[MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck

2014-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmVX8fRvCAI

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[MBZ] Bounces

2014-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I tried to use my Yahoo account to reply to a Freecycle message this morning.  
The recipient had a GMail address.  Here's the header from the bounce:

The error that the other server returned was:
550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's
550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if
550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit
550-5.7.1 http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about DMARC
550 5.7.1 initiative. l19si12382793yhe.28 - gsmtp

Interesting.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Bounces

2014-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

Dan Penoff wrote:

I tried to use my Yahoo account to reply to a Freecycle message this morning.  
The recipient had a GMail address.  Here's the header from the bounce:

The error that the other server returned was:
550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's
550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if
550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit
550-5.7.1 http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about DMARC
550 5.7.1 initiative. l19si12382793yhe.28 - gsmtp

Interesting.


Trade war?
Google thinks it can kill its main competitor, Yahoo, by making it impossible 
for Yahoo mail users to communicate with Gmail users?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck

2014-05-11 Thread Meade Dillon
Rather hard on the hydraulics?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On May 11, 2014 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmVX8fRvCAI


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck

2014-05-11 Thread OK Don
Cool!!!


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck

2014-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchey
Maybe not so much.  Hydraulics amaze me.  Check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BJnjpdY6I


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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck
 
 Rather hard on the hydraulics?
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 
 On May 11, 2014 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmVX8fRvCAI
 
 
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[MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread WILTON
Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could mean 
everybody's out workin' on 'em.

So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 'may 
hafta pick another subject.   ;)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Everyone is probably busy with Moms today, hopefully.

Dan


On May 11, 2014, at 4:39 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could 
 mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.
 
 So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 
 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Fred Moir
I'd give a lot for that to be true.

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 Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 16:58:07 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow day
 
 Everyone is probably busy with Moms today, hopefully.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On May 11, 2014, at 4:39 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
  Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could 
  mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.
  
  So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 
  'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)
  
  Wilton
  
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Dwight Giles
Neither one  for me. Just taking mothers day off
Go for another Sondy tale, Wilton.
On May 11, 2014 4:42 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could
 mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.

 So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out;
 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Peter Frederick
outdoor stuff, now cancelled by rain and checking my bees -- that  
caused a scurry to find more empty frames, they are full up already,  
in just a week!


Looks like a good honey crop for once, just wish I'd not goofed up on  
that split last year and lost my other hive, I'd be swimming in honey  
this year!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on 
the road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am 
getting a airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.  I can't seem to 
even access the airmatic module via DAS.  Something in the front SAM is 
causing it I believe and all the tests I run keep coming back to what is 
basically the fancy electronic ignition key. Strange thing is that it 
passes all the tests and comes up with no error codes.  It is like there 
is some circuit that tells some other computer module to turn on the 
airmatic.  No leaks, the system just will not turn on.  So, it appears 
its either the ignition, the front SAM, wiring, or a bad relay, but I 
have swapped relays around in the fuse box and that does not cure it, so 
I am pretty sure I have eliminated that as a problem (relay that is ).  
So I go back to ignition switch or front SAM.

On 5/11/2014 3:39 PM, WILTON wrote:

Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could mean 
everybody's out workin' on 'em.

So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 'may 
hafta pick another subject.   ;)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

Fred Moir wrote:

I'd give a lot for that to be true.


I was there, planned on pruning her apple trees.
Between the heat (88°F) and my total lack of conditioning, I can run a pole saw 
for a couple of minutes where I could have done it for five minutes last fall.


Oh well, got a few branches pruned of the tree that suffered the worst bark 
browsing last winter, will finish up later in the week when it's cool outside, 
and I'll take along a chain saw for the bigger branches. Pushing a pole saw 
through a single 3 limb leaves me gasping.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on 
the road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am 
getting a airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.


I guess I won't be owning one of those outside of warranty.

But if I buy a 10-15 year old ML, it won't be any worse than a same year 210 
4matic, right?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas

I sent a pic of my hops plantation but the list mom did not approve it

--R


On 5/11/14 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Everyone is probably busy with Moms today, hopefully.

Dan


On May 11, 2014, at 4:39 PM, WILTON wrote:


Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could mean 
everybody's out workin' on 'em.

So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 'may 
hafta pick another subject.   ;)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Gary Hurst
Aurmatic is nice.  Till it breaks
On May 11, 2014 5:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on the
 road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am getting a
 airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.  I can't seem to even access the
 airmatic module via DAS.  Something in the front SAM is causing it I
 believe and all the tests I run keep coming back to what is basically the
 fancy electronic ignition key. Strange thing is that it passes all the
 tests and comes up with no error codes.  It is like there is some circuit
 that tells some other computer module to turn on the airmatic.  No leaks,
 the system just will not turn on.  So, it appears its either the ignition,
 the front SAM, wiring, or a bad relay, but I have swapped relays around in
 the fuse box and that does not cure it, so I am pretty sure I have
 eliminated that as a problem (relay that is ).  So I go back to ignition
 switch or front SAM.
 On 5/11/2014 3:39 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but
 could mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.

 So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run
 out; 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)

 Wilton
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[MBZ] OT something everyone can agree on

2014-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas

Hops!  Beer!

My neighbor set up a hops plantation infrastructure for a buddy and me, 
we planted 6 kinds of hops last Saturday and one is already sprouting!


The Sea Islands Hop Plantation!  We'll have to see what grows here, 
given it is hot and humid with all kinds of things that like to kill plants.


--R






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Re: [MBZ] OT something everyone can agree on

2014-05-11 Thread Meade Dillon
I won't agree until I've experienced a taste.  A whole bottle taste.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On May 11, 2014 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Hops!  Beer!

 My neighbor set up a hops plantation infrastructure for a buddy and me, we
 planted 6 kinds of hops last Saturday and one is already sprouting!

 The Sea Islands Hop Plantation!  We'll have to see what grows here, given
 it is hot and humid with all kinds of things that like to kill plants.

 --R






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Re: [MBZ] OT something everyone can agree on

2014-05-11 Thread Meade Dillon
How about I give you back the spring compressor, in exchange for a taste?

Joking aside, lunch later this week?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On May 11, 2014 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Hops!  Beer!

 My neighbor set up a hops plantation infrastructure for a buddy and me, we
 planted 6 kinds of hops last Saturday and one is already sprouting!

 The Sea Islands Hop Plantation!  We'll have to see what grows here, given
 it is hot and humid with all kinds of things that like to kill plants.

 --R






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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread clay
I got a ignition lock body off fleabay for install into Frosch.  Came with its 
own key and I am awaiting the magic the Black Forest Elves with forging a new 
tumbler.  In the meanwhile, I used the data from the locksmith to saturate the 
old tumbler with  Tri-Flo and poke around with the key.  I spent an hour doing 
that until black ooze was coating my key.  Still no twist on the key.  Figure I 
will allow it to soak in more

clay


On May 11, 2014, at 1:39 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but could 
 mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.
 
 So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run out; 
 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread WILTON

Heat?!  In Michigan?!  Oh, that must be SOUTHERN Michigan.  ;)

Reminds me:  On July 4th weekend at Kincheloe (20 south of Ste. Marie), 
'still had a significant pile of snow in shady area of our front yard.  I 
was gonna see how long it'd be before it melted.  I left the house for 
little while to go to BX; while I was out, 17-year-old daughter 
shoveled/scattered the pile around into the sun; pile was gone by next 
afternoon.  I was a little disappointed - wanted to be able to say, We 
still had snow in our yard in middle of July.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow day


Fred Moir wrote:

I'd give a lot for that to be true.


I was there, planned on pruning her apple trees.
Between the heat (88°F) and my total lack of conditioning, I can run a pole 
saw
for a couple of minutes where I could have done it for five minutes last 
fall.


Oh well, got a few branches pruned of the tree that suffered the worst bark
browsing last winter, will finish up later in the week when it's cool 
outside,

and I'll take along a chain saw for the bigger branches. Pushing a pole saw
through a single 3 limb leaves me gasping.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
This does not appear to be an airmatic problem per se, something is 
preventing it from working, another system, and I keep getting lead back 
to ignition switch, which seems wierd.  in order for it to be replaced, 
all sorts of coding has to be done with special workshop keys, a green 
key, a red key so on and so forth.


On 5/11/2014 5:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

Aurmatic is nice.  Till it breaks
On May 11, 2014 5:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on the
road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am getting a
airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.  I can't seem to even access the
airmatic module via DAS.  Something in the front SAM is causing it I
believe and all the tests I run keep coming back to what is basically the
fancy electronic ignition key. Strange thing is that it passes all the
tests and comes up with no error codes.  It is like there is some circuit
that tells some other computer module to turn on the airmatic.  No leaks,
the system just will not turn on.  So, it appears its either the ignition,
the front SAM, wiring, or a bad relay, but I have swapped relays around in
the fuse box and that does not cure it, so I am pretty sure I have
eliminated that as a problem (relay that is ).  So I go back to ignition
switch or front SAM.
On 5/11/2014 3:39 PM, WILTON wrote:


Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but
could mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.

So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run
out; 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)

Wilton
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[MBZ] R320CDI

2014-05-11 Thread WILTON
Son says tranny noise on his R320CDI is commonly called Rumble Strip Noise or 
RSN.  'Sounds like driving on a rumble strip.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread WILTON

'Already knew I didn't want a GL.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow day


This does not appear to be an airmatic problem per se, something is 
preventing it from working, another system, and I keep getting lead back 
to ignition switch, which seems wierd.  in order for it to be replaced, 
all sorts of coding has to be done with special workshop keys, a green 
key, a red key so on and so forth.


On 5/11/2014 5:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

Aurmatic is nice.  Till it breaks
On May 11, 2014 5:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on 
the
road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am 
getting a
airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.  I can't seem to even access 
the

airmatic module via DAS.  Something in the front SAM is causing it I
believe and all the tests I run keep coming back to what is basically 
the

fancy electronic ignition key. Strange thing is that it passes all the
tests and comes up with no error codes.  It is like there is some 
circuit
that tells some other computer module to turn on the airmatic.  No 
leaks,
the system just will not turn on.  So, it appears its either the 
ignition,
the front SAM, wiring, or a bad relay, but I have swapped relays around 
in

the fuse box and that does not cure it, so I am pretty sure I have
eliminated that as a problem (relay that is ).  So I go back to ignition
switch or front SAM.
On 5/11/2014 3:39 PM, WILTON wrote:


Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but
could mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.

So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run
out; 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI

2014-05-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Somewhat like a bad wheel bearing. That is the bearings in the from diff, easy 
to replace. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Son says tranny noise on his R320CDI is commonly called Rumble Strip Noise 
 or RSN.  'Sounds like driving on a rumble strip.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's great when it doesn't have problems.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 11, 2014, at 6:36 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 'Already knew I didn't want a GL.  ;)
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow day
 
 
 This does not appear to be an airmatic problem per se, something is 
 preventing it from working, another system, and I keep getting lead back to 
 ignition switch, which seems wierd.  in order for it to be replaced, all 
 sorts of coding has to be done with special workshop keys, a green key, a 
 red key so on and so forth.
 
 On 5/11/2014 5:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 Aurmatic is nice.  Till it breaks
 On May 11, 2014 5:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 I have been out screwing around with my GL again.  Just got it back on the
 road after the transfer case replacement, now all the sudden I am getting a
 airmatic malfunction warning in the dash.  I can't seem to even access the
 airmatic module via DAS.  Something in the front SAM is causing it I
 believe and all the tests I run keep coming back to what is basically the
 fancy electronic ignition key. Strange thing is that it passes all the
 tests and comes up with no error codes.  It is like there is some circuit
 that tells some other computer module to turn on the airmatic.  No leaks,
 the system just will not turn on.  So, it appears its either the ignition,
 the front SAM, wiring, or a bad relay, but I have swapped relays around in
 the fuse box and that does not cure it, so I am pretty sure I have
 eliminated that as a problem (relay that is ).  So I go back to ignition
 switch or front SAM.
 On 5/11/2014 3:39 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but
 could mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.
 
 So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run
 out; 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow day

2014-05-11 Thread Gary Hurst
Big pliers
On May 11, 2014 7:20 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 I got a ignition lock body off fleabay for install into Frosch.  Came with
 its own key and I am awaiting the magic the Black Forest Elves with forging
 a new tumbler.  In the meanwhile, I used the data from the locksmith to
 saturate the old tumbler with  Tri-Flo and poke around with the key.  I
 spent an hour doing that until black ooze was coating my key.  Still no
 twist on the key.  Figure I will allow it to soak in more

 clay


 On May 11, 2014, at 1:39 PM, WILTON wrote:

  Mighty slow day; 'hope it means everybody MBs have not problems, but
 could mean everybody's out workin' on 'em.
 
  So slow, I may hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale.  'Bout to run
 out; 'may hafta pick another subject.   ;)
 
  Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Slow turning day

2014-05-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay

As a last resort you can try force, pair of vise grips are the go.
Did this on a 201, tried everything to get it to turn, I was down to 
using force or start cutting into it.
Figured that I might as well get heavy handed with it before cutting it 
into pieces.

Bit of grunt got it turning.

Hendrik
who is a bit heavy handed sometimes

On 12/05/14 08:50, clay wrote:

I got a ignition lock body off fleabay for install into Frosch.  Came with its 
own key and I am awaiting the magic the Black Forest Elves with forging a new 
tumbler.  In the meanwhile, I used the data from the locksmith to saturate the 
old tumbler with  Tri-Flo and poke around with the key.  I spent an hour doing 
that until black ooze was coating my key.  Still no twist on the key.  Figure I 
will allow it to soak in more

clay



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Re: [MBZ] Slow GL day

2014-05-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay

Is the GL the new 140, great when working?
We have discussed the use of technology in cars before I believe but 
it's doomed. All these computers and systems are bound to fail eventually.
The Japanese seem to be better at making this stuff work but what is the 
lifespan of these electronics?

Especially in a vehicular environment.
Someone sent in a tip on the OzBenz list regarding cruise control amps, 
bake them in an oven for 5 minutes to fix dead solder connections, I was 
skeptical but someone on the list tried it on a dead amp and low and 
behold it worked. However apparently it gets a bit stinky sue to the 
coating on these.
Electrics have always been an Achilles heel of sorts for MB (and others 
I suppose) OVP relays, EZL units, climate control units, electronic 
control in 722.5/6 boxes,etc.
Now we have more complex systems than ever before and I don't think 
these things are that reliable.

The magic chicken ride system in the new S sounds scary complex.

Hendrik
who should buy a Diesel 123 and keep it forever

On 12/05/14 09:07, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This does not appear to be an airmatic problem per se, something is 
preventing it from working, another system, and I keep getting lead 
back to ignition switch, which seems wierd.  in order for it to be 
replaced, all sorts of coding has to be done with special workshop 
keys, a green key, a red key so on and so forth.



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Re: [MBZ] Slow GL day

2014-05-11 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

When I bought my first MB, an old mechanic said:
A Mercedes Benz is like a spoiled and beautiful woman.  Nearly any man 
can get one, but few can support one.

Gerry


On 5/11/2014 10:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Is the GL the new 140, great when working?
We have discussed the use of technology in cars before I believe but 
it's doomed. All these computers and systems are bound to fail 
eventually.
The Japanese seem to be better at making this stuff work but what is 
the lifespan of these electronics?

Especially in a vehicular environment.
Someone sent in a tip on the OzBenz list regarding cruise control 
amps, bake them in an oven for 5 minutes to fix dead solder 
connections, I was skeptical but someone on the list tried it on a 
dead amp and low and behold it worked. However apparently it gets a 
bit stinky sue to the coating on these.
Electrics have always been an Achilles heel of sorts for MB (and 
others I suppose) OVP relays, EZL units, climate control units, 
electronic control in 722.5/6 boxes,etc.
Now we have more complex systems than ever before and I don't think 
these things are that reliable.

The magic chicken ride system in the new S sounds scary complex.

Hendrik
who should buy a Diesel 123 and keep it forever

On 12/05/14 09:07, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This does not appear to be an airmatic problem per se, something is 
preventing it from working, another system, and I keep getting lead 
back to ignition switch, which seems wierd.  in order for it to be 
replaced, all sorts of coding has to be done with special workshop 
keys, a green key, a red key so on and so forth.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck differently

2014-05-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay

The only thing real wrong with that is that he pulled the boom up to quick.

That Liebherr is modified with bigger rams, boom and arm to climb up there.
May also have more powerful hydraulics.

Hendrik
who has not done that

On 12/05/14 03:42, Scott Ritchey wrote:

Maybe not so much.  Hydraulics amaze me.  Check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BJnjpdY6I



-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
Dillon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hendrick unloads his truck

Rather hard on the hydraulics?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Slow GL day

2014-05-11 Thread OK Don
Mercedes is one of the few makes that last long enough to find the lifespan
of the non-mechanical parts. Some thing is going to fail first - it's a
waiting game to find out what.


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is the GL the new 140, great when working?
 SNIP

 Electrics have always been an Achilles heel of sorts for MB (and others I
suppose) OVP relays, EZL units, climate control units, electronic control
in 722.5/6 boxes,etc.
Now we have more complex systems than ever before and I don't think these
things are that reliable.
The magic chicken ride system in the new S sounds scary complex.

Hendrik



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Re: [MBZ] Slow GL day

2014-05-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah but where not talking 20+ year old glow plug relays or cruise 
control stuff.

We are talking a car that is not long out of warranty.
As Kaleb said, replacing the mechanical bits is relatively easy when 
compared to chasing a fault in the software/hardware or wherever it may be.


Hendrik
who likes things simple

On 12/05/14 14:40, OK Don wrote:

Mercedes is one of the few makes that last long enough to find the lifespan
of the non-mechanical parts. Some thing is going to fail first - it's a
waiting game to find out what.





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