage, and/or wrong parts, etc. so that the system is still all out of whack. The system is fundamentally simple, but the geometry is critical. The leveling valve is poorly named, its purpose is NOT to make the car level. Its purpose is to CENTER the suspension travel regardless of load. If the rest of the car is in proper shape only THEN is the car level too. Who was it that had black suspension oil? Isn't that due to the rubber in the spheres decomposing? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles
Not exactly. The system achieves a base pressure irrespective of the position of the valve. It can be in the drain position, the system will still pressurise. If the control lever reaches the filling position because of added load (or maladjustment) it will admit more fluid to raise the car so the valve once again achieves the neutral position. On Apr 20, 2014, at 4:36, Henifay wrote: If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
I had a Minolta color laser printer that did a good job, but color laser is not ideal for photos. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far, so good. All our BW printing is on HP laser printers. It's the color that is problematic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n
No cat food content however http://jalopnik.com/why-i-love-mercedes-twin-turbo-v8s-1563742663 http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-coupe-suv-concept-is-benzs-bmw-x6-1565261075 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n
Did anyone se the Binz wagon on BAT today? I'm in love. Dan On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No cat food content however http://jalopnik.com/why-i-love-mercedes-twin-turbo-v8s-1563742663 http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-coupe-suv-concept-is-benzs-bmw-x6-1565261075 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] I'm back
So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't really in it. I decided it would make much more sense to get a W123 or W124 wagon with a trailer hitch. I know how to fix them, can get cheap parts, and they're not so... ugly. My 5x10 utility trailer can hold quite a bit when its needed. Unfortunately, wagons aren't easy to find. I don't mind ugly, but it has to be safe and run reasonably well, or be priced accordingly. Since I like challenges, I responded to this ad: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4398432114.html The owner told me they are just looking for a good home... bingo: I'm a good home. I went to check it out, but was disappointed. It was last on the road in 1994 and stored in a damp garage. The wheels were frozen solid. Previous rust repair on the rockers. All the parts needed to put the car back together were spread all over the place and covered in rust (including things like the cam and rockers). The rebuilt engine was lovely, except it wasn't assembled beyond torquing the head down to the block. Everything was covered in surface rust... just enough to start some pitting. The lower oil pan was off and it was the same inside. What a shame. It might be salvageable, but the engine would have to been taken down completely again to check. And the car wasn't worth putting together. So I passed, even if it could be had for a much cheaper price than advertised. They discussed scrapping the whole thing as an alternative to selling, at which point I might be interested again. To satisfy my need for some utility for now, I put one of those cheap Curt trailer hitches on my 83 300D... the kind that bolts through the spare tire well. Despite being a very original car that drives really outstanding and only has 140k miles, I have to continually remind myself that this car is my beater which I bought for daily driving and its ok to do such things. I still feel guilty. Installation was easy... about 30 minutes to drill some holes and torque it down. Wiring up the lights nicely took much more time, as I soldiered directly to the pins in the taillight connectors. Its hard to melt that 30 year old solder in those lovely silver pins. Elsewhere in the garage, I pulled the head off of the 1970 bat-shit 280SE some of you may know about. The very short version of the story is: I bought the car between christmas and new years. 77k documented miles, original paint, very nice. It was in a barn and covered in bird and bat droppings for several years. I got it running in place and drove it out onto a trailer. I got it home, replaced a huge number of parts to make it reliable. It was somewhat of a rush job, as I had to get the car on the road to be used in the final episode of The Americans season 2. (Look for the brown W108 shot from behind). I got the car all back together, brand new tires on it, and drove it about 200 miles total over the course of a week. Everything was great, except it would run hot. Not too bad, and the car made it on TV. After much diagnosis, I decided the head gasket was at fault. I pulled the head last weekend and I'm waiting for the machine shop to give me the ok to put it back together. While I'm waiting I'm doing other odds and ends, including cleaning up the injectors in my new ebay purchase: an ultrasonic cleaner. I drove my 67 300SEL last weekend for about 125 miles... the first real driving in warm weather now that the roads are free of salt. I'm happy to report it does very well. The hydraulic fan coupler which I had to rebuild twice actually works and doesn't leak. After coming off the highway, the fan was clearly engaged and pulling air. Still huge amounts of work to do on this car, but its wonderful to drive it as I go. I guess thats enough Mercedes stuff for now... its been a busy few weeks. Happy easter everyone, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
4k, they are on crack. More like $400 maybe. On 4/20/2014 7:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't really in it. I decided it would make much more sense to get a W123 or W124 wagon with a trailer hitch. I know how to fix them, can get cheap parts, and they're not so... ugly. My 5x10 utility trailer can hold quite a bit when its needed. Unfortunately, wagons aren't easy to find. I don't mind ugly, but it has to be safe and run reasonably well, or be priced accordingly. Since I like challenges, I responded to this ad: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4398432114.html The owner told me they are just looking for a good home... bingo: I'm a good home. I went to check it out, but was disappointed. It was last on the road in 1994 and stored in a damp garage. The wheels were frozen solid. Previous rust repair on the rockers. All the parts needed to put the car back together were spread all over the place and covered in rust (including things like the cam and rockers). The rebuilt engine was lovely, except it wasn't assembled beyond torquing the head down to the block. Everything was covered in surface rust... just enough to start some pitting. The lower oil pan was off and it was the same inside. What a shame. It might be salvageable, but the engine would have to been taken down completely again to check. And the car wasn't worth putting together. So I passed, even if it could be had for a much cheaper price than advertised. They discussed scrapping the whole thing as an alternative to selling, at which point I might be interested again. To satisfy my need for some utility for now, I put one of those cheap Curt trailer hitches on my 83 300D... the kind that bolts through the spare tire well. Despite being a very original car that drives really outstanding and only has 140k miles, I have to continually remind myself that this car is my beater which I bought for daily driving and its ok to do such things. I still feel guilty. Installation was easy... about 30 minutes to drill some holes and torque it down. Wiring up the lights nicely took much more time, as I soldiered directly to the pins in the taillight connectors. Its hard to melt that 30 year old solder in those lovely silver pins. Elsewhere in the garage, I pulled the head off of the 1970 bat-shit 280SE some of you may know about. The very short version of the story is: I bought the car between christmas and new years. 77k documented miles, original paint, very nice. It was in a barn and covered in bird and bat droppings for several years. I got it running in place and drove it out onto a trailer. I got it home, replaced a huge number of parts to make it reliable. It was somewhat of a rush job, as I had to get the car on the road to be used in the final episode of The Americans season 2. (Look for the brown W108 shot from behind). I got the car all back together, brand new tires on it, and drove it about 200 miles total over the course of a week. Everything was great, except it would run hot. Not too bad, and the car made it on TV. After much diagnosis, I decided the head gasket was at fault. I pulled the head last weekend and I'm waiting for the machine shop to give me the ok to put it back together. While I'm waiting I'm doing other odds and ends, including cleaning up the injectors in my new ebay purchase: an ultrasonic cleaner. I drove my 67 300SEL last weekend for about 125 miles... the first real driving in warm weather now that the roads are free of salt. I'm happy to report it does very well. The hydraulic fan coupler which I had to rebuild twice actually works and doesn't leak. After coming off the highway, the fan was clearly engaged and pulling air. Still huge amounts of work to do on this car, but its wonderful to drive it as I go. I guess thats enough Mercedes stuff for now... its been a busy few weeks. Happy easter everyone, Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n
http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/19/no-reserve-1964-mercedes-benz-fintail-wagon/ On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did anyone se the Binz wagon on BAT today? I'm in love. Dan On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No cat food content however http://jalopnik.com/why-i-love-mercedes-twin-turbo-v8s-1563742663 http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-coupe-suv-concept-is-benzs-bmw-x6-1565261075 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
i knew a guy in NJ once who had a simply cherry silver 300TD. maybe you can buy his? On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't really in it. I decided it would make much more sense to get a W123 or W124 wagon with a trailer hitch. I know how to fix them, can get cheap parts, and they're not so... ugly. My 5x10 utility trailer can hold quite a bit when its needed. Unfortunately, wagons aren't easy to find. I don't mind ugly, but it has to be safe and run reasonably well, or be priced accordingly. Since I like challenges, I responded to this ad: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4398432114.html The owner told me they are just looking for a good home... bingo: I'm a good home. I went to check it out, but was disappointed. It was last on the road in 1994 and stored in a damp garage. The wheels were frozen solid. Previous rust repair on the rockers. All the parts needed to put the car back together were spread all over the place and covered in rust (including things like the cam and rockers). The rebuilt engine was lovely, except it wasn't assembled beyond torquing the head down to the block. Everything was covered in surface rust... just enough to start some pitting. The lower oil pan was off and it was the same inside. What a shame. It might be salvageable, but the engine would have to been taken down completely again to check. And the car wasn't worth putting together. So I passed, even if it could be had for a much cheaper price than advertised. They discussed scrapping the whole thing as an alternative to selling, at which point I might be interested again. To satisfy my need for some utility for now, I put one of those cheap Curt trailer hitches on my 83 300D... the kind that bolts through the spare tire well. Despite being a very original car that drives really outstanding and only has 140k miles, I have to continually remind myself that this car is my beater which I bought for daily driving and its ok to do such things. I still feel guilty. Installation was easy... about 30 minutes to drill some holes and torque it down. Wiring up the lights nicely took much more time, as I soldiered directly to the pins in the taillight connectors. Its hard to melt that 30 year old solder in those lovely silver pins. Elsewhere in the garage, I pulled the head off of the 1970 bat-shit 280SE some of you may know about. The very short version of the story is: I bought the car between christmas and new years. 77k documented miles, original paint, very nice. It was in a barn and covered in bird and bat droppings for several years. I got it running in place and drove it out onto a trailer. I got it home, replaced a huge number of parts to make it reliable. It was somewhat of a rush job, as I had to get the car on the road to be used in the final episode of The Americans season 2. (Look for the brown W108 shot from behind). I got the car all back together, brand new tires on it, and drove it about 200 miles total over the course of a week. Everything was great, except it would run hot. Not too bad, and the car made it on TV. After much diagnosis, I decided the head gasket was at fault. I pulled the head last weekend and I'm waiting for the machine shop to give me the ok to put it back together. While I'm waiting I'm doing other odds and ends, including cleaning up the injectors in my new ebay purchase: an ultrasonic cleaner. I drove my 67 300SEL last weekend for about 125 miles... the first real driving in warm weather now that the roads are free of salt. I'm happy to report it does very well. The hydraulic fan coupler which I had to rebuild twice actually works and doesn't leak. After coming off the highway, the fan was clearly engaged and pulling air. Still huge amounts of work to do on this car, but its wonderful to drive it as I go. I guess thats enough Mercedes stuff for now... its been a busy few weeks. Happy easter everyone, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:08:02 -0400 From: jaime...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] I'm back So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I thought that you and your BIL went in halfsies on one... Memory must be going Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Headlight switch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 1:37 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
If both bulbs are burned out, the light out won't detect the problem. It measures the current flow to each side of the car. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 1:38 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
I think the pump rebuild kits aren't too expensive, but more expensive than a fluid change. After you replace the spheres, change the fluid and watch the color. If engine oil it's contaminating, would the fluid level change? Would the engine oil level change? Easiest way to change the fluid is to direct the return line at the engine compartment to drain into a different container, start the car, and replace the fluid in the reservoir as the level drops. Once the drain line runs clear, with the car off, load up the rear, open the bleed valve and drain out the sphere-side. Be careful as the rear will drop quite a bit. Top up the reservoir, done. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. Aren't L R fogs fused separately? I thought I recalled that the usual MB fuse box had 6 headlight fuses. Anyway, the fuses are downstream of the headlight switch. If the fuses are hot the switch isn't at fault. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it to be black enough to see from motor oil intrusion, the viscosity ought to be more like motor oil. Is it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Could be the bulb-out unit as well, if the solder cracks on the pins (as lead free solder is known to do) the fuses will be hot but no current gets to the lamps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
cool stuff --R On 4/20/14 8:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 380 is a 560, original owner, hmmm
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4431768880.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
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[MBZ] 300TD for Jaime
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?
Hi all, I forgot to ask if the hose to the various vacuum pods will need replacing? Or perhaps just nip the ends if cracked?I'll buy a meter to have some on hand.But nothing extravagant? Thanks! Larry 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?
'Didn't notice any damages at all to mine in '08 - 22 years old by then. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods? Hi all, I forgot to ask if the hose to the various vacuum pods will need replacing? Or perhaps just nip the ends if cracked?I'll buy a meter to have some on hand.But nothing extravagant? Thanks! Larry 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 380 is a 560, original owner, hmmm
Scammer, perhaps? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300TD for Jaime
Hope those pics were taken before the SLS valve rebuild, the rear end looks too low to my eye... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Springs first, you have good evidence they are wrong springs... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?
The hoses are the typical hard plastic lines. Since they're not subjected to the kinds of temperatures that you see under the hood, they should be OK. I wouldn't worry about replacing them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all, I forgot to ask if the hose to the various vacuum pods will need replacing? Or perhaps just nip the ends if cracked?I'll buy a meter to have some on hand.But nothing extravagant? Thanks! Larry 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
That's *hydroscopic* Darned autocorrect. Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
hydrous optic Hygroscopic? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
I think it needs to be un-pimped... http://youtu.be/l1jSPw5OSWw Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
I thought the wheels spoke your name. On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] grid
Rick wrote: Or this? And this one is just up the road - nice!! Thanks. I suppose even hobby lobby might have this type of stuff and that is just a short bike ride. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
Grossly. Wilt - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL I think it needs to be un-pimped... http://youtu.be/l1jSPw5OSWw Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL
Well yes. I think the wheels are the least of the problems of this beauty. Dwight. On Apr 20, 2014 8:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Grossly. Wilt - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL I think it needs to be un-pimped... http://youtu.be/l1jSPw5OSWw Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
WILTON wrote: 123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Is the 124 the best handling car you've had? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
Yes I miss my 240D's too. I won't argue with you about a 126. I have never owned one but have driven several I lust in my heart for one. On Apr 20, 2014 8:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300TD for Jaime
That doesn't look bad... but if he ran it on anything but diesel, I wouldn't buy it. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
I'd rather a 123 over a 124 for several reasons... I still have a 123 as my daily driver. A 124 wagon would be fine for me for what I need... earlier gas ones don't seem to be too valuable. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status
Wife really likes a 2011 ML350BT at a local dealer. CPO, low miles. Anything I should look out for with this vehicle? Only issues I know of are potential leaking oil cooler and no transmission dipstick. Are these real issues? ( if it's covered to 100k miles). Anything else? BTW, our friends in Jacksonville have a deposit on their 91 350 SDL and waiting for the guy to get his ins check for the balance. Looks like a done deal. Angelo G 90 350SDL Rodbender, 279k miles...and still ticking... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Ya gotta love auto correct. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Greg FiorentinoSent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:25 PMTo: 'Mercedes Discussion List'Reply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil hydrous optic Hygroscopic? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
Well I really wouldn't argue that. My 79 240D was my daily driver for years. That's on I95 going into Boston. Succumbed to tin worm at ~ 300k miles. As they say they're all good- oh wait a minute then there are the rusty 210's. On Apr 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather a 123 over a 124 for several reasons... I still have a 123 as my daily driver. A 124 wagon would be fine for me for what I need... earlier gas ones don't seem to be too valuable. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
Early 124 wagons suffer from cracking rear subframe mounts. Later years had beefier metal in back, no cracking. Plus they look much better than the early models, came with stock euro headlights. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather a 123 over a 124 for several reasons... I still have a 123 as my daily driver. A 124 wagon would be fine for me for what I need... earlier gas ones don't seem to be too valuable. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and cost of operating. (300-500 miles a week) )So Andrew you are right about looks but IMHO if you ever need a serious daily driver I think in general it's hard to beat a 124. On Apr 20, 2014 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n
Ooh oooh, Wilton won't like the big hole in the roof. Hendrik who has a proper MB wagon On 21/04/14 02:14, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/19/no-reserve-1964-mercedes-benz-fintail-wagon/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
...chuckles... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 9:46 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back
124 is good, but 126 is best. Drives like flying on a cool clear day; rock steady; only slight pressure left or right on steering wheel to put it 'zackly where ya want it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back WILTON wrote: 123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Is the 124 the best handling car you've had? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status
Le'me know if deal falls through. Wilton - Original Message - From: Angelo Giaimo michaelangel...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status Wife really likes a 2011 ML350BT at a local dealer. CPO, low miles. Anything I should look out for with this vehicle? Only issues I know of are potential leaking oil cooler and no transmission dipstick. Are these real issues? ( if it's covered to 100k miles). Anything else? BTW, our friends in Jacksonville have a deposit on their 91 350 SDL and waiting for the guy to get his ins check for the balance. Looks like a done deal. Angelo G 90 350SDL Rodbender, 279k miles...and still ticking... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] sls troubles black
thanks, I thought about the pressure keeping potential oil out i haven't felt the oil, but i probably have not had to add any for a year or more it's right in the middle of the reservoir or maybe 60% full the sls fluid is lighter wt than motor oil but i wonder if i could feel the difference mixed in it could be spheres and hoses deteriorating xx rick Rick Hawkins From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Date: April 20, 2014 3:13:27 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it to be black enough to see from motor oil intrusion, the viscosity ought to be more like motor oil. Is it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles
Jim wrote: Who was it that had black suspension oil? Isn't that due to the rubber in the spheres decomposing? I did. But on mine it was the shaft seal on the pump. I suspect it was run without fluid for too long and really gouged the shaft. I took the pump from another car and mix/matched parts to get the best from each. Rusty supplied the new shaft seal, as I recall. It's done okay after that. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
