Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Curly, 
Mark didn't say whether I had too much or too little vac. With no vacuum to the 
transmission modulator, it shifts good. So that would seem like too much vacuum 
when connected. 
Kaleb, the 116 does have the linkage rod, but it also has the vacuum line from 
the modulator valve on top of the IP to the tranny modulator valve on the 
passenger side of the tranny. So, there is vacuum involved in the shifting. I 
just don't remember the exact purpose of the linkage rod. 
Thanks guys, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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[MBZ] OT: Washington DC powered by poop

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Scientists have figured out how to turn WDC poop into 13 mega watts of power.  
We now have hope that something useful can be done with all the hot air coming 
from the other end...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/from-toilet-to-turbine-or-poop-to-power/2015/10/07/5aa1ed6a-6d6b-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_graphic.html
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Ok you could be right, it has been so long since I have messed with one of 
those.

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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:40 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curly, 
> Mark didn't say whether I had too much or too little vac. With no vacuum to 
> the transmission modulator, it shifts good. So that would seem like too much 
> vacuum when connected. 
> Kaleb, the 116 does have the linkage rod, but it also has the vacuum line 
> from the modulator valve on top of the IP to the tranny modulator valve on 
> the passenger side of the tranny. So, there is vacuum involved in the 
> shifting. I just don't remember the exact purpose of the linkage rod. 
> Thanks guys, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
> www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought the rod or cable was used for kick down?

116 SD trans control is unique. 
You have the rod, the modulator, and the electric kickdown.
The kickdown isn't wired direct as in the 123, it's run through an electronic
box
on the firewall that provides first gear start by tripping the kickdown, and
also
protects the tranny by limiting boost on first gear starts. 

At any rate, the shift feel is modulator controlled, and it looks like Roger now
knows that the obvious problem is indeed the problem, a defective or maladjusted
vacuum modulator or vacuum valve on the IP.
If Roger doesn't have the W116 CD, I can try to locate my 1978 300SD technician
update book at my parent's house this weekend. Unfortunately I don't know what
happened to my 116SD throttle linkage adjusting tool, it's a little plastic
donut a bit fatter than a pencil. IIRC the vac modulator is the last thing
you adjust after everything else. The mechanical linkage from pedal to IP is
the first. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The whole idea is to NEVER need to use it.  Just like a rare comic book
that's never even been opened.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would agree, but anything that has adhesive is toast.
>
> I just buy a brand new first aid kit in the plastic box that has fresh and
> more modern stuff in it and use that.
>
> Used to be you could buy new first aid kits from the dealer relatively
> cheap, and I would get new ones, but that’s no longer the case.
>
> I still stand by the comments about them adding value.  Don’t understand
> that at all.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> And maybe it's me, but why do people get the idea that the original
> first aid kit adds value?  If it's not fused closed from being baked in the
> back window, the stuff that's in it is so worthless it could never be put
> to use.  Call me a purist, but those are the first thing I toss when I get
> an older car.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >
> > Ah, Herr Benz Guru,  that is where we differ.  A triangular bandage
> still works, if 30 years old.  I replace tape, and other aged adhesive
> stuff, anything that may be hopelessly outdated, then add bandaids and
> other  stuff to make a good kit.
> >
> > In fact, the kit from the late beloved TD is at the cottage, as it is a
> better kit than what had been there.
> > Fortunately, to date, we have never had to use anything but minor stuff
> from any of the kits.
> >
> > 30 some years ago, Herr Clarke, owner of the dealership I bought parts
> from, gave me a new German kit from a new car delivered to the dealership
> with the German kit rather than the US kit.  I carried it in the 200D for
> years, and I still have it.  Since then, I have grown attached to having a
> MB first aid kit in the car.  Even before that I carried a small AAA kit,
> but it is very minimal compared to the MB kit.
> >
> > I will admit that the number of triangular bandages is probably in
> excess, unless travelling in  a turd world country where one 6-7 pass van
> may be hauling 20-30 people.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Washington DC powered by poop

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pretty amazing.  I am doing my part.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Scientists have figured out how to turn WDC poop into 13 mega watts of
> power.  We now have hope that something useful can be done with all the hot
> air coming from the other end...
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/from-toilet-to-turbine-or-poop-to-power/2015/10/07/5aa1ed6a-6d6b-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_graphic.html
> --
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> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree, but anything that has adhesive is toast.

I just buy a brand new first aid kit in the plastic box that has fresh and more 
modern stuff in it and use that.

Used to be you could buy new first aid kits from the dealer relatively cheap, 
and I would get new ones, but that’s no longer the case.

I still stand by the comments about them adding value.  Don’t understand that 
at all.

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> And maybe it's me, but why do people get the idea that the original first 
>> aid kit adds value?  If it's not fused closed from being baked in the back 
>> window, the stuff that's in it is so worthless it could never be put to use. 
>>  Call me a purist, but those are the first thing I toss when I get an older 
>> car.
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> Ah, Herr Benz Guru,  that is where we differ.  A triangular bandage still 
> works, if 30 years old.  I replace tape, and other aged adhesive stuff, 
> anything that may be hopelessly outdated, then add bandaids and other  stuff 
> to make a good kit.
> 
> In fact, the kit from the late beloved TD is at the cottage, as it is a 
> better kit than what had been there.
> Fortunately, to date, we have never had to use anything but minor stuff from 
> any of the kits.
> 
> 30 some years ago, Herr Clarke, owner of the dealership I bought parts from, 
> gave me a new German kit from a new car delivered to the dealership with the 
> German kit rather than the US kit.  I carried it in the 200D for years, and I 
> still have it.  Since then, I have grown attached to having a MB first aid 
> kit in the car.  Even before that I carried a small AAA kit, but it is very 
> minimal compared to the MB kit.
> 
> I will admit that the number of triangular bandages is probably in excess, 
> unless travelling in  a turd world country where one 6-7 pass van may be 
> hauling 20-30 people.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think I have the W116 CD. I've got a really full schedule today that will 
keep me busy until about 8:30 pm, but I'll look after I get home.

Dan

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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I thought the rod or cable was used for kick down?
> 
> 116 SD trans control is unique. 
> You have the rod, the modulator, and the electric kickdown.
> The kickdown isn't wired direct as in the 123, it's run through an electronic
> box
> on the firewall that provides first gear start by tripping the kickdown, and
> also
> protects the tranny by limiting boost on first gear starts. 
> 
> At any rate, the shift feel is modulator controlled, and it looks like Roger 
> now
> knows that the obvious problem is indeed the problem, a defective or 
> maladjusted
> vacuum modulator or vacuum valve on the IP.
> If Roger doesn't have the W116 CD, I can try to locate my 1978 300SD 
> technician
> update book at my parent's house this weekend. Unfortunately I don't know what
> happened to my 116SD throttle linkage adjusting tool, it's a little plastic
> donut a bit fatter than a pencil. IIRC the vac modulator is the last thing
> you adjust after everything else. The mechanical linkage from pedal to IP is
> the first. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I used one once, was at knackers and busted a knuckle somehow.  I looked
around the car I was working on an found that someone had already spilled
the kit around, probably getting the scissors or triangular bandages, so I
used one of the old bandages to stem the bleeding on my hand and keep
working.  Probably a twenty year-old bandage, worked just fine for the hour
or two I needed it.

When our daughter was younger, she managed to cut herself or scrape herself
several times while on road trips, nothing band-aid worthy if those wounds
happened to me, but to a crying little girl it was pure relief to put on a
band-aid and make it all better.

When I was some place hot and sandy, we had kits with this magic
coagulating powder that would stem any bleeding, up to and including a
femoral artery.  The training for use of the kit included watching a film
of a pig strapped down on its back and someone slicing opening the big
artery in the pigs groin going to its back leg, blood squirts about 3 or 4
feet in the air, pulses a couple times, then same guy that sliced the
artery rips open the magic powder packet and just dumps it on the gaping
wound, and the bleeding stopped instantly.  Quite impressive, glad I never
needed to use that one.  Supposed to leave a really bad scar, but I'd
rather have life and scars.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The whole idea is to NEVER need to use it.  Just like a rare comic book
> that's never even been opened.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Ok you could be right, it has been so long since I have messed with 
one of those.




You're gettin old, man!  Starting to talk like the old guys.

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[MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Is Todd still here?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

If it shifts right with no vacuum, then perhaps the vacuum choke (i 
don't remember the official name) in the line to the trans is missing 
or has been drilled out.


This is usually 2-4 inches from the big vacuum line to the brake 
booster on a small vacuum line.  They are maybe nickle size diameter 
and 5/8" to 3/4" long, with different colors for different orifice 
sizes.  On a 116, it may be located somewhere else.  I have no 
experience with a 116.  on my 81 240D there is no rod or cable, only 
vacuum.  the line branches off the big vacuum line near the booster, 
goes to a little plastic valve thing that is on top of the valve 
cover, then to the trans.


On my 240D, without vacuum, the trans shifts very hard and fast,and 
if I remember right, early.



Curly,
Mark didn't say whether I had too much or too little vac. With no 
vacuum to the transmission modulator, it shifts good. So that would 
seem like too much vacuum when connected.
Kaleb, the 116 does have the linkage rod, but it also has the vacuum 
line from the modulator valve on top of the IP to the tranny 
modulator valve on the passenger side of the tranny. So, there is 
vacuum involved in the shifting. I just don't remember the exact 
purpose of the linkage rod.

Thanks guys,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique)


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Max wrote:
> >
> > In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against
> > your kid in making
> > _anything_!

> Jim wrote:
> 
> These are not inherited traits.  Kid can't make anything
> material. Not interested.

True.  However, without environment it is less likely for
talent to develop into skill.

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Re: [MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Fuel filters?  Air in the fuel line?  Bad fuel?

--R

On 10/8/15 9:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Is Todd still here?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 7:22 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

On 07/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...

Okiebenz meetup?
mao

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Mercedes painted, so long as you all accept the same color.


RB


You volunteering to do the prep work?

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What prep work?
I will send a razor blade so you can scrape the windows clear.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Jim,

Your unit has a mechanical flyweight governor that is either belt or gear 
driven. It's probably a Hoof, Pierce, or something comparable.

You can use the Google to get more information on the Hoof governors, as the 
operation is pretty common amongst all mechanical governors.

You'll have a speed control screw or adjustment and a sensitivity adjustment. 
The sensitivity adjustment usually consists of a lever or bolt with the end 
attached to a spring. By lengthening or shortening this bolt, you change the 
sensitivity or gain of the governor. This determines how sensitive the governor 
is to changes in engine speed.

In your case, I suspect your governor sensitivity is too high, meaning that 
even small changes in engine speed will cause the governor to react. As a 
result, the engine speed is unstable or oscillates for a while after the change 
takes place.  It's possible you have fuel system problems, but absent that, the 
governor is the most likely culprit.

There are some really detailed instructions on the following web site:

www.foleyengines.com

If you put the term "governor" in the search box on their home page the first 
hit will be "Tech tip #182: Foley Universal Governor Installation Guide"

Dan

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On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> from the way things sound. A well adjusted mechanical governor shouldn't 
>> vary more than 3Hz at load changes, and that would be heavy loads. If it 
>> does, something is not adjusted properly or he's got fuel system issues.
> 
> Yeah, that mechanical thingy has holes and springs.  I have no instructions
> on how to set it up right.
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Guys, 
I appreciate the info and offers of help on info. I have the MB blue technical 
manual for the 1980 series (240, 300D, 300SD, 230, etc.) It shows the vacuum 
diagram, but it includes the EGR and circuit, which mine does not have. As I 
said, I'm not a mechanical person and that's why I've had Indies work on both 
my diesels for me since I've owned them. I do simple stuff on the cars. I'll 
try using the diagram and see if I can isolate the problem. I fear it's the 
white vacuum control on top of the IP. I've had it replaced before. It is a 
rare odd piece. The one for the 1980 617 engine is NOT the same as the one for 
post 1980 diesels. The 1980 version can be adjusted, the later models are 
preset at the factory and can't be adjusted. When I last replaced it, the MB 
dealership had to order one from Germany to get the right unit. 
Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. I'll keep trying to isolate 
and fix and let you guys know the outcome. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Right on!  The razor blade scraper is one of the top 10 inventions in human
or any other history.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 07/10/2015 7:22 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On 07/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 Curly wrote:

> ...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...
>
 Okiebenz meetup?
 mao

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>>> Mercedes painted, so long as you all accept the same color.
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>
>> You volunteering to do the prep work?
>>
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>
> What prep work?
> I will send a razor blade so you can scrape the windows clear.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm wondering if there is a anti-theft cut-off valve in the fuel system
that is causing the issue.  Another thought: fuel supply and return lines
got reversed in the engine compartment, and the fuel tank level is too low
to allow the car to run very long?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fuel filters?  Air in the fuel line?  Bad fuel?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/8/15 9:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Is Todd still here?
>>
>> http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

RB wrote:
> My insurance company pretty much frowns on things like wood stoves anymore
> so I don't have a whole lot of choice.

I totally agree.
However, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Stuff can be created to manage these issues.  There were people in
your neck of the woods a century back.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html

DBT is banned only I think.
I like 350D - thanks.
How about this for bit more $$:
reno.craigslist.org/cto/5255862218.html
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1994 e320 wagon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes!  I think that year has upgraded rear body parts, stronger at the cups for 
the subframe bushings.

A little on the pricy side, would need to be a really nice rust-free body and 
great interior.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 8, 2015 5:03:35 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>1987 TD engine swap candidate?
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:43:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yeah, that “little rust” at the base of the back window is a big
> honking problem just waiting to surprise someone.
> 
> Headliner is toast.
> 
> “Stuck” odometer?  How much has it been driven since you bought it
> three years ago?
> 
> And maybe it’s me, but why do people get the idea that the original
> first aid kit adds value?  If it’s not fused closed from being baked in
> the back window, the stuff that’s in it is so worthless it could never
> be put to use.  Call me a purist, but those are the first thing I toss
> when I get an older car.

Yes, but it has a spare tire!!!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[clay via Mercedes]

It tends to make judges happy at show and shine or collector car gatherings to 
be as close to how it was born.  MBCA Preservation class award has a lengthy 
list of needed original items to pass muster.  First aid kit is on the list, 
along with tool kit and all the booklets and even the dang glove box flashlight 
in the SL R107


clay 

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On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> The whole idea is to NEVER need to use it.  Just like a rare comic book
> that's never even been opened.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would agree, but anything that has adhesive is toast.
>> 
>> I just buy a brand new first aid kit in the plastic box that has fresh and
>> more modern stuff in it and use that.
>> 
>> Used to be you could buy new first aid kits from the dealer relatively
>> cheap, and I would get new ones, but that’s no longer the case.
>> 
>> I still stand by the comments about them adding value.  Don’t understand
>> that at all.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 And maybe it's me, but why do people get the idea that the original
>> first aid kit adds value?  If it's not fused closed from being baked in the
>> back window, the stuff that's in it is so worthless it could never be put
>> to use.  Call me a purist, but those are the first thing I toss when I get
>> an older car.
 
 Dan
>>> 
>>> Ah, Herr Benz Guru,  that is where we differ.  A triangular bandage
>> still works, if 30 years old.  I replace tape, and other aged adhesive
>> stuff, anything that may be hopelessly outdated, then add bandaids and
>> other  stuff to make a good kit.
>>> 
>>> In fact, the kit from the late beloved TD is at the cottage, as it is a
>> better kit than what had been there.
>>> Fortunately, to date, we have never had to use anything but minor stuff
>> from any of the kits.
>>> 
>>> 30 some years ago, Herr Clarke, owner of the dealership I bought parts
>> from, gave me a new German kit from a new car delivered to the dealership
>> with the German kit rather than the US kit.  I carried it in the 200D for
>> years, and I still have it.  Since then, I have grown attached to having a
>> MB first aid kit in the car.  Even before that I carried a small AAA kit,
>> but it is very minimal compared to the MB kit.
>>> 
>>> I will admit that the number of triangular bandages is probably in
>> excess, unless travelling in  a turd world country where one 6-7 pass van
>> may be hauling 20-30 people.
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[MBZ] Fw: 1994 e320 wagon

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

1987 TD engine swap candidate?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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[MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

V8 anyone?


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:51:18 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> I'm thinking two inverters back to back

You mean a DC power supply feeding an inverter ...


> and a sine wave line conditioner feeding the computer equipment on a
> special circuit; assuming that the inverters can handle a squirrelly
> sine wave. The DC coming into the second inverter should be converted
> into reasonable good sine waves, and the line conditioner should fine
> tune them. Gerry

A DC power supply, particularly of the linear sort, should be able to
handle a squirrelly sine wave. But a DC power supply feeding an inverter
is exactly what a certain class of UPS is, though I forget the special
name.


Craig

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[MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Winter is setting in and I need a winter beater as my China blue 240D is still 
undergoing rust repair and I'm certainly not driving the BMW 2002 or the pagoda 
in the snow! So, I went to flaps, bought a bottle of blue devil head gasket fix 
and poured it into the radiator!
So far so good. But you all know that this car is possessed so I definitely 
won't hold my breath!!

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And that's important for your cars?

I am very familiar with concours judging, so rest assured that should I ever 
own such a car I won't toss the first aid kit...



Dan

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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 6:17 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> It tends to make judges happy at show and shine or collector car gatherings 
> to be as close to how it was born.  MBCA Preservation class award has a 
> lengthy list of needed original items to pass muster.  First aid kit is on 
> the list, along with tool kit and all the booklets and even the dang glove 
> box flashlight in the SL R107
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> The whole idea is to NEVER need to use it.  Just like a rare comic book
>> that's never even been opened.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would agree, but anything that has adhesive is toast.
>>> 
>>> I just buy a brand new first aid kit in the plastic box that has fresh and
>>> more modern stuff in it and use that.

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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was thinking about you today as I plan to go to Maine Sunday. I'll be back 
through in November and was thinking we could have a ceremonial adding of the 
goop.
Let us know how it goes.
-Curt

  From: Dimitri via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dimitri  
 Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 6:37 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited
   
Winter is setting in and I need a winter beater as my China blue 240D is still 
undergoing rust repair and I'm certainly not driving the BMW 2002 or the pagoda 
in the snow! So, I went to flaps, bought a bottle of blue devil head gasket fix 
and poured it into the radiator!
So far so good. But you all know that this car is possessed so I definitely 
won't hold my breath!!

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Does "needs restoration" imply that it's very shabby but runs and drives?

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> V8 anyone?
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

My Hairstyle is even more Powerful than The Don's

--R



On 10/8/15 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Word is getting out.  I hear Rich is The Donald's choice for running mate.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his
compound, and dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.

Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale
(124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window.
Regulator had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!

I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I was
taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug
through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.

Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

#1 (and only) son now allows as to how a 240D 123 (manual)
might be a contender as his first car.  The Beetle is out
because he's taking up the string bass.  We already know
that they basically don't fit in those, that's why the
neighbors got rid of theirs.  Anyway, once he hits 14yo
this month car-hunting season officially opens!  I expect
it to take months before anything might actually be
procured.

_Ideally_ he'd take a shine to our Chevy pickup, then
I could get something else as our woods beater.  :-)
But he hates it, so that's a no-go.

Criteria:  Safe; slow; stickshift; needs work, especially
some (but not huge amounts) of cosmetic work; relatively
inexpensive; something he _likes_.  An old MB would be
ideal, for many reasons.  The idea is to get him into
something he likes and with a fair amount of sweat equity.
Maximizes our chances of keeping him alive, while minimizing
our expenses.  Funky colors move to the head of the line.

-- Jim


Great criteria!  Mine were the same, except I didn't demand manual trans.

Both ours learned on the 81 240D auto, and drove it to HS.  One 
graduated to first car at 16, and he chose the "free" Hawaiian 200D 
with cracked rings in #1.  It then became the 200D 2.4.  THAT is a 
GREAT combination!  The other was given a budget and told she was not 
getting an SL because she could not find one that cheap.Little 
*hit went out and found a stealer maintained SL within budget.  She 
still wants an SLK.  In her year in der faterland, the neighbor had 
an SLK.  She was in love...with the SLK


I figger a male child who has significant sweat equity in a car is 
more likely to care for it and not take too many excessive risks.


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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

You really don't need a mity vac or even a vac gauge, if you have 
ever popped a line off the normally functioning  vac system, you can 
hear what normal is.  Pull off the hose at the pump. start the car 
(keep fingers and ties, sleeves, etc out of the fan) and stick your 
finger on the pump outlet.  If it tries to hold your finger on it, 
then it is working.  If the pump has failed, you'll barely notice any 
pull.


If you have a vacuum gauge, I think 14-16 is normal, and the 13" 
mentioned may be the min acceptable by the book.



I'm not sure what the vac pump is like on a 240 but if it is the 
same as a 300 it is a fairly easy fix, the kit comes with a new 
rubber diaphragm and some one-way valves.  I have a writeup on my 
web site, which I might or might not be able to find.  I would vote 
for that, but you would need to put a mity-vac on the line coming 
out of it (make sure the line coming out of it is actually connected 
and/or able to hold vac) and see if the pump is actually pulling a 
vacuum of sufficient quantity (13" maybe if I recall...).


--R


On 10/8/15 9:50 PM, Don Wills via Mercedes wrote:

My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.

I know how to track down vacuum leaks, but wondered if anyone has seen this
progression before. The piece that shuts down the engine has been replaced,
but can't remember how long ago. Maybe 5 years? Lock system long ago
disabled and plugged. Vacuum system is pretty much engine shut off and
brakes.

What concerns me most is the sudden lack of brake boost. Have not yet
checked to see if there is any vacuum present in the system (that will be
done on Saturday).

Ideas?


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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM Don Wills via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
> engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
> without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
> Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.

OMG, it's the long lost Lt Wonko!

It might be a vacuum pump failure. 
The system is designed to supply vacuum to the brake booster when all
else (door locks, etc) has sprung a leak. But if the pump quits pumping...

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his compound, and 
dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.  

Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale 
(124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window.  Regulator 
had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!

I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I was 
taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug 
through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.

Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Excellent choice! Our youngest two learned to drive in the 240D Manual W123
(it was bought new by their great-grandfather).

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> #1 (and only) son now allows as to how a 240D 123 (manual)
> might be a contender as his first car.  The Beetle is out
> because he's taking up the string bass.  We already know
> that they basically don't fit in those, that's why the
> neighbors got rid of theirs.  Anyway, once he hits 14yo
> this month car-hunting season officially opens!  I expect
> it to take months before anything might actually be
> procured.
>
> _Ideally_ he'd take a shine to our Chevy pickup, then
> I could get something else as our woods beater.  :-)
> But he hates it, so that's a no-go.
>
> Criteria:  Safe; slow; stickshift; needs work, especially
> some (but not huge amounts) of cosmetic work; relatively
> inexpensive; something he _likes_.  An old MB would be
> ideal, for many reasons.  The idea is to get him into
> something he likes and with a fair amount of sweat equity.
> Maximizes our chances of keeping him alive, while minimizing
> our expenses.  Funky colors move to the head of the line.
>
> -- Jim
>
>


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Andrew.
Needs restoration = Jack-up the hubcaps and slide a new car in.
Fred


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Andrew Strasfogel 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

Does "needs restoration" imply that it's very shabby but runs and drives?

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> V8 anyone?
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: ro...@craigslist.org 
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> 1973 Mercedes Benz 280e 4.5l v8,needs restoration but solid 800.00 Email
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:

 http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html


DBT is banned only I think.
I like 350D - thanks.
How about this for bit more $$:
reno.craigslist.org/cto/5255862218.html
mao


What kind of electronic junk is on that 95 Diesel in Chicago?

The cheap 280 in reno is probably a better car and probably lower 
cost to keep it on the road.


Fir a gasser, I'd look at an M104 E320 4dr or a wagon.  I am afraid 
of the cheap klasse.maybe just fear of the unknown.



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[MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Got a borrowed VAG Tacho cable today which allows my laptop to get the magic 
code for programming keys to my car. My VCDS cable that will work with the 
car's diagnostics can do the programming but can't retrieve the magic code.My 
Indy's cheap chinesium cable couldn't talk to my car's ecu at all so I put out 
the word on TDIClub and a guy offered me his cable.
Worked a treat once I understood the procedure, you tell it how many keys to 
program, which is to say you tell it how many keys you have, you have to 
program all of them every time. It then programs the key in the ignition at 
that moment, you remove that key, put the next key in and turn the car on but 
don't start it. Count to 5, remove that key and put in the last one, when the 
immobilizer light goes out they're all programmed.
I had a hard time trusting in the "count to 5" and move on part so this took me 
a couple tries.
Then I programmed the remotes so all the keys can open the doors and it looks 
like this phase of reviving this car is done. This is a big relief, we've been 
living with just one key which was frightening...
Two more steps to perfection, the rear brakes still drag a little so they'll 
get replaced and I still need one front fender...
I fueled up today, 460+ miles traveled for not quite 10 gallons of fuel, so 
46+mpg, its getting there.
Tomorrow's mission is to find the vacuum leak that sets the check engine light 
on the Jetta and get that car inspected. Probably ought to think about the snow 
tires for it too.

-CurtNo idea what VAG Tacho and VCDS mean, thats just what the cables are 
called.
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Lurking?  'Hope all else is well.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Wills via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Don Wills" 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?



I never went away, Max. I just stopped posting.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

LT Don! Welcome back, and yes, car questions get answered, after 
politics,

guns, food, culture, etc have been beaten into the ground.

Sounds to me like you've got three options: leak in brake booster, leak 
at

seal between master cylinder and brake booster, or failed vacuum pump.

Isolate vacuum pump from booster, start engine and check vacuum pump
function.  Sorry, don't have the number spec in my head.
--
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'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks!  You da Mann!  I was hoping you have encountered this.  I 
onlyhave me, so I turned the key on, then walked around and whack on 
it.  Sounds like i need to take the wire off, then touch the wire to 
the solenoid while whacking.   Mahalo Nui Loa!




Diesel engine only needs 3 things to start and run.. fuel, air,
compression..

Since it will fire off on ether, it has air and compression.. you don't
have fuel.. thus..

The problem is not uncommon when a cat engine sets unused.. the fuel
shutoff solenoid that turns off fuel to shut down the engine is stuck in
closed position.

If you hear the solenoid click, then electric current is present to
solenoid, but the mechanical part is stuck from not being used and thus
doesn't let fuel come to IP.

Rapping it with a hammer [litely please... don't wail on it] while cycling
the key on and off to energize the solenoid is sometimes successful..

Not possible to do with only ONE person.. needs two.. get a helper to run
the key.. try it..

If that fails.. R the solenoid fuel shutdown valve.. Clean it up.. you
should be good to go..

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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 On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:19:30 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes

  wrote:

  Anybody familiar with these cat engines and the fuel pump/injection

  system?



 Sorry, no.

  Starts up on ether, but still  no fuel.  Tried to use the primer pump

  at the filter, but either it is rusted up or hard to press because of
  fuel pressure.


 


  If the hand primer worked, i could crack the line out from the filter
  and see if fuel is there.



 How about cracking the line out from the filter and running it a short
 time on ether to see if there is fuel there (positioned with a wrench, of
 course to tighten the line if there should be a geyser of fuel)?

 Craig




 I was just going to crank it.  if none cranking, then we can see what
 happens with a shot of ether.THere won't be anyone with a wrench to
 tighten it up.  if it leaks fuel, the fuel will leak.  its a ways form the
 cab to the fuel filter, and I only have me.


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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

#1 (and only) son now allows as to how a 240D 123 (manual)
might be a contender as his first car.  The Beetle is out
because he's taking up the string bass.  We already know
that they basically don't fit in those, that's why the
neighbors got rid of theirs.  Anyway, once he hits 14yo
this month car-hunting season officially opens!  I expect
it to take months before anything might actually be
procured.

_Ideally_ he'd take a shine to our Chevy pickup, then
I could get something else as our woods beater.  :-)
But he hates it, so that's a no-go.

Criteria:  Safe; slow; stickshift; needs work, especially
some (but not huge amounts) of cosmetic work; relatively
inexpensive; something he _likes_.  An old MB would be
ideal, for many reasons.  The idea is to get him into
something he likes and with a fair amount of sweat equity.
Maximizes our chances of keeping him alive, while minimizing
our expenses.  Funky colors move to the head of the line.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

I have checked the fuses and am still using Mobil 1.

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>
>
> > On October 8, 2015 at 9:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On October 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM Don Wills via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day
> one,
> > > engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no
> shut-down
> > > without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
> > > Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.
> >
> > OMG, it's the long lost Lt Wonko!
> >
> > It might be a vacuum pump failure.
> > The system is designed to supply vacuum to the brake booster when all
> > else (door locks, etc) has sprung a leak. But if the pump quits
> pumping...
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

That is my fear.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On October 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM Don Wills via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
> > engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
> > without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
> > Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.
>
> OMG, it's the long lost Lt Wonko!
>
> It might be a vacuum pump failure.
> The system is designed to supply vacuum to the brake booster when all
> else (door locks, etc) has sprung a leak. But if the pump quits pumping...
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

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> On October 8, 2015 at 9:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On October 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM Don Wills via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
> > engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
> > without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
> > Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.
> 
> OMG, it's the long lost Lt Wonko!
> 
> It might be a vacuum pump failure. 
> The system is designed to supply vacuum to the brake booster when all
> else (door locks, etc) has sprung a leak. But if the pump quits pumping...
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

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LT Don! Welcome back, and yes, car questions get answered, after politics, 
guns, food, culture, etc have been beaten into the ground.

Sounds to me like you've got three options: leak in brake booster, leak at seal 
between master cylinder and brake booster, or failed vacuum pump.

Isolate vacuum pump from booster, start engine and check vacuum pump function.  
Sorry, don't have the number spec in my head.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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[MBZ] Brake booster question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LT Don's question got me thinking... Dangerous I know.
My '98 Jetta's brake booster has a leak, its been squeaking at me for awhile 
now. First thing in the morning if you step on the brake it'll make a noise a 
lot like letting the air out of a balloon while squeezing the neck of the 
balloon. You know the juvenile noises I mean. When I first got the car it would 
only do it on hard braking, now its any time the engine is off too. When the 
car is cold the brake pedal is extra hard too.

So I was thinking that should be no big deal, then I looked at where it is, 
remember its a front wheel drive car with a transverse engine. Theres a whole 
bunch of crap in there. This is one of those jobs I'll be glad to pay somebody 
to do.
On my way home today I was considering it and wondered if maybe I shouldn't 
have them do the brake master cylinder while they're at it. Thats got to at 
least move out of the way while he's at it right? I *thought* I could detect a 
sinking brake pedal a couple months ago while sitting at a stop but now I can't 
make it do it again.
Thoughts?
Thanks
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Next thing, Rusty is going to chime in and let us know he can get Don a new 
vacuum pump in about two days for fifty bucks.
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:19:30 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Anybody familiar with these cat engines and the fuel pump/injection
> system?

Sorry, no.

> Starts up on ether, but still  no fuel.  Tried to use the primer pump
> at the filter, but either it is rusted up or hard to press because of
> fuel pressure.

> If the hand primer worked, i could crack the line out from the filter 
> and see if fuel is there.

How about cracking the line out from the filter and running it a short
time on ether to see if there is fuel there (positioned with a wrench, of
course to tighten the line if there should be a geyser of fuel)?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Word is getting out.  I hear Rich is The Donald's choice for running mate.

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> A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his
> compound, and dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.
>
> Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale
> (124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window.
> Regulator had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!
>
> I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I was
> taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug
> through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.
>
> Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

But a DC power supply feeding an inverter is exactly what a certain 
class of UPS is, though I forget the special name.


Me too, but all four of our big UPS's are that kind.  APC's Smart-UPS 
x2,

and Best Power's FerrUPS x2.  We're using the small 2kVA APC.  Backups?
We gotcher backups right here...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Holy hell its Wonko the insane. The vacuum pump has probably failed.

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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Don Wills via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
> engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
> without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
> Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.
> 
> I know how to track down vacuum leaks, but wondered if anyone has seen this
> progression before. The piece that shuts down the engine has been replaced,
> but can't remember how long ago. Maybe 5 years? Lock system long ago
> disabled and plugged. Vacuum system is pretty much engine shut off and
> brakes.
> 
> What concerns me most is the sudden lack of brake boost. Have not yet
> checked to see if there is any vacuum present in the system (that will be
> done on Saturday).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well I'm glad your posting!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 8, 2015 10:13:09 PM EDT, Don Wills via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I never went away, Max. I just stopped posting.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

And you are still a flaming liberal too, right? Tell us what you think about 
Trump or Carson.

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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Don Wills via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have checked the fuses and am still using Mobil 1.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On October 8, 2015 at 9:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On October 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM Don Wills via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day
>> one,
 engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no
>> shut-down
 without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
 Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.
>>> 
>>> OMG, it's the long lost Lt Wonko!
>>> 
>>> It might be a vacuum pump failure.
>>> The system is designed to supply vacuum to the brake booster when all
>>> else (door locks, etc) has sprung a leak. But if the pump quits
>> pumping...
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

I never went away, Max. I just stopped posting.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> LT Don! Welcome back, and yes, car questions get answered, after politics,
> guns, food, culture, etc have been beaten into the ground.
>
> Sounds to me like you've got three options: leak in brake booster, leak at
> seal between master cylinder and brake booster, or failed vacuum pump.
>
> Isolate vacuum pump from booster, start engine and check vacuum pump
> function.  Sorry, don't have the number spec in my head.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Both, and sooner rather than later.  "The ability to stop is more important 
than the ability to go."
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'm not sure what the vac pump is like on a 240 but if it is the same as 
a 300 it is a fairly easy fix, the kit comes with a new rubber diaphragm 
and some one-way valves.  I have a writeup on my web site, which I might 
or might not be able to find.  I would vote for that, but you would need 
to put a mity-vac on the line coming out of it (make sure the line 
coming out of it is actually connected and/or able to hold vac) and see 
if the pump is actually pulling a vacuum of sufficient quantity (13" 
maybe if I recall...).


--R


On 10/8/15 9:50 PM, Don Wills via Mercedes wrote:

My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.

I know how to track down vacuum leaks, but wondered if anyone has seen this
progression before. The piece that shuts down the engine has been replaced,
but can't remember how long ago. Maybe 5 years? Lock system long ago
disabled and plugged. Vacuum system is pretty much engine shut off and
brakes.

What concerns me most is the sudden lack of brake boost. Have not yet
checked to see if there is any vacuum present in the system (that will be
done on Saturday).

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[MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yesterday I tried to start a cat V8 DIesel in a shovey truck, between 
26,000 and 29,500 lb GVWR


FUel in tanks, put in 2 new batteries

Cranks but acts like there is no fuel.  Starts up on ether, but still 
no fuel.  Tried to use the primer pump at the filter, but either it 
is rusted up or hard to press because of fuel pressure.


I can hear the fuel shutoff solenoid click on and off with the key. 
Tried tapping it with a hammer when the key was on.


Still no fuel.

Anybody familiar with these cat engines and the fuel pump/injection system?

I'm not sure what to try next.

Thinking about changing fuel filter, but I want to figure out where 
the transfer pump is and how it works first.


If the hand primer worked, i could crack the line out from the filter 
and see if fuel is there.


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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:19:30 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Anybody familiar with these cat engines and the fuel pump/injection
 system?


Sorry, no.


 Starts up on ether, but still  no fuel.  Tried to use the primer pump
 at the filter, but either it is rusted up or hard to press because of
 fuel pressure.



 If the hand primer worked, i could crack the line out from the filter
 and see if fuel is there.


How about cracking the line out from the filter and running it a short
time on ether to see if there is fuel there (positioned with a wrench, of
course to tighten the line if there should be a geyser of fuel)?

Craig



I was just going to crank it.  if none cranking, then we can see what 
happens with a shot of ether.THere won't be anyone with a wrench 
to tighten it up.  if it leaks fuel, the fuel will leak.  its a ways 
form the cab to the fuel filter, and I only have me.


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[MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

My 240D did a two day progression from "no problems" to issues. Day one,
engine chugged a time or two before shutting down. Day two, no shut-down
without opening the hood and also lost power assist on the brakes.
Obviously a massive vacuum leak somewhere.

I know how to track down vacuum leaks, but wondered if anyone has seen this
progression before. The piece that shuts down the engine has been replaced,
but can't remember how long ago. Maybe 5 years? Lock system long ago
disabled and plugged. Vacuum system is pretty much engine shut off and
brakes.

What concerns me most is the sudden lack of brake boost. Have not yet
checked to see if there is any vacuum present in the system (that will be
done on Saturday).

Ideas?
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 8, 2015 at 10:57 AM rogerhga--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Do it by the book, which it appears didn't happen a couple of weeks ago when you
told us the indy said the modulator was operating correctly. 

IIRC (Dan or I should have the official write-up in a day or two)

1, adjust throttle linkage to IP.
2, adjust throttle rod to transmission.
3. adjust vacuum valve on IP that feeds the modulator. 
4. hook up a pressure gauge to the transmission hydraulics and adjust the
modulator. 


The rod (and kickdown solenoid) controls shift points. 
The modulator controls shift feel. 
Unless the modulator or the bands are out of adjustment, it should kick you
in the butt when shifting at part throttle with no vacuum to the modulator. 

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Yes, but it has a spare tire!!!


So do I!  Not worth too much at the bank... :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Diesel engine only needs 3 things to start and run.. fuel, air,
compression..

Since it will fire off on ether, it has air and compression.. you don't
have fuel.. thus..

The problem is not uncommon when a cat engine sets unused.. the fuel
shutoff solenoid that turns off fuel to shut down the engine is stuck in
closed position.

If you hear the solenoid click, then electric current is present to
solenoid, but the mechanical part is stuck from not being used and thus
doesn't let fuel come to IP.

Rapping it with a hammer [litely please... don't wail on it] while cycling
the key on and off to energize the solenoid is sometimes successful..

Not possible to do with only ONE person.. needs two.. get a helper to run
the key.. try it..

If that fails.. R the solenoid fuel shutdown valve.. Clean it up.. you
should be good to go..

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:19:30 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Anybody familiar with these cat engines and the fuel pump/injection
>>>  system?
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, no.
>>
>>  Starts up on ether, but still  no fuel.  Tried to use the primer pump
>>>  at the filter, but either it is rusted up or hard to press because of
>>>  fuel pressure.
>>>
>> 
>>
>>>  If the hand primer worked, i could crack the line out from the filter
>>>  and see if fuel is there.
>>>
>>
>> How about cracking the line out from the filter and running it a short
>> time on ether to see if there is fuel there (positioned with a wrench, of
>> course to tighten the line if there should be a geyser of fuel)?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>
> I was just going to crank it.  if none cranking, then we can see what
> happens with a shot of ether.THere won't be anyone with a wrench to
> tighten it up.  if it leaks fuel, the fuel will leak.  its a ways form the
> cab to the fuel filter, and I only have me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOYS!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon


A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his compound, 
and dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.


Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale 
(124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window. 
Regulator had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!


I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I was 
taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug 
through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.


Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Looks like I managed to simultaneously open a composer window and send the
message.

Another side effect of the "brakes get priority" setup is that when the brake
booster or the big hose to the brake booster spring a leak, everything else
vacuum dependent dies. 

So I guess the first thing is to check the plumbing from the pump to the
booster, then check for vacuum at the pump. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Is Trent going to take his money and never send him anything?
Or do like he did to me and send the wrong thing, then promise to send the 
right thing before disappearing?

-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Max Dillon  
 Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?
   
Next thing, Rusty is going to chime in and let us know he can get Don a new 
vacuum pump in about two days for fifty bucks.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yea, and they were too busy chopping and hauling wood to stay alive in the
winter to worry about starting a Diesel engine, or keeping up with their
friends all over the world via the Internet . . .

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> RB wrote:
> > My insurance company pretty much frowns on things like wood stoves
> anymore
> > so I don't have a whole lot of choice.
>
> I totally agree.
> However, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
> Stuff can be created to manage these issues.  There were people in
> your neck of the woods a century back.
> mao
>
>

-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not good.  He doesn't like being upstaged.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My Hairstyle is even more Powerful than The Don's
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 10/8/15 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Word is getting out.  I hear Rich is The Donald's choice for running mate.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his
>>> compound, and dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.
>>>
>>> Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale
>>> (124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window.
>>> Regulator had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!
>>>
>>> I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I
>>> was
>>> taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug
>>> through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.
>>>
>>> Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

My Hairstyle is even more Powerful than The Don's

--R


Send pictures.  We wanna see!

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> > Gerry wrote:
> > I'm thinking two inverters back to back

> Craig wrote:
> You mean a DC power supply feeding an inverter ...

G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to DC.
Then, the inverter feeds the DC to another inverter that produces a 110v sine 
wave. Then, if the sine wave is now a steady 60hz but with a squirrelly sine 
wave, a sine wave line conditioner would be added. 
This would be a separate low power circuit feeding low power consumption 
computer equipment. 

> > and a sine wave line conditioner feeding the computer equipment on a
> > special circuit; assuming that the inverters can handle a squirrelly
> > sine wave. The DC coming into the second inverter should be converted
> > into reasonable good sine waves, and the line conditioner should fine
> > tune them.
> 
> A DC power supply, particularly of the linear sort, should be able to
> handle a squirrelly sine wave. But a DC power supply feeding an inverter
> is exactly what a certain class of UPS is, though I forget the special
> name.
> Craig

G: If that sort of UPS were available, that's all that would be needed, I would 
think.

If a generator has a DC output sufficient to run the computer equipment after 
being inverted, that's all that would be needed if the inverter produces a good 
sine wave; but if not, then a sine wave line conditioner could be added to the 
circuit. The idea would be to overcome the varying rpm of the generator since 
the inverter produces it's own, and to correct any other variations in the sine 
wave.

I'm not sure any of this would work since I've never put together such a 
circuit.

Gerry

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