Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My 78 300TD came with a cast iron style check strap mechanism that
eventually broke (lose pieces in the door).  I replaced them with a stamped
steel version (style with the big ball bearings) which were fine as long as
the lube lasted.  Also, cleaning and fresh lube usually brought the stamped
style back to life even after they rusted.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:01 PM
> 
> I am assuming the door checks are the same for the bulk of the cars from
the
> /8 to the 126.  At least from the box of the dang things I collected over
the
> years.  Sadly, I sold all my parts last spring for no money.   If I find
some when I
> hit the PnP I can share.
> 
> clay
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> >
> > Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist
> in the aftermarket.
> >
> > 123 730 03 16
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >



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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Jim is probably right.  Bur if even one good bulb is screwed in you should
read zero.  The capacitive coupling voltage is normal with a high impedance
meter but it normally floats around: not constant. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Cathey via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:58 PM
> Inductive/capacitive coupling, probably.  Voltage means nothing, voltage
times
> current means everything.  A million volts at a picoamp probably won't
even
> tickle.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Ceiling light fixture, has three small 15 watt bulbs, two were "out" so
> I decided it was time for new bulbs.  Touching one of them caused it to
> light up, indicating the base contacts are not contacting, so I decided
> to take down the fixture and see if I could fix that.
> 
> Here's the strange part.  I shut off the switch that controls that light
> fixture, and double checked with my Fluke to make sure the power is
> really off, but the meter shows 14 VAC between the hot and the ground!
> 
> What is the cause of this?

Capacitive pickup.

You have a high input impedance meter which needs little current and a
capacitor formed by two parallel wires with insulation between them. The
AC voltage will charge the capacitor as it reverses polarity. This takes
current which, when flowing through the input impedance of your meter,
will show as a voltage.


Craig

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[MBZ] refrigerant oil

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sort of a strange time of year for this sort of question but I am 
getting ready to replace the ac compressor on my 92 300SD.  The clutch 
is making strange noises and has a lot of play in the pulley so I am 
swapping it out.  I thought I had a bad compressor around that I could 
swap the clutch off of but it does not appear so. Anyway, I was getting 
ready to order some oil and was going to buy a gallon PAG but then got 
to thinking once the bottle is opened will it start drawing moisture?  
If that is the case what about the little bottle that holds oil for 
injection on my Robinair AC machine?  Wouldn't it draw moisture too?  If 
a larger bottle that I would not use all of it would draw moisture on 
the unused portion should I only buy 8oz bottles?


It appears most of our cars with R123 used PAG46.  What about older cars 
that are converted from R12 to R134?  Should those use POE oil?


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

The rears I pulled had two positions besides closed.

clay

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Finding my way through a few parts I need.
 
 Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
 the aftermarket.
 
 123 730 03 16
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

URO might be ok as long as you add moly lube really thick to the thing.  Polei 
had some uro crap that was busted to hell.  The things were dry as could be.  I 
pulled straps from PnP and lubed them up before putting them in.  The factory 
goo was aged, the URO never had lube

clay


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Finding my way through a few parts I need.
 
 Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
 the aftermarket.
 
 123 730 03 16
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

This has been a long time coming! It can be difficult for a blind person to 
hear a Prius while crossing a busy intersection.  My guide dog was trained to 
detect a Prius, and demonstrated that Prius Prowess several times during our 
2.5 week training period. The Prius sound choice should be put up for popular 
vote. 
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A digital recording of a diesel idling would be perfect.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> In NYC in the winter time you see mountain bikes with screws protruding
>> from the knobbies for ice traction...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Meade Dillon 
>> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>> 
>> No headphone, but often a wool hat over ears to fend off frostbite.
>> Farmer John knobby tires were all the rage on mountain bikes back then, I
>> could get through the snow pretty well, ice was another story.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes
>> sense, especially if you had headphones in.
>> Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and
>> all...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>> 
>> A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that
>> can completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days
>> I rode a mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had
>> to pay very close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they
>> could overtake me and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I
>>> was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
>>> 
>>> In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
>>> 
>>> moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
>>> 
>>> In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right)
>>> according to traffic law and common sense.
>>> 
>>> In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made
>>> absolutely no noticeable noise.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
>>> far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
>>> the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
>>> self preservation instinct than most people...
 -Curt
 
   From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
 
 The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
>>> vehicles
 to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.
>>> Having
 had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
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>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>>> of the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

I am assuming the door checks are the same for the bulk of the cars from the /8 
to the 126.  At least from the box of the dang things I collected over the 
years.  Sadly, I sold all my parts last spring for no money.   If I find some 
when I hit the PnP I can share.

clay

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> 
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night

[clay via Mercedes]

I think you could smoke them if they were dried and flaked.  Not sure how the 
chemicals would do with fire.  Most effective is to consume internally in a tea 
or something that gets in the tummy.  The effects on lung tissue would not be 
pleasing

clay 



> On Nov 15, 2016, at 5:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm speaking from direct experience, but I'm not aware that smoking 
> mushrooms yields any psychoactive effects. I believe it only occurs when they 
> are consumed by eating
> 
> Dan who must not have been there because I don't remember it 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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 From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:51 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That would be my thought.  Nail through a cable somewhere maybe, or a 
staple cut through the insulation some and you're getting some bleed.


Not that I ever did anything like that to know for sure.

--FT


On 11/15/16 9:49 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Ground fault?

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:57:47 -0500
Meade Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:


Ceiling light fixture, has three small 15 watt bulbs, two were "out" so I
decided it was time for new bulbs.  Touching one of them caused it to light
up, indicating the base contacts are not contacting, so I decided to take
down the fixture and see if I could fix that.

Here's the strange part.  I shut off the switch that controls that light
fixture, and double checked with my Fluke to make sure the power is really
off, but the meter shows 14 VAC between the hot and the ground!

What is the cause of this?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Ground fault?

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:57:47 -0500
Meade Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:

> Ceiling light fixture, has three small 15 watt bulbs, two were "out" so I
> decided it was time for new bulbs.  Touching one of them caused it to light
> up, indicating the base contacts are not contacting, so I decided to take
> down the fixture and see if I could fix that.
> 
> Here's the strange part.  I shut off the switch that controls that light
> fixture, and double checked with my Fluke to make sure the power is really
> off, but the meter shows 14 VAC between the hot and the ground!
> 
> What is the cause of this?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I bought a bunch of parts from Sean - nice guy!

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan, et al.
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5837040639.html
>
> HTH.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan--- via
> Mercedes 
> Sent: 15 November 2016 10:16
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in
> the aftermarket.
>
> 123 730 03 16
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was correct about the 450SL

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Calling elections?  Nope, missed that one.
>
> Predicting auction results?  Nope, 280SE coupe went up to $19k, reserve not
> met.  450SL went for $13,250.
>
> What'll your third act be?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 250 SE coupe - some pluses and minuses.  Currently at $9 K.  Should stay
> > below $15 or someone is overpaying.
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-
> > 280se-coupe-w111-chassis/
> >
> > 1979 450 SL - concours ready, however BORING.  May eclipse $10K
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-r107-450sl-2/
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Inductive/capacitive coupling, probably.  Voltage means nothing,
voltage times current means everything.  A million volts at a picoamp
probably won't even tickle.

-- Jim
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[MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil sucker 
before I began.

Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter.  There was a 
spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the box and inspected 
it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or corroded.  No way I 
was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare went in.  Always good to 
have a spare!

Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken.  The metal 
cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see.  I used one of 
my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list) that I 
suspected were the same and it was.  It’s possible they’re slight slightly 
taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only difference.  Someone had 
already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing ring came out easy and 
was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it.

With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the intake out 
and cleaned it.  It was pretty clear with just a little bit of crud in it. This 
car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any effort so I’m sure the 
line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this weekend when I have more time.  I 
also noticed the ALDA is still sealed.

O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced - it’s NLA, but 
the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still available.  Another 
item for the parts list to call in tomorrow.

Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got four 
quarts in through the filter housing.  Put the new Mann filter in and closed 
things up.  Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid point of the dipstick 
and all was well.

Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable.  Put some protective goo on the 
terminals.

Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online order for some 
rust neutralizer I had sitting there.  Ran great with no problems.

Some observations:

Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover are nearly 
worn away.  I wonder if they’re still available?

Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the filter housing.  Not 
leaking, but the hose is pretty hard.  Another parts order item.

Would like to find one of the “flat” one piece breather tubes to replace the 
awful conglomeration of tubes, rubber elbows, clamps, etc. that are in place 
now.  I remember well when MB came out with the one piece flat rubber tube - 
it’s still in the EPC but doesn’t appear to be available any longer.

Spring for holding power steering filter in place is gone.  Another item for 
the morning’s parts order.

Just got a can of Diesel Purge tonight in UPS.  I was going to do a purge and 
fuel filters tomorrow, but with the cigar hose in questionable condition I may 
wait until I have the new hose.

Rockers are faded.  I’m wondering what color paint they were?  They weren’t 
black, more of a dark gray.  Easy/cheap fix and makes it look much nicer.

Enough for the day.  Time to play with Kitty and turn in.

Dan
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[MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ceiling light fixture, has three small 15 watt bulbs, two were "out" so I
decided it was time for new bulbs.  Touching one of them caused it to light
up, indicating the base contacts are not contacting, so I decided to take
down the fixture and see if I could fix that.

Here's the strange part.  I shut off the switch that controls that light
fixture, and double checked with my Fluke to make sure the power is really
off, but the meter shows 14 VAC between the hot and the ground!

What is the cause of this?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I took a quick look tonight, and the door check strap is still there, so I’m 
guessing there’s a good possibility that all the related stuff is there as 
well, but probably in the bottom of the door.

I just happen to have a spare W126 door check - I’ll compare when I remove this 
one to see if they’re the same.

More on tonight’s work after I run a couple of errands.

Dan


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 123, 124, 126: Steel, and big sliding UNLUBRICATED BB's; seizes
> 
> The balls are 15mm dia and can be ordered online 10 at a time.
> 
> In all but the FL POS, I have been able to rebuild them, slather them full of 
> Molykote BR2 gun grease, and NEVER have a failure again.  I had new ones fail 
> in under a year.  (a few months)   Some on the FL POS were so badly mangled I 
> had to throw them out, and the salvageable ones had balls missing.
> 
>> Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>> November 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM
>> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
>> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did. Never had to
>> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>> 
>> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
>> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
>> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got one from a 201 if somebody wants it...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Aren't they the same as a 126?  (without the cover) 110/111 on should 
bolt in.  different spring/stop mechanism, but interchangeable.  I think 
maybe 210 on might bolt in too.    Last I knew, new ones were available.

> Dan--- via Mercedes 
> November 15, 2016 at 9:16 AM
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't 
> exist in the aftermarket.
>
> 123 730 03 16
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, the 111/M180 (1962) was so quiet you could no hear it at idle.  It 
was disconcerting, because you couldn't tell the thing was running.  No 
vibration, no noise, nothing.



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 5:35 PM
My new e320 is so quiet I am thinking of making a recording of my OM617 to
play at idle. LOL.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My new e320 is so quiet I am thinking of making a recording of my OM617 to
play at idle. LOL.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 15, 2016 6:20 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That's funny
>
>
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> November 15, 2016 at 9:04 AM
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA
>> I'm told "laka laka" is "yummy, yummy" in the Netherlands.
>> -Curt
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

123, 124, 126: Steel, and big sliding UNLUBRICATED BB's; seizes

The balls are 15mm dia and can be ordered online 10 at a time.

In all but the FL POS, I have been able to rebuild them, slather them 
full of Molykote BR2 gun grease, and NEVER have a failure again.  I had 
new ones fail in under a year.  (a few months)   Some on the FL POS were 
so badly mangled I had to throw them out, and the salvageable ones had 
balls missing.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM
With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I 
don't see

how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did. Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Stupid Crypsler people!  They taught MB to rip off for parts so people 
junk perfectly good cars.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM
They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears 
don't have a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, 
but I haven't substantiated this.


The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the 
Mothership, nearly $250/each. No doubt the impetus for URO to make 
cheap knock-offs to take advantage of the market.


Dan

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Aren't they the same as a 126?  (without the cover) 110/111 on should 
bolt in.  different spring/stop mechanism, but interchangeable.  I think 
maybe 210 on might bolt in too.Last I knew, new ones were available.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 9:16 AM
Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't 
exist in the aftermarket.


123 730 03 16

Thanks,

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That's funny




Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 9:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA
I'm told "laka laka" is "yummy, yummy" in the Netherlands.
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I like that!   1


Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM
I agree. I almost got run over by one coming up behind me. My choice for
sound would be a 240D recording.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yeah, the frogs in Paree in 1970 had a habit of coasting down the narrow 
alleys at night with no lights.  It was really easy to get creamed by 
one of them in the big dirty city with no streetlights.


Part of why I never had any desire to ever go back to the big dirty 
city.I wanted them to be required to clip a picker card so it makes 
noise on bicycle spokes.  (Red green: tape a bike wheel to the back tire.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 7:59 AM
The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered 
vehicles to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you 
over.  Having had close encounters of the second kind more than once I 
can relate.




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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hey mister Tally Man

Or the updated (not Harry B) Hey Mister Tally Ban version  Both are 
great songs.

archer75--- via Mercedes 
November 14, 2016 at 11:57 PM
There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening 
to Harry Belafonte the other day.

Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its hard to slight somebody raising the price on something nobody else seems to 
want to sell. He's got to stock the item and hope he can sell enough of them to 
make a profit. After all you could always buy a couple thousand and play the 
game yourself.
In the end yeah he's doubled the price but on the other hand its still just 
$30...
-Curt

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Yeah, that's good old Ken - put out information that's readily available and 
charge exorbitant amounts for parts far cheaper elsewhere.

Gotta hand it to him, though, he's done a good job of marketing. And he's the 
only place you can get Monarch injector nozzles in the US.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> https://mercedessource.com/store/1980-1985-123-chassis-sedan-and-wagon-aftermarket-rear-door-check-strap
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, that's good old Ken - put out information that's readily available and 
charge exorbitant amounts for parts far cheaper elsewhere.

Gotta hand it to him, though, he's done a good job of marketing. And he's the 
only place you can get Monarch injector nozzles in the US.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://mercedessource.com/store/1980-1985-123-chassis-sedan-and-wagon-aftermarket-rear-door-check-strap

Rick
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[MBZ] Subject: W123 Parts

[Bob via Mercedes]

Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear  door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
the aftermarket.

123  730 03 16

Mercedessouce.com ??
 
Bob
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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Fine except that it is dark at like 5PM now, so it pretty much kills 
outside work.


--R


On 11/15/16 10:00 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, I need to get back out there.  How does Wednesday or Thursday evening look?

This weekend looks bad for me, Daughter has ballet practices / performances all 
weekend.


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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan, et al.

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5837040639.html

HTH.

Fred



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan--- via Mercedes 

Sent: 15 November 2016 10:16
To: Mercedes List
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] W123 Parts

Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in the 
aftermarket.

123 730 03 16

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Calling elections?  Nope, missed that one.

Predicting auction results?  Nope, 280SE coupe went up to $19k, reserve not
met.  450SL went for $13,250.

What'll your third act be?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 250 SE coupe - some pluses and minuses.  Currently at $9 K.  Should stay
> below $15 or someone is overpaying.
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-
> 280se-coupe-w111-chassis/
>
> 1979 450 SL - concours ready, however BORING.  May eclipse $10K
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-r107-450sl-2/
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Think of all the wear and tear they are subjected to.  If the front don't
fit head to the nearest Mercedes graveyard.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:51 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I took one apart and cleaned/greased it; and maybe also repaired it years
> ago, but I don't remember the details. I remember that they were tricky to
> take apart and put back together.
> Gerry
>
> > In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're
> not that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure.
> IIRC Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> >
> > They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't
> have a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I
> haven't substantiated this.
> >
> > The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the
> Mothership, nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap
> knock-offs to take advantage of the market.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the
> door checks.
> > > Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I
> put into the '78 probably came from the '83...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> > >
> > > NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I need one as well. Drivers side rear.
> > >>
> > >> Michael E. Esh
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't
> exist in the aftermarket.
> > >>>
> > >>> 123 730 03 16
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I took one apart and cleaned/greased it; and maybe also repaired it years ago, 
but I don't remember the details. I remember that they were tricky to take 
apart and put back together.
Gerry

> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> > checks.
> > Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put 
> > into the '78 probably came from the '83...
> > -Curt
> > 
> >      From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> > 
> > NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> >> 
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> >>> 
> >>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist 
> >>> in the aftermarket.
> >>> 
> >>> 123 730 03 16
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I never bother to read - exactly like Trump minus the alleged wealth.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> Again, there is some speculation that the fronts may fit the rears. I just
> ordered a URO from the Amazon to see.
>
> I'm not sure Meyle is any better than URO these days. Much of their stuff
> comes out of China.  I avoid it as I do URO.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Curt Raymond ; Jim Cathey <
> >> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> >>
> >> Available from Autohaus for $16.
> >> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
> >> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i&makeid=800016@Mercedes&
> >> modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@Door
> Check/Stop
> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't
> see
> >> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never
> had to
> >> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
> >>
> >> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> >> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> >> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Again, there is some speculation that the fronts may fit the rears. I just 
ordered a URO from the Amazon to see.

I'm not sure Meyle is any better than URO these days. Much of their stuff comes 
out of China.  I avoid it as I do URO.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curt Raymond ; Jim Cathey <
>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> Available from Autohaus for $16.
>> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
>> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i&makeid=800016@Mercedes&
>> modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@Door Check/Stop
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
>> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
>> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>> 
>> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
>> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
>> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Do you not read? FRONT door checks...
Rears are NLA.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curt Raymond ; Jim Cathey 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

Available from Autohaus for $16.
http://www.autohausaz.com/ search/product.aspx?sid= argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i& 
makeid=800016@Mercedes& modelid=1194320@300TDT&year= 
1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@ Door Check/Stop
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:

With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

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How about the okiebenz favorite?
>From TulsaOK - Leon Russel - RIP 13NOV16.
Nice musac.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Curt Raymond ; Jim Cathey <
> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> Available from Autohaus for $16.
> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i&makeid=800016@Mercedes&
> modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@Door Check/Stop
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>
> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curt Raymond ; Jim Cathey 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Available from Autohaus for $16.
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@Door
 Check/Stop
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:

With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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http://www.everythingbenz.com/z/part/1237300316-mercedes-door-check-stop

Dan wrote:
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

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J.S. Bach, F. Chopin, F. Schubert, R. Schumann, S. Rachmaninoff.

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>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > I don't think Harry is hispanic, he's a Carib
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> >
> >> On 11/15/16 12:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening to
> Harry Belafonte the other day.
> >> Gerry
> >> 
> >> OK Don wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did that a couple of years ago - even bought the albums. I found
> them far
> >>> simpler and less interesting than I had remembered them being. Oh well,
> >>> decades of Beethoven will do that to you . . .
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>  I just realized the other day I have not listed to any Herb Alpert
> and the
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Available from Autohaus for $16.

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=door@door&gid=11406@Door
Check/Stop

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> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>
> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

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A digital recording of a diesel idling would be perfect.

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> In NYC in the winter time you see mountain bikes with screws protruding
> from the knobbies for ice traction...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Meade Dillon 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
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>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>
> No headphone, but often a wool hat over ears to fend off frostbite.
> Farmer John knobby tires were all the rage on mountain bikes back then, I
> could get through the snow pretty well, ice was another story.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes
> sense, especially if you had headphones in.
> Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and
> all...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>
> A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that
> can completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days
> I rode a mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had
> to pay very close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they
> could overtake me and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
> --
> Max Dillon
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>
> On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I
> >was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
> >
> >In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
> >
> >moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
> >
> >In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right)
> >according to traffic law and common sense.
> >
> >In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made
> >absolutely no noticeable noise.
> >
> >--FT
> >
> >
> >On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
> >far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
> >the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
> >self preservation instinct than most people...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
> >>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
> >>
> >> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
> >vehicles
> >> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.
> >Having
> >> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
> >>
> >
> >--
> >--FT
> >Winston Churchill:
> >“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> >large or petty,
> >never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> >Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
> >of the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Agreed.

I haven't checked to see if the old one is still in place - I don't think it 
is, as the door swings freely.  Not something I paid a lot of attention to at 
the time.

I know they can be rebuilt, sort of.  I think that's what Jim did, or maybe 
Curly said something about it.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AMe 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Finding my way through a few parts I need.
 
 Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
 the aftermarket.
 
 123 730 03 16
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not that 
hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC Jim 
Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
-Curt

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have a 
partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
substantiated this.

The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
take advantage of the market.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> checks.
> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
> the '78 probably came from the '83...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>> the aftermarket.
>>> 
>>> 123 730 03 16
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have a 
partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
substantiated this.

The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
take advantage of the market.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> checks.
> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
> the '78 probably came from the '83...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>> the aftermarket.
>>> 
>>> 123 730 03 16
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I've done some research and seen references to the front door check working on 
the rear doors. However, there were also comments about the front door check 
being longer possibly.

As much as I detest the idea, URO sells front door checks for $16.00 on Amazon. 
As I get into this deeper I may throw caution to the wind and get one to see if 
the theory checks out.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
checks.
Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
the '78 probably came from the '83...
-Curt

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
NLA from the Classic Center, too.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

NLA from the Classic Center, too.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
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> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> 
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Being known as "Mr. Safety" around the house, it does have some value as I see 
it, but it's so damned ugly, and it's not stock.

I'm not going to tear it out yet. It's not working, either.

Dan

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> 
> Sharp looking car.  I don't understand the objections to the high-mount
> third brakelight, especially if it were functional.  Maybe it is a little
> tall?
> 
> "Safety is Paramount!"
> 
> I wonder if you could retrofit an MB version from a 124 or 126?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In NYC in the winter time you see mountain bikes with screws protruding from 
the knobbies for ice traction...
-Curt

  From: Meade Dillon 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
   
No headphone, but often a wool hat over ears to fend off frostbite.  Farmer 
John knobby tires were all the rage on mountain bikes back then, I could get 
through the snow pretty well, ice was another story.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes sense, 
especially if you had headphones in.
Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and all...
-Curt

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that can 
completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days I rode a 
mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had to pay very 
close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they could overtake me 
and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I
>was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
>
>In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
>
>moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
>
>In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right)
>according to traffic law and common sense.
>
>In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made
>absolutely no noticeable noise.
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
>far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
>the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
>self preservation instinct than most people...
>> -Curt
>>
>>        From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>>   
>> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
>vehicles
>> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.
>Having
>> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>>
>
>--
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>Winston Churchill:
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[MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in the 
aftermarket.

123 730 03 16

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sharp looking car.  I don't understand the objections to the high-mount
third brakelight, especially if it were functional.  Maybe it is a little
tall?

"Safety is Paramount!"

I wonder if you could retrofit an MB version from a 124 or 126?

-
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No headphone, but often a wool hat over ears to fend off frostbite.  Farmer
John knobby tires were all the rage on mountain bikes back then, I could
get through the snow pretty well, ice was another story.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes
> sense, especially if you had headphones in.
> Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and
> all...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>
> A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that
> can completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days
> I rode a mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had
> to pay very close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they
> could overtake me and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I
> >was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
> >
> >In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
> >
> >moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
> >
> >In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right)
> >according to traffic law and common sense.
> >
> >In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made
> >absolutely no noticeable noise.
> >
> >--FT
> >
> >
> >On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
> >far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
> >the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
> >self preservation instinct than most people...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
> >>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
> >>
> >> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
> >vehicles
> >> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.
> >Having
> >> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
> >>
> >
> >--
> >--FT
> >Winston Churchill:
> >“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> >large or petty,
> >never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> >Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
> >of the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes sense, 
especially if you had headphones in.
Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and all...
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
   
A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that can 
completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days I rode a 
mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had to pay very 
close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they could overtake me 
and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I 
>was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
>
>In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
>
>moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
>
>In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right) 
>according to traffic law and common sense.
>
>In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made 
>absolutely no noticeable noise.
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
>far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
>the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
>self preservation instinct than most people...
>> -Curt
>>
>>        From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>>    
>> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
>vehicles
>> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over. 
>Having
>> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>>
>
>-- 
>--FT
>Winston Churchill:
>“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>large or petty,
>never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>of the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Are you looking for one in good condition at a higher price or a fixer-upper?
Gerry

Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:

> The lighter is Uber  cool. That's the first time I've seen one for reals.
> 
> Can you remove that gawd-awful high brake light?
> 
> I want a W123 badly. My W210 is awesome, but it's not the same.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> On Nov 14, 2016 7:10 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> > You think?  It’s pretty beat up.
> >
> > Kinda cool, though.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:55 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That lighter is worth as much as the car
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA
I'm told "laka laka" is "yummy, yummy" in the Netherlands.
-Curt

  From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dwight Giles 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
   
I agree. I almost got run over by one coming up behind me. My choice for
sound would be a 240D recording.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 15, 2016 8:59 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered vehicles
> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.  Having
> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, I need to get back out there.  How does Wednesday or Thursday evening look?

This weekend looks bad for me, Daughter has ballet practices / performances all 
weekend.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 14, 2016 6:50:04 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The wheels on my old TD look pretty nice.  I'm not sure what the PO did
>
>to them but they have always looked like new.  I could be persuaded to 
>swap as I think I am going to dismantle it and haul it off, once
>another 
>one gets off my damn trailer
>
>--R
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I agree. I almost got run over by one coming up behind me. My choice for
sound would be a 240D recording.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 15, 2016 8:59 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered vehicles
> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.  Having
> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that can 
completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days I rode a 
mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had to pay very 
close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they could overtake me 
and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I 
>was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
>
>In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
>
>moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
>
>In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right) 
>according to traffic law and common sense.
>
>In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made 
>absolutely no noticeable noise.
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
>far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
>the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
>self preservation instinct than most people...
>> -Curt
>>
>>From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>>   Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
>>   Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>> 
>> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
>vehicles
>> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over. 
>Having
>> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
>>
>
>-- 
>--FT
>Winston Churchill:
>“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>large or petty,
>never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>of the enemy.”
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night

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http://www.businessinsider.com/mental-physical-effects-of-magic-mushrooms


> On November 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can eat any kind of mushroom once
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 11/15/16 8:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Not that I'm speaking from direct experience, but I'm not aware that smoking
> > mushrooms yields any psychoactive effects. I believe it only occurs when
> > they are consumed by eating
> >
> > Dan who must not have been there because I don't remember it
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>  Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:51 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I 
was making a turn, it tried to go around me.


In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I 
moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.


In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right) 
according to traffic law and common sense.


In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made 
absolutely no noticeable noise.


--FT


On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're far from 
silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in the world but I 
notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better self preservation 
instinct than most people...
-Curt

   From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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Cc: Floyd Thursby 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered vehicles

to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.  Having
had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.



--
--FT
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're far from 
silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in the world but I 
notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better self preservation 
instinct than most people...
-Curt

  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
   
The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered vehicles 
to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.  Having 
had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.

-- 
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I experienced that when I got the Jetta, to go from a 123 to a 201 to a 3rd gen 
Jetta to the 4th gen Golf has been interesting. Each is a step up in comfort, 
quiet and power. Of the 4 I like the 123 and the 3rd gen Jetta the best. Both 
are a little rattly, fairly simple and easy to maintain.
I'm on the lookout for another 3rd gen Jetta or 4th gen Passat (which is the 
same as a 3rd gen Jetta) TDI, mine is seriously rusty...
-Curt

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash
   
Yeah, that third brake light is super socks. Doesn't work, either, so it's 
coming out.

It's really weird now that I have multiple generations at one time. The W123 is 
so bare bones basic, noisy, etc., then you get into the W126 and it's so much 
better appointed and quieter, then move to the W140 and its a level even higher 
than the W126.

I'm trying to find information on the lighter but not having much luck.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The lighter is Uber  cool. That's the first time I've seen one for reals.
> 
> Can you remove that gawd-awful high brake light?
> 
> I want a W123 badly. My W210 is awesome, but it's not the same.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> On Nov 14, 2016 7:10 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> You think?  It’s pretty beat up.
>> 
>> Kinda cool, though.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:55 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> That lighter is worth as much as the car
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night

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I think it's mushrooms laced with lsd or something similar.

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm speaking from direct experience, but I'm not aware that smoking 
> mushrooms yields any psychoactive effects. I believe it only occurs when they 
> are consumed by eating
> 
> Dan who must not have been there because I don't remember it 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

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Nope, he is black from New York. He just sang Caribbean songs. 

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> I don't think Harry is hispanic, he's a Carib
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 11/15/16 12:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening to 
>> Harry Belafonte the other day.
>> Gerry
>> 
>> OK Don wrote:
>> 
>>> I did that a couple of years ago - even bought the albums. I found them far
>>> simpler and less interesting than I had remembered them being. Oh well,
>>> decades of Beethoven will do that to you . . .
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I just realized the other day I have not listed to any Herb Alpert and the
 Tijuana Brass music in years. I don't know why that came to mind but it's
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You can eat any kind of mushroom once

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On 11/15/16 8:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Not that I'm speaking from direct experience, but I'm not aware that smoking 
mushrooms yields any psychoactive effects. I believe it only occurs when they 
are consumed by eating

Dan who must not have been there because I don't remember it

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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Dayo

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> On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
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> 
> There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening to Harry 
> Belafonte the other day.
> Gerry
> 
> OK Don wrote:
> 
>> I did that a couple of years ago - even bought the albums. I found them far
>> simpler and less interesting than I had remembered them being. Oh well,
>> decades of Beethoven will do that to you . . .
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just realized the other day I have not listed to any Herb Alpert and the
>>> Tijuana Brass music in years. I don't know why that came to mind but it's
>>> time I either break out the albums or buys some cds or downloads.
>>> 
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>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked mushrooms last night

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Not that I'm speaking from direct experience, but I'm not aware that smoking 
mushrooms yields any psychoactive effects. I believe it only occurs when they 
are consumed by eating

Dan who must not have been there because I don't remember it 

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[MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered vehicles 
to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.  Having 
had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.


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[MBZ] Roof Rack Crossbars for Andrew

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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, that third brake light is super socks. Doesn't work, either, so it's 
coming out.

It's really weird now that I have multiple generations at one time. The W123 is 
so bare bones basic, noisy, etc., then you get into the W126 and it's so much 
better appointed and quieter, then move to the W140 and its a level even higher 
than the W126.

I'm trying to find information on the lighter but not having much luck.

Dan

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> 
> The lighter is Uber  cool. That's the first time I've seen one for reals.
> 
> Can you remove that gawd-awful high brake light?
> 
> I want a W123 badly. My W210 is awesome, but it's not the same.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> On Nov 14, 2016 7:10 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> You think?  It’s pretty beat up.
>> 
>> Kinda cool, though.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:55 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
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>>> That lighter is worth as much as the car
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Before & After - Wash

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The lighter is Uber  cool. That's the first time I've seen one for reals.

Can you remove that gawd-awful high brake light?

I want a W123 badly. My W210 is awesome, but it's not the same.

Bob R

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> You think?  It’s pretty beat up.
>
> Kinda cool, though.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:55 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I don't think Harry is hispanic, he's a Carib

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On 11/15/16 12:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening to Harry 
Belafonte the other day.
Gerry

OK Don wrote:


I did that a couple of years ago - even bought the albums. I found them far
simpler and less interesting than I had remembered them being. Oh well,
decades of Beethoven will do that to you . . .

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I just realized the other day I have not listed to any Herb Alpert and the
Tijuana Brass music in years. I don't know why that came to mind but it's
time I either break out the albums or buys some cds or downloads.

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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

I spent a good bit of time in Puerto Rico in 1977. Out in the country side, not 
San Juan. It cured me of any desires for Spanish music. Although I did find the 
colorful fire stations very interesting architecture. 
Just another perspective.. 
Best Wishes, 
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Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past

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That's OK. I was listening to Frank (Sinatra) the other day. 

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There must be a Hispanic virus going around. Caught myself listening to Harry 
> Belafonte the other day.
> Gerry
> 
> OK Don wrote:
> 
>> I did that a couple of years ago - even bought the albums. I found them far
>> simpler and less interesting than I had remembered them being. Oh well,
>> decades of Beethoven will do that to you . . .
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just realized the other day I have not listed to any Herb Alpert and the
>>> Tijuana Brass music in years. I don't know why that came to mind but it's
>>> time I either break out the albums or buys some cds or downloads.
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>> for themselves."
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