Re: [MBZ] TV options
IIRC Bluray and OTA are both 25Mb/s so no difference. Last I knew Comcast cable was 6Mb/s. Others are probably similar. I prefer 720 personally but don't think it really matters. What I dislike is high frame rates, once you exceed 30fps the video gets the dreaded soap opera effect and looks dumb. Sadly there is nothing a normal person can do about it... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
No you most likely would not be able to tell a difference Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Would a normal person notice a difference between 720p and 1080p tellys in the 24 to 32 range? I am assuming over the air programs are not of a quality that you would notice the difference, but with a HD DVD movie, perhaps you might notice? Just wondering if it is worth spending extra $$ for the 1080p. Worst buy had a 29 for $100, but the closest one I could find is in nawlins. 1000 miles away. Cant drive there and back for $100. Didn't see anything in wallyland as good as what was there on Wed. As usual, Wally is all about brainwashing the sheeple and putting bucks in Walton pockets. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
On Nov 29, 2014 2:09 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: difference. Wound up getting an open box 24 Insignia 1080 job for $80 (nice picture!), so if you're near a BB, stop by in person. They usually You can usually see open box items online, though of course that just tells you they haven't been purchased yet. To the subject, Roku is wonderful. I own four (two are loaned out). It has more supported content than Apple TV, a thoughtful interface, and is pretty easy to set up. Remote on the higher models is Bluetooth, but there is also an IR receiver for universals. I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime, so no dearth of content. The LT is $30 this weekend, if I recall correctly, but I'm not shopping so I don't know if it has analog out. The bigger models do, I paid $40 for my refurbished Roku 2 but they are usually $60ish. The oldest one I have (now on loan) ran every day for a couple of years. If you need local news or sports, you can dig up a new HDHomeRun device to do ATSC to the network. I don't have one, and haven't priced them recently. There is probably some way to do the same with Plex and a tuner card in your computer. Plex is good for local media streaming if you have a big library on the computer. I have a separate DVD and VHS player. When I bought the new TV, I calculated how much time the kids were watching TV and figured up the power utilization delta over a couple years, and added that to my TV budget. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Linebacker II and 1812 Overture
How the real thing in actual air combat with 1812 overture in the background?;) Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Linebacker II and 1812 Overture How about the real thing from the US Army Artillery and Missile school at Ft. Sill? My ears are still ringing, 50+ years later. On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing like an outdoor 1812 with howitzers supplied by the National Guard. Experienced that once in Jackson Hole. -- Jim -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
We still have archives. Good archival info at peachparts, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D Another possibility that you should be able to find in the archives (if we still have one) is that some have found corrosion/pitting in the groves that the t-stats seats in when it opens-closes. No seal, and it's like the t-stat isn't there. I don't remember which engine was experiencing this. On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 7:10 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I agree that it behaves as if there is a physical block preventing coolant from circulating but let's say a blown headgasket or crack in head is pushing exhaust gases into cooling system- will this not cause the water pump to get air locked and no longer be able to pump? With blown headgasket coolant is essentially being replaced with exhaust gas? As Curt says the new tstat is high quality and works but it's not OE. Can this really make such a difference? The water pump looks perfect, the impeller blades exhibit no corrosion, it spins smoothly and there is no play. The vent line E should be checked. It appears to be a narrow exterior steel line. I should see if this can be checked for patency. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
MMM says you can see the difference. Kaleb says you can't see the difference. Good info TIm. Thanks! I don't like worstbuy because they assume you are a shoplifter if you walk in the door. Same as Micro$oft, they assume you stole your OS as soon as you turn the computer or load the OS. Then you have to prove you bought it. That is BS On Nov 29, 2014 2:09 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: difference. Wound up getting an open box 24 Insignia 1080 job for $80 (nice picture!), so if you're near a BB, stop by in person. They usually You can usually see open box items online, though of course that just tells you they haven't been purchased yet. To the subject, Roku is wonderful. I own four (two are loaned out). It has more supported content than Apple TV, a thoughtful interface, and is pretty easy to set up. Remote on the higher models is Bluetooth, but there is also an IR receiver for universals. I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime, so no dearth of content. The LT is $30 this weekend, if I recall correctly, but I'm not shopping so I don't know if it has analog out. The bigger models do, I paid $40 for my refurbished Roku 2 but they are usually $60ish. The oldest one I have (now on loan) ran every day for a couple of years. If you need local news or sports, you can dig up a new HDHomeRun device to do ATSC to the network. I don't have one, and haven't priced them recently. There is probably some way to do the same with Plex and a tuner card in your computer. Plex is good for local media streaming if you have a big library on the computer. I have a separate DVD and VHS player. When I bought the new TV, I calculated how much time the kids were watching TV and figured up the power utilization delta over a couple years, and added that to my TV budget. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
It's TV. While you might see a difference under perfect conditions, my feeling is that nearly all content is of low enough resolution for a variety of reasons that from normal viewing distance (10 ft and up) differences are quite minor. There is more quality difference between plasma and LCD technology, with the nod going to plasma for color, brightness, and contrast, but don't expect to be able to buy a plasma anymore. If you are replacing a set more than six or seven years old, they are all much better now anyway. I went from a mediocre Sony CRT to a 40 plasma back when everything went digital, and am quite pleased. More trouble now that I have a metal roof on the house as the attic antenna isn't very useful anymore, and I've not gotten the amplified one up there yet to see if I have to put it out doors (which is gonna cost a couple hundred dollars). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
My most wise and respected Grandmother [mother of 12 outstanding citizens who were accomplished in their chosen fields] said it best, in my opinion at least. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world In her day.. and mine.. all hands rocked the cradle.. men and women worked together to build families, not careers. The focus was on children, their tenure as young emerging adults, and the building of necessary skills to contribute to a civil and productive society.. All adults were given and took seriously the responsibility to give guidance and correction where necessary to young emerging adults and to teach responsibility of actions, good or bad.. to both reward good actions and to rebuke bad actions.. The past 30 yrs of our latest social engineering experiment has failed pretty miserably in preserving those standards of civilization which overall worked to great success... such as being responsible for your own actions to others.. courtesy ... work ethic [and the boss ethic which required loyalty to your workers], and many others.. I mourn this loss of civilization and rise in concern for the heirs to our mistakes.. When civilization is lost, it must be relearned, always at cost of blood and treasure.. Your personal mileage may vary, I'm commenting on the wide brush picture of society worldwide, as I see it. Grant... On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick wrote: Many youths and young adults don't have a moral compass or a sense of shame... and THAT is a problem for our future. Let's be realistic. It ain't our future - it is their future. Our future is gone - let it be. I think we will be proud of what their future is, if *we* did things responsibly in the first place. Their future is all our fault. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Amen. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D My most wise and respected Grandmother [mother of 12 outstanding citizens who were accomplished in their chosen fields] said it best, in my opinion at least. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world In her day.. and mine.. all hands rocked the cradle.. men and women worked together to build families, not careers. The focus was on children, their tenure as young emerging adults, and the building of necessary skills to contribute to a civil and productive society.. All adults were given and took seriously the responsibility to give guidance and correction where necessary to young emerging adults and to teach responsibility of actions, good or bad.. to both reward good actions and to rebuke bad actions.. The past 30 yrs of our latest social engineering experiment has failed pretty miserably in preserving those standards of civilization which overall worked to great success... such as being responsible for your own actions to others.. courtesy ... work ethic [and the boss ethic which required loyalty to your workers], and many others.. I mourn this loss of civilization and rise in concern for the heirs to our mistakes.. When civilization is lost, it must be relearned, always at cost of blood and treasure.. Your personal mileage may vary, I'm commenting on the wide brush picture of society worldwide, as I see it. Grant... On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick wrote: Many youths and young adults don't have a moral compass or a sense of shame... and THAT is a problem for our future. Let's be realistic. It ain't our future - it is their future. Our future is gone - let it be. I think we will be proud of what their future is, if *we* did things responsibly in the first place. Their future is all our fault. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
Yep, another silly Sondy Tale already: THE HAIR SALON By Wilton Strickland While waiting for a base commander's staff meeting at Sondrestrom to begin one morning, a couple of women sergeants (not under my command or supervision) across the table from me were discussing the difficulty of finding somebody to cut their hair. Both of them had short hair in a very simple, pixie style a la Leslie Caron. I wondered to myself why they didn't cut each other's hair. After listening for a few minutes to their complaints about their hair being too long and having nobody to cut it, I finally chimed in with, I can cut it. They both turned quickly toward me and asked, What was that? What did you say? I repeated, I can do it; I can cut it. I have a pair of barber's scissors. I used to cut my three children's hair - even trim my own occasionally. My daughter's 21 now and the two boys are teenagers, but years ago, I used to cut their hair. My daughter's hair is blonde and sort of fine. Yours is dark and is probably a little coarser and a little thicker, but I can do it - carefully and a little bit at a time, of course. We can take it very slowly, not be too aggressive and stop whenever you want. They both said, Okay, lets do it. When and where? I said, How 'bout Saturday morning at 1000 in your dormitory dayroom? I'll take a shirt to drape over your shoulders. A few minutes before the appointed time, one of 'em called me to ask if she should wash her hair so as to cut it wet. I told her, I've never cut any wet - probably better do it dry and just a little at a time so we can monitor the progress. I arrived at the dayroom to find only one of 'em there, the other having decided to wait to see how the first one turned out. I draped the shirt over her shoulders and, using a comb and scissors, proceeded to cut very carefully until both of us were pleased with it. Luckily, there was a large mirror on one wall, and she used a hand-held mirror and the wall mirror to follow the progress. A bar stool made the hair salon nearly ideal. That evening, the other sergeant called me and expressed her approval of the job I had done on the first one and asked if and when I could cut hers. How 'bout tomorrow afternoon at 2 in your dayroom? I replied. I did the second one, and a few days later, a third young enlisted woman asked me to cut her hair, also. During the next several months, I cut two of them a second time. By the way, for those who are wondering, I expected and received nothing in return, other than a few verbal thank yous, and there was nothing else going on between the women and me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:10:41 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: After listening for a few minutes to their complaints about their hair being too long and having nobody to cut it, I finally chimed in with, I can cut it. ATTABOY, Wilton! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
What he said. There are some things we have done our best to ingrain into both of our boys: You and only you are responsible for yourself, your actions, and how people perceive you. If you are honest, work hard, and treat others with respect no matter how you are treated, you will succeed. Success is measured by you and only you based on your personal goals and values. Personal integrity is the only thing you can really control, but it must be earned through your actions. No one can take it away from you, but you are the only one who can give it value. No matter how difficult life becomes, there is one thing you will always have - family. It is incumbent on you to care for, trust, respect and protect your family. They are the foundation on which you as a person and your personality are built on, and how you conduct yourself reflects directly back on every member. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, whenever our boys challenged or questioned our values relative to others or society in general, we always told them that it is because we have high(er) standards. We backed that up through our actions and examples. Now that both are adults they have told us how much they appreciate the way we raised them. They still deal with the trials and tribulations of young adults, but they need those experiences to build their own characters - there are some things you can’t teach or set examples for. You have to lead by example…. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My most wise and respected Grandmother [mother of 12 outstanding citizens who were accomplished in their chosen fields] said it best, in my opinion at least. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world In her day.. and mine.. all hands rocked the cradle.. men and women worked together to build families, not careers. The focus was on children, their tenure as young emerging adults, and the building of necessary skills to contribute to a civil and productive society.. All adults were given and took seriously the responsibility to give guidance and correction where necessary to young emerging adults and to teach responsibility of actions, good or bad.. to both reward good actions and to rebuke bad actions.. The past 30 yrs of our latest social engineering experiment has failed pretty miserably in preserving those standards of civilization which overall worked to great success... such as being responsible for your own actions to others.. courtesy ... work ethic [and the boss ethic which required loyalty to your workers], and many others.. I mourn this loss of civilization and rise in concern for the heirs to our mistakes.. When civilization is lost, it must be relearned, always at cost of blood and treasure.. Your personal mileage may vary, I'm commenting on the wide brush picture of society worldwide, as I see it. Grant... On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick wrote: Many youths and young adults don't have a moral compass or a sense of shame... and THAT is a problem for our future. Let's be realistic. It ain't our future - it is their future. Our future is gone - let it be. I think we will be proud of what their future is, if *we* did things responsibly in the first place. Their future is all our fault. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
What, no tips? I always tip my barber. grin Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 1:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, another silly Sondy Tale already: THE HAIR SALON By Wilton Strickland While waiting for a base commander's staff meeting at Sondrestrom to begin one morning, a couple of women sergeants (not under my command or supervision) across the table from me were discussing the difficulty of finding somebody to cut their hair. Both of them had short hair in a very simple, pixie style a la Leslie Caron. I wondered to myself why they didn't cut each other's hair. After listening for a few minutes to their complaints about their hair being too long and having nobody to cut it, I finally chimed in with, I can cut it. They both turned quickly toward me and asked, What was that? What did you say? I repeated, I can do it; I can cut it. I have a pair of barber's scissors. I used to cut my three children's hair - even trim my own occasionally. My daughter's 21 now and the two boys are teenagers, but years ago, I used to cut their hair. My daughter's hair is blonde and sort of fine. Yours is dark and is probably a little coarser and a little thicker, but I can do it - carefully and a little bit at a time, of course. We can take it very slowly, not be too aggressive and stop whenever you want. They both said, Okay, lets do it. When and where? I said, How 'bout Saturday morning at 1000 in your dormitory dayroom? I'll take a shirt to drape over your shoulders. A few minutes before the appointed time, one of 'em called me to ask if she should wash her hair so as to cut it wet. I told her, I've never cut any wet - probably better do it dry and just a little at a time so we can monitor the progress. I arrived at the dayroom to find only one of 'em there, the other having decided to wait to see how the first one turned out. I draped the shirt over her shoulders and, using a comb and scissors, proceeded to cut very carefully until both of us were pleased with it. Luckily, there was a large mirror on one wall, and she used a hand-held mirror and the wall mirror to follow the progress. A bar stool made the hair salon nearly ideal. That evening, the other sergeant called me and expressed her approval of the job I had done on the first one and asked if and when I could cut hers. How 'bout tomorrow afternoon at 2 in your dayroom? I replied. I did the second one, and a few days later, a third young enlisted woman asked me to cut her hair, also. During the next several months, I cut two of them a second time. By the way, for those who are wondering, I expected and received nothing in return, other than a few verbal thank yous, and there was nothing else going on between the women and me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
As long as we support a society that rewards failure (meant in the broad sense) and punishes success (also in a broad sense) expect more of the same. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:31 PM To: Mountain Man; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D My most wise and respected Grandmother [mother of 12 outstanding citizens who were accomplished in their chosen fields] said it best, in my opinion at least. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world In her day.. and mine.. all hands rocked the cradle.. men and women worked together to build families, not careers. The focus was on children, their tenure as young emerging adults, and the building of necessary skills to contribute to a civil and productive society.. All adults were given and took seriously the responsibility to give guidance and correction where necessary to young emerging adults and to teach responsibility of actions, good or bad.. to both reward good actions and to rebuke bad actions.. The past 30 yrs of our latest social engineering experiment has failed pretty miserably in preserving those standards of civilization which overall worked to great success... such as being responsible for your own actions to others.. courtesy ... work ethic [and the boss ethic which required loyalty to your workers], and many others.. I mourn this loss of civilization and rise in concern for the heirs to our mistakes.. When civilization is lost, it must be relearned, always at cost of blood and treasure.. Your personal mileage may vary, I'm commenting on the wide brush picture of society worldwide, as I see it. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
We bought a 60” plasma three years ago this week and we’re very pleased. The one reason we wanted a plasma was because of viewing angles. The TV is on a wall on the long dimension of a room, so it needs to be able to be seen across a wide space. The one thing I don’t like about it is the reflective screen. Poorly placed lighting can really make it difficult to see due to reflections. Placement of such in the room is critical. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's TV. While you might see a difference under perfect conditions, my feeling is that nearly all content is of low enough resolution for a variety of reasons that from normal viewing distance (10 ft and up) differences are quite minor. There is more quality difference between plasma and LCD technology, with the nod going to plasma for color, brightness, and contrast, but don't expect to be able to buy a plasma anymore. If you are replacing a set more than six or seven years old, they are all much better now anyway. I went from a mediocre Sony CRT to a 40 plasma back when everything went digital, and am quite pleased. More trouble now that I have a metal roof on the house as the attic antenna isn't very useful anymore, and I've not gotten the amplified one up there yet to see if I have to put it out doors (which is gonna cost a couple hundred dollars). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Big ATTABOY to you, SHMBO, and the children. Despite the bad examples we see in public display, both in private and government. the core of civilized people is still strong.. the values which cause good social and business interaction are not lost.. just injured If this were a combat situation I would put society in general, world wide,on the walking wounded list.. It is reflected in the cars that are built.. the machinery produced, the work ethic displayed by the checkout stand... and noted by those of us who know and still subscribe to the values of a working and functioning civilized society. In final distillation, it is in large part why we drive now ancient Mercedes that were built under that make it right or not at all ethic... and appreciate them still... Grant... On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What he said. There are some things we have done our best to ingrain into both of our boys: You and only you are responsible for yourself, your actions, and how people perceive you. If you are honest, work hard, and treat others with respect no matter how you are treated, you will succeed. Success is measured by you and only you based on your personal goals and values. Personal integrity is the only thing you can really control, but it must be earned through your actions. No one can take it away from you, but you are the only one who can give it value. No matter how difficult life becomes, there is one thing you will always have - family. It is incumbent on you to care for, trust, respect and protect your family. They are the foundation on which you as a person and your personality are built on, and how you conduct yourself reflects directly back on every member. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, whenever our boys challenged or questioned our values relative to others or society in general, we always told them that it is because we have high(er) standards. We backed that up through our actions and examples. Now that both are adults they have told us how much they appreciate the way we raised them. They still deal with the trials and tribulations of young adults, but they need those experiences to build their own characters - there are some things you can’t teach or set examples for. You have to lead by example…. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My most wise and respected Grandmother [mother of 12 outstanding citizens who were accomplished in their chosen fields] said it best, in my opinion at least. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world In her day.. and mine.. all hands rocked the cradle.. men and women worked together to build families, not careers. The focus was on children, their tenure as young emerging adults, and the building of necessary skills to contribute to a civil and productive society.. All adults were given and took seriously the responsibility to give guidance and correction where necessary to young emerging adults and to teach responsibility of actions, good or bad.. to both reward good actions and to rebuke bad actions.. The past 30 yrs of our latest social engineering experiment has failed pretty miserably in preserving those standards of civilization which overall worked to great success... such as being responsible for your own actions to others.. courtesy ... work ethic [and the boss ethic which required loyalty to your workers], and many others.. I mourn this loss of civilization and rise in concern for the heirs to our mistakes.. When civilization is lost, it must be relearned, always at cost of blood and treasure.. Your personal mileage may vary, I'm commenting on the wide brush picture of society worldwide, as I see it. Grant... On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick wrote: Many youths and young adults don't have a moral compass or a sense of shame... and THAT is a problem for our future. Let's be realistic. It ain't our future - it is their future. Our future is gone - let it be. I think we will be proud of what their future is, if *we* did things responsibly in the first place. Their future is all our fault. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Yoots
Alles.I read an useful definition in a book:-Reputation is what other people know about you.Honor is what you know about yourself.LMBujold Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
I believe this as well. Despite all the naysayers, I really believe that most people are generally ethical and act appropriately when challenged. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:14 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Big ATTABOY to you, SHMBO, and the children. Despite the bad examples we see in public display, both in private and government. the core of civilized people is still strong.. the values which cause good social and business interaction are not lost.. just injured If this were a combat situation I would put society in general, world wide,on the walking wounded list.. It is reflected in the cars that are built.. the machinery produced, the work ethic displayed by the checkout stand... and noted by those of us who know and still subscribe to the values of a working and functioning civilized society. In final distillation, it is in large part why we drive now ancient Mercedes that were built under that make it right or not at all ethic... and appreciate them still... Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore)
Tempting project. But NOT. On Nov 29, 2014 3:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:26:48 -0800 fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4778336696.html If you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18yNDgzNTI0OPCETWrv7jbdK-fXxTCrJCMu5UCDoUdPqJncOSs98MrBp6jsfQiqyYw5SnEBEJUyPw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
Yep. But you not enlistee, and barber not officer. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON What, no tips? I always tip my barber. grin Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 1:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, another silly Sondy Tale already: THE HAIR SALON By Wilton Strickland While waiting for a base commander's staff meeting at Sondrestrom to begin one morning, a couple of women sergeants (not under my command or supervision) across the table from me were discussing the difficulty of finding somebody to cut their hair. Both of them had short hair in a very simple, pixie style a la Leslie Caron. I wondered to myself why they didn't cut each other's hair. After listening for a few minutes to their complaints about their hair being too long and having nobody to cut it, I finally chimed in with, I can cut it. They both turned quickly toward me and asked, What was that? What did you say? I repeated, I can do it; I can cut it. I have a pair of barber's scissors. I used to cut my three children's hair - even trim my own occasionally. My daughter's 21 now and the two boys are teenagers, but years ago, I used to cut their hair. My daughter's hair is blonde and sort of fine. Yours is dark and is probably a little coarser and a little thicker, but I can do it - carefully and a little bit at a time, of course. We can take it very slowly, not be too aggressive and stop whenever you want. They both said, Okay, lets do it. When and where? I said, How 'bout Saturday morning at 1000 in your dormitory dayroom? I'll take a shirt to drape over your shoulders. A few minutes before the appointed time, one of 'em called me to ask if she should wash her hair so as to cut it wet. I told her, I've never cut any wet - probably better do it dry and just a little at a time so we can monitor the progress. I arrived at the dayroom to find only one of 'em there, the other having decided to wait to see how the first one turned out. I draped the shirt over her shoulders and, using a comb and scissors, proceeded to cut very carefully until both of us were pleased with it. Luckily, there was a large mirror on one wall, and she used a hand-held mirror and the wall mirror to follow the progress. A bar stool made the hair salon nearly ideal. That evening, the other sergeant called me and expressed her approval of the job I had done on the first one and asked if and when I could cut hers. How 'bout tomorrow afternoon at 2 in your dayroom? I replied. I did the second one, and a few days later, a third young enlisted woman asked me to cut her hair, also. During the next several months, I cut two of them a second time. By the way, for those who are wondering, I expected and received nothing in return, other than a few verbal thank yous, and there was nothing else going on between the women and me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
In that regard, the feedback system on ebay, Angieslist and other consumer sites is a great motivator of decent human behavior. My faith has always been rewarded by those who have good reviews, although for all that I know they are or were scoundrels at heart On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe this as well. Despite all the naysayers, I really believe that most people are generally ethical and act appropriately when challenged. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:14 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Big ATTABOY to you, SHMBO, and the children. Despite the bad examples we see in public display, both in private and government. the core of civilized people is still strong.. the values which cause good social and business interaction are not lost.. just injured If this were a combat situation I would put society in general, world wide,on the walking wounded list.. It is reflected in the cars that are built.. the machinery produced, the work ethic displayed by the checkout stand... and noted by those of us who know and still subscribe to the values of a working and functioning civilized society. In final distillation, it is in large part why we drive now ancient Mercedes that were built under that make it right or not at all ethic... and appreciate them still... Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore)
Is that a turbo? Looks like a great deal, not too rusty. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 29, 2014 3:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:26:48 -0800 fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4778336696.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore)
Nope. '81 was the first year with a turbo. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that a turbo? Looks like a great deal, not too rusty. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 29, 2014 3:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:26:48 -0800 fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore) http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4778336696.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
More like a salute an a, “Thank you, sir!” would be appropriate. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:47 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep. But you not enlistee, and barber not officer. ;))) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
I agree with Curt that the likelihood of the thermostat being faulty is probably a stretch but I'll likely replace it with an MB original nevertheless- hello Classic Center. I think my next course of action is to do a leakdown test to see if any air leaks into radiator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my early MB days I bought all my parts from Randy Steele (EPS, Ltd.) who was a former MB dealer parts guy before going out on his own. Randy once told me that about one in three thermostats were bad or out of spec, regardless of the supplier. I can’t recall which one (Behr or Wahler) was preferred, but he always told me to test it before I installed it to be sure it was working correctly. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:53 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I went thru the cooling system of my 91 300D and had some strange problems myself - I started chasing a leak and replaced the water pump and T stat gasket (rec'd incorrect info from MB dealer about size of T Stat) and when the nozzle on the radiator broke i replaced the radiator. The t stat was the only thing not replaced - and I checked it in boiling water and it opened as it should (I thought). But I had fixed the leak and another problem had started - it was running about 20-30C hotter than normal. Since I had changed all other components (short of the block) I ordered a T Stat and crossed my fingers it would fit - hoping the lady at MB was wrong when she said the size of my t stat had changed, and the old sized TStats were no longer available - and luckily the one I rec'd was correct. I installed it and my problems were over. So, in short (I know, HA!) my old Tested' T'Stat was bad, not good as I thought the hot water test indicated. Also, while i waited for a new T'Stat I removed the guts of the old T Stat so water would flow freely thru it. It still ran hot! But the new T Stat fixed any over heating problems. Things are not always logical. LarryT 91 300D 78 240D On 11/28/2014 1:52 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: It was fine for a week but it's cooling system started rearing it's ugly head again! Hahaha. Ok so I can't get the lower rad hose to warm up even when upper hose is hot- engine is running hot at this point with coolant boiling out of rad neck. Shouldn't lower hose be hot instead of stone cold if I'm getting coolant circulation? I check T stat in boiling water and it opens just fine. I'm wondering if water pump is not working as it should. Coolant is apparently not circulating into heater core either as it blows cold air. So I started taking water pump out to inspect but York AC bracket appears to be blocking one of water pump mounting bolts. Must compressor be moved? Is there any other way around this Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Sincerely, LarryT http://www.instantpaydaynetwork.com/larryturner youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
As you know i have never been convinced that it was or is a head gasket. Thst gasket h block top was in too good of shape. My indy Fred-who was at Q said 240 heads never go. Bolts are another matter i donbt know about. That said leakdown test is #1. I had compression tested 325-350. All good. Wish i were closer you had nice warm garage. LOL. On Nov 29, 2014 4:53 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I agree with Curt that the likelihood of the thermostat being faulty is probably a stretch but I'll likely replace it with an MB original nevertheless- hello Classic Center. I think my next course of action is to do a leakdown test to see if any air leaks into radiator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my early MB days I bought all my parts from Randy Steele (EPS, Ltd.) who was a former MB dealer parts guy before going out on his own. Randy once told me that about one in three thermostats were bad or out of spec, regardless of the supplier. I can’t recall which one (Behr or Wahler) was preferred, but he always told me to test it before I installed it to be sure it was working correctly. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:53 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I went thru the cooling system of my 91 300D and had some strange problems myself - I started chasing a leak and replaced the water pump and T stat gasket (rec'd incorrect info from MB dealer about size of T Stat) and when the nozzle on the radiator broke i replaced the radiator. The t stat was the only thing not replaced - and I checked it in boiling water and it opened as it should (I thought). But I had fixed the leak and another problem had started - it was running about 20-30C hotter than normal. Since I had changed all other components (short of the block) I ordered a T Stat and crossed my fingers it would fit - hoping the lady at MB was wrong when she said the size of my t stat had changed, and the old sized TStats were no longer available - and luckily the one I rec'd was correct. I installed it and my problems were over. So, in short (I know, HA!) my old Tested' T'Stat was bad, not good as I thought the hot water test indicated. Also, while i waited for a new T'Stat I removed the guts of the old T Stat so water would flow freely thru it. It still ran hot! But the new T Stat fixed any over heating problems. Things are not always logical. LarryT 91 300D 78 240D On 11/28/2014 1:52 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: It was fine for a week but it's cooling system started rearing it's ugly head again! Hahaha. Ok so I can't get the lower rad hose to warm up even when upper hose is hot- engine is running hot at this point with coolant boiling out of rad neck. Shouldn't lower hose be hot instead of stone cold if I'm getting coolant circulation? I check T stat in boiling water and it opens just fine. I'm wondering if water pump is not working as it should. Coolant is apparently not circulating into heater core either as it blows cold air. So I started taking water pump out to inspect but York AC bracket appears to be blocking one of water pump mounting bolts. Must compressor be moved? Is there any other way around this Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Sincerely, LarryT http://www.instantpaydaynetwork.com/larryturner youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON
Yes, their thank yous were sufficient. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Another Sondy Tale - THE HAIR SALON More like a salute an a, “Thank you, sir!” would be appropriate. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:47 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep. But you not enlistee, and barber not officer. ;))) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Yoots was Re: Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Dan wrote: Success is measured by you and only you based on your personal goals and values. I think this is a concept that needs to be in flux. Examples of how this is being implemented around us are primary examples of the fundamental failure. Self is not the *all important.* While social values are not the *all important* either, there needs to be greater spread across the borders of self and social. We are community, *co* meaning with or together has a dynamic place. With self in the primary seat, we generate failure. Be careful. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TV options
You can really tell the difference. Bigger TV will look like crap at 720p, so go 1080p and make sure it has high refresh. The 720p on a smaller TV is not really bad, as long as you are watching it from a fair distance. Up close they are blocky and less nice to watch. clay On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: MMM says you can see the difference. Kaleb says you can't see the difference. Good info TIm. Thanks! I don't like worstbuy because they assume you are a shoplifter if you walk in the door. Same as Micro$oft, they assume you stole your OS as soon as you turn the computer or load the OS. Then you have to prove you bought it. That is BS On Nov 29, 2014 2:09 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: difference. Wound up getting an open box 24 Insignia 1080 job for $80 (nice picture!), so if you're near a BB, stop by in person. They usually You can usually see open box items online, though of course that just tells you they haven't been purchased yet. To the subject, Roku is wonderful. I own four (two are loaned out). It has more supported content than Apple TV, a thoughtful interface, and is pretty easy to set up. Remote on the higher models is Bluetooth, but there is also an IR receiver for universals. I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime, so no dearth of content. The LT is $30 this weekend, if I recall correctly, but I'm not shopping so I don't know if it has analog out. The bigger models do, I paid $40 for my refurbished Roku 2 but they are usually $60ish. The oldest one I have (now on loan) ran every day for a couple of years. If you need local news or sports, you can dig up a new HDHomeRun device to do ATSC to the network. I don't have one, and haven't priced them recently. There is probably some way to do the same with Plex and a tuner card in your computer. Plex is good for local media streaming if you have a big library on the computer. I have a separate DVD and VHS player. When I bought the new TV, I calculated how much time the kids were watching TV and figured up the power utilization delta over a couple years, and added that to my TV budget. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Anyone here use steel seal or other such head gasket sealing product with success? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore)
Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Looks too nice to junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
But a thermostat can and does often come and go. Why not replace the thermostat first, or put a .45 shell in in as Jim suggests? That is the easiest, fastest and cheapest test, and the cheapest fix. A new thermostat (curt installed) does not equal a working thermostat. It's my understanding that they went away then came back, then Curt re-torqued bolts, then went away for awhile then came back. He then gave up on car and towed it to me 1.5 years later. Without doing anything to it, I drove it around town and local highway for a good five days and the car performed flawlessly until three days ago. So yes it's come and go problem. I can't see how a head issue could come and go. Again boggling! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Anyone here use steel seal or other such head gasket sealing product with success? Do you have a leaking headgasket or a bad thermostat? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1980 Mercedes 300TD wagon(parts/restore)
Rescue it. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Looks too nice to junk. ___ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
