Re: [MBZ] Lesjofor Springs

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
I thought they were OEM to Mercedes?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Anyone know anything about these guys?
 
 I ask because they sell a lot of springs, and are less expensive than MB by a 
 bit.
 
 I need to put a new set of rear springs on the S500 (W140) coupe, and I was 
 considering them as a supplier.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] New C450 (correction)

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
450?  or 45?  I think the C45 is the new smallish hot rod.  In any case 
it is a Cheap klasse


--R



On 4/6/15 10:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Sorry. It is a C450, not a G450.

As you might have guessed, I wasn't being terribly attentive when he told me 
this

Dan

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On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

So he has boatloads of cash to spend?  Will he be doing off-road bog-racing in 
Florida?  Or just be a poseur around town?  I see the occasional Social X-Ray 
from Kiawah driving one around here.

--R (who probably would like to have one too for no particular reason)




On 4/6/15 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Coworker is getting ready to or has ordered one of these. He's asking me all kinds of 
questions since I'm the Mercedes guy.

Granted, he's been doing plenty of research on his own but he asked me if 
anyone I knew had knowledge of or opinions about this model.

??

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] New C450 (correction)

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
I'm pretty sure he said C450.

I pay absolutely no attention to current stuff, so I have no idea myself.

Dan

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 On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 450?  or 45?  I think the C45 is the new smallish hot rod.  In any case it is 
 a Cheap klasse
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 4/6/15 10:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Sorry. It is a C450, not a G450.
 
 As you might have guessed, I wasn't being terribly attentive when he told me 
 this
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 So he has boatloads of cash to spend?  Will he be doing off-road bog-racing 
 in Florida?  Or just be a poseur around town?  I see the occasional Social 
 X-Ray from Kiawah driving one around here.
 
 --R (who probably would like to have one too for no particular reason)
 
 
 
 On 4/6/15 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Coworker is getting ready to or has ordered one of these. He's asking me 
 all kinds of questions since I'm the Mercedes guy.
 
 Granted, he's been doing plenty of research on his own but he asked me if 
 anyone I knew had knowledge of or opinions about this model.
 
 ??
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas

Interesting, that is where we bought my wife's ML 5 weeks ago.

--R



On 4/6/15 11:28 AM, David Bruckmann wrote:

I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115 and 
108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list price (a bit 
like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's normally way above 
list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and then order 
conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides instant 
confirmation of pricing.

I basically don't buy aftermarket stuff any more because the price difference 
is minimal in most cases and quality has become so sketchy.



John Ingram wrote:

Hello everyone,
I haven?t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went out 
of business I don?t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 240D?
Thank you,
John I.
83 240D  310K

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist humor for the day

2015-04-06 Thread G Mann
I'd read the ad a second time, but I'm late for my court ordered anger
management class.. Damn that makes me mad...  :))

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Sounds like a scam.

 RB


 On 06/04/2015 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 A little anger there, no?

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
 wrote:

  http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4965384076.html

 I bought my daughter this new Malibu, but my evil ex bought a AMG to
 upstage
 me...

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Re: [MBZ] Lesjofor Springs

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Could be, I don't know. That's why I was asking. Seems sort of silly to pay the 
dealer for one for what I could get two from them for

Dan

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 On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:17 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I thought they were OEM to Mercedes?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Anyone know anything about these guys?
 
 I ask because they sell a lot of springs, and are less expensive than MB by 
 a bit.
 
 I need to put a new set of rear springs on the S500 (W140) coupe, and I was 
 considering them as a supplier.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] New C450 (correction)

2015-04-06 Thread Curly McLain

Sorry. It is a C450, not a G450.

As you might have guessed, I wasn't being terribly attentive when he 
told me this


Dan


I thought there was at least a letter missing...


I saw what appeared to be a shiny new GLA (black) in the bank parking 
lot today.  I couldn't quite figure it out.  It is sort of a small 
car, sort of an SUV, because it has big tars, and sort of some other 
things that are not really apparent.


At least the GLK looks sorta like a toada RAV, that is in the same 
market segment.  The GLA doesn't seem to do anything well, except may 
transport 1 or 2 people, a a smart car can do that.  (or one of the 
japanese square box things)


Now view again that video about Jay Leno's 300SL and listen to his 
comments.  That car was made to do a job, and did it well.


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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I ould do without the condescension.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andrew,

 I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.

 It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment. It
 is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to you.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  They justify it by assuming every perp is packing heat, since the NRA has
  browbeaten our pusillanimous legislators into abandoning any notion of
  sensible gun control..
 
  A homeowner in Fairfax, VA was gunned down in broad daylight buy a cop
  while standing in his front door during a confrontation with cops.  He
 was
  unarmed, but the cops knew that his house was packed with all sorts of
  weaponry and could even see the guns  through the door.  The cop that
 shot
  the guy claims he saw him reach for his belt area...  Interesting case.
 
 
  On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   So if a cop attacks someone and that person is in imminent danger of
  being
   incapacitated by the cop, then does the victim have re right to use
  deadly
   force against the cop?
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
 gf...@dslnorthwest.net
   wrote:
   
If an armed LE officer is attacked by someone, and is in imminent
  danger
   of
being incapacitated by the attacker (as with a taser or OC spray,)
 his
training is to use deadly force in that situation.
   
Greg
   
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
   Andrew
Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated
 at
   FLAPS
   
I would speculate the increase in cop shooting incidents is
 correlated
   with
the rise in gun ownership and the ease with which anyone can now
  purchase
some very lethal weaponry.  Rather than ask questions, cops just
 shoot
   under
the assumption that the suspect is or could be heavily armed.
   
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
   
Dint wanna ride the lightning after the cop tried to stop him, tried
to get cop's Taser, got a 9mm lead injection instead.
   
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150404/PC16/150409635/1177
   
Kleb could probably pick up the Benz cheap, and Wilton could get the
rims, yo.
   
--R
   
   
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread fmiser
 John wrote:
 
 I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since
 Rusty went out of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do
 you get parts for a 240D? Thank you, John I.

This is a topic more dangerous than an oil thread - or even a
firearm thread.

Some people seem to think the personal and actions of a vendor are
irrelevant to a business transaction so long as the vendor has a
good price or knows a bit about parts.  These people seem to be
comfortable dealing with Gary.

I don't want to be abused by a vendor, and I think that supporting a
vendor is a endorsement of their practices.  That is why I - and at
least a few others -  won't deal with Gary.  His reputation is well
established.

I have purchased some parts from MercedesSource.com.  I had a
trouble with a part and they _really_ stood tall and made it right
for me.

Autohaus has the parts - but it's up to _you_ to be sure it's not
cheap junk like Uro.

If you have part numbers, any FLAPS that's linked with WorldPac
should be able to get you most of the stuff Rusty could - but
without Rusty's inside connections and storehouse of helpful
knowledge.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread OK Don
I'm impressed by the civil tone of the answers to the question, given the
past history of this group. We must be growing up.

An ATTAOY to everyone!


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:43 PM, fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  John wrote:
 
  I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since
  Rusty went out of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do
  you get parts for a 240D? Thank you, John I.

 This is a topic more dangerous than an oil thread - or even a
 firearm thread.

 Some people seem to think the personal and actions of a vendor are
 irrelevant to a business transaction so long as the vendor has a
 good price or knows a bit about parts.




-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Curly McLain
It depends on what you need.  There is no longer a one call source 
like Rusty was.  AutohausAZ.com has some things, some I buy from 
rockauto.com  With both of these and any online source, you need to 
make sure you are getting OEM parts or OE parts.  Even them some 
products are made in asia and are inferior.  Some Bosch products 
being a notable example. (spark plugs and wires, but you don't need 
them)  Most folks have dumped Bosch injector nozzles in favor of 
Monarch


FLAPS have some items, but again you need to be careful of the source.

There are dealers that offer decent discounts, and if you want OE, 
they are generally a safer bet.  The better ones advertise in the 
Star.  If you want names and phone numbers, let me know and I will 
look them up for you.


For keys, the dealer is the best place.

For filters and such where you can specify the manufacturer and part 
number, autohaus AZ generally beat other prices, except maybe 
rockauto.


For used parts: car-part.com is good for locating who around has a 
240D or 123, and it can be used to determine interchangeability in 
many cases.  (see what they list as interchangeable)


Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.  I 
don't buy there.


You can also post your needs here, and sometimes someone has what you 
need, or at least will suggest where to buy.




Hello everyone,
I haven't needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since 
Rusty went out of business I don't know who to call.  Where do you 
get parts for a 240D? 
Thank you,

John I.
83 240D  310K


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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
The AP that used to be in Georgetown was THE pickup place for chicks 
back in the day.  I'm sure Andrew knows about it.   It's a Whole Foods 
now, make of that what you might...


--R (Hey, baby, wanna squeeze these lemons?)



On 4/6/15 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Or he could hang out in the produce department at the local grocery store

Dan Vegetables are sensuous

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On Apr 6, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than some 
Asian SUV.
If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.

RB



On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.

Andrew
1983 300TD
1985 300TD
Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
at all


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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Curly McLain

Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.

Andrew
1983 300TD
1985 300TD
Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
at all


Maybe the problem is not the car, but the driver.

(ducking behind a wall before objects are thrown)

Drive it to Amelia Island car show

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Re: [MBZ] Lesjofor Springs

2015-04-06 Thread Tom Savage
On Apr 6, 2015 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Anyone know anything about these guys?

 I ask because they sell a lot of springs, and are less expensive than MB
by a bit.

 I need to put a new set of rear springs on the S500 (W140) coupe, and I
was considering them as a supplier.

FWIW, I put a set on the front of my W123 way back when. They did the job
and the ride height was spot on when I was done.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] OT: non-Mercedes parking question

2015-04-06 Thread Tim Crone
On Apr 3, 2015 8:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Confed fag on the antenna probably get more attention.  ;)

You must have forgotten I'm in Chapel Hill; I'm trying to differentiate,
not blend in more. :)

 - Original Message - From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com

 5.  Mount a yakima rack  on top with 6 bicycles that you never take down.

Again, that would just blend in...

 8.  Same as 7 only use an old 8' ham radio car antenna on the big spring.

Oh, now that is brilliant.  Maybe I could attach a big fat cigar to the top.

I looked at the Hyundai line, but a primary requirement is that two tall
children and a small child fit concurrently.  The Accord and the Camry have
almost 38 of rear legroom (obviously minus my legroom), the Hyundai is
much shorter.  I just don't have time to keep the maintain the SDL as a
daily driver (though it's getting along, spent a little time last weekend
and the weather has definitely turned).

Thanks for all the suggestions!

-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than 
some Asian SUV.

If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.

RB


On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.

Andrew
1983 300TD
1985 300TD
Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
at all

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Could some pass the Grey Poupon, please?

Dan

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On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

wrote:

Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

wrote:

You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a

vintage

Mercedes Diesel.

RB



On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:


On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I looked up babe magnet.

At the end was the antonym:
Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 

astrasfo...@gmail.com

wrote:

I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
antonym:
Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon


  You sure you want antonym and not synonym?


RB





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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Or he could hang out in the produce department at the local grocery store

Dan Vegetables are sensuous

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
 Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
 Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than some 
 Asian SUV.
 If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.
 
 RB
 
 
 On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.
 
 Andrew
 1983 300TD
 1985 300TD
 Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
 at all
 
 

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[MBZ] om617.952 head

2015-04-06 Thread Karl Wittnebel
Looking for a rebuildable core or a rebuilt head.

85 wagon
On Apr 2, 2015 4:57 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 This afternoon a salesman stopped in.  After he left, he came back in and
 asked whose Mercedes was outside.  I told him it was mine.  He said he
 thought that type was the best looking Mercedes, and that he does not like
 the new ones (fugly)   I agreed and he started talking about his 93 300D
 2.5  He bought it nearly new and now his daughter is driving it in CO.  It
 has 400k miles on it.  It sounds like it is midnight blue.  Not many 124 in
 dark blue colors.  It sounds like a nice car.   He is considering taking it
 back and driving it again.  I don't blame him.

 Even my old rusty SDL is attractive!  Especially compared to the prastic
 cars made in the past 25-30 years.  Our little old diesels club is
 worldwide.   I generally hide the SDL or relegate it to the back part of
 the lot when I know visitors are coming.  Maybe I don't need to.   I
 figgered it looks better at 30 to 100 yards.

 It is kinda like a few years ago when Werner Fehlauer and a bunch of MBCA
 folks stopped in town overnight on the way west.  When I was looking for
 them, I saw a blue 123 wagon and started talking to the guy.  It turned out
 to be LutherG's dad, not on the MBCA drive.  BTW, Werner was driving a
 droolworthy 300D 2.5 also.

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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas

Condensation only happens when you're cool!

--R

On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I ould do without the condescension.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com  wrote:


Andrew,

I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.

It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment. It
is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to you.



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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread G Mann
Andrew,

I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.

It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment. It
is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to you.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 They justify it by assuming every perp is packing heat, since the NRA has
 browbeaten our pusillanimous legislators into abandoning any notion of
 sensible gun control..

 A homeowner in Fairfax, VA was gunned down in broad daylight buy a cop
 while standing in his front door during a confrontation with cops.  He was
 unarmed, but the cops knew that his house was packed with all sorts of
 weaponry and could even see the guns  through the door.  The cop that shot
 the guy claims he saw him reach for his belt area...  Interesting case.


 On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

  So if a cop attacks someone and that person is in imminent danger of
 being
  incapacitated by the cop, then does the victim have re right to use
 deadly
  force against the cop?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
  wrote:
  
   If an armed LE officer is attacked by someone, and is in imminent
 danger
  of
   being incapacitated by the attacker (as with a taser or OC spray,) his
   training is to use deadly force in that situation.
  
   Greg
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
  Andrew
   Strasfogel
   Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:14 AM
   To: Mercedes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at
  FLAPS
  
   I would speculate the increase in cop shooting incidents is correlated
  with
   the rise in gun ownership and the ease with which anyone can now
 purchase
   some very lethal weaponry.  Rather than ask questions, cops just shoot
  under
   the assumption that the suspect is or could be heavily armed.
  
   On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas 
   richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
  
   Dint wanna ride the lightning after the cop tried to stop him, tried
   to get cop's Taser, got a 9mm lead injection instead.
  
   http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150404/PC16/150409635/1177
  
   Kleb could probably pick up the Benz cheap, and Wilton could get the
   rims, yo.
  
   --R
  
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

What is wrong with pretty???

RB


On 06/04/2015 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a vintage
Mercedes Diesel.

RB


On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:

  On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I looked up babe magnet.

At the end was the antonym:
Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
Sent from my iPhone

   On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

wrote:

I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
antonym:
Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon


   You sure you want antonym and not synonym?


RB





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Re: [MBZ] om617.952 head

2015-04-06 Thread Curly McLain

Looking for a rebuildable core or a rebuilt head.

85 wagon


If nobody here offers one, try car-part.com

Wagon heads are hard to find here in the US of A.  You might try 
looking on ebay.de or other european sources.  SLS was only  on 
wagons in the US, but was offered on a lot of models in other 
countries.


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Re: [MBZ] Lesjofor Springs

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks, Tom.  They looked OK and may possibly be the OE supplier, I was just 
looking for some validation...

Dan


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 FWIW, I put a set on the front of my W123 way back when. They did the job
 and the ride height was spot on when I was done.
 
 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Curly has hit it pretty much dead on. While I have bought from Dr. Fatty, I 
have found time over time that I can almost always get (the same) things 
cheaper elsewhere. While I do like to support small business, when it's a 
20%-30% difference or more, my wallet does the talking.

A good example was a new Nippondenso AC compressor I just bought. Compressor, a 
set of O rings and a Behr receiver dryer were under $400 shipped from 
AutohausAZ. Dr. Fatty was more like $480 without the O rings.

Between my dealer, AutohausAZ, FLAPS and others I have pretty much found 
everything I need at the price point and quality I desire.  As Curly has 
indicated, you just have to be an informed shopper and buy accordingly. The 
days of a one stop shopping experience when it comes to parts is pretty much 
gone as far as I'm concerned.

Here's a surprise: a wiper refill for the passenger side on the 95 S500 from 
the dealer is $12. Aftermarket junk would be close to that if you could find 
the correct refill.

Dan

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 On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It depends on what you need.  There is no longer a one call source like Rusty 
 was.  AutohausAZ.com has some things, some I buy from rockauto.com  With both 
 of these and any online source, you need to make sure you are getting OEM 
 parts or OE parts.  Even them some products are made in asia and are 
 inferior.  Some Bosch products being a notable example. (spark plugs and 
 wires, but you don't need them)  Most folks have dumped Bosch injector 
 nozzles in favor of Monarch
 
 FLAPS have some items, but again you need to be careful of the source.
 
 There are dealers that offer decent discounts, and if you want OE, they are 
 generally a safer bet.  The better ones advertise in the Star.  If you want 
 names and phone numbers, let me know and I will look them up for you.
 
 For keys, the dealer is the best place.
 
 For filters and such where you can specify the manufacturer and part number, 
 autohaus AZ generally beat other prices, except maybe rockauto.
 
 For used parts: car-part.com is good for locating who around has a 240D or 
 123, and it can be used to determine interchangeability in many cases.  (see 
 what they list as interchangeable)
 
 Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.  I don't 
 buy there.
 
 You can also post your needs here, and sometimes someone has what you need, 
 or at least will suggest where to buy.
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 I haven't needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went 
 out of business I don't know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 
 240D? Thank you,
 John I.
 83 240D  310K
 
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Re: [MBZ] om617.952 head

2015-04-06 Thread Max Dillon
Try macj...@aol.com (Rick), also car-part.com.

Wagon head is, of course, unique with the SLS pump, but there may be a few SD 
cars with the SLS option and the same head.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 6, 2015 4:06:34 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking for a rebuildable core or a rebuilt head.

85 wagon
On Apr 2, 2015 4:57 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 This afternoon a salesman stopped in.  After he left, he came back in
and
 asked whose Mercedes was outside.  I told him it was mine.  He said
he
 thought that type was the best looking Mercedes, and that he does not
like
 the new ones (fugly)   I agreed and he started talking about his 93
300D
 2.5  He bought it nearly new and now his daughter is driving it in
CO.  It
 has 400k miles on it.  It sounds like it is midnight blue.  Not many
124 in
 dark blue colors.  It sounds like a nice car.   He is considering
taking it
 back and driving it again.  I don't blame him.

 Even my old rusty SDL is attractive!  Especially compared to the
prastic
 cars made in the past 25-30 years.  Our little old diesels club is
 worldwide.   I generally hide the SDL or relegate it to the back part
of
 the lot when I know visitors are coming.  Maybe I don't need to.   I
 figgered it looks better at 30 to 100 yards.

 It is kinda like a few years ago when Werner Fehlauer and a bunch of
MBCA
 folks stopped in town overnight on the way west.  When I was looking
for
 them, I saw a blue 123 wagon and started talking to the guy.  It
turned out
 to be LutherG's dad, not on the MBCA drive.  BTW, Werner was driving
a
 droolworthy 300D 2.5 also.

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist humor for the day

2015-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Is this really appropriate for this list?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:31 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd read the ad a second time, but I'm late for my court ordered anger
 management class.. Damn that makes me mad...  :))
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 Sounds like a scam.
 
 RB
 
 
 On 06/04/2015 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
 A little anger there, no?
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
 wrote:
 
 http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4965384076.html
 
 I bought my daughter this new Malibu, but my evil ex bought a AMG to
 upstage
 me...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread G Mann
So it is not condescending to always denigrate responsible gun owners or
NRA members, then?

Just so I know your rules of play... trying to be respectful here.

Grant...

5th generation Life Member NRA [Endowment], Member USCCA,  Member,
Daughters of American Revolution, Member, Sons of the Confederacy, [Yes,
family members served in both] Veteran, Business Owner. Land Owner, Voter.
Mercedes Owner
[Just so you know where I'm coming from]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I ould do without the condescension.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Andrew,
 
  I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.
 
  It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment. It
  is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to
 you.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   They justify it by assuming every perp is packing heat, since the NRA
 has
   browbeaten our pusillanimous legislators into abandoning any notion of
   sensible gun control..
  
   A homeowner in Fairfax, VA was gunned down in broad daylight buy a cop
   while standing in his front door during a confrontation with cops.  He
  was
   unarmed, but the cops knew that his house was packed with all sorts of
   weaponry and could even see the guns  through the door.  The cop that
  shot
   the guy claims he saw him reach for his belt area...  Interesting case.
  
  
   On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
So if a cop attacks someone and that person is in imminent danger of
   being
incapacitated by the cop, then does the victim have re right to use
   deadly
force against the cop?
   
Sent from my iPhone
   
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
  gf...@dslnorthwest.net
wrote:

 If an armed LE officer is attacked by someone, and is in imminent
   danger
of
 being incapacitated by the attacker (as with a taser or OC spray,)
  his
 training is to use deadly force in that situation.

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew
 Strasfogel
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:14 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated
  at
FLAPS

 I would speculate the increase in cop shooting incidents is
  correlated
with
 the rise in gun ownership and the ease with which anyone can now
   purchase
 some very lethal weaponry.  Rather than ask questions, cops just
  shoot
under
 the assumption that the suspect is or could be heavily armed.

 On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Dint wanna ride the lightning after the cop tried to stop him,
 tried
 to get cop's Taser, got a 9mm lead injection instead.


 http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150404/PC16/150409635/1177

 Kleb could probably pick up the Benz cheap, and Wilton could get
 the
 rims, yo.

 --R




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Re: [MBZ] OT: non-Mercedes parking question

2015-04-06 Thread Curly McLain
9.  OK, #5, but in place of bikes, mount a big fiberglass shoe up 
there, with seats for small chilluns, as in the old lady who lived in 
a shoe...


10.  #5 again, but mount a ATV up there.

the back seat of a sonata was way better than the back seat of a 
volga (vulgar) S40, S70 or something like that.


11. buy a 600 lang.  More room than a SDL

12.  Buy an IH Limo 
http://www.ihpartsamerica.com/forums/attachments/ih-vehicles-sale/9721d1271700248-1973-4x4-10-door-travelall-1970-travelall-going-colo.jpg







On Apr 3, 2015 8:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Confed fag on the antenna probably get more attention.  ;)


You must have forgotten I'm in Chapel Hill; I'm trying to differentiate,
not blend in more. :)


 - Original Message - From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com



 5.  Mount a yakima rack  on top with 6 bicycles that you never take down.


Again, that would just blend in...


 8.  Same as 7 only use an old 8' ham radio car antenna on the big spring.


Oh, now that is brilliant.  Maybe I could attach a big fat cigar to the top.

I looked at the Hyundai line, but a primary requirement is that two tall
children and a small child fit concurrently.  The Accord and the Camry have
almost 38 of rear legroom (obviously minus my legroom), the Hyundai is
much shorter.  I just don't have time to keep the maintain the SDL as a
daily driver (though it's getting along, spent a little time last weekend
and the weather has definitely turned).

Thanks for all the suggestions!

-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: non-Mercedes parking question

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell
I may have told this story before so if it sounds familiar, hit the 
delete key.

Not sure if it is a true story or just a joke with a punch line?

In any event, it goes like this. . .

A woman with a cart full of groceries and a couple of small children is 
standing in a shopping centre parking lot looking lost.

A fellow shopper asks if he can assist her in some way.
She says she cannot recall where she parked her car.
He offers to help her locate the car and asks what kind of car and what 
color it is.
She says it is either a Ford or a Chevy and it is either blue or green 
(- typical woman?)

But, she tells him, the driver's side front hubcap is missing.
So, he goes up and down the rows until he finds a blue Ford with a 
missing left front hubcap and it turns out to be her car.


The really odd thing about it all, was that there was a bright red canoe 
strapped on the roof, that she had forgotten all about.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Towards the end, it seemed like Rusty was going the way of others in that he 
was selling branded products that were not so legit.  I'm not suggesting that 
he was somehow complicit by any means, but one example I had was buying what 
were supposed to be real Lemforder engine mounts for my S500 coupe that later 
turned out to be what I suspect was Chinese stuff in a Lemforder box.  They 
compressed within a year of being in service.  An MB mount would still be good 
today.

Lesson learned.

Dan


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 My dealings with Rusty were not all good (or, maybe, there were some things 
 that could have been much better and might have been if I had pushed it 
 harder), though I bought a fair amount of stuff from him. Like every thing 
 else I guess, caveat emptor
 
 --R
 
 
 On 4/6/15 5:44 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 And free insults.
 His attitude truly leaves me wondering if I can trust him, and thus, I have 
 not done business with him.
 I miss Rusty.
 
 RB
 
 On 06/04/2015 4:27 PM, Michael Esh wrote:
 Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times with 
 free shipping.
 
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
You mean the Social Safeway?  Still there.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 The AP that used to be in Georgetown was THE pickup place for chicks back
 in the day.  I'm sure Andrew knows about it.   It's a Whole Foods now, make
 of that what you might...

 --R (Hey, baby, wanna squeeze these lemons?)




 On 4/6/15 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Or he could hang out in the produce department at the local grocery
 store

 Dan Vegetables are sensuous

 Sent from my iPad

  On Apr 6, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
 Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
 Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than
 some Asian SUV.
 If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.

 RB


  On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.

 Andrew
 1983 300TD
 1985 300TD
 Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
 at all

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
You guys shouldn't discount the Classic Center. You get 15-20% off with MBCA 
discount and you are guaranteed to get quality. No BS.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Curly wrote:
 Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.
 
 The abuse is totally classic and expected.  I like it, I expect it.
 Too bad banned is dead.
 mao
 
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[MBZ] chick magnets

2015-04-06 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
All of my 123 cars are chick magnets … at least the 25 to 40 year old hipster 
chicks.

They dig the smell of WVO and the grungy look of things

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
There is a shipping charge but nothing out of the ordinary. You almost always 
get the part in two days. Autohausaz 5-7.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Be careful of the shipping charges - ask first.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 You guys shouldn't discount the Classic Center. You get 15-20% off with
 MBCA discount and you are guaranteed to get quality. No BS.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Curly wrote:
 Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.
 
 The abuse is totally classic and expected.  I like it, I expect it.
 Too bad banned is dead.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Michael Esh
Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times with free 
shipping. 

Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dave, thanks for that link to MBnorthlake.
 
 I just compared the price for the right side tie rod assembly for my '87
 wagon.  Dealer in Atlanta online price is $75, local stealership wants
 101.25, NorthLake price: $52.50!
 
 I needed an alignment last week after I replaced the inner bushings on the
 lower control arms, the shop (Gerald's Tires) couldn't get the right side
 tie-rods to adjust (read: they didn't want to muck about with rusty parts,
 I should have spent some time loosening all that up before I took the car
 in).  Local big parts place wanted $300 for just the tie rod ends, local
 dealer had the complete assembly in stock (!) and quoted the price as $75
 over the phone.  When I showed up in person they tried to charge me $101.25
 and declared they no longer offer a MBCA discount.  I said I had been
 quoted $75 over the phone and that was also the online price offered by
 other dealerships, and then I got I'll have to talk to the manager about
 that and then they caved and gave me the special price.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:28 AM, David Bruckmann 
 bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:
 
 I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115
 and 108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list
 price (a bit like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's
 normally way above list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and
 then order conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides
 instant confirmation of pricing.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS; SUMMERS WITH RICHARD

2015-04-06 Thread Mountain Man
WILTON wrote:
 Just finished putting SONDY TALES together.  'Getting some printed soon.

Yabbut...
Your audience is sooo much larger online.
Another one to consider might be storycorps where stories are
collected for posterity.  Some of the stories I have heard on NPR
shows are quite interesting like the WILTON tales.  ...eh... forget
storycorps, they seem to be pandering to the current entitlement
dujour, but I'm sure I have heard some interesting tales there not
unlike Sondy  Country
Thanks again for letting us read Sondy and Country Boy tales.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

And free insults.
His attitude truly leaves me wondering if I can trust him, and thus, I 
have not done business with him.

I miss Rusty.

RB

On 06/04/2015 4:27 PM, Michael Esh wrote:

Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times with free 
shipping.

Michael E. Esh




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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Mountain Man
Curly wrote:
 Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.

The abuse is totally classic and expected.  I like it, I expect it.
Too bad banned is dead.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
No one responded to my hypothersis - it's much easier to attack me
personally.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Condensation only happens when you're cool!

 --R

 On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 I ould do without the condescension.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Andrew,
 
 I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.
 
 It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment.
 It
 is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to
 you.



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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..


I think Clay has some cute little chicks that would love to sit in your lap 
while you drive your 300TD.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Dan Penoff wrote:


A good example was a new Nippondenso AC compressor I just bought. Compressor, a 
set of O rings and a Behr receiver dryer were under $400 shipped from 
AutohausAZ. Dr. Fatty was more like $480 without the O rings.


Like this?
http://www.amazon.com/DENSO-471-1293-A-C-Compressor/dp/B004SG564W

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Be careful of the shipping charges - ask first.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You guys shouldn't discount the Classic Center. You get 15-20% off with
 MBCA discount and you are guaranteed to get quality. No BS.

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Curly wrote:
  Dr. Fatty has been mentioned.  If you like abuse, you can try him.
 
  The abuse is totally classic and expected.  I like it, I expect it.
  Too bad banned is dead.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
My dealings with Rusty were not all good (or, maybe, there were some 
things that could have been much better and might have been if I had 
pushed it harder), though I bought a fair amount of stuff from him. Like 
every thing else I guess, caveat emptor


--R


On 4/6/15 5:44 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

And free insults.
His attitude truly leaves me wondering if I can trust him, and thus, I 
have not done business with him.

I miss Rusty.

RB

On 06/04/2015 4:27 PM, Michael Esh wrote:
Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times 
with free shipping.


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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Mountain Man
Jon wrote:
 Gary is good.  If you need real MB parts, the classic center is great.

Yes, Gary is the best - always has been the best from day-one of
okiebenz and richarde days.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
While I have come to his defense in the past, I have found that over the last 
year or so he's become less and less responsive to my inquiries.  My last 
effort to patronize him was for the AC compressor that described earlier, and 
when it was clear that he would be far more expensive for less stuff, it didn't 
make sense to buy from him.  At 20% more for less stuff from the same supplier, 
there is no incentive to buy from him.  I bear him no ill will, there's just no 
motivation to pay more, and sometimes substantially more, for the same thing I 
can get from others for less.

With this in mind, I'm pretty much sticking to the list of places in this 
thread.  In a lot of cases I am just plugging in the MB part number to Google 
and seeing what comes back.  For example, I just bought a pair of rear springs 
for the S500 coupe a few minutes ago on eBay.  For the price of one spring from 
Mercedes I got two from a highly rated supplier in Miami who will have them on 
my doorstep by Friday.  A Lesjofor spring is a Lesjofor spring, no matter who 
it comes from.

AutohausAZ seems to be very popular on BenzWorld, but as Curly stated earlier 
you have to be careful, as they sell URO crap right along side everything else. 
 They are really good on grossly overpriced Mercedes stuff, such as O-rings for 
oiler tubes on the M119 - $2.00+/ea from the dealer, something like $0.38/ea 
from AutohausAZ using the same OEM supplier.

Otherwise, it's the dealer, especially for suspension and safety related parts.

Dan


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 And free insults.
 His attitude truly leaves me wondering if I can trust him, and thus, I have 
 not done business with him.
 I miss Rusty.
 
 RB
 
 On 06/04/2015 4:27 PM, Michael Esh wrote:
 Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times with 
 free shipping.
 
 Michael E. Esh
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: non-Mercedes parking question

2015-04-06 Thread WILTON
Well, I had become unsure if were fully into Chapel Hill or close enough 
to Durham to consider it almost Durham, also.  ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us

To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: non-Mercedes parking question



On Apr 3, 2015 8:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Confed fag on the antenna probably get more attention.  ;)


You must have forgotten I'm in Chapel Hill; I'm trying to differentiate,
not blend in more. :)


- Original Message - From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com


5.  Mount a yakima rack  on top with 6 bicycles that you never take 
down.


Again, that would just blend in...

8.  Same as 7 only use an old 8' ham radio car antenna on the big 
spring.


Oh, now that is brilliant.  Maybe I could attach a big fat cigar to the 
top.


I looked at the Hyundai line, but a primary requirement is that two tall
children and a small child fit concurrently.  The Accord and the Camry 
have

almost 38 of rear legroom (obviously minus my legroom), the Hyundai is
much shorter.  I just don't have time to keep the maintain the SDL as a
daily driver (though it's getting along, spent a little time last weekend
and the weather has definitely turned).

Thanks for all the suggestions!

-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
Some years ago, up here in Maine, a cop responded to a domestic dispute. The 
man was an invalid in a wheelchair paralyzed from waist down. The invalid 
wielded a knife at the cop who then proceeded to shoot him dead. Really?? Now 
how was that necessary? This stuff happens all too often and is disgusting.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, let me try this one more time.
 
 Pretend you're Law Enforcement responding to a report of a domestic
 dispute.  If the state/local laws place no (or very loose) restrictions on
 gun rights, wouldn't/shouldn't you assume there are guns (firearms, if you
 prefer) inside the house, and that since tempers are hot one or both
 occupants might be tempted to grab a weapon in response to your knock on
 the door.  Knowing this possibility, wouldn't you take preemptive steps to
 defend yourself, which might lead you to be a little trigger happy?  In
 other words, accidentally shoot an unarmed civilian?
 
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:51 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I fear a cheap Mercedes - BTDT.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't fear any Mercedes. Does that count in this discussion?
 
 
 
 --
 OK Don
 
 NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
 
 *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
 our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
 
 There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.
 
 WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
OK, let me try this one more time.

Pretend you're Law Enforcement responding to a report of a domestic
dispute.  If the state/local laws place no (or very loose) restrictions on
gun rights, wouldn't/shouldn't you assume there are guns (firearms, if you
prefer) inside the house, and that since tempers are hot one or both
occupants might be tempted to grab a weapon in response to your knock on
the door.  Knowing this possibility, wouldn't you take preemptive steps to
defend yourself, which might lead you to be a little trigger happy?  In
other words, accidentally shoot an unarmed civilian?



On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:51 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I fear a cheap Mercedes - BTDT.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I don't fear any Mercedes. Does that count in this discussion?
 



 --
 OK Don

 NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

 *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
 our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

 There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.

 WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dwight Giles
John I call himhe usually calls me right back. I have not comparrd his
prices as i don't have time to do that. But I have been satisfied with the
patz  service.
On Apr 6, 2015 12:07 PM, John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net wrote:

 Thank you Mitch and Dwight.
 JI

  Call or email Dr Fatty?
  http://www.buyeuroparts.com
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
Anyone with half a brain should have hoplophobia. If you don't treat a gun with 
utmost respect and caution you are nothing but an idiot.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Please excuse my failure to communicate in your language.
 
 I'm a graduate of intense therapy which taught me the meaning of personal
 attack that apparently was not taught in a language which we share.
 
 The therapy was called boot camp followed by other sessions called
 advanced combat training and escape and evade survival school.
 Graduation exercises lasted for two tours in a hostile fire zone called
 Vietnam where I exercised my skills at avoiding personal attacks of
 various kinds followed by tours in other places of equal sensitivity.
 
 Somehow, what we have here is a failure to communicate.
 
 I do offer my apology for being out of touch with my sensitive feelings and
 failing to adequately communicate to you.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 No one responded to my hypothersis - it's much easier to attack me
 personally.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 Condensation only happens when you're cool!
 
 --R
 
 On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
 I ould do without the condescension.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.
 
 It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment.
 It
 is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to
 you.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread G Mann
Point well taken. Simply responding to Andrew.

I'm done.. this issues is done... far as I'm concerned..


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does this have with Mercedes? Sorry but I have to ask. That said i do
 appreciate your service but miss the point here.
 On Apr 6, 2015 8:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Please excuse my failure to communicate in your language.
 
  I'm a graduate of intense therapy which taught me the meaning of
 personal
  attack that apparently was not taught in a language which we share.
 
  The therapy was called boot camp followed by other sessions called
  advanced combat training and escape and evade survival school.
  Graduation exercises lasted for two tours in a hostile fire zone called
  Vietnam where I exercised my skills at avoiding personal attacks of
  various kinds followed by tours in other places of equal sensitivity.
 
  Somehow, what we have here is a failure to communicate.
 
  I do offer my apology for being out of touch with my sensitive feelings
 and
  failing to adequately communicate to you.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   No one responded to my hypothersis - it's much easier to attack me
   personally.
  
   On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
   richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
  
Condensation only happens when you're cool!
   
--R
   
On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
   
I ould do without the condescension.
   
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com  wrote:
   
 Andrew,

I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.

It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek
  treatment.
It
is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to
 happen
  to
you.
   
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Scott Ritchey
I found a media report on the incident Andrew cited, but  only after reading
through numerous (more recent) stories where a Fairfax homeowners used a
firearm to defend against armed burglars.  According to the account I read,
this was an obviously bad shoot, it sounded similar to the Erik Scott case.
I expect that cop/shooter will need a different line of work; he doesn't
appear to have the judgment to be a cop or to carry a gun.  But then my
confidence in the media report is limited.  I would be interested in the
outcome of the police shooting investigation on this one.   I'm glad he
wasn't an airline pilot.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Andrew Strasfogel
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:56 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at
FLAPS
 
 They justify it by assuming every perp is packing heat, since the NRA has
 browbeaten our pusillanimous legislators into abandoning any notion of
 sensible gun control..
 
 A homeowner in Fairfax, VA was gunned down in broad daylight buy a cop
 while standing in his front door during a confrontation with cops.  He was
 unarmed, but the cops knew that his house was packed with all sorts of
 weaponry and could even see the guns  through the door.  The cop that shot
 the guy claims he saw him reach for his belt area...  Interesting case.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
In which the fine print reads:

Note: Denso partners with other manufacturers to supply the parts your car was 
originally built with. This product is in a Denso package, however the part may 
have been manufactured by an independent Denso supplier.

These are all over the market and are not genuine OE Denso compressors.  Mine 
was.  I bought a new 100% Denso part, which is identical to what I could have 
gotten at the dealership for a few dollars more.

Dan




 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
 
 Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 A good example was a new Nippondenso AC compressor I just bought. 
 Compressor, a set of O rings and a Behr receiver dryer were under $400 
 shipped from AutohausAZ. Dr. Fatty was more like $480 without the O rings.
 
 Like this?
 http://www.amazon.com/DENSO-471-1293-A-C-Compressor/dp/B004SG564W
 
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just bought a couple of rebuilt compressor kits on ebay which includes 
the compressor, o rings, drier, and oil for about $170.  I have bought 
these before and they have worked fine.



On 4/6/2015 7:33 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dan Penoff wrote:

A good example was a new Nippondenso AC compressor I just bought. 
Compressor, a set of O rings and a Behr receiver dryer were under 
$400 shipped from AutohausAZ. Dr. Fatty was more like $480 without 
the O rings.


Like this?
http://www.amazon.com/DENSO-471-1293-A-C-Compressor/dp/B004SG564W

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Your choice.  I didn't want to roll the dice with something like this, 
especially since I was replacing the original compressor that came on the car.  
This one will be good for another 20 years...

I have the system down to 42F now.  I warn him not to get too close to the 
windshield in the event he might scratch it.

Dan

 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 I just bought a couple of rebuilt compressor kits on ebay which includes the 
 compressor, o rings, drier, and oil for about $170.  I have bought these 
 before and they have worked fine.
 


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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread G Mann
Please excuse my failure to communicate in your language.

I'm a graduate of intense therapy which taught me the meaning of personal
attack that apparently was not taught in a language which we share.

The therapy was called boot camp followed by other sessions called
advanced combat training and escape and evade survival school.
Graduation exercises lasted for two tours in a hostile fire zone called
Vietnam where I exercised my skills at avoiding personal attacks of
various kinds followed by tours in other places of equal sensitivity.

Somehow, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

I do offer my apology for being out of touch with my sensitive feelings and
failing to adequately communicate to you.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 No one responded to my hypothersis - it's much easier to attack me
 personally.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  Condensation only happens when you're cool!
 
  --R
 
  On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
  I ould do without the condescension.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
   Andrew,
  
  I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.
  
  It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek treatment.
  It
  is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen to
  you.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley


 On April 6, 2015 at 10:43 PM Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Intriguing...  Are they feathered by any chance?

BINGO.
In the absence of the wife who is in AK, Clay and son went to the feed store to
pick up 
chicks last month. Not to mention an old Benz that should have been named the
Ebola Fishbowl
if the name hadn't already been taken. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
That's what I like about the dealer.  I go out of my way to anticipate my needs 
and therefore always have them place my orders on a stock order.  This means it 
takes about 2-3 days to get the part to the dealership depending on what depot 
it's located at and when they place the order.  This gives the dealer more 
profit margin, as they get discounts on stock orders from MBUSA since they're 
not a rush or next day shipment.

When I need something in a hurry I can ask them to VOR (overnight) it so I have 
it the next morning and they don't mind doing it.  Parts on VOR do not get 
shipping discounts from MBUSA.

Dan



 On Apr 6, 2015, at 7:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 There is a shipping charge but nothing out of the ordinary. You almost always 
 get the part in two days. Autohausaz 5-7.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Dwight Giles
What does this have with Mercedes? Sorry but I have to ask. That said i do
appreciate your service but miss the point here.
On Apr 6, 2015 8:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please excuse my failure to communicate in your language.

 I'm a graduate of intense therapy which taught me the meaning of personal
 attack that apparently was not taught in a language which we share.

 The therapy was called boot camp followed by other sessions called
 advanced combat training and escape and evade survival school.
 Graduation exercises lasted for two tours in a hostile fire zone called
 Vietnam where I exercised my skills at avoiding personal attacks of
 various kinds followed by tours in other places of equal sensitivity.

 Somehow, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

 I do offer my apology for being out of touch with my sensitive feelings and
 failing to adequately communicate to you.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  No one responded to my hypothersis - it's much easier to attack me
  personally.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
  richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
   Condensation only happens when you're cool!
  
   --R
  
   On 4/6/15 3:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
  
   I ould do without the condescension.
  
   On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, G Manng2ma...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
Andrew,
   
   I would like to introduce you to hoplophobia.
   
   It appears you may have the symptoms and I urge you to seek
 treatment.
   It
   is, in some instances, terminal, and I wouldn't want that to happen
 to
   you.
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Intriguing...  Are they feathered by any chance?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:

 Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..


 I think Clay has some cute little chicks that would love to sit in your
 lap while you drive your 300TD.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley


 On April 6, 2015 at 11:33 PM Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 I found a media report on the incident Andrew cited, but  only after reading
 through numerous (more recent) stories where a Fairfax homeowners used a
 firearm to defend against armed burglars.  According to the account I read,
 this was an obviously bad shoot, it sounded similar to the Erik Scott case.
 I expect that cop/shooter will need a different line of work; he doesn't
 appear to have the judgment to be a cop or to carry a gun.  But then my
 confidence in the media report is limited.  I would be interested in the
 outcome of the police shooting investigation on this one.

Because self-excusing coverups are such good reading. 

Let's view the facts. The chick that was living with him broke up with him. 
He started tossing her stuff on the lawn to evict her. Just a civil matter here,
go hire yourself a lawyer, or better yet a moving and storage company to pick
your
stuff up. Instead she called the po-pos, who went to the home of a man who was
not
even suspected of the slightest criminal act and murdered him in broad daylight.


Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
The whole foods is a few blocks up. I lived between the two on Wisconsin Ave.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 The AP that used to be in Georgetown was THE pickup place for chicks back in 
 the day.  I'm sure Andrew knows about it.   It's a Whole Foods now, make of 
 that what you might...
 
 --R (Hey, baby, wanna squeeze these lemons?)
 
 
 
 On 4/6/15 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Or he could hang out in the produce department at the local grocery store
 
 Dan Vegetables are sensuous
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
 Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
 Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than some 
 Asian SUV.
 If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.
 
 RB
 
 
 On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.
 
 Andrew
 1983 300TD
 1985 300TD
 Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
 at all
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread dseretakis
I never picked up any chicks at that Safeway:) Well, I might have picked up my 
girlfriend there but we were already together for several years.

It was torn down and rebuilt into a multi-story job.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You mean the Social Safeway?  Still there.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 The AP that used to be in Georgetown was THE pickup place for chicks back
 in the day.  I'm sure Andrew knows about it.   It's a Whole Foods now, make
 of that what you might...
 
 --R (Hey, baby, wanna squeeze these lemons?)
 
 
 
 
 On 4/6/15 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 Or he could hang out in the produce department at the local grocery
 store
 
 Dan Vegetables are sensuous
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 You just need to find the chicks who need a man with a station wagon.
 Maybe the ones who buy antiques etc.
 Surely there are nice ladies who would rather ride in an MB wagon than
 some Asian SUV.
 If you do not think so, then it is time to swap a wagon for a Red SL.
 
 RB
 
 
 On 06/04/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.
 
 Andrew
 1983 300TD
 1985 300TD
 Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
 at all
 
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[MBZ] What's a low mileage facelifted W210 worth these days?

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4965359755.html

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Re: [MBZ] New G450

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
So he has boatloads of cash to spend?  Will he be doing off-road 
bog-racing in Florida?  Or just be a poseur around town?  I see the 
occasional Social X-Ray from Kiawah driving one around here.


--R (who probably would like to have one too for no particular reason)



On 4/6/15 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Coworker is getting ready to or has ordered one of these. He's asking me all kinds of 
questions since I'm the Mercedes guy.

Granted, he's been doing plenty of research on his own but he asked me if 
anyone I knew had knowledge of or opinions about this model.

??

Thanks,

Dan

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[MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread John Ingram
Hello everyone,
I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went out 
of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 240D?  
Thank you,
John I.
83 240D  310K
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Re: [MBZ] THIS is what Poos needs

2015-04-06 Thread WILTON
Fly-by-night roof (Irish Travellers) silver and UGLY wheels; 'gonna hafta 
let it go.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] THIS is what Poos needs


the 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class is visually sleeker and, more 
controversially, bolder thanks to its engorged wheel arches.


--R

On 4/5/15 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/you-can-buy-a-200-mph-mercedes-s-class-for-the-price-o-1695814572



The crack is strong in this one...
...If you want 90k for your 'supercar', shouldn't you replace that gaping 
hole in the bonnet with a star before taking the pics?


http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4918554974.html

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[MBZ] New G450

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Coworker is getting ready to or has ordered one of these. He's asking me all 
kinds of questions since I'm the Mercedes guy.

Granted, he's been doing plenty of research on his own but he asked me if 
anyone I knew had knowledge of or opinions about this model.

??

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

2015-04-06 Thread LarryT
Yep - It's been happening for  few weeks now.   I assumed it was 
becoming SOP.  ;-)  OTOH, it is very easy to become re-instated - click 
the link, confirm and done.  For a day or 2 at least.


LarryT

On 4/5/2015 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Looks like Comcast is bouncing mail from Okiebenz for some reason.  I’ve 
alerted Kaleb, but be aware that if you use Comcast as an ISP your mail form 
the list may be spotty or sporadic.

Dan
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[MBZ] Craigslist humor for the day

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4965384076.html

I bought my daughter this new Malibu, but my evil ex bought a AMG to upstage
me...

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Re: [MBZ] THIS is what Poos needs

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
the 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class is visually sleeker and, more 
controversially, bolder thanks to its engorged wheel arches.


--R

On 4/5/15 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/you-can-buy-a-200-mph-mercedes-s-class-for-the-price-o-1695814572 



The crack is strong in this one...
...If you want 90k for your 'supercar', shouldn't you replace that 
gaping hole in the bonnet with a star before taking the pics?


http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4918554974.html

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
I got a bounce message this morning, or last night, it is not clear.  
Not sure why or if responding fixed it.


--R


On 4/6/15 9:07 AM, LarryT wrote:
Yep - It's been happening for  few weeks now.   I assumed it was 
becoming SOP.  ;-)  OTOH, it is very easy to become re-instated - 
click the link, confirm and done.  For a day or 2 at least.


LarryT

On 4/5/2015 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Looks like Comcast is bouncing mail from Okiebenz for some reason.  
I’ve alerted Kaleb, but be aware that if you use Comcast as an ISP 
your mail form the list may be spotty or sporadic.


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Re: [MBZ] New C450 (correction)

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff

Sorry. It is a C450, not a G450.

As you might have guessed, I wasn't being terribly attentive when he told me 
this

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 So he has boatloads of cash to spend?  Will he be doing off-road bog-racing 
 in Florida?  Or just be a poseur around town?  I see the occasional Social 
 X-Ray from Kiawah driving one around here.
 
 --R (who probably would like to have one too for no particular reason)
 
 
 
 On 4/6/15 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Coworker is getting ready to or has ordered one of these. He's asking me all 
 kinds of questions since I'm the Mercedes guy.
 
 Granted, he's been doing plenty of research on his own but he asked me if 
 anyone I knew had knowledge of or opinions about this model.
 
 ??
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
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[MBZ] Boing, boing.

2015-04-06 Thread Fred Moir
Bounced and re enabled yesterday.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon
Dave, thanks for that link to MBnorthlake.

I just compared the price for the right side tie rod assembly for my '87
wagon.  Dealer in Atlanta online price is $75, local stealership wants
101.25, NorthLake price: $52.50!

I needed an alignment last week after I replaced the inner bushings on the
lower control arms, the shop (Gerald's Tires) couldn't get the right side
tie-rods to adjust (read: they didn't want to muck about with rusty parts,
I should have spent some time loosening all that up before I took the car
in).  Local big parts place wanted $300 for just the tie rod ends, local
dealer had the complete assembly in stock (!) and quoted the price as $75
over the phone.  When I showed up in person they tried to charge me $101.25
and declared they no longer offer a MBCA discount.  I said I had been
quoted $75 over the phone and that was also the online price offered by
other dealerships, and then I got I'll have to talk to the manager about
that and then they caved and gave me the special price.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:28 AM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115
 and 108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list
 price (a bit like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's
 normally way above list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and
 then order conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides
 instant confirmation of pricing.


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Re: [MBZ] bumped again?

2015-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon
Looks like Kaleb changed settings so that we don't have the double-reply
thing, but Google still hates that so you're stuck in the land-o-spam
filters...

-Max

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

 Folks

 I seem to have been bumped off the list again …. what gives?

 thanks,

 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins

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-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon
I use either Tom Hanson at the MB Classic Center in Irvine CA, or Autohaus
AZ or RockAuto if the aftermarket option is worth it.

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

John Ingram wrote:

Hello everyone,
I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went out of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 240D?  
Thank you,

John I.
83 240D  310K


Call or email Dr Fatty?
http://www.buyeuroparts.com/

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dwight Giles
That is where i have been buying my parts post-Rusty.
On Apr 6, 2015 10:35 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:

 John Ingram wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty
 went out of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for
 a 240D?  Thank you,
 John I.
 83 240D  310K


 Call or email Dr Fatty?
 http://www.buyeuroparts.com/

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Re: [MBZ] Unimog value?

2015-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon
$5k?

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How much you all think a circa 1960'a running driving rust free unimog is
 worth?

 --
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

I assume you just phone them?
The website does not appear to let you look up anything for a vehicle as 
old as the 115s.


RB

On 06/04/2015 10:28 AM, David Bruckmann wrote:

I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115 and 
108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list price (a bit 
like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's normally way above 
list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and then order 
conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides instant 
confirmation of pricing.

I basically don't buy aftermarket stuff any more because the price difference 
is minimal in most cases and quality has become so sketchy.



John Ingram wrote:

Hello everyone,
I haven?t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went out 
of business I don?t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 240D?
Thank you,
John I.
83 240D  310K

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

2015-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon
Kaleb,

Just checked my online gmail spam folder, it had about 25 messages from the
list.  Looks like google still hates aol and hotmail and probably others,
need to go back to the double reply thing I think...

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm sure you will all be pleased to note that the NAN and NAACP, after 
an emergency meeting yesterday, called for calm in the community and no 
rioting or demonstrations.  No one rioted or demonstrated! This is not 
a Ferguson situation.


The question was also raised as to why the Gentle Giant ran from the 
traffic stop, which might either have been profiling or due to ongoing 
failure to pay child support for his kids to his babymomma(s) with whom 
he was thinking about getting back together or something (he had to buy 
the pimp rims fo his new murzaydeez yo), we don't yet know what his 
financial profile was.


Also still waiting to learn the description of the cop, whom a Pastor 
said should be placed on administrative leave without pay (no reason given).


No indications if he was thinking about college, or going to college.

--R (who did not riot or demonstrate)


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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread David Bruckmann
I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115 and 
108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list price (a bit 
like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's normally way above 
list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and then order 
conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides instant 
confirmation of pricing. 

I basically don't buy aftermarket stuff any more because the price difference 
is minimal in most cases and quality has become so sketchy. 


 John Ingram wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I haven?t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went 
 out of business I don?t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 
 240D?  
 Thank you,
 John I.
 83 240D  310K

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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Jon Agne
Gary is good.  If you need real MB parts, the classic center is great.

JOn


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:25 AM, John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I haven’t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went 
 out of business I don’t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 240D? 
  
 Thank you,
 John I.
 83 240D  310K
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Re: [MBZ] Pops

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sunroof doesn't open -  Get me a  can opener!

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
wrote:



 1997 Mercedes S320
 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4964280259.html

 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
 Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] Email list questions

2015-04-06 Thread Tim Crone
I'm going to take the lack of response as a 'no'.

I put the 1e100.net domain into my SPF, and published a DMARC policy
of SPF s, DKIM r, 100% drop.

So... here goes.  If you find this in your spam folder please let me
know.  I will check logs again and see how delivery from my end goes.

Thanks,
Tim

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Has anyone set up their domain email for DKIM and tried to use the mailing
 list?  Also, do I need to add the mailing list server to my SPF record?

 If no one knows I will report tomorrow, when I get the logs back.

 Thanks,
 Tim

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist humor for the day

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

Sounds like a scam.

RB

On 06/04/2015 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

A little anger there, no?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:


http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4965384076.html

I bought my daughter this new Malibu, but my evil ex bought a AMG to
upstage
me...

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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I looked up babe magnet.
 At the end was the antonym:
 Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
 Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
 antonym:
 Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon


  You sure you want antonym and not synonym?

 RB


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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a vintage
 Mercedes Diesel.

 RB


 On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:

  On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I looked up babe magnet.
 At the end was the antonym:
 Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
 Sent from my iPhone

   On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 

 wrote:

 I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
 antonym:
 Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon


   You sure you want antonym and not synonym?

 RB





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Re: [MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Wow! I just ran a number through their system and it was less than my jobber 
price!  Of course, it was a rear spring for a W140, so shipping would be 
painful, I imagine.

I wonder how they are selling at that level?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:28 AM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca 
 wrote:
 
 I've had excellent service from  mbnorthlakeparts.com for my routine 115 and 
 108 genuine MB parts. And they generally sell for 20%+ off MB list price (a 
 bit like getting 50% off the usual stealer pricing since that's normally way 
 above list). I use the MB EPC to determine my part numbers and then order 
 conveniently online using the Northlake website, which provides instant 
 confirmation of pricing. 
 
 I basically don't buy aftermarket stuff any more because the price difference 
 is minimal in most cases and quality has become so sketchy. 
 
 
 John Ingram wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I haven?t needed any major parts for my 83 240D lately and since Rusty went 
 out of business I don?t know who to call.  Where do you get parts for a 
 240D?  
 Thank you,
 John I.
 83 240D  310K
 
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Re: [MBZ] Missing emails

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
YEs - all there.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Andrew wrote:
  Not any more - problem solved?

 Did you check your gmail Spam folder?
 I found 5 legitimate okiebenz posts in my gmail Spam, the majority
 from dserit* - that's our welder in DC, correct?
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist humor for the day

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
A little anger there, no?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:

 http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4965384076.html

 I bought my daughter this new Malibu, but my evil ex bought a AMG to
 upstage
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell

On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I looked up babe magnet.
At the end was the antonym:
Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the antonym:
Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon



You sure you want antonym and not synonym?

RB

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[MBZ] Parts

2015-04-06 Thread John Ingram
Thank you Mitch and Dwight.
JI

 Call or email Dr Fatty?
 http://www.buyeuroparts.com
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 113, Issue 32

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What a gig!  ATTABOY!!

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:



 BTW I currently work for the stealer.  I pickup and deliver cars for
 service from customers, do dealer swaps, etc, etc.  Been driving everything
 from Maybachs to Sprinters.  Sometimes, I drive the parts truck.  I've got
 a good relationship there, but I'd like to know what I'm talking about
 before I open my mouth.

 Angelo


 Sounds like a good gig.  Maybe I should try that if I ever move close
 enough to a stealer.


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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell
You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a 
vintage Mercedes Diesel.


RB

On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:


I looked up babe magnet.
At the end was the antonym:
Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

wrote:

I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
antonym:
Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon


  You sure you want antonym and not synonym?

RB






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Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at FLAPS

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
They justify it by assuming every perp is packing heat, since the NRA has
browbeaten our pusillanimous legislators into abandoning any notion of
sensible gun control..

A homeowner in Fairfax, VA was gunned down in broad daylight buy a cop
while standing in his front door during a confrontation with cops.  He was
unarmed, but the cops knew that his house was packed with all sorts of
weaponry and could even see the guns  through the door.  The cop that shot
the guy claims he saw him reach for his belt area...  Interesting case.


On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 So if a cop attacks someone and that person is in imminent danger of being
 incapacitated by the cop, then does the victim have re right to use deadly
 force against the cop?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
 wrote:
 
  If an armed LE officer is attacked by someone, and is in imminent danger
 of
  being incapacitated by the attacker (as with a taser or OC spray,) his
  training is to use deadly force in that situation.
 
  Greg
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Andrew
  Strasfogel
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:14 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thug driving Benz with pimp rims gets ventilated at
 FLAPS
 
  I would speculate the increase in cop shooting incidents is correlated
 with
  the rise in gun ownership and the ease with which anyone can now purchase
  some very lethal weaponry.  Rather than ask questions, cops just shoot
 under
  the assumption that the suspect is or could be heavily armed.
 
  On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas 
  richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
  Dint wanna ride the lightning after the cop tried to stop him, tried
  to get cop's Taser, got a 9mm lead injection instead.
 
  http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150404/PC16/150409635/1177
 
  Kleb could probably pick up the Benz cheap, and Wilton could get the
  rims, yo.
 
  --R
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Could some pass the Grey Poupon, please?

Dan

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 On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a vintage
 Mercedes Diesel.
 
 RB
 
 
 On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
 Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:
 
 On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I looked up babe magnet.
 At the end was the antonym:
 Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
 
 wrote:
 
 I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
 antonym:
 Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon
 
 
  You sure you want antonym and not synonym?
 
 RB
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the club

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Nice try but this is the sort of car that only appeals to guys.

Andrew
1983 300TD
1985 300TD
Different colors but equally attractive to chicks, which is to say not
at all

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Could some pass the Grey Poupon, please?

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Yeah, right.  Refined maybe, pretty no..
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:
 
  You just need to find more refined chicks who will appreciate a
 vintage
  Mercedes Diesel.
 
  RB
 
 
  On 06/04/2015 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
  Well, my car is more a chick repeller than magnet.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
  wrote:
 
  On 03/04/2015 10:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I looked up babe magnet.
  At the end was the antonym:
  Mercedes 240D, preferably China blue.
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
 
  wrote:
 
  I looked up the definition of chick magnet.  At the end was the
  antonym:
  Mercedes 300TD turbodiesel station wagon
 
 
   You sure you want antonym and not synonym?
 
  RB
 
 
 
 
 
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