Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. I see some places in Euroland have charging stations, how does that work? Are they free or do drop a coin in them or swipe the credit card? A quick look shows that the leaf is rated at something like 99mpg under the rating system. I think in places where electricity is pretty cheap, they will become more popular as people overcome their fears and such. Also the tech should get better, such as being able to use a standard power cord to charge the beasty. Another question is whether auto makers can make 'traditional' cars more fuel efficient? What will the price of fuel be in ten years or even in a couple of years if those crazies in the middle east get crazier? There was work/trials being done to transfer electricity without wires, enabling EVs to recharge whilst stopped at traffic lights, not sure if that will pan out in the short term? Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes On 12/08/14 02:36, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
It would suit me fine if all construction were mandated to be 100% USA sourced - manpower and materials. Actually, Nuclear Constructions requires documentation on materials from cradle to grave - with varying degrees of completeness of documentation depending on the location of the materials. That tends to prevent the kind of materials hanky panky but of course, documents can always be counterfeited but we must depend quality control specialists to be watchdogs. There are lots of protections in the industry but they always depend on people Larry On 8/12/2014 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 12/08/2014 3:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I'd like to see nuclear construction get started again LarryT Yeah, with some cut price offshore contractors and maybe that cement from China that they used in that bridge on the west coast. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W124 Cooling Fan
Hi ya'll, Until I can spring for a new clutch, I was wondering if using JB Weld or similar to lock the clutch in place would improve the fans performance? I can't imagine the mpg change would be all that great actually I thought I had found one at the PnP but I discovered the fan blades were reversed on the one I brought home. I guess that 300SD (IIRC) runs in the opposite direction! I am always amazed at the choices designers make. Why have one engine run in one direction and another engine run in the opposite direction? Hmmm Thanks, LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Private industry?Surely you aren't saying government run industry doesn't need the same or even greater oversight? Sorry, but I am not very trusting of government organizations LarryT On 8/12/2014 7:24 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Exactly, and continuous critical oversight so long as private industry is owning and running the plants. Here's an example of what can happen when a power companies bottom line overrules all else: http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/energy/progress-energy-warned-itself-not-to-self-manage-crystal-river-nuclear/1205579 Gerry On 8/12/2014 6:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: No Randy, more like the French model, using a proven standardized design capable of efficiently and safely providing decades of power. If we also followed their example and re-processed our fuel rods, the radioactive waste left after 20 years of generating power for a family of four would fit in a coke can. Here's the best part: no CO2!!! Compared to coal, which not only releases tons of CO2 into the air, but also TONS of radioactive uranium and thorium, nuclear power is the only viable answer for those truly concerned about the environment. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 12, 2014 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 12/08/2014 3:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I'd like to see nuclear construction get started again LarryT Yeah, with some cut price offshore contractors and maybe that cement from China that they used in that bridge on the west coast. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Looking for JB Hebert ?
is JB Hebert still on the list? If so please send me a note I have a questions about the calipers I bought back in '07. Thanks! LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Chowdah Q
Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Clear chowder is preferable to me but difficult to find. Legal Seafoods used to serve it as a light clam chowder and it was very good. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. That was my first thought, my 2nd thought is that Curt wouldn't be able to make the round trip in a pure electric without it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:42 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clear chowder is preferable to me but difficult to find. Legal Seafoods used to serve it as a light clam chowder and it was very good. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Cooling Fan
LarryT via Mercedes wrote: actually I thought I had found one at the PnP but I discovered the fan blades were reversed on the one I brought home. I guess that 300SD (IIRC) runs in the opposite direction! I am always amazed at the choices designers make. Why have one engine run in one direction and another engine run in the opposite direction? Hmmm One engine, probably yours, runs the fan off the back of the belt, which makes it run the opposite direction from the engine. Commonplace with serpentine belts for low load pulleys like tensioners and water pumps. With v-belts, even the tensioner pulley usually runs on the inside surface of the belt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Well I'd be happy to make a batch of clear as well as the more traditional whot5e. On Aug 13, 2014 9:42 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Clear chowder is preferable to me but difficult to find. Legal Seafoods used to serve it as a light clam chowder and it was very good. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
McCormick Schmicks did the same thing. It’s part of the Landry chain now, and not even half as good as it was. On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:42 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clear chowder is preferable to me but difficult to find. Legal Seafoods used to serve it as a light clam chowder and it was very good. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Which adds to the costs and opens more doors to corruption. There is no perfect solution. If we do go nuclear, I think we need to go to thorium (?) rather than uranium. IIRC, it has always been a better solution, but didn't get developed because it can't be weaponized (unlike the habanero peppers from Africa that we are now growing). On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:07 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Actually, Nuclear Constructions requires documentation on materials from cradle to grave - with varying degrees of completeness of documentation depending on the location of the materials. That tends to prevent the kind of materials hanky panky but of course, documents can always be counterfeited but we must depend quality control specialists to be watchdogs. There are lots of protections in the industry but they always depend on people Larry -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Cooling Fan
Drill two holes all the way through the clutch and install a could of small machine screws? On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:18 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi ya'll, Until I can spring for a new clutch, I was wondering if using JB Weld or similar to lock the clutch in place would improve the fans performance? I can't imagine the mpg change would be all that great -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Speaking of energy storage, I just saw this - there might be a practical solution after all --- Dr Mitlin's team took these fibres and recycled them into supercapacitors - energy storage devices which are transforming the way electronics are powered. Hemp fibres 'better than graphene' http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28770876 -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Friend in Frisco Bay area bought a Leaf for his wife to drive to work. There were no charging stations in her work area but under county law, electric vehicles could drive in the inside bus lane which let her avoid the stop and go of morning and evening traffic, and she could make it to work and back home on one charge. A few months after he bought the Leaf, the county decided to bar electric cars from the inside lane and she had to drive in the right stop and go lanes. The second time she ran out of electric and had to be towed home by a wrecker they switched cars and now she drives their Prius and he drives the Leaf locally. The last time I asked, they were still waiting for her employer to install a charging station where his wife works. It might be long wait since she works for the cash strapped county. They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget-better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer . On 8/13/2014 3:00 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. I see some places in Euroland have charging stations, how does that work? Are they free or do drop a coin in them or swipe the credit card? A quick look shows that the leaf is rated at something like 99mpg under the rating system. I think in places where electricity is pretty cheap, they will become more popular as people overcome their fears and such. Also the tech should get better, such as being able to use a standard power cord to charge the beasty. Another question is whether auto makers can make 'traditional' cars more fuel efficient? What will the price of fuel be in ten years or even in a couple of years if those crazies in the middle east get crazier? There was work/trials being done to transfer electricity without wires, enabling EVs to recharge whilst stopped at traffic lights, not sure if that will pan out in the short term? Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes On 12/08/14 02:36, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic Friend in Frisco Bay area bought a Leaf for his wife to drive to work. There were no charging stations in her work area but under county law, electric vehicles could drive in the inside bus lane which let her avoid the stop and go of morning and evening traffic, and she could make it to work and back home on one charge. A few months after he bought the Leaf, the county decided to bar electric cars from the inside lane and she had to drive in the right stop and go lanes. The second time she ran out of electric and had to be towed home by a wrecker they switched cars and now she drives their Prius and he drives the Leaf locally. The last time I asked, they were still waiting for her employer to install a charging station where his wife works. It might be long wait since she works for the cash strapped county. They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget-better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer . On 8/13/2014 3:00 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. I see some places in Euroland have charging stations, how does that work? Are they free or do drop a coin in them or swipe the credit card? A quick look shows that the leaf is rated at something like 99mpg under the rating system. I think in places where electricity is pretty cheap, they will become more popular as people overcome their fears and such. Also the tech should get better, such as being able to use a standard power cord to charge the beasty. Another question is whether auto makers can make 'traditional' cars more fuel efficient? What will the price of fuel be in ten years or even in a couple of years if those crazies in the middle east get crazier? There was work/trials being done to transfer electricity without wires, enabling EVs to recharge whilst stopped at traffic lights, not sure if that will pan out in the short term? Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes On 12/08/14 02:36, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
I think its trading good press to my employer for being green for a little free electricity. Actually I'm willing to pay for the electricity anyway, we're only talking maybe $20/wk. The charging stations take a credit card, or at least the ones I've seen at gas stations and the airport do. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. That was my first thought, my 2nd thought is that Curt wouldn't be able to make the round trip in a pure electric without it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
I wondered what effect the AC would have, since that is pretty much mandatory down here 8-9 months of the year. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic Friend in Frisco Bay area bought a Leaf for his wife to drive to work. There were no charging stations in her work area but under county law, electric vehicles could drive in the inside bus lane which let her avoid the stop and go of morning and evening traffic, and she could make it to work and back home on one charge. A few months after he bought the Leaf, the county decided to bar electric cars from the inside lane and she had to drive in the right stop and go lanes. The second time she ran out of electric and had to be towed home by a wrecker they switched cars and now she drives their Prius and he drives the Leaf locally. The last time I asked, they were still waiting for ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget-better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer If it wasn't California, where lawn mower emissions seem to be considered a major crime, I'd say to put a receiver hitch on it, make a generator rack that fits in the hitch, and carry a gas engined generator in the trunk for when the need arises. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
OOPS! Here's the link about the self propelled diesel/battery trailer: http://www.plugincars.com/company-launches-electric-car-range-extending-diesel-powered-trailer-101953.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Really? I work right by there, we go a lot for work dinners. Its okay but nothing stunning. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Back when there was a dive place called the No Name that was down on the fish pier where the boats came in, tied up right outside the back door of the place. It was just a door in the building, no sign or anything, hence No Name. It was run by a bunch of crazy Greeks, usually a line out the door and down the pier. My mom and grandmother came to visit me once so I took them down there for lunch, was not too busy. You could bring your own beer and wine and such, but you had to watch they wouldn't take it and drink it. My grandmother asked if they had something or other that was on the menu, the waiter turns around and walks out the back door to where a boat was unloading and comes back with a fish and asked her if that one was OK. At that point she just sorta nodded, the waiter yells at one of the cooks in Greek, he turns around and the waiter tosses the fish to him, tells my grandmother it will be ready in a few minutes. She was pretty much catatonic at that point. So my mom and grandmother are sitting there eating, we ordered whatever, I had scallops I think. There were two people at the table next to us, they were ordering and one of them asked How are the scallops? The waiter grabs her fork, reaches over and stabs one off my plate, and gives it to her and says, Try it. My mom and grandmother just about died, and I was like, this is just how it is. The waiter dropped a little plate of something on the table after, saying Here eat this. I went down there with some girl once, took a big bottle of cheap wine, Gallo something that was in like a half gallon bottle. So we are sitting there, drinking wine waiting for our orders, the waiter walks over with a glass and pours one for himself, walks away. OK. Then he comes over a little while later with 2 glasses, refills his and fills another one and gives it to someone at another table. It was classic. When we left we gave him the rest of the bottle, the cooks were all over it like crazy. It was best to sit by the counter where the cooks were, you could sorta engage with them, most spoke only Greek, but they would give you small plates of stuff they were cooking. I went with a buddy once for lunch, it was closed, which was unusual. So we walked to the back on the water side of the pier where the boats were, and the door was open, a few people were in there so we went in and sat down. My buddy sorta knew the owner or manager or whatever as he had been going there a long time. He asked what was going on, the guy says Immigration had come that morning and rounded up all his kitchen guys to deport them. He said they would be back in a few days no matter what, so for now they just had the back door open and his cousin or something was doing the cooking. Legal was in an old ratty building in Inman Sq, the original caught fire and burned down. There was a newer one in Cambridge, when my wife was like 11months preggers with our daughter she was going crazy so on a Saturday night we went there for supper. I ordered the spicy calamari, which was awesome, we both had some. Next morning about 4:30 the baby announces herself, and off to the hospital we go. We always tell her it was Legal's spicy calamari that did it. That one and the one downtown were OK, all the others were just sorta franchise kind of places. --R On 8/13/14 2:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On 13/08/2014 2:00 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes But, then how would we manage to have oil threads? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On 8/13/2014 1:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget-better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer If it wasn't California, where lawn mower emissions seem to be considered a major crime, I'd say to put a receiver hitch on it, make a generator rack that fits in the hitch, and carry a gas engined generator in the trunk for when the need arises. Mitch. There is also a trailer with a diesel engine and additional batteries that powers itself along under the control of a computer and input from the hitch as well as other inputs: http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2010-11/pru-trailer-adds-storage-space-and-700-extra-miles-range-electric-cars ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
All this back and forth about energy. Wars fought and blood and treasure lost over energy. In the end, we run out of it, or poison ourselves out of existance. Then we revert back to camp fires, tribes, and subsistence survival, until we do it all over again in a few hundred generations. Why not throw away everything now and just go tribal. Eat your neighbors, until there are none, burn your worthless houses to heat yourself and cook, since they can't be heated or cooled with the decline of the grid and it's support. Well isn't that what is being suggested as the end result anyway? Why wait.. get in early.. go caveman. Grant... Who believes society discusses problems.. Individuals solve them. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:43 AM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which adds to the costs and opens more doors to corruption. There is no perfect solution. If we do go nuclear, I think we need to go to thorium (?) rather than uranium. IIRC, it has always been a better solution, but didn't get developed because it can't be weaponized (unlike the habanero peppers from Africa that we are now growing). On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:07 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Actually, Nuclear Constructions requires documentation on materials from cradle to grave - with varying degrees of completeness of documentation depending on the location of the materials. That tends to prevent the kind of materials hanky panky but of course, documents can always be counterfeited but we must depend quality control specialists to be watchdogs. There are lots of protections in the industry but they always depend on people Larry -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Meh. It just wasn't the same as the original, and I don't think the food was as good, either. Like a seafood Applebee's or Bennigans. My customer was in Woburn and my sister in-law lived in Peabody. Used to stay at that Days Inn right along I-93(?) in Woburn, and occasionally at the Hilton golf resort right along 128 in Wakefield. Kraft Power was my customer in Woburn, and Power Products in Wakefield. I love that area. I used to take travel days and just wander around to all the Revolutionary War and other historic sites in the area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? I work right by there, we go a lot for work dinners. Its okay but nothing stunning. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
NO Name is a don't miss for best seafood in boston. Fresh, down home. But not as interesting as you describe. On Aug 13, 2014 2:55 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when there was a dive place called the No Name that was down on the fish pier where the boats came in, tied up right outside the back door of the place. It was just a door in the building, no sign or anything, hence No Name. It was run by a bunch of crazy Greeks, usually a line out the door and down the pier. My mom and grandmother came to visit me once so I took them down there for lunch, was not too busy. You could bring your own beer and wine and such, but you had to watch they wouldn't take it and drink it. My grandmother asked if they had something or other that was on the menu, the waiter turns around and walks out the back door to where a boat was unloading and comes back with a fish and asked her if that one was OK. At that point she just sorta nodded, the waiter yells at one of the cooks in Greek, he turns around and the waiter tosses the fish to him, tells my grandmother it will be ready in a few minutes. She was pretty much catatonic at that point. So my mom and grandmother are sitting there eating, we ordered whatever, I had scallops I think. There were two people at the table next to us, they were ordering and one of them asked How are the scallops? The waiter grabs her fork, reaches over and stabs one off my plate, and gives it to her and says, Try it. My mom and grandmother just about died, and I was like, this is just how it is. The waiter dropped a little plate of something on the table after, saying Here eat this. I went down there with some girl once, took a big bottle of cheap wine, Gallo something that was in like a half gallon bottle. So we are sitting there, drinking wine waiting for our orders, the waiter walks over with a glass and pours one for himself, walks away. OK. Then he comes over a little while later with 2 glasses, refills his and fills another one and gives it to someone at another table. It was classic. When we left we gave him the rest of the bottle, the cooks were all over it like crazy. It was best to sit by the counter where the cooks were, you could sorta engage with them, most spoke only Greek, but they would give you small plates of stuff they were cooking. I went with a buddy once for lunch, it was closed, which was unusual. So we walked to the back on the water side of the pier where the boats were, and the door was open, a few people were in there so we went in and sat down. My buddy sorta knew the owner or manager or whatever as he had been going there a long time. He asked what was going on, the guy says Immigration had come that morning and rounded up all his kitchen guys to deport them. He said they would be back in a few days no matter what, so for now they just had the back door open and his cousin or something was doing the cooking. Legal was in an old ratty building in Inman Sq, the original caught fire and burned down. There was a newer one in Cambridge, when my wife was like 11months preggers with our daughter she was going crazy so on a Saturday night we went there for supper. I ordered the spicy calamari, which was awesome, we both had some. Next morning about 4:30 the baby announces herself, and off to the hospital we go. We always tell her it was Legal's spicy calamari that did it. That one and the one downtown were OK, all the others were just sorta franchise kind of places. --R On 8/13/14 2:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@ constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
If you coast downhill in an EV does that recharge the battery? On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 8/13/2014 1:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget- better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer If it wasn't California, where lawn mower emissions seem to be considered a major crime, I'd say to put a receiver hitch on it, make a generator rack that fits in the hitch, and carry a gas engined generator in the trunk for when the need arises. Mitch. There is also a trailer with a diesel engine and additional batteries that powers itself along under the control of a computer and input from the hitch as well as other inputs: http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2010-11/pru-trailer- adds-storage-space-and-700-extra-miles-range-electric-cars ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
My immigrant (German) father made Manhattan style clam chowder from scratch several times a year, using bacon, potatoes, celery (IIRC), tomatoes, green pepper, bay leaf, and large quohog (quahog?) clams plus maybe a few other items. It was totally awesome, and got better each succeeding day. That was his piece de resistance, although he did have one or two other signature dishes, one of which was a sour cream based dip for stalks of celery. Though having a limited repertoire, he was a maesto in the kitchen and in real life as well... On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Meh. It just wasn't the same as the original, and I don't think the food was as good, either. Like a seafood Applebee's or Bennigans. My customer was in Woburn and my sister in-law lived in Peabody. Used to stay at that Days Inn right along I-93(?) in Woburn, and occasionally at the Hilton golf resort right along 128 in Wakefield. Kraft Power was my customer in Woburn, and Power Products in Wakefield. I love that area. I used to take travel days and just wander around to all the Revolutionary War and other historic sites in the area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? I work right by there, we go a lot for work dinners. Its okay but nothing stunning. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q Sounds about right. I loved going to Legal's whenever I went to Boston on business. Later on, I noticed they had a place in Burlington Mall. I made the mistake of going there. That was the end of my patronage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall going to the original in a second floor walkup in a ratty building in a ratty area of Cambridge, which was a good part of Cambridge. --R On 8/13/14 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: M, Legal Seafood. Before they sold out and started setting up shop in the local malls, that is. Yum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter
Dan, Thanks! A casual review indicates this doesn't cover my car (124.131) but I'll bet that fault-codes are the same for other 124 cars of the same era with same systems (eg. ASD). -Max On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Max, Attached is a PDF that coves all of the different diagnostic connectors and their pinouts. This should be helpful in identifying things. Dan On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks Craig, Fuse holder, pack of five fuses, two banana plugs, pack of four SPST momentary switches (only single packs were too large), LED with built-in resistor: it all adds up quickly... PBU Ground: thanks for addressing that, I was worried that a bad ground might be contributing to some strange behavior. Last week the blower stopped and started on its own several times, and I'm still concerned that the AC compressor is cutting out when it shouldn't. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 11, 2014 6:23 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:04:51 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the ACC II in my '95 E300. Good job, it looks like a useful tool. No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would glow dimly when it was supposed to be off. I'm wondering if the PBU ground is weak/corroded? No, the LED glowing dimly indicates some leakage in the PBU from the point where J2 is connected to ground. Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio shack part numbers. I substituted almost all, including a combination LED / resistor set up for 12 vdc. Probably about $20 in parts plus an empty pill container. The container fits in you hand nicely so the button can be operated with your thumb. $20! What in the world cost that much?! I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would have worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this. You could have used a wire-leaded LED and put it inside the pill bottle. The only things that need to be outside the bottle are the button of the pushbutton switch and the wire leads. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Cooling Fan
Right you are -- the fan is driven by the backside of the belt. Thanks for the explanation -- Larry On 8/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: LarryT via Mercedes wrote: actually I thought I had found one at the PnP but I discovered the fan blades were reversed on the one I brought home. I guess that 300SD (IIRC) runs in the opposite direction! I am always amazed at the choices designers make. Why have one engine run in one direction and another engine run in the opposite direction? Hmmm One engine, probably yours, runs the fan off the back of the belt, which makes it run the opposite direction from the engine. Commonplace with serpentine belts for low load pulleys like tensioners and water pumps. With v-belts, even the tensioner pulley usually runs on the inside surface of the belt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Did he say that Manhattan chowder was a German dish? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Cooling Fan
Thanks Don, I'm not sure the there's a place for any bolts/screws - it's like a bearing inside the center of the fan - I'm not positive JB Weld would work either - I haven't used it much. I think I need to be sure not to interfere with the balance of the fan. But I'll look at the extra fan I picked up to see if I can find a way to secure it. Thanks again, LarryT 91 300D On 8/13/2014 11:46 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Drill two holes all the way through the clutch and install a could of small machine screws? On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:18 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi ya'll, Until I can spring for a new clutch, I was wondering if using JB Weld or similar to lock the clutch in place would improve the fans performance? I can't imagine the mpg change would be all that great ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry On 8/13/2014 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic Friend in Frisco Bay area bought a Leaf for his wife to drive to work. There were no charging stations in her work area but under county law, electric vehicles could drive in the inside bus lane which let her avoid the stop and go of morning and evening traffic, and she could make it to work and back home on one charge. A few months after he bought the Leaf, the county decided to bar electric cars from the inside lane and she had to drive in the right stop and go lanes. The second time she ran out of electric and had to be towed home by a wrecker they switched cars and now she drives their Prius and he drives the Leaf locally. The last time I asked, they were still waiting for her employer to install a charging station where his wife works. It might be long wait since she works for the cash strapped county. They thought about buying a battery trailer that is towed behind and extends the Leafs range, but the numbers didn't add up. Here's a European battery trailer: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079294_forget-better-place-hook-your-electric-car-to-a-battery-trailer . On 8/13/2014 3:00 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. I see some places in Euroland have charging stations, how does that work? Are they free or do drop a coin in them or swipe the credit card? A quick look shows that the leaf is rated at something like 99mpg under the rating system. I think in places where electricity is pretty cheap, they will become more popular as people overcome their fears and such. Also the tech should get better, such as being able to use a standard power cord to charge the beasty. Another question is whether auto makers can make 'traditional' cars more fuel efficient? What will the price of fuel be in ten years or even in a couple of years if those crazies in the middle east get crazier? There was work/trials being done to transfer electricity without wires, enabling EVs to recharge whilst stopped at traffic lights, not sure if that will pan out in the short term? Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes On 12/08/14 02:36, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry If heat/AC is a factor, longer trip times = more kwh wasted on creature comforts. If she knows how to drive EV, stopgo should have less effect than on a gasser, but unless her motor-generator and battery are 100% efficient, it will still cost her something. If she's one to hit the brakes when traffic slows instead of planning ahead to let the car regenerate, then stopgo will kill her range. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
I think it sold out or moved or something a long time ago, this was back when it was just a dive, you did not want to examine stuff too closely, but the fish was fresh off the boats that tied up right there, and the atmosphere was priceless. --R On 8/13/14 3:16 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: NO Name is a don't miss for best seafood in boston. Fresh, down home. But not as interesting as you describe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
I worked in the office park right behind there, and used to go to the workout club that was sorta part of the whole complex. I lived in the next town down, Melrose, from Wakefield. In Wakefield center was a great Greek deli/cafeteria called Brothers, I'd eat there a coupla times a week. After I moved away I was back visiting for a few days and went there for lunch, it was like I was a long-lost brother or something. I had no idea, they never really paid any attention to me or anyone else. It was my understanding that the Hilton bar was a source of action in the evenings if you were so inclined. --R On 8/13/14 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: occasionally at the Hilton golf resort right along 128 in Wakefield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Larry, The U.S. Navy has run nuclear reactors on submarines and other warships for decades, accident free. Not easy to translate that success to a civilian agency, and certainly not nearly as cost-efficient as private industry. My point is that nuclear power can be done safely and provide clean electrical power at very competitive costs, but in our country the debate has been completely subverted by hysterics and fear-mongers. Even at Fukishima, the second most serious nuclear accident to date, there were zero deaths from radiation. A hand-full of workers received very high radiation doses, and another hundred or so are at increased risk for cancer. Two or three died from physical trauma from the tsunami, not from radiation. The tsunami which caused that accident is a once-in-a-thousand years event (and the tsunami itself killed over 10,000 people). The Fukishima site had been identified as requiring additional tsunami counter-measures, but the regulatory agency and the site operator had not decided to implement those counter-measures when the tsunami struck. In other words, keeping a little perspective, the natural disaster caused over 10,000 deaths, and it also made a mess of the nuclear reactors. The nuclear reactors will take time and lots of money to clean up, but those 10,000+ dead can never be brought back. The article that Gerry linked to the Tampa issue, again no one has died, just a big mess to clean up at great expense. Clearly the decision-makers and CEO of that plant need to all be fired, and I think the investors need to pay for the repairs, but again let's keep some perspective: No one has died from radiation. Fear-mongering about nuclear power by the enviro-wackos will only cause MORE people to die early from inhaling the radioactive particles spewed into the air by our coal power-plants. -Max On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:22 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Private industry?Surely you aren't saying government run industry doesn't need the same or even greater oversight? Sorry, but I am not very trusting of government organizations LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
I thought that the braking action regerated the batteries. WTF? On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry If heat/AC is a factor, longer trip times = more kwh wasted on creature comforts. If she knows how to drive EV, stopgo should have less effect than on a gasser, but unless her motor-generator and battery are 100% efficient, it will still cost her something. If she's one to hit the brakes when traffic slows instead of planning ahead to let the car regenerate, then stopgo will kill her range. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
We have two parallel discussions going on here, one focused on sleazy parts of Cambridge/Boston and the other on Manhattan, where I grew up. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I worked in the office park right behind there, and used to go to the workout club that was sorta part of the whole complex. I lived in the next town down, Melrose, from Wakefield. In Wakefield center was a great Greek deli/cafeteria called Brothers, I'd eat there a coupla times a week. After I moved away I was back visiting for a few days and went there for lunch, it was like I was a long-lost brother or something. I had no idea, they never really paid any attention to me or anyone else. It was my understanding that the Hilton bar was a source of action in the evenings if you were so inclined. --R On 8/13/14 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: occasionally at the Hilton golf resort right along 128 in Wakefield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
I have a set of front disks from Q that never made it onto my 72 220D. Pads as well. These items were not transferable to the R107, so Sexy Parts God, Garry got me the proper stuff for my SL. Gary will be able to provide the parts for a great price if what I have are not correct clay On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:47 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: Gang My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early car (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and early 115 cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger calipers which interchange to R107/W123/W126. Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit the new rotors and calipers? EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it seems to indicate that a bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the original configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. I'm not hell bent on having vented discs, but it is getting tough (and expensive) to find calipers and even discs for the older config. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
The mob used to provide a lower grade concrete product when they ran the industry. clay On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:07 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: It would suit me fine if all construction were mandated to be 100% USA sourced - manpower and materials. Actually, Nuclear Constructions requires documentation on materials from cradle to grave - with varying degrees of completeness of documentation depending on the location of the materials. That tends to prevent the kind of materials hanky panky but of course, documents can always be counterfeited but we must depend quality control specialists to be watchdogs. There are lots of protections in the industry but they always depend on people Larry On 8/12/2014 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 12/08/2014 3:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I'd like to see nuclear construction get started again LarryT Yeah, with some cut price offshore contractors and maybe that cement from China that they used in that bridge on the west coast. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
No Name is still around -at least as of a couple of years ago. I know the owners and many of the waitstaff for at least 23 years. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think it sold out or moved or something a long time ago, this was back when it was just a dive, you did not want to examine stuff too closely, but the fish was fresh off the boats that tied up right there, and the atmosphere was priceless. --R On 8/13/14 3:16 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: NO Name is a don't miss for best seafood in boston. Fresh, down home. But not as interesting as you describe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I thought that the braking action regerated the batteries. WTF? There are friction brakes too. AFAIK, a Prius has an adjustment for how hard you want it to slow down when you lift off the go pedal. Hit the stop pedal and you engage the friction brakes. I believe a Tesla regenerates when you hit the stop pedal and engages the brakes when you push the stop pedal further. Not sure about a Leaf, but any EV or hybrid will have a limit to 'engine braking' and if you decelerate harder than that you're using the service brakes to turn kinetic energy into heat. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
See Big Dig in Boston! --R On 8/13/14 4:54 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: The mob used to provide a lower grade concrete product when they ran the industry. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
I've heated my house without the grid before. In the fall I go out in the morning and pick up a bundle of sticks to make a fire. It cleans up the forest, gets me a little exercise and heats the house for no money. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Yes. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 280SL: Turbo Diesel in NA Six Out
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/350221-not-another-diesel-107-a.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 13/08/2014 5:04 PM, curtludwig--- via Mercedes wrote: I've heated my house without the grid before. In the fall I go out in the morning and pick up a bundle of sticks to make a fire. It cleans up the forest, gets me a little exercise and heats the house for no money. Curt Well, depending on just how cold it is and how deep the snow is, it takes a bit of planning to heat with wood. It takes a fair amount of effort to do it well and there are those who would say that wood smoke is a pollutant too. My parents heated with wood for many years. I cannot say, in retrospect, that they did it well but they did it. The house should have been better insulated and the stove should have been more centralized. It should also have been a better stove. Some sort of Rumford (???) type thing with lots of masonry to soak up the heat might have been a good idea. The wood should have been better prepared so it was drier and it they should have had a shed of some sort to store it in. It can be done but it is a whole lot easier and cleaner to use a natural gas furnace if you live where the gas is available. Wood is not cheap either if you buy it. My mother was still using wood after my father passed away and she would buy a semi trailer load of birch in 8 foot lengths. She and an old fellow who was willing to help her out would cut it into stove lengths and then put it through the splitter and pile it. I think she was paying over $700 for a trailer load more than 20 years ago. If you haul in your own wood, then you need time and equipment to do it and you either need acreage or you need to be able to buy it or you need friends with acreage who are willing to have you remove trees etc. My father had a sawmill and logged pretty much every winter so he just cut some firewood as well, but mostly he did it as we needed it so it was not usually very dry. We also had slabs from the mill but they tended to burn too fast. In order to have a fire last over night one needs the right type and size of wood for the stove. At one point they were using a stove my father made out of a 45 gallon drum. We still have the big hydraulic wood splitter that he built. It is not really a thing of beauty but it sure will split wood. I can remember a lot of wood being split with an axe however. And it pretty will all got cut with a chain saw so again, a lot of work. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] It's a fast car
Mercedes benz http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4608140781.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
I bought wood twice, once right when we moved in and once when I got a real good deal on green wood mid-winter. Mostly I get stuff for free here and there. Got a pickup load 2 weeks ago of good dry maple. Needs splitting but that relaxes my shoulders. The neighbor has a couple spruces I should get out and cut. Mix it in with the maple and it'll be fine, especially if its good and dry. I have a Jotul 118 which is a good heavy cast iron stove with secondary combustion air, very little smoke out of the stack if the wood is dry. Our house is only 1000sq/ft, the stove sits in the basement and heats most of the house pretty well. The bedroom is farthest away from the stove so stays pretty cool which is mostly what you'd want anyway. Yeah its a lot of work but I think much of the loss of our society is due to things being too easy and people not building enough character through hard work. I play with white gas stoves and lanterns too remember, propane is certainly easier but it has no soul. As I think of it turning on the radio is also easy but playing an instrument is way more fulfilling. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: curtlud...@yahoo.com curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege It can be done but it is a whole lot easier and cleaner to use a natural gas furnace if you live where the gas is available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] It's a fast car
Yes so fast there are bug spots on back window. On Aug 13, 2014 7:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mercedes benz http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4608140781.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:05:20 -0700 curtludwig--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. Yes, what? Sent from Sylpheed Mail on Linux ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf stop go really eats into the range, probably to do with using climate control and the physics of getting a stationary object moving. Not sure if the trailer idea would be suitable for everyone, some people are not comfortable towing a trailer, however the concept is good insofar that if you build a proper camping trailer with fridge and 240v power and hook it up to a EV 4x4. Yes the lack of oil threads will be a problem but would they not still use grease in some bearings, M1 grease? Perhaps we'll have to have battery threads? Hendrik who is controlled with electricity On 14/08/14 05:00, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry On 8/13/2014 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Yes to everything, no is a negative word that should be banned, ooopps starting to soound like mao. Seriously though, could be this iffy thing where the reply to goes to the original author and the list, I try to delete the author addy when I remember. Hendrik who sometimes forgets...ahhhm..you know...ahh forget it On 14/08/14 09:46, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:05:20 -0700 curtludwig--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. Yes, what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 280SL: Turbo Diesel in NA Six Out
Hmmm - glad I didn't go ahead and try this with the OM603 into the SLC. I do like how he solved the driveshaft issue, but I don't think the OKC driveshaft company would have come to my place to measure and then build one. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/350221-not-another-diesel-107-a-5.html On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/ 350221-not-another-diesel-107-a.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Yes EVs do recharge when coasting. Its called regenerative braking. Both the Leaf and Prius have braking settings where the car is more aggressive about slowing down when you get off the accelerator. -Curt From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: curtlud...@yahoo.com curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:05:20 -0700 curtludwig--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. Yes, what? Sent from Sylpheed Mail on Linux ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:13:43 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes EVs do recharge when coasting. Its called regenerative braking. Both the Leaf and Prius have braking settings where the car is more aggressive about slowing down when you get off the accelerator. Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Review for the 3.5
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mercedes-benz-280se-35-road-test-review Typical yanks, if it ain't 832 cubic inches and getting half a mile to the gallon, we ain't interested. Hendrik who don't have a 3.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] If it is too good too be true.........
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mercedes-Benz-1958-190SL-/291216881796?pt=AU_Carshash=item43cde0f884_uhb=1 Smells fishy to me and those photos ain't from around here. Hendrik who should ring up and book a test drive ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5
Being the owner of a now defunct 280 SE 4.5L and never having had the pleasure of driving one in new condition, I find the review pretty snarky, especially the looking down the nose at comments on replacing the overhead cams with pushrods. The American competitors for a Benz in those days had 450 to 460 cubic inch pushrod engines and got 8 miles per gallon -- my neighbors had an Olds 98. Got six mpg if you got heavy with the foot. Driven lightly and set for milage rather than performace (the lean end of the spec) the Benz will get 14 every day, 17 on the highway. I know, I did. The 3.5L is 214 cu in. The 4.5L is 276 cu in, far smaller than even a Chevy 350, and has similar hp output when you measure it at the transmission output shaft (hp rating from the US in those days were grossly exaggerated). 232 hp in a 3200 lb car (not two tons, but the way) is plenty. The Benz turns out 1.3 hp/cu in, the American iron struggles to generate 0.7, and the 3.5L M117 turns 6200 rpm. A Caddy will toss a rod if you try to go over 4500 rpm. The fluid coupling and 4-speed tranny was a problem, and my 4.5L has the three speed with torque converter, a better combination, and while it might not beat a Caddy coupe off the line, it will spank it at 70. Germans require passing power, and that Benz has it in spades. It's difficult to maintain speed on the interstate, it always wants to run, and normal country driving is a problem, mine always wanted to go 60 mph at light throttle. The handling comments are just silly, a Caddy of that vintage (or Lincoln) had enough understeer for three cars and plowed like a wounded whale. You do get some roll oversteer out of the Benz, but nothing like what you get once one of those land yachts gets into a turn and lifts the inside rear tire off the road as the door handles dig into the asphalt. Butt backwards into the ditch, I've seen it time and again. The swing axle rear end can also jack on you in hard cornering, but it's predictable and controllable. The Benz will simply outdrive any American car of that vintage, except maybe a Super B or a Shelby, but neither of those are luxury sedans. And they miss the main point, as far as I'm concerned. If you have your seat belts on, you can walk away from a very severe accident in that Benz. You wouldn't in a contemporary American luxury car, they were tin cans. We will politely overlook the fact that the American sedans would usually be junk by 100,000 miles while the Benz would look and run like new, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Andrew wrote: If you coast downhill in an EV does that recharge the battery? Coasting? No. Braking - yes, at some level. Those of us who are familiar with driving an internal combustion engine are familiar with engine braking caused by the restriction of air passing through the engine. This level of braking is almost always regenerated in an electric. It's possible to get almost the same amount of negative acceleration as positive acceleration in an electric vehicle, so on some the service brake (activated with the pedal) will regenerate up to that point. On almost all vehicles, the brake system is more capable than the thrust system so all modern electric vehicles that I know of also have friction brakes when more braking power is needed than can be developed by the regeneration process. The friction brakes just turn motion into heat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
