Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
Or the official MB tool(s). I bought the one which can push out those joints when the threaded portion sticks down below the car, it is very nice to use. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 4, 2014 11:36 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need an air hammer for those. Will pop out right quick. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: t. Had to use a pickle fork on the outers on both sides. Ouch. Not easy swinging a hammer under the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
What did you use to leak seal the AC system? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 4, 2014 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Set out to get the S500 AC resolved today, among some other items. This is what I got done today: Evacuated, charged and leak sealed the AC system. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
It took me a good 10 minutes to find mine. It's been so long since i used it I couldn't remember where I out it. Turned out I have a complete kit of several different sized forks, handles, etc. One of those is a handle or mandrel for use with an air hammer. If I only had an air hammer It's like my impact - if I use it once a year, that's a lot. Dan On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need an air hammer for those. Will pop out right quick. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: t. Had to use a pickle fork on the outers on both sides. Ouch. Not easy swinging a hammer under the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
This stuff: http://www.cliplight.com/hvacr/chemical-tools/super-seal-automotive/super-seal-premium/ I talked to someone who used it for an evaporator leak in their S320, and at his urging I called and spoke to one of their engineers for about 20 minutes. I also asked my former neighbor who is a commercial AC guy about them, as their big market is in commercial HVAC systems, and he said they were well thought of and their products were well known and did what they said. Dan On Oct 5, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What did you use to leak seal the AC system? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 4, 2014 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Set out to get the S500 AC resolved today, among some other items. This is what I got done today: Evacuated, charged and leak sealed the AC system. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
Dang. Just looked at Harbor Freight. $13.99 for an air hammer/chisel. Might have to stop in today and buy one. Dan On Oct 5, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It took me a good 10 minutes to find mine. It's been so long since i used it I couldn't remember where I out it. Turned out I have a complete kit of several different sized forks, handles, etc. One of those is a handle or mandrel for use with an air hammer. If I only had an air hammer It's like my impact - if I use it once a year, that's a lot. Dan On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need an air hammer for those. Will pop out right quick. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: t. Had to use a pickle fork on the outers on both sides. Ouch. Not easy swinging a hammer under the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] First New resident of Okie Acres
Go for it, Kleb! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2163233-sale-1981-grey-market-280sl.html#post10264345 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Someone in IL needs this 116
Original Message From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:57 PM To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone in IL needs this 116 Obviously there are other diffrerences, but MB names the car line by the original engine size (4.5L = 450, etc) as a rule, then later modifications will get a badge on the right side. Thank you. That was the information I was looking for. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
Thanks, and I hope it works well for you. I just may be tempted to try that in my '95 E300. Going to save this info for later... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 5, 2014 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This stuff: http://www.cliplight.com/hvacr/chemical-tools/super-seal-automotive/super-seal-premium/ I talked to someone who used it for an evaporator leak in their S320, and at his urging I called and spoke to one of their engineers for about 20 minutes. I also asked my former neighbor who is a commercial AC guy about them, as their big market is in commercial HVAC systems, and he said they were well thought of and their products were well known and did what they said. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First New resident of Okie Acres
That looks mighty tempting! Too bad it doesn't have a manual transmission and euro headlights. I love the AC needs belt description. Sure, you betcha! Belt just fell off, nobody needs AC in Dallas, all the new owner needs to do is put a belt on it and that AC will be blowing ice cold Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
It really helped to talk to one of their engineers, as he explained the whole process as well as some caveats for determining whether or not the system was a candidate for success (it was.) The guy I know who used this previously did his over four years ago and hasn't had to top off the system since then (and he lives here in Florida, too.) The engineer also suggested that I could use another product in the same line, their Platinum sealer, which is the same as the stuff I used but has a drying agent in it. Since I replaced the receiver/dryer it wasn't necessary, plus I couldn't find a source for it, either. The can of sealer cost me about $40. Let me know if you have any questions. Dan On Oct 5, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, and I hope it works well for you. I just may be tempted to try that in my '95 E300. Going to save this info for later... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 5, 2014 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This stuff: http://www.cliplight.com/hvacr/chemical-tools/super-seal-automotive/super-seal-premium/ I talked to someone who used it for an evaporator leak in their S320, and at his urging I called and spoke to one of their engineers for about 20 minutes. I also asked my former neighbor who is a commercial AC guy about them, as their big market is in commercial HVAC systems, and he said they were well thought of and their products were well known and did what they said. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PayPal Users, Be Aware!
They have really screwed up a good thing Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some major changes to their Terms of Service (TOS) taking place November 18: We’re increasing the time for buyers to file a merchandise dispute (Item Not Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180 days. And: If a buyer files a Significantly Not as Described (SNAD) Claim for an item they purchased from you, you will generally be required to accept the item back and refund the buyer the full purchase price plus original shipping costs. You will not receive a refund of your PayPal fees. Further, if you lose a SNAD Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably believe the item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a full refund to the buyer and you will not receive the item back (it will be destroyed). PayPal Seller protection will not cover your liability. In other words, if you're a seller, you're screwed. Someone could literally buy a product from you, and 5-1/2 months later say it doesn't perform as stated and get a refund. The SNAD terms are even worse. I'm killing my PP account before these go into service, or I'm not going to use it for places where I might sell something. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PayPal Users, Be Aware!
sellers gotta sell buyers don't gotta buy. buyers drive paypal. paypal will always side with buyers over sellers On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They have really screwed up a good thing Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some major changes to their Terms of Service (TOS) taking place November 18: We’re increasing the time for buyers to file a merchandise dispute (Item Not Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180 days. And: If a buyer files a Significantly Not as Described (SNAD) Claim for an item they purchased from you, you will generally be required to accept the item back and refund the buyer the full purchase price plus original shipping costs. You will not receive a refund of your PayPal fees. Further, if you lose a SNAD Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably believe the item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a full refund to the buyer and you will not receive the item back (it will be destroyed). PayPal Seller protection will not cover your liability. In other words, if you're a seller, you're screwed. Someone could literally buy a product from you, and 5-1/2 months later say it doesn't perform as stated and get a refund. The SNAD terms are even worse. I'm killing my PP account before these go into service, or I'm not going to use it for places where I might sell something. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
when reading their website for the sealing products they sound pretty safe with no propane, butane or any accelerators.They seem pretty compatible - what kind of push-back would a AC shop have? Their website says: / Permanently seals prevents leaks / Seals leaks in evaporators, condensers, accumulators, O-rings, gaskets, metal lines, rubber hoses / Compatible with all oils refrigerants /3 volume of Super Seal Premium^(TM) / Economical method to permanently seal leaks / Compatible with all oils refrigerants and: with DRY R^(TM) to eliminate moisture, is a faster and compressor-friendly method of permanently sealing and preventing leaks in A/C and refrigeration systems. DRY R^(TM) boosts sealant performance, increases drier efficiency, while preventing acid and waxing formation. is engineered to HVACR industry standards and is easily installed into a fully-charged system, with NO pump down or recovery. Recommended for systems that are not losing more than 15% of the entire charge over a four-week period. If my evaporator had been leaking that slowly I would have tried it - especially with Dan P's comments... LarryT On 10/5/2014 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I know. I'll take that risk. On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you need anyone to hook their ac machine up to it in the future they most likely won't Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
My first MB was a 123 240D slush. It helped that I had ridden many of the same local roads on my bicycle chanted the mantra, gravity is your friend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] FWIW
.. Now, in what might be the largest scientific fraud ever uncovered, NASA and the NOAA have been caught red-handed altering historical temperature data to produce a climate change narrative that defies reality. This finding, originally documented on the Real Science website, is detailed here. We now know that historical temperature data for the continental United States were deliberately altered by NASA and NOAA scientists in a politically-motivated attempt to rewrite history and claim global warming is causing U.S. temperatures to trend upward. The data actually show that we are in a cooling trend, not a warming trend (see charts below). This story is starting to break worldwide right now across the media, with The Telegraph now reporting (1), NOAA's US Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) has been 'adjusting' its record by replacing real temperatures with data 'fabricated' by computer models. Because the actual historical temperature record doesn't fit the frenzied, doomsday narrative of global warming being fronted today on the political stage, the data were simply altered using computer models and then published as fact. Here's the proof of the climate change fraud Here's the chart of U.S. temperatures published by NASA in 1999. It shows the highest temperatures actually occurred in the 1930's, followed by a cooling trend ramping downward to the year 2000: The authenticity of this chart is not in question. It is published by James Hansen on NASA's website. (2) On that page, Hansen even wrote, Empirical evidence does not lend much support to the notion that climate is headed precipitately toward more extreme heat and drought. After the Obama administration took office, however, and started pushing the global warming narrative for political purposes, NASA was directed to alter its historical data in order to reverse the cooling trend and show a warming trend instead. This was accomplished using climate-modeling computers that simply fabricated the data the researchers wished to see instead of what was actually happening in the real world. Using the exact same data found in the chart shown above (with a few years of additional data after 2000), NASA managed to misleadingly distort the chart to depict the appearance of global warming: The authenticity of this chart is also not in question. It can be found right now on NASA's servers. (4) This new, altered chart shows that historical data -- especially the severe heat and droughts experienced in the 1930's -- are now systematically suppressed to make them appear cooler than they really were. At the same time, temperature data from the 1970's to 2010 are strongly exaggerated to make them appear warmer than they really were. This is a clear case of scientific fraud being carried out on a grand scale in order to deceive the entire world about global warming. EPA data also confirm the global warming hoax What's even more interesting is that even the EPA's Heat Wave Index data further support the notion that the U.S. was far hotter in the 1930's than it is today. The following chart, published on the EPA.gov website (4), clearly shows modern-day heat waves are far smaller and less severe than those of the 1930's. In fact, the seemingly extreme heat waves of the last few years were no worse than those of the early 1900's or 1950's. Short-sighted agricultural practices cause more global warming than CO2 Seeing these charts, you might wonder how the extremely high temperatures of the 1930's came about. Were we releasing too much CO2 by burning fossil fuels? Nope. That entire episode of massive warming and drought was caused by conventional agricultural practices that clear-cut forests, poisoned the soils with chemicals and plowed the top soil away. Lacking trees to retain moisture, areas that were once thriving plains, grasslands and forests turned to desert. Suddenly, the cooling effects of moisture transpiration from healthy plant ecosystems was lost, causing extreme temperatures and deadly drought. Shortsighted agricultural practices, in other words, really did cause warming, while a restoration of a more natural ecosystem reversed the trend and cooled the region. Reforestation is the answer This brings us to the simple, obvious solution to all this. If you want to cool the planet, focus on reforestation efforts. If you want to retain moisture and keep your soils alive, you need diverse plant-based ecosystems, not clear-cut fields running monoculture operations. Forests act like sponges that soak up rainwater, and then they turn around and slowly release that water back into the air, moisturizing the atmosphere and keeping humidity levels high enough to support other nearby grasses, shrubs and plants. When you clear-cut forests -- as has been done all across the world to make room for mechanized agriculture -- you effectively raise temperatures
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. Quite a bit of data is missing, has obvious errors, or cannot be explained by known weather phenomena, and the data from the US is vastly better than most of the rest of the planet. In order to model and interpret, it can be necessary to correct known errors (a thermometer that read high or low all the time, for instance,and was known to by comparison) and to correct for errors when someone reported a temperature greatly different than surrounding ones with no explaination, etc. Data can be full of errors, after all. All the data from before the advent of weather satellites is from written records, often by amateurs or farmers who may or may not (probably mostly not) have had certified thermometers known to read accurately, and there has never been a real climate data system designed to collect the pertinent data, and even if there were one now, it certainly did not exist prior to the 1970s. The last major heat wave we had was quite similar here to the 1930s -- my mother lived through it. Just a couple degrees and a couple days short of the record set then. Climate scientists are well aware of the need to interpolate missing data, corrections necessary due to what are very obviously reporting errors, and so forth, and that information is included in their research papers if you bother to read them and understand them. Some layman nut writing under an assumed name shouldn't get the time of day, let alone credibility. I strongly suggest you learn some climate science and scientific methodology before you criticize someone's work. Reminds me of the climate scientist who was blowing some years back that in HIS part of climate research (the upper reaches of the stratosphere) the temperatures were not changing and therefore there was no climate change. Only surface temps were changing, so he assumed (and bloviated) that the CLIMATE couldn't be changing because above 100,000 ft altitude he wasn't seeing anything. Fine if you live on the edges of space, I suppose, but all the humans I know of live below 12,000 ft altitude and on the physical surface of the planet, which he agreed WAS heating up. This sort of nonsense gives science a bad name, which is, after all, the entire and complete point of all the nonsense you referred to. Once we can discredit science we can get right back to Divine Right and get to persecuting heretics while stealing everything. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
in the age of the neoliberal, everything is subsumed to political agenda. there is no concept of independent truth or science. just limbaughesque comics spouting! is this news to you, peter? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. Quite a bit of data is missing, has obvious errors, or cannot be explained by known weather phenomena, and the data from the US is vastly better than most of the rest of the planet. In order to model and interpret, it can be necessary to correct known errors (a thermometer that read high or low all the time, for instance,and was known to by comparison) and to correct for errors when someone reported a temperature greatly different than surrounding ones with no explaination, etc. Data can be full of errors, after all. All the data from before the advent of weather satellites is from written records, often by amateurs or farmers who may or may not (probably mostly not) have had certified thermometers known to read accurately, and there has never been a real climate data system designed to collect the pertinent data, and even if there were one now, it certainly did not exist prior to the 1970s. The last major heat wave we had was quite similar here to the 1930s -- my mother lived through it. Just a couple degrees and a couple days short of the record set then. Climate scientists are well aware of the need to interpolate missing data, corrections necessary due to what are very obviously reporting errors, and so forth, and that information is included in their research papers if you bother to read them and understand them. Some layman nut writing under an assumed name shouldn't get the time of day, let alone credibility. I strongly suggest you learn some climate science and scientific methodology before you criticize someone's work. Reminds me of the climate scientist who was blowing some years back that in HIS part of climate research (the upper reaches of the stratosphere) the temperatures were not changing and therefore there was no climate change. Only surface temps were changing, so he assumed (and bloviated) that the CLIMATE couldn't be changing because above 100,000 ft altitude he wasn't seeing anything. Fine if you live on the edges of space, I suppose, but all the humans I know of live below 12,000 ft altitude and on the physical surface of the planet, which he agreed WAS heating up. This sort of nonsense gives science a bad name, which is, after all, the entire and complete point of all the nonsense you referred to. Once we can discredit science we can get right back to Divine Right and get to persecuting heretics while stealing everything. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
This absolutely doesn't belong on this list period. End of discussion. On Sunday, October 5, 2014, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: .. Now, in what might be the largest scientific fraud ever uncovered, NASA and the NOAA have been caught red-handed altering historical temperature data to produce a climate change narrative that defies reality. This finding, originally documented on the Real Science website, is detailed here. We now know that historical temperature data for the continental United States were deliberately altered by NASA and NOAA scientists in a politically-motivated attempt to rewrite history and claim global warming is causing U.S. temperatures to trend upward. The data actually show that we are in a cooling trend, not a warming trend (see charts below). This story is starting to break worldwide right now across the media, with The Telegraph now reporting (1), NOAA's US Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) has been 'adjusting' its record by replacing real temperatures with data 'fabricated' by computer models. Because the actual historical temperature record doesn't fit the frenzied, doomsday narrative of global warming being fronted today on the political stage, the data were simply altered using computer models and then published as fact. Here's the proof of the climate change fraud Here's the chart of U.S. temperatures published by NASA in 1999. It shows the highest temperatures actually occurred in the 1930's, followed by a cooling trend ramping downward to the year 2000: The authenticity of this chart is not in question. It is published by James Hansen on NASA's website. (2) On that page, Hansen even wrote, Empirical evidence does not lend much support to the notion that climate is headed precipitately toward more extreme heat and drought. After the Obama administration took office, however, and started pushing the global warming narrative for political purposes, NASA was directed to alter its historical data in order to reverse the cooling trend and show a warming trend instead. This was accomplished using climate-modeling computers that simply fabricated the data the researchers wished to see instead of what was actually happening in the real world. Using the exact same data found in the chart shown above (with a few years of additional data after 2000), NASA managed to misleadingly distort the chart to depict the appearance of global warming: The authenticity of this chart is also not in question. It can be found right now on NASA's servers. (4) This new, altered chart shows that historical data -- especially the severe heat and droughts experienced in the 1930's -- are now systematically suppressed to make them appear cooler than they really were. At the same time, temperature data from the 1970's to 2010 are strongly exaggerated to make them appear warmer than they really were. This is a clear case of scientific fraud being carried out on a grand scale in order to deceive the entire world about global warming. EPA data also confirm the global warming hoax What's even more interesting is that even the EPA's Heat Wave Index data further support the notion that the U.S. was far hotter in the 1930's than it is today. The following chart, published on the EPA.gov website (4), clearly shows modern-day heat waves are far smaller and less severe than those of the 1930's. In fact, the seemingly extreme heat waves of the last few years were no worse than those of the early 1900's or 1950's. Short-sighted agricultural practices cause more global warming than CO2 Seeing these charts, you might wonder how the extremely high temperatures of the 1930's came about. Were we releasing too much CO2 by burning fossil fuels? Nope. That entire episode of massive warming and drought was caused by conventional agricultural practices that clear-cut forests, poisoned the soils with chemicals and plowed the top soil away. Lacking trees to retain moisture, areas that were once thriving plains, grasslands and forests turned to desert. Suddenly, the cooling effects of moisture transpiration from healthy plant ecosystems was lost, causing extreme temperatures and deadly drought. Shortsighted agricultural practices, in other words, really did cause warming, while a restoration of a more natural ecosystem reversed the trend and cooled the region. Reforestation is the answer This brings us to the simple, obvious solution to all this. If you want to cool the planet, focus on reforestation efforts. If you want to retain moisture and keep your soils alive, you need diverse plant-based ecosystems, not clear-cut fields running monoculture operations. Forests act like sponges that soak up rainwater, and then they turn around and slowly release that water back into the air, moisturizing the atmosphere and keeping humidity levels high enough to support other
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
OK, everyone, Im going to pull the plug on this right away. There was nothing of value in that post that was even remotely relevant to subject matter for this list. This thread is closed. Period. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:07:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually happening. From a posting on that list, -- Incidentally, the handle of the hockey stick was produced by Mann using tree rings, which in itself is wrong as they represent precipitation not temperature. When the tree ring trend they produced went down in the 20th century they tacked on the modern record produced by Jones (hide the decline). Jones record became the blade of the hockey stick and shows the up turn on this graph. In his original work Jones claimed the temperature increased 0.6°C in approximately 120 years and that this was unnatural because it exceeded any natural temperature record increase. The ice core record shows that is false. More troubling, the Jones data was 0.6°C ±0.2°C or a ±33% percent error range. When Warwick Hughes asked for Jones' data he replied, on 21, February 2005. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it. Then Jones reported, what I think we will eventually hear from Mann, that he lost the data. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data Notice he says it is not acceptable, but he was never held accountable. Yes, the Mann or more correctly the Phil Jones and IPCC modern record up turn in the 20th century is insignificant in the 10,000 Holocene record. The reason for Mann's hockey stick was to support the argument that todays temperatures are the highest ever. We pointed out that the Medieval Warm Period, around 1000 on the graph was warmer, so Mann set out to get rid of it. It wasn't just Mann, but the entire gang at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), most of who were on the IPCC. One was Jonathan Overpeck, who in an email to David Deming said.We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period. Deming gave this as sworn testimony to the Congress. http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543 When we argued that the world was warmer for most of the Holocene as the Greenland graph shows, the argument made by NASA (Hansen), NOAA and especially the CRU people was that it was only warmer in summer temperatures. What rubbish. The evidence isn't just the ice core record. Here is a photograph of a White Spruce some 100 km north of the current tree line. It was taken by Professor Ritchie and first appeared in Lamb's Volume 2. I obtained permission from Professor Ritchie to use it in articles I was writing. Here the photo is attached to a similar Holocene graph to the one produced by NOAA that I used in a powerpoint presentation.. Notice the temperature was at least 2°C warmer than at present, yet the IPCC say this would be a catastrophic warming. The question is how did the polar bears survive the Holocene, because there was certainly considerably less ice. So many lies, so much terrible science. So little accountability - The billions of dollars of funding that has been poured into supporting the hysteria has corrupted many scientists and degraded science. Craig Ph.D. physics ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
Because the time stamp on this was within a few minutes of the post I'll let this slide. I don't want to see any more replies to this thread. Period. Dan List Mom with her finger on the Moderation button On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:07:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually happening. From a posting on that list, -- Incidentally, the handle of the hockey stick was produced by Mann using tree rings, which in itself is wrong as they represent precipitation not temperature. When the tree ring trend they produced went down in the 20th century they tacked on the modern record produced by Jones (hide the decline). Jones record became the blade of the hockey stick and shows the up turn on this graph. In his original work Jones claimed the temperature increased 0.6°C in approximately 120 years and that this was unnatural because it exceeded any natural temperature record increase. The ice core record shows that is false. More troubling, the Jones data was 0.6°C ±0.2°C or a ±33% percent error range. When Warwick Hughes asked for Jones' data he replied, on 21, February 2005. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it. Then Jones reported, what I think we will eventually hear from Mann, that he lost the data. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data Notice he says it is not acceptable, but he was never held accountable. Yes, the Mann or more correctly the Phil Jones and IPCC modern record up turn in the 20th century is insignificant in the 10,000 Holocene record. The reason for Mann's hockey stick was to support the argument that todays temperatures are the highest ever. We pointed out that the Medieval Warm Period, around 1000 on the graph was warmer, so Mann set out to get rid of it. It wasn't just Mann, but the entire gang at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), most of who were on the IPCC. One was Jonathan Overpeck, who in an email to David Deming said.We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period. Deming gave this as sworn testimony to the Congress. http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543 When we argued that the world was warmer for most of the Holocene as the Greenland graph shows, the argument made by NASA (Hansen), NOAA and especially the CRU people was that it was only warmer in summer temperatures. What rubbish. The evidence isn't just the ice core record. Here is a photograph of a White Spruce some 100 km north of the current tree line. It was taken by Professor Ritchie and first appeared in Lamb's Volume 2. I obtained permission from Professor Ritchie to use it in articles I was writing. Here the photo is attached to a similar Holocene graph to the one produced by NOAA that I used in a powerpoint presentation.. Notice the temperature was at least 2°C warmer than at present, yet the IPCC say this would be a catastrophic warming. The question is how did the polar bears survive the Holocene, because there was certainly considerably less ice. So many lies, so much terrible science. So little accountability - The billions of dollars of funding that has been poured into supporting the hysteria has corrupted many scientists and degraded science. Craig Ph.D. physics ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
Peter wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. That is probably true. However, there are things that can be accomplished man-to-man against any of this bs - and that is the story that needs to be told, not some political non-science or science argument. Simply, we use too much junk and we can live quite will without so much junk. Forget about the usual semantics that gets nobody anywhere except for polarizing politics - let's get it together as people, look at each other as persons, treat each other with kindness, share with each other instead of pillaging anywhere and everywhere, do more with less. The usual NewEngland saw comes in handy - use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without. We should be at the do without stage. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
doesn't seem closed from here On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:07:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually happening. From a posting on that list, -- Incidentally, the handle of the hockey stick was produced by Mann using tree rings, which in itself is wrong as they represent precipitation not temperature. When the tree ring trend they produced went down in the 20th century they tacked on the modern record produced by Jones (hide the decline). Jones record became the blade of the hockey stick and shows the up turn on this graph. In his original work Jones claimed the temperature increased 0.6°C in approximately 120 years and that this was unnatural because it exceeded any natural temperature record increase. The ice core record shows that is false. More troubling, the Jones data was 0.6°C ±0.2°C or a ±33% percent error range. When Warwick Hughes asked for Jones' data he replied, on 21, February 2005. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it. Then Jones reported, what I think we will eventually hear from Mann, that he lost the data. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data Notice he says it is not acceptable, but he was never held accountable. Yes, the Mann or more correctly the Phil Jones and IPCC modern record up turn in the 20th century is insignificant in the 10,000 Holocene record. The reason for Mann's hockey stick was to support the argument that todays temperatures are the highest ever. We pointed out that the Medieval Warm Period, around 1000 on the graph was warmer, so Mann set out to get rid of it. It wasn't just Mann, but the entire gang at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), most of who were on the IPCC. One was Jonathan Overpeck, who in an email to David Deming said.We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period. Deming gave this as sworn testimony to the Congress. http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543 When we argued that the world was warmer for most of the Holocene as the Greenland graph shows, the argument made by NASA (Hansen), NOAA and especially the CRU people was that it was only warmer in summer temperatures. What rubbish. The evidence isn't just the ice core record. Here is a photograph of a White Spruce some 100 km north of the current tree line. It was taken by Professor Ritchie and first appeared in Lamb's Volume 2. I obtained permission from Professor Ritchie to use it in articles I was writing. Here the photo is attached to a similar Holocene graph to the one produced by NOAA that I used in a powerpoint presentation.. Notice the temperature was at least 2°C warmer than at present, yet the IPCC say this would be a catastrophic warming. The question is how did the polar bears survive the Holocene, because there was certainly considerably less ice. So many lies, so much terrible science. So little accountability - The billions of dollars of funding that has been poured into supporting the hysteria has corrupted many scientists and degraded science. Craig Ph.D. physics ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
Dan wrote: Dan List Mom with her finger on the Moderation button Pooferator Pooserator Whatever - let us be childish for a while and back off, old man. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
Thanks Dan. I hate to be the MB content NAZI but I joined this 12 years ago for MB content. Period. On Oct 5, 2014 8:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, everyone, Im going to pull the plug on this right away. There was nothing of value in that post that was even remotely relevant to subject matter for this list. This thread is closed. Period. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
My father had an '83 240D automatic that I drove on a trip once, and it seemed just fine to me. A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. It must have been an unusual example, as I've driven a couple others since then, and they were not nearly as fast. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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but also for my sexy too, no? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks Dan. I hate to be the MB content NAZI but I joined this 12 years ago for MB content. Period. On Oct 5, 2014 8:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, everyone, Im going to pull the plug on this right away. There was nothing of value in that post that was even remotely relevant to subject matter for this list. This thread is closed. Period. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FWIW
No. No because this sort of thing just spirals down into a nasty free for all. It has no business here. Period. If people want to feed the fire, they'll be on moderation. That includes snarky or follow up comments. You have been warned. On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Dan List Mom with her finger on the Moderation button Pooferator Pooserator Whatever - let us be childish for a while and back off, old man. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 190D rear lower control arm bushings - Success!
Just got my '84 190D back from the Indy. He'd replaced the rear lower control arm bushings and the car is FINALLY a pleasure to drive. The 124/201 rear suspension is a delight when its setup correctly and a tragedy when its wrong. This one has never been right until now which is sad because the tinworm has made great strides in the last year or so while I've been farting around with the VW. On another sad note my Indy has mostly retired. He's working on the side which means pay cash and no receipt for now but I wonder how long its going to last. Without an Indy I fear it will be difficult for me to keep an old MB on the road, particularly a 201. There is an Import Motors up the road a piece, I may have to stop in and see what their deal is. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear lower control arm bushings - Success!
Sorry to hear that Curt. I couldn't keep my 2 on the road without my Indy Fred's Autohaus, who came to the ChowdahQ. On Oct 5, 2014 9:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just got my '84 190D back from the Indy. He'd replaced the rear lower control arm bushings and the car is FINALLY a pleasure to drive. The 124/201 rear suspension is a delight when its setup correctly and a tragedy when its wrong. This one has never been right until now which is sad because the tinworm has made great strides in the last year or so while I've been farting around with the VW. On another sad note my Indy has mostly retired. He's working on the side which means pay cash and no receipt for now but I wonder how long its going to last. Without an Indy I fear it will be difficult for me to keep an old MB on the road, particularly a 201. There is an Import Motors up the road a piece, I may have to stop in and see what their deal is. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear lower control arm bushings - Success!
I need to do that job on three cars -- my 300D (parts in the trunk, just gotta take the time to do it), the TE which also need bushings on the diff and a carrier bearing and mount, and my brother's 300E which squeaks. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear lower control arm bushings - Success!
I think this is what was wrong with my '85 190D also, it wandered slightly at speed and was no fun to drive because of it. I first noticed it headed home after one of the ChowdaQs, we were on an offramp of the highway, I heard and audible pop and the rear felt weird. With a manual trans I didn't notice the torquing at shifts like I did with the slushbox. If I ever buy another 201 or a 124 the FIRST thing I'll do is all the rear links, the subframe mounts and the lower control arm bushings... -Curt From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear lower control arm bushings - Success! I need to do that job on three cars -- my 300D (parts in the trunk, just gotta take the time to do it), the TE which also need bushings on the diff and a carrier bearing and mount, and my brother's 300E which squeaks. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MegaMB Day
Just as a follow up, got the car aligned today and the youngster says it's Like driving on a cloud. At very low speeds when decelerating, such as you would slowing for a stop, the rear would waddle as best as I can describe it. I have checked all the rear suspension and there's no wear or sloppiness, so I figured this was an alignment issue. The alignment tech told me the back was worse than the front as far as being out of spec, so that all correlates to the waddling. Even though the fall temps are now here (high 70s and no humidity today) it was still blowing ICE COLD today when I ran it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
I believe. On Oct 5, 2014 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First New resident of Okie Acres
I used to think that way... in fact, my first 300D lacked the AC belt... On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That looks mighty tempting! Too bad it doesn't have a manual transmission and euro headlights. I love the AC needs belt description. Sure, you betcha! Belt just fell off, nobody needs AC in Dallas, all the new owner needs to do is put a belt on it and that AC will be blowing ice cold Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Mileage? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe. On Oct 5, 2014 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
Max wrote: ...A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. Ours is an '83 also, and if you push hard, it will leave stop quite well. I put it in low and shift up manually rather than the sometimes quick upshift, which is doggy. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fwd: Jay Leno's Garage: 1972 Mercedes-Benz 600 Kompressor - Jay Leno's Garage
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[MBZ] 300td travels mileage on WVO
I don't really know my mileage my odometer doesn't work right ….. it occasionally adds a mile altho the speedo is fine. started out full, went about 1200 miles according to google, maybe 1240 miles I hauled 12 X 5 gals of wvo but all weren't accurately filled … some full, some down an inch or two I came home with 5 gals and the tank would probably need 7 or 8 gals to fill, so about 63 gals for 1250 miles 20 mpg …. it's probably a little better, but i was going fast and dragging a trailer it usually seems like i get about 25 mpg something may be wrong with my computations …. tank may have been down 10 gals at the start thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td travels mileage on WVO
Well, ATTABOY for arriving home safely. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't really know my mileage my odometer doesn't work right ….. it occasionally adds a mile altho the speedo is fine. started out full, went about 1200 miles according to google, maybe 1240 miles I hauled 12 X 5 gals of wvo but all weren't accurately filled … some full, some down an inch or two I came home with 5 gals and the tank would probably need 7 or 8 gals to fill, so about 63 gals for 1250 miles 20 mpg …. it's probably a little better, but i was going fast and dragging a trailer it usually seems like i get about 25 mpg something may be wrong with my computations …. tank may have been down 10 gals at the start thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 21:35:41 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max wrote: ...A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. Ours is an '83 also, and if you push hard, it will leave stop quite well. I put it in low and shift up manually rather than the sometimes quick upshift, which is doggy. Yes, that is the way to make a 240D/auto (which is how our's started its life) perform. When you do that, it does work pretty well. Just make sure you DO NOT downshift manually into low when coming to a stop. If you do it at the speed the transmission wants to be in second and then slow down some more, the transmission will slam into first, causing the car to lurch and stress to be put on the innards of the transmission. Do that enough times, and the transmission will break deep inside. That's why we now have a 240D/3.0 with a stick shift -- a rebuilt auto tranny was $2500. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Compromise?
Dan wrote: It has no business here. Period. A compromise? We get off-topic MB quite often and that is enjoyable. I enjoy reading about Sondrestrom AFB. I enjoy reading other stuff also, so a stance against anything but MB can make for a dull email existence, i.e. tell me how to do this job, I did that job - we understand many things about each other and that forms community. We know who comes out on the side of science and who finds science to be more politics. We know each other and that is nice. If I can't hear ideas about non-science and comment, where is the challenge we can issue among ourselves? I read this list more than I talk with the babes at some local watering hole. We can be cordial, we can be honest, we can challenge. If not here, where? Okiebenz has become a major and enjoyable outlet for more than all things MB. I find my personal thoughts getting challenged when I read ideas expressed at okiebenz. Yeah, if our safety is more important than camaraderie and challenging ideas, I dunno... How about something other than compleat ban on this type of idea presentation? That is my challenge to ListMom top-down fifedom. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
A properly sorted 1983 300TD will accelerate and handle like a modern car, gasoline engines included. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 21:35:41 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max wrote: ...A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. Ours is an '83 also, and if you push hard, it will leave stop quite well. I put it in low and shift up manually rather than the sometimes quick upshift, which is doggy. Yes, that is the way to make a 240D/auto (which is how our's started its life) perform. When you do that, it does work pretty well. Just make sure you DO NOT downshift manually into low when coming to a stop. If you do it at the speed the transmission wants to be in second and then slow down some more, the transmission will slam into first, causing the car to lurch and stress to be put on the innards of the transmission. Do that enough times, and the transmission will break deep inside. That's why we now have a 240D/3.0 with a stick shift -- a rebuilt auto tranny was $2500. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td travels mileage on WVO
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 22:48:58 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, ATTABOY for arriving home safely. Amen! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Posts to the List
Hi folks, Dan wrote me privately. Here's his message with my answers/questions. gerry Dan wrote: Gerry, The post you just made to the list was inappropriate and not at all within the agreed upon rules for content G: You mean because it didn't have Mercedes content? Can you send me a copy of the agreed upon rules? . I will ask that you not post anything like this again, as I don't want to put you on moderation. G: By like this I'm not sure what you mean. Perhaps you could give me a list of subjects which are forbidden since this is not a pure Mercedes list by any means. If you wish to put me on moderation I see no problem since I don't post much anyway. (See my reason for posting the article below.) I have seen a number of posts like this you have attempted to make to the list in the past, however, because you were crossposting them to many people using blind copies they were rejected. G: I'm not sure what you mean. I don't recall having previously posted anything about global warming. Gerry .. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] R-12 versus R-134
Gerry wrote: I posted this to see if there were filters for such issues on the mercedes list. The existence of such filters on Yahoogroups is being investigated by several members of a Yahoogroups list I belong to, and I had hoped to post a failure to deliver notice here in the hopes that some of the computer experts on this list could determine how and/or by whom the message was blocked. The government has proposed laws to control the content of submissions on the internet which are opposed by many, left wing and right wing. It isn't surprising that most members objection to the posting is because of its content rather than the fact that it is not about Mercedes. Personally, I have a wait and see attitude toward global warming; especially since I remember that during the 1970s all the rage was about global cooling which was why the government took away R-12 and have caused us Mercedes owners all sorts of air conditioning troubles. (Mercedes content.) Gerry...an observer, not a partisan or activist. Peter wrote: This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the internet before you do due diligence. .. Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually happening. From a posting on that list, -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
