[MBZ] Mayan Gold

[clay via Mercedes]

… is not the gold I thought it would be.  Very red, into orange.

Summit racing had a deal on single stage gold paint for $130/gal.  I was not 
interested in paying twice that for a two stage base and then getting clear as 
well.  But, I ended up ordering clear anyway, just in case.

So, Allen came to me in original MB gold for 1982.  Not sure the code, but the 
clear was trashed and there was much damage to paint as well as pitting and 
scratches.  I did not want to get crazy or go overboard in making the car a DD. 
 The paint would need attention, since the body and interior are in rather good 
form.  No rust at all, most systems working, spare parts came with the free 
car, engine runs and transmission shifts.  It was really just a bunch of PnP 
updating.

The paint. though, was another game altogether.  I had done rattle can on 
Polei, and that was not going to play for a DD.  I learned all the what not to 
do with that car.  A real gun spray was the only solution.  Would I send it out 
or do it my own self was the question.  I looked into cost for pro job as well 
as pro paint.  Maaco single stage was about the same cost as a gallon of base 
coat, but I did not want to pay that much for a half donkey job. I am able to 
do that level for less.

Except, I ended up spending about what I would have paid them to do the job 
myself.

I had to source all my own tools and the prep items, which made for a pretty 
good chunk of change.  Upgrades to the compressor set up, guns, paint, prep 
items.  Then I needed a paint booth.  Rent one for a couple days, or ask mother 
if her garage might do?  The bottom feeder in me went with Mom’s two car garage.

Tape, staples, 7 mil visquine, a box fan, some furnace filters, old bedsheets, 
a heater, a pair of Ikea lights, paper suit, full face chemical respirator, and 
the paint stuff, and  I was good to go.  I spent most of the day setting up the 
paint area and masking off the car.  By the time I got it all put right, it was 
past dinner, but still light enough for a novice idiot to attempt a spray.

Turned out it was too dark to see properly and lighting is really key to being 
able to tell what you are doing.  Space is another thing you can never have 
enough of.  Wetting the floor is a very smart thing to do, otherwise your feet 
and socks end up stuck to the floor after a while.  The paper monkey suits are  
not built with sturdy zippers, so you have to tape yourself in and then do the 
pee-pee dance the rest of the spray and clean up, until you can escape.  If you 
remove all the dangly bits and extraneous matter, you are less likely to have 
bald spots or need to clean paint off things later.  Use a primer coat all over 
the car and do not attempt last minute spot fixes, as you will be fixing drips, 
runs and smears, as well as finding that the stuff below telegraphs.  Plastic 
is a crap wall and will ripple and flap, such that it contacts your freshest 
paint.  Somehow, a drip/drop will plop in the middle of your largest or least 
accessible horizontal surface.

The car came out looking good.  A veritable 15 footer if looked at in low 
light.  I am sure that I could have paid less for a class on how to do it 
properly, but I know I would not have learned as much that way. Should I do 
this again (which may be more likely than I am going to admit right now) I will 
rent the booth so that I have the best environment to do a poor execution.  It 
might just be worth $80 a day to be able to strip down the car, mask it well, 
and then take less than an hour to spray it in the best possible way I can.  
Then I can clean up at a bench instead of sitting on the cement patio in the 
dark, blindly trying to clean my gun.  The next morning, I can be fresh and 
carefully put the car all back together.  A person really does need to pretty 
much tear the thing apart so you can put paint in all the places it needs to be.

Pix will be posting on BW.

link to follow



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Quench with Kroil!

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[MBZ] Not quite up to Martha standards

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6173396689.html


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[MBZ] coupe for Rick

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https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6163291067.html

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[MBZ] Hey Max and Floyd!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just the thing for your Buggered and Bent Benz Barn(TM)

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/6166609736.html

IT'LL  make andrew cry!

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[MBZ] Hey Kleb! Going to Dallas soon?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/6175648829.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles - $1995

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Methinks at $900, he is going to be sitting on the hecky-poleetas for a 
long time.



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June 14, 2017 at 8:48 PM

1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles -
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6155104641.html


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[MBZ] 1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles - $1995

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles -
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6155104641.html

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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Could be. People are idiots.

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> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe he sold it and didn’t take down the ad.  That makes me crazy.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess he doesn't want to sell it that bad. I will try calling him.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.
>>> 
>>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

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Maybe he sold it and didn’t take down the ad.  That makes me crazy.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess he doesn't want to sell it that bad. I will try calling him.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.
>> 
>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

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I guess he doesn't want to sell it that bad. I will try calling him.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.
> 
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe. If you talk to the guy and want me to check it out let me know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What do you think o cyou can get it for? $3500?
>>> 
>>> They need more pictures and to explain what the “electrical issues” were… 
>>> otherwise it looks like a pretty nice car.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 We do not have rust issues here. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I would be concerned about rust in all the usual places if it’s from your 
> neighborhood.
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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

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I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html



> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Maybe. If you talk to the guy and want me to check it out let me know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you think o cyou can get it for? $3500?
>> 
>> They need more pictures and to explain what the “electrical issues” were… 
>> otherwise it looks like a pretty nice car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We do not have rust issues here. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I would be concerned about rust in all the usual places if it’s from your 
 neighborhood.
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is putting a 110 on the top front of a car carrier as bad as putting an MG 
above and in front of all the other cars?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Cheap radiators

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well the cheap eBay radiator lasted less than  a week. Looks like the stupid 
boy may have hit something again because when I looked at the car the radiator 
was loose from the top clips and pushed back. It does not appear the fan 
contacted the radiator though as I don't see any damage. There is a huge stream 
pissing out near the top next to the passenger side tank. I can't tell for sure 
but depending on how long he drove it could have blown a head gasket. It did 
start right up and seems to run fine and I don't see any water in oil or oil in 
coolant. I guess I'm going to raise hell with the eBay guy and tell the kid he 
is going to have to pay for the real deal. I should have known better but was 
trying to save him money. 

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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have had incredible success with welding a nut on a broken bolt using a
wire feed welder with the nut held in position with pliers and the wire
inserted inside the nut so the weld is captured within the nut. Then pull
the weld trigger and make a weld puddle inside the nut.

I've used this trick on broken bolts that were overhead and in impossible
positions to drill. So far.. the welding heat traveled down the broken
seized bolt and broke the rust bond on the threads allowing the bolt to be
turned out with a socket on the "new nut".

One trick that really seems to help is a quick quench with water while the
weld is still glowing hot. Seems to shrink the bolt in place and break the
bond better.

Good luck. Play safe.


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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 14/06/2017 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to
>> get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which will be
>> after I get it running, if I get it running.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> Sounds like a good opportunity to weld a nut on the end and use that to
> turn it out.
> Heat from the weld will loosen the threads as well.
> More difficult to do if the bolt is broken off below the surface but
> should be fairly easy if it is flush.
>
> RB
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[MBZ] FCP Euro Benz parts clearance

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ll keep an eye out and my shears sharpened.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> I thought you'd enjoy seeing it!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Forget the Crack, I'm Huffing Krylon Now...

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Tin man sez:

>‎Was that image an attachment?

Yes. As is this. 



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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I thought you'd enjoy seeing it!

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Re: [MBZ] Forget the Crack, I'm Huffing Krylon Now...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Any message below 40k in size goes through without approval, I believe.  Kaleb 
can confirm that.  If it’s bigger you’ll hit the queue and get a notification.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> Rick wrote:
>> Why?
>> 
>> My phone asks if I want a picture attachment resized ‎and I pick "small".
>> 
>> Simple.
> 
> Was that image an attachment? - probably not since it appeared without
> ListMom...
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Re: [MBZ] Forget the Crack, I'm Huffing Krylon Now...

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Rick wrote:
> Why?
>
> My phone asks if I want a picture attachment resized ‎and I pick "small".
>
> Simple.

Was that image an attachment? - probably not since it appeared without
ListMom...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

RESPONSE TO QUERY:

Rich the cars don't run but we have the title for both and one 
is missing the key.  The car is located in charleston. I have to have them gone 
by noon Saturday

I'm thinking scrap prices for them, $500 max depending, and probably not even 
that. maybe not even $400.  Car(s)???  Of course he is not specific as to where 
they are, or when I could look at them, per my query.  I don't think I am 
dealing with a Rhodes Scholar here...

--FT


On 6/14/17 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.


On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan!

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I’ll keep an eye out for it…

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> #1 Daughter saw a light colored (creme/tan) 110 Diesel on the top, front of a 
> car carrier truck headed east on I-10.  It sounds a LOT like the chewbacca CA 
> car!   Maybe it it coming to FL to haunt you!
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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/06/2017 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to 
get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which 
will be after I get it running, if I get it running.


--FT

Sounds like a good opportunity to weld a nut on the end and use that to 
turn it out.

Heat from the weld will loosen the threads as well.
More difficult to do if the bolt is broken off below the surface but 
should be fairly easy if it is flush.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You could put $2k in this car easy and it would still be a turd.  Lots of 
cosmetic issues.

I could probably get this car for $2500:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6134247500.html

It needs a new IR remote/fob and some serious clean up in the interior, but 
it’s intact and everything works on it.  Even has the optional lumbar supports, 
which I have yet to see in any other car I’ve looked at.  Paint and mechanicals 
are good, but since it’s a 97 it’s got an M104 and not the M112.  I don’t think 
it would bring more than $3500 on a really good day, though.

I’m learning that W210s are flipping ubiquitous when it comes to later model 
used sedans.  There’s boatloads of the things and most are pretty awful. The 
really nice ones don’t seem to carry their part of the market because they’re 
older, simple, nowhere near as luxurious as an S-class, and pretty much don’t 
hold any significant value.

-D




> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should buy it for $2k.  Flip it on BAT for 6 k.  build your Heckflosse 
> fund while you wait!
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> June 14, 2017 at 2:36 PM
>> Went to look at this car today for grins:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6175895598.html
>> 
>> Understand that this car is in one of the “Old money trendiest” 
>> neighborhoods int eh area, South Tampa. The house was easily a $1,000,000 
>> house.
>> 
>> OMG. It had been parked for nine months. Trunk needed a repaint, as it had 
>> been repainted previously. OK, I could easily deal with that. Interior was 
>> scruffy.
>> 
>> I had been texting back and forth with the owner, as they said they had just 
>> put a new battery in the car and it wouldn’t start. Knowing what I do about 
>> the “smart keys” of that vintage I was undeterred.
>> 
>> So I start looking around and see that the back seat is out of the car and 
>> the battery is there, disconnected. I open the door and take a closer look. 
>> It’s in backwards.
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Oh Dan!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

#1 Daughter saw a light colored (creme/tan) 110 Diesel on the top, front 
of a car carrier truck headed east on I-10.  It sounds a LOT like the 
chewbacca CA car!   Maybe it it coming to FL to haunt you!


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[MBZ] Secret message for Max and Floyd!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Possible names for your new enterprise:

Buggered and Bent Benz Barn (TM)

Buggered and Bent

Gebummelt und Verbogen Benz (Buggered and Bent)

Getrankt Gelandewagen

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Re: [MBZ] SECRiT MESAGE FOR MAX Re: Temptation

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Alligator Acres?
~~~
> You two are rapidly becoming the Okie Acres of the eastern seaboard…
> Not that there’s anything wrong with that….
> -D

> > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > If I don't get an email response soon I'll ring him up, maybe see about 
> > tomorrow?  If nothing else that maroon one has a good set of wheels I could 
> > put on the SEC, or the black one is a bit more pimpish but might look good. 
> >  $500 for the pair?  I bet we could do it, sell an engine to Curley for 
> > $600!  (Don't tell him!)
> > 
> > I know where there is a dead 560SEL on James I that looks like has been 
> > sitting forever behind a fish shack over there in a black area but 
> > otherwise in not bad shape.  I am going to see about taking a look at it 
> > too, a friend knows someone in the family or something to do with the fish 
> > shack, I know her vaguely in passing so might be able to work something 
> > out.  She is an agitator too, so we have that commonality.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to 
get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which will 
be after I get it running, if I get it running.


--FT


On 6/14/17 5:23 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Mitch wrote:
Unless it breaks flush with the hole, it's hard to center the
bit in a broken bolt.

I got this kit that has drill guides for either protruding or
recessed bolts.  It doesn't help when it's truly flush.

https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-04200A-Extractor-Broken-Remover/dp/B006YDQ812/

It worked very well for me when I was removing a broken starter
motor bold and then installing a big-sert from http://www.timesert.com/.

I _really_ wanted it to be in the same spot as the original - and
from all I can tell it was a complete success.


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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You should buy it for $2k.  Flip it on BAT for 6 k.  build your 
Heckflosse fund while you wait!



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 2:36 PM
Went to look at this car today for grins:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6175895598.html

Understand that this car is in one of the “Old money trendiest” 
neighborhoods int eh area, South Tampa. The house was easily a 
$1,000,000 house.


OMG. It had been parked for nine months. Trunk needed a repaint, as it 
had been repainted previously. OK, I could easily deal with that. 
Interior was scruffy.


I had been texting back and forth with the owner, as they said they 
had just put a new battery in the car and it wouldn’t start. Knowing 
what I do about the “smart keys” of that vintage I was undeterred.


So I start looking around and see that the back seat is out of the car 
and the battery is there, disconnected. I open the door and take a 
closer look. It’s in backwards.





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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mitch wrote:

> Unless it breaks flush with the hole, it's hard to center the
> bit in a broken bolt.

I got this kit that has drill guides for either protruding or
recessed bolts.  It doesn't help when it's truly flush.

https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-04200A-Extractor-Broken-Remover/dp/B006YDQ812/

It worked very well for me when I was removing a broken starter
motor bold and then installing a big-sert from http://www.timesert.com/.

I _really_ wanted it to be in the same spot as the original - and
from all I can tell it was a complete success.


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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I suspect with 1000# in the bed you'd want them ;)
-CurtWho has repeatedly way overloaded his Dodge 1500 but never as badly over 
as hauling firewood in a Ranger...


  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt
   
Lugnuts are over rated. I drove my F150 for a day with only 1 on each of 
the left side wheels.
No idea why Ford put 6 on each wheel.

RB

On 14/06/2017 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> My 84 190D had a stripped bolt hole in each rear hub. I put 90,000 miles on 
> it like that...
> Might see if a sharp chisel could tap out the broken one. Try a little heat 
> and oil first.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>  
>    On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
>Mercedes wrote:  I was taking a wheel off the 
>$200POSEL, looks like they had put the
> original spare on and did not tighten the bolts as it was a bit wobbly
> on there.  Anyway, getting the bolts out was hard, they were really
> rusted in there, and one sheared off in the hub.  I guess that means
> that I will need to drill it out if I decide to do something with the
> car, and then chase the other holes with a tap?  And the lug bolts are
> half rusty where they were not fully seated, I have never done that
> electrolysis thing but wonder if that might be the way to clean them up
> unless they are some weird metal or plated or galvanized or something?
> Any ideas?
>


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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Doesn’t matter - this thing was a total POS.

But that is good to know.  Sounds like the same as the PSE pump in the W140s.  
Thanks!

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If no acc action at all the pump under the seat is not working, or the main 
> line under the carpet to the acc might be leaking 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If no acc action at all the pump under the seat is not working, or the main 
line under the carpet to the acc might be leaking 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> Went to look at this car today for grins:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6175895598.html
> 
> Understand that this car is in one of the “Old money trendiest” neighborhoods 
> int eh area, South Tampa.  The house was easily a $1,000,000 house.
> 
> OMG.  It had been parked for nine months.  Trunk needed a repaint, as it had 
> been repainted previously.  OK, I could easily deal with that.  Interior was 
> scruffy.
> 
> I had been texting back and forth with the owner, as they said they had just 
> put a new battery in the car and it wouldn’t start.  Knowing what I do about 
> the “smart keys” of that vintage I was undeterred.
> 
> So I start looking around and see that the back seat is out of the car and 
> the battery is there, disconnected.  I open the door and take a closer look.  
> It’s in backwards.
> 
> 
> 
> Owner’s kids had been trying to connect it backwards….
> 
> I turn it around and hook it up, tighten the terminals with the tools they 
> had lying there.  Sit in the driver’s seat, cranks right up.
> 
> Engine sounds like a sewing machine. No doubt some sticky lifters after 
> sitting for almost a year.  No AC.  Vents blow out of the defrost, nothing 
> moves or changes in different ACC modes.
> 
> What a POS. But hey!  We’ve got full service records!
> 
> I told him to describe it accurately and list it for $2000 and he might get 
> lucky.  He thanked me and apologized for wasting my time.
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] W210 4Matic

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Went to look at this car today for grins:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6175895598.html

Understand that this car is in one of the “Old money trendiest” neighborhoods 
int eh area, South Tampa.  The house was easily a $1,000,000 house.

OMG.  It had been parked for nine months.  Trunk needed a repaint, as it had 
been repainted previously.  OK, I could easily deal with that.  Interior was 
scruffy.

I had been texting back and forth with the owner, as they said they had just 
put a new battery in the car and it wouldn’t start.  Knowing what I do about 
the “smart keys” of that vintage I was undeterred.

So I start looking around and see that the back seat is out of the car and the 
battery is there, disconnected.  I open the door and take a closer look.  It’s 
in backwards.



Owner’s kids had been trying to connect it backwards….

I turn it around and hook it up, tighten the terminals with the tools they had 
lying there.  Sit in the driver’s seat, cranks right up.

Engine sounds like a sewing machine. No doubt some sticky lifters after sitting 
for almost a year.  No AC.  Vents blow out of the defrost, nothing moves or 
changes in different ACC modes.

What a POS. But hey!  We’ve got full service records!

I told him to describe it accurately and list it for $2000 and he might get 
lucky.  He thanked me and apologized for wasting my time.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Lugnuts are over rated. I drove my F150 for a day with only 1 on each of 
the left side wheels.

No idea why Ford put 6 on each wheel.

RB

On 14/06/2017 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

My 84 190D had a stripped bolt hole in each rear hub. I put 90,000 miles on it 
like that...
Might see if a sharp chisel could tap out the broken one. Try a little heat and 
oil first.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
  
   On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:   I was taking a wheel off the $200POSEL, looks like they had put the

original spare on and did not tighten the bolts as it was a bit wobbly
on there.  Anyway, getting the bolts out was hard, they were really
rusted in there, and one sheared off in the hub.  I guess that means
that I will need to drill it out if I decide to do something with the
car, and then chase the other holes with a tap?  And the lug bolts are
half rusty where they were not fully seated, I have never done that
electrolysis thing but wonder if that might be the way to clean them up
unless they are some weird metal or plated or galvanized or something?
Any ideas?




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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Soak it with Kroil for a day or two.  If that doesn’t loosen it, it’s not 
coming out.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Unless it breaks flush with the hole, it's hard to center the bit in a broken 
> bolt. Maybe grind a hollow in the middle with a dremel to start the bit?
> 
> And always remember, left hand drill bits are your friend. Nothing beats 
> having the bolt spin out of the hole while you're trying to drill it because 
> your left hand bit got stuck in it.
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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/06/2017 1:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Unless it breaks flush with the hole, it's hard to center the bit in a broken 
bolt. Maybe grind a hollow in the middle with a dremel to start the bit?

And always remember, left hand drill bits are your friend. Nothing beats having 
the bolt spin out of the hole while you're trying to drill it because your left 
hand bit got stuck in it.

___

The problem that I have with left hand drill bits is that the chuck 
comes loose because the drill is running in reverse.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Unless it breaks flush with the hole, it's hard to center the bit in a broken 
bolt. Maybe grind a hollow in the middle with a dremel to start the bit?

And always remember, left hand drill bits are your friend. Nothing beats having 
the bolt spin out of the hole while you're trying to drill it because your left 
hand bit got stuck in it.

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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or pua-y

Trigger warning! (it is a triggerfish with a face like a pua.)


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM
Curley.

Sounds fishy.

Fred,


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curley.

Sounds fishy.

Fred,


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curley McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 14 June 2017 13:07
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all No low ballers 
call for more information hmu

Nope!   It swims on its own.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

IST NICHT IN ORDNUNG!!!

--FT


On 6/14/17 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

It amazes me the number of people who just don't want anybody else to enjoy 
themselves.
I'm fighting with the state right now. I booked the group area at a local 
campground for the Coleman Convention. Lined up a guy with a big tent so we can 
hang out and stay out of the hot sun or rain. Now the park says the group site 
is half of what it looks like it is and any big tent needs a special permit AND 
needs to be taken down at night.
I think I'm wearing him down, I asked if I slept under the tent if I could keep 
it up at night, he won't even respond to that question. Time to pay him a visit 
in person. He'd suggested the idea of my visiting but now only wants me to 
call. He's being unreasonable and knows it...
-Curt


   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies

Go figger.  Sanity won out in the end!


The busybodies are loose losers.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 12:35 PM
https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/CultureShock/archives/2017/06/14/mt-pleasant-town-council-votes-to-keep-moes-mural




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--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It amazes me the number of people who just don't want anybody else to enjoy 
themselves.
I'm fighting with the state right now. I booked the group area at a local 
campground for the Coleman Convention. Lined up a guy with a big tent so we can 
hang out and stay out of the hot sun or rain. Now the park says the group site 
is half of what it looks like it is and any big tent needs a special permit AND 
needs to be taken down at night.
I think I'm wearing him down, I asked if I slept under the tent if I could keep 
it up at night, he won't even respond to that question. Time to pay him a visit 
in person. He'd suggested the idea of my visiting but now only wants me to 
call. He's being unreasonable and knows it...
-Curt


  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies
   
Go figger.  Sanity won out in the end!

The busybodies are loose losers.

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> June 14, 2017 at 12:35 PM
> https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/CultureShock/archives/2017/06/14/mt-pleasant-town-council-votes-to-keep-moes-mural
>  
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

When the EZ out breaks throw things in disgust.
Actually when using an EZ out remember to drill the hole as big as possible, 
large EZ outs work pretty well, small ones are very easy to break.
-Curt


  From: Meade Dillon 
 To: "curtlud...@yahoo.com" ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt
   
Heat with a torch, then melt some candle wax into it, then drill hole and 
easy-out...

-
Max
Charleston SC




   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Go figger.  Sanity won out in the end!

The busybodies are loose losers.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 12:35 PM
https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/CultureShock/archives/2017/06/14/mt-pleasant-town-council-votes-to-keep-moes-mural 






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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

nope.  I wrote, it, but I didn't name it.  It is the triggerfish with a 
snout like a pig.


It is the state fish.


The "gospel" according to wikipedia:
The reef, rectangular, or wedge-tail triggerfish, also known by its 
Hawaiian name humuhumunukunukua-pua?a (pronounced 
[?humu?humu?nuku?nuku?wa?pu?w???] and meaning "triggerfish with a snout 
like a pig"[1]), also spelled humuhumunukunukuapua'a or just humuhumu 
for short, is one of several species of triggerfish. Classified as 
Rhinecanthus rectangulus, it is found at reefs in the Indo-Pacific[2] 
and is the state fish of Hawaii. It is often asserted that the Hawaiian 
name is one of the longest words in the Hawaiian language and that "the 
name is longer than the fish," though Lauwiliwilinukunuku?oi?oi is 
actually a longer fish name.[3]



Dr Uku Lele is no where to be found in the water.  Try this link for him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I=PL76AB9A859DBBE61C

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 12:25 PM
Was that written by Dr. U K Lele?

--FT




Curley McLain 
June 14, 2017 at 12:07 PM
Nope!   It swims on its own.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Curley.

"Humuhumunukunukuapua'a"

Nice. But can you play it on a piano?

Fred


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all No low 
ballers call for more information hmu


Humuhumunukunukuapua'a

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Curley McLain 
June 14, 2017 at 11:32 AM
Humuhumunukunukuapua'a


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM
hmu!   hmu!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131762336.html



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[MBZ] OT Speaking of busybodies

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/CultureShock/archives/2017/06/14/mt-pleasant-town-council-votes-to-keep-moes-mural


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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Heat with a torch, then melt some candle wax into it, then drill hole and
easy-out...

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Was that written by Dr. U K Lele?

--FT


On 6/14/17 1:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Nope! It swims on its own.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Curley.

"Humuhumunukunukuapua'a"

Nice. But can you play it on a piano?

Fred


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] SC T Bird on BAT

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

i have a cachet of cars

--FT


On 6/14/17 12:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Five figures more likely.  5 speeds are hard to find and oozing with cachet.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Not that far away, either.  Not a bad car, but it’s going to end up going
for stupid money.  I’ll guess it will sell for over $7500.

-D



On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

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How about this one for the Poosboy?  This looks nice and in flahduh too!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-230ce/

--FT


On 6/14/17 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like a sweet ride and unless the bidding explodes someone will

steal

this car.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-4/

Or if the reserve isn't met and someone lives near Greenville  - wanna

take

a look?
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nope!   It swims on its own.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Curley.

"Humuhumunukunukuapua'a"

Nice. But can you play it on a piano?

Fred


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Re: [MBZ] SC T Bird on BAT

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Five figures more likely.  5 speeds are hard to find and oozing with cachet.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not that far away, either.  Not a bad car, but it’s going to end up going
> for stupid money.  I’ll guess it will sell for over $7500.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How about this one for the Poosboy?  This looks nice and in flahduh too!
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-230ce/
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 6/14/17 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Looks like a sweet ride and unless the bidding explodes someone will
> steal
> >> this car.
> >> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-4/
> >>
> >> Or if the reserve isn't met and someone lives near Greenville  - wanna
> take
> >> a look?
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> large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] For the boypoos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I asked him - he said if he was still doing his DJ thing he would be up for it, 
but it’s not something he’s interested in now.

Whatever.  Too bad - looks like a really nice car for the $$.

-D
 
> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This looks pretty good and cheep money.  The location is a fairly high-rent 
> area.  Get him a shaggin waggin!  And he can haul 6 more of his buddies 
> around.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6166581769.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My 84 190D had a stripped bolt hole in each rear hub. I put 90,000 miles on it 
like that...
Might see if a sharp chisel could tap out the broken one. Try a little heat and 
oil first.
Curt

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  On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   I was taking a wheel off the 
$200POSEL, looks like they had put the 
original spare on and did not tighten the bolts as it was a bit wobbly 
on there.  Anyway, getting the bolts out was hard, they were really 
rusted in there, and one sheared off in the hub.  I guess that means 
that I will need to drill it out if I decide to do something with the 
car, and then chase the other holes with a tap?  And the lug bolts are 
half rusty where they were not fully seated, I have never done that 
electrolysis thing but wonder if that might be the way to clean them up 
unless they are some weird metal or plated or galvanized or something?  
Any ideas?

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I think it's the other way around... ;)

Curt

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  On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via 
Mercedes wrote:   A Cadillac Converter?  I wonder if I 
got one whether I could convert my wife's Cadillac into a Mercedes?  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:50 AM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html

-D




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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curley.

"Humuhumunukunukuapua'a"

Nice. But can you play it on a piano?

Fred


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Sent: 14 June 2017 12:32
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all No low ballers 
call for more information hmu

Humuhumunukunukuapua'a

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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Humuhumunukunukuapua'a


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM
hmu!   hmu!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131762336.html



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

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I meant the Mercedes in the link.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:

> You mean my wife’s Cadillac?  It is Silver just like a million others.
>
>
>
> As much as I dislike the car, it has its merits.  It is loaded with
> goodies and still looks pretty good.  It must be built pretty well because
> she has been rear-ended in it twice.  Once she was sitting at a stoplight
> and an ice cream truck ran into her.  Seriously an ice cream truck.
> Bashed up the rear bumper and a couple minor things underneath.   Then,
> less than 6 months later a young couple crashed pretty hard into her.  It
> totaled their car – an older Nissan Maxima.  It needed a new bumper again
> but it also banged up the exhaust and the rear axle.  It was a pretty hefty
> bill for their insurance company.  She and my stepdaughter were not hurt in
> the crash.   I hate the engine.  It has the 3.6 DOHC that has serious
> timing chain issues.   We got GM to repair it once, but I don’t know if the
> gears/chain/tensioner have been updated to fix the flaw.  Other than the
> timing chain, it has been fairly reliable.  It has over 125,000 miles.
>
>
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:02 AM
> *To:* Mercedes Discussion List 
> *Cc:* Donald Snook 
> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?
>
>
>
> Is it blue or green?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> A Cadillac Converter?  I wonder if I got one whether I could convert my
> wife's Cadillac into a Mercedes?
>
> Don Snook
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:50 AM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a good deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not bad, priced a little high, maybe not too much considering the miles.  It’s 
probably going to need top cylinders, too, which is a good $700 and a couple 
days worth of work, but not difficult.

I’d say $4000, maybe $4500 would be fair considering the mileage.

Jeebus I hate those wheels.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> even with the issues.  Poos you know about these, right?
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6174247338.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] SC T Bird on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not that far away, either.  Not a bad car, but it’s going to end up going for 
stupid money.  I’ll guess it will sell for over $7500.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How about this one for the Poosboy?  This looks nice and in flahduh too! 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-230ce/
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 6/14/17 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks like a sweet ride and unless the bidding explodes someone will steal
>> this car.
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-4/
>> 
>> Or if the reserve isn't met and someone lives near Greenville  - wanna take
>> a look?
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> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic Front Wheel Bearing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Talked to the seller - they say it’s “clicking”, which would suggest a bad CV 
joint, not a bearing.

I’m going to go look at it in a little while and see what’s up.  I can probably 
get it cheap.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6175895598.html

-D



> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don't know the procedure, but it looks like a press will be needed.
> http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1843004=1409857=425
> 
>> On June 14, 2017 at 8:51 AM Daniel Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone know what it involves to replace one of these?  I saw an oherwise 
>> nice E320 4Matic on CL today and they said it needs a front wheel bearing.  
>> Since it’s a 4Matic I suspect it’s a *bit* more involved than a stock front 
>> wheel bearing….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

You mean my wife’s Cadillac?  It is Silver just like a million others.

As much as I dislike the car, it has its merits.  It is loaded with goodies and 
still looks pretty good.  It must be built pretty well because she has been 
rear-ended in it twice.  Once she was sitting at a stoplight and an ice cream 
truck ran into her.  Seriously an ice cream truck.   Bashed up the rear bumper 
and a couple minor things underneath.   Then, less than 6 months later a young 
couple crashed pretty hard into her.  It totaled their car – an older Nissan 
Maxima.  It needed a new bumper again but it also banged up the exhaust and the 
rear axle.  It was a pretty hefty bill for their insurance company.  She and my 
stepdaughter were not hurt in the crash.   I hate the engine.  It has the 3.6 
DOHC that has serious timing chain issues.   We got GM to repair it once, but I 
don’t know if the gears/chain/tensioner have been updated to fix the flaw.  
Other than the timing chain, it has been fairly reliable.  It has over 125,000 
miles.

Don Snook

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

Is it blue or green?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> wrote:
A Cadillac Converter?  I wonder if I got one whether I could convert my wife's 
Cadillac into a Mercedes?

Don Snook

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From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:50 AM
To: Mercedes List >
Subject: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html

-D




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Re: [MBZ] SC T Bird on BAT

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

How about this one for the Poosboy?  This looks nice and in flahduh too! 
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-230ce/


--FT


On 6/14/17 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like a sweet ride and unless the bidding explodes someone will steal
this car.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-4/

Or if the reserve isn't met and someone lives near Greenville  - wanna take
a look?
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Re: [MBZ] W210 4Matic Front Wheel Bearing

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Don't know the procedure, but it looks like a press will be needed.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1843004=1409857=425

> On June 14, 2017 at 8:51 AM Daniel Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Anyone know what it involves to replace one of these?  I saw an oherwise nice 
> E320 4Matic on CL today and they said it needs a front wheel bearing.  Since 
> it’s a 4Matic I suspect it’s a *bit* more involved than a stock front wheel 
> bearing….
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Probably easier to get another used hub.

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was taking a wheel off the $200POSEL, looks like they had put the original 
> spare on and did not tighten the bolts as it was a bit wobbly on there.  
> Anyway, getting the bolts out was hard, they were really rusted in there, and 
> one sheared off in the hub.  I guess that means that I will need to drill it 
> out if I decide to do something with the car, and then chase the other holes 
> with a tap?  And the lug bolts are half rusty where they were not fully 
> seated, I have never done that electrolysis thing but wonder if that might be 
> the way to clean them up unless they are some weird metal or plated or 
> galvanized or something?  Any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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[MBZ] SC T Bird on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks like a sweet ride and unless the bidding explodes someone will steal
this car.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-4/

Or if the reserve isn't met and someone lives near Greenville  - wanna take
a look?
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[MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was taking a wheel off the $200POSEL, looks like they had put the 
original spare on and did not tighten the bolts as it was a bit wobbly 
on there.  Anyway, getting the bolts out was hard, they were really 
rusted in there, and one sheared off in the hub.  I guess that means 
that I will need to drill it out if I decide to do something with the 
car, and then chase the other holes with a tap?  And the lug bolts are 
half rusty where they were not fully seated, I have never done that 
electrolysis thing but wonder if that might be the way to clean them up 
unless they are some weird metal or plated or galvanized or something?  
Any ideas?


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is it blue or green?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A Cadillac Converter?  I wonder if I got one whether I could convert my
> wife's Cadillac into a Mercedes?
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:50 AM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] For the boypoos

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

It needs a serious cleaning and Dan has some expertise in that!  

What is the story with these.  I really like them, but I don't know enough 
about them.  It’s a 210 Chassis, so are those the ones that have rust at the 
strut perch?  In 98 they started using the M112 engine.  Are they problematic? 

Don Snook 

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Subject: [MBZ] For the boypoos

This looks pretty good and cheep money.  The location is a fairly high-rent 
area.  Get him a shaggin waggin!  And he can haul 6 more of his buddies around.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6166581769.html

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petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD for sale - Decent project

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Plus it has the extra sixth cylinder in case one of the other five goes bad.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For half the money its probably a pretty good deal. My $300 '81 300TD only
> cost us $2,000 in 1 year of ownership. Probably $1/mile. The most expensive
> MB (or any vehicle) I've ever owned.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes 
> Cc: Donald Snook 
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:21 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] 300TD for sale - Decent project
>
> 300TD might be a decent project for somebody with time and skill
>
> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/6175493872.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] For the boypoos

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Driver's seat tear is an east repair.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 4-matic too, so no worry about rusty spring perches...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This looks pretty good and cheep money.  The location is a fairly
> > high-rent area.  Get him a shaggin waggin!  And he can haul 6 more of his
> > buddies around.
> >
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6166581769.html
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> > Winston Churchill:
> > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> > the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep clapped out ML

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes...  Great example.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mitch needs it
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6163484951.html
>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ford Lariat?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> hmu!   hmu!
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131762336.html
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a good deal

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sweet car for maybe $3k, considering the issues that it presents.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> even with the issues.  Poos you know about these, right?
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6174247338.html
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

A Cadillac Converter?  I wonder if I got one whether I could convert my wife's 
Cadillac into a Mercedes?  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:50 AM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html

-D




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Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If nothing else it is an immaculate concept

And German too!

--FT


On 6/14/17 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I'm sure he'll tell you its "Immaculate for its age"
-Curt


   From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
  To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 

Cc: Donald Snook 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

I wonder if it really needs a new transmission?  Could be a vacuum issue?


The paint on the hood sure doesn't qualify as immaculate in my book.

Don Snook

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

Interesting but overpriced.

1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!!
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/6157878733.html

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm sure he'll tell you its "Immaculate for its age"
-Curt


  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500
   
I wonder if it really needs a new transmission?  Could be a vacuum issue? 

The paint on the hood sure doesn't qualify as immaculate in my book.  

Don Snook 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

Interesting but overpriced.

1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!!
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/6157878733.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD for sale - Decent project

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For half the money its probably a pretty good deal. My $300 '81 300TD only cost 
us $2,000 in 1 year of ownership. Probably $1/mile. The most expensive MB (or 
any vehicle) I've ever owned.
-Curt


  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes  
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:21 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 300TD for sale - Decent project
   
300TD might be a decent project for somebody with time and skill

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/6175493872.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I wonder if it really needs a new transmission?  Could be a vacuum issue? 

The paint on the hood sure doesn't qualify as immaculate in my book.   

Don Snook 

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Subject: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

Interesting but overpriced.

1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!!
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[MBZ] 300TD for sale - Decent project

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

300TD might be a decent project for somebody with time and skill

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/6175493872.html

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] For the boypoos

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4-matic too, so no worry about rusty spring perches...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This looks pretty good and cheep money.  The location is a fairly
> high-rent area.  Get him a shaggin waggin!  And he can haul 6 more of his
> buddies around.
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6166581769.html
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] SECRiT MESAGE FOR MAX Re: Temptation

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've only got one non-runner, plus the drive train and interior that we
removed from Wilton's 300D, Floyd is WAY ahead of me...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You two are rapidly becoming the Okie Acres of the eastern seaboard…
>
> Not that there’s anything wrong with that….
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] SECRiT MESAGE FOR MAX Re: Temptation

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sure, let me know.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If I don't get an email response soon I'll ring him up, maybe see about
> tomorrow?  If nothing else that maroon one has a good set of wheels I could
> put on the SEC, or the black one is a bit more pimpish but might look
> good.  $500 for the pair?  I bet we could do it, sell an engine to Curley
> for $600!  (Don't tell him!)
>
> I know where there is a dead 560SEL on James I that looks like has been
> sitting forever behind a fish shack over there in a black area but
> otherwise in not bad shape.  I am going to see about taking a look at it
> too, a friend knows someone in the family or something to do with the fish
> shack, I know her vaguely in passing so might be able to work something
> out.  She is an agitator too, so we have that commonality.
>
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] SECRiT MESAGE FOR MAX Re: Temptation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You two are rapidly becoming the Okie Acres of the eastern seaboard…

Not that there’s anything wrong with that….

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I don't get an email response soon I'll ring him up, maybe see about 
> tomorrow?  If nothing else that maroon one has a good set of wheels I could 
> put on the SEC, or the black one is a bit more pimpish but might look good.  
> $500 for the pair?  I bet we could do it, sell an engine to Curley for $600!  
> (Don't tell him!)
> 
> I know where there is a dead 560SEL on James I that looks like has been 
> sitting forever behind a fish shack over there in a black area but otherwise 
> in not bad shape.  I am going to see about taking a look at it too, a friend 
> knows someone in the family or something to do with the fish shack, I know 
> her vaguely in passing so might be able to work something out.  She is an 
> agitator too, so we have that commonality.
> 
> --FT
> 


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[MBZ] SECRiT MESAGE FOR MAX Re: Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If I don't get an email response soon I'll ring him up, maybe see about 
tomorrow?  If nothing else that maroon one has a good set of wheels I 
could put on the SEC, or the black one is a bit more pimpish but might 
look good.  $500 for the pair?  I bet we could do it, sell an engine to 
Curley for $600!  (Don't tell him!)


I know where there is a dead 560SEL on James I that looks like has been 
sitting forever behind a fish shack over there in a black area but 
otherwise in not bad shape.  I am going to see about taking a look at it 
too, a friend knows someone in the family or something to do with the 
fish shack, I know her vaguely in passing so might be able to work 
something out.  She is an agitator too, so we have that commonality.


--FT

On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

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large or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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[MBZ] For the boypoos

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks pretty good and cheep money.  The location is a fairly 
high-rent area.  Get him a shaggin waggin!  And he can haul 6 more of 
his buddies around.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6166581769.html

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[MBZ] Cheepcheep clapped out ML

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Mitch needs it

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6163484951.html


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[MBZ] run an drive great no problems at all!!!! No low ballers call for more information hmu

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

hmu!   hmu!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131762336.html

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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[MBZ] This looks like a good deal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

even with the issues.  Poos you know about these, right?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6174247338.html

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I sent the guy an email, there is a phone # so if I don't hear back I 
might call him.  If the map is any indication they look fairly close by 
so would not be hard to go look at them. Depending on what they are I 
could get some spares for the SEC and if one of them might happen to be 
a 300SEL I could maybe get some bits and a tranny for the $200POSEL


--R


On 6/14/17 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.


On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.

> On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go 
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Car has style aka looks good!

I think it could get by with a "test pipe."

--FT


On 6/14/17 8:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html

-D


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[MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go 
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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Re: [MBZ] 1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!! $4500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That is probably not a bad price but would knock it down a bit for the 
tranny issue.  If it is in otherwise good shape that could be a good car 
to flip.  I'm thinking $3500 would be a good deal.


--FT


On 6/13/17 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I don’t know.  These things are bringing stupid money these days.

-D



On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Interesting but overpriced.

1988 Mercedes 560 SEC--IMMACULATE CONDITION!!
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/6157878733.html

via cPro for Craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] Boat for Randy

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Looks like a big Johnson too

--FT


On 6/13/17 7:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/06d1f3c248d6ae856a81756feaef5d0b.png

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[MBZ] wrecked 123

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I had on some PBS show last night about this guy in Texas who was 
executed for setting a fire that killed his kids, turns out he was 
probably innocent.  Anyway, this reporter took up the case and was 
chasing details on it, at some point fairly far along she was driving 
from Houston to Austin or Huntsville or somewhere and got in a car wreck 
and messed up pretty bad.  They showed a pic of the wreck and it was a 
123 of some sort she was driving.  The car actually didn't look that 
bad, what they showed of it, looked like a head-on, but I guess it was 
bad enough to bang her up pretty good.


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

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Funny that you mention that, as I’ve seen a couple of ads where they make 
reference to having replaced the converters.  I wonder if it matters if you use 
mid-grade stuff?  Why does regular unleaded clog them up?  Doesn’t get hot 
enough?

-D


> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Which reminds me. 
> Drive a e320 for 10kmi on 87 octane and you'll likely plug the converters. 
> 
> I wouldn't buy one without looking at the instrument panel and asking the 
> owner "do you really have to use premium only, seems like that would be 
> expensive?"
> 
>> On June 14, 2017 at 8:49 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Got a Spare Cadillac Converter?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Which reminds me. 
Drive a e320 for 10kmi on 87 octane and you'll likely plug the converters. 

I wouldn't buy one without looking at the instrument panel and asking the owner 
"do you really have to use premium only, seems like that would be expensive?"

> On June 14, 2017 at 8:49 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6174835290.html

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[MBZ] W210 4Matic Front Wheel Bearing

[Daniel Penoff via Mercedes]

Anyone know what it involves to replace one of these?  I saw an oherwise nice 
E320 4Matic on CL today and they said it needs a front wheel bearing.  Since 
it’s a 4Matic I suspect it’s a *bit* more involved than a stock front wheel 
bearing….

-D



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