date:20171101

Looks like it. Quite a bit

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:47:10 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> 1995 Mercedes Benz
>> 
>> https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/1995-mercedes-benz/6332798332.html
> 
> Hail damage, huh?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is pretty optimistic

2017-11-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:47:10 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> 1995 Mercedes Benz
> 
> https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/1995-mercedes-benz/6332798332.html

Hail damage, huh?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] bow ties,

2017-11-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:31:53 -0700
Jim Cathey via Mercedes  wrote:

> >
> > Just did a quick search for MB bow ties. Didn't find any
> 
> 
> Well, duh!  Chevy bow ties, yes.  Anything else?  No.  :-)
> 
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[MBZ] This guy is pretty optimistic

1995 Mercedes Benz

https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/1995-mercedes-benz/6332798332.html


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[MBZ] Another AF447 Discussion

2017-11-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

https://www.aerotime.aero/en/civil/20246-blame-the-pilot-the-case-of-air-france-447

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

2017-11-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:23:42 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly 
> small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses
> on, it is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably
> age related and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as
> they once did.

Or maybe it's like our '89 Chevy G20 van, where the instruments are
recessed down in holes on the dash. It's hard for me to see them during
the day, too.

When I had the dash apart some months ago and had removed the cover with
the recessed holes, I could see the speedometer and other instruments
excellently at any time of the day or night. The problem of not being able
to see the instruments during the day was just due to horrible design, and
not my eyesight.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

2017-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

>
> If we are talking safety, does cost matter?


Unless you are rich (defn: never need to consider the cost of anything)
_of_course_ it matters!  It's a resource allocation game.  If you spend
more on tires, and can no longer afford ammunition for your home defense
system, _are_ you actually safer?

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Re: [MBZ] bow ties,

2017-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

>
> Just did a quick search for MB bow ties. Didn't find any


Well, duh!  Chevy bow ties, yes.  Anything else?  No.  :-)

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Just keep practicing. That's what it takes. Eventually  you will be,able to
do it with out a mirror.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 9:14 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

What subject do your teach?

I've got a couple bow ties, for my seer sucker suits.  I have to watch a
YouTube video each time to get the bow tie right.  I can tie a regular tie
easy peasy, bow tie kicks my butt.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 1, 2017 7:04:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>Yes I am one of the,very very few faculty who still wears a dress shirt
>&
> tie.. In my case a bow tie
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

2017-11-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

What subject do your teach?

I've got a couple bow ties, for my seer sucker suits.  I have to watch a 
YouTube video each time to get the bow tie right.  I can tie a regular tie easy 
peasy, bow tie kicks my butt.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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 wrote:
>Yes I am one of the,very very few faculty who still wears a dress shirt
>&
> tie.. In my case a bow tie
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] bow ties,

So do I. Just did a quick search for MB bow ties. Didn't find any

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 7:41 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Works for me.  I need a mirror to do it, I think...
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> > Let's find some MB bow ties,& have,a bow,tie tying event at next year's
> chowdahQ.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Nov 1, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  > wrote:
> > I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once
> you know how to do it.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and
> took me to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my
> first (well only) one.
> > > Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a
> necktie...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] 240D Inj pump timing shaft


Replacement timer on left.  Timer on right shows the hub worn to concave.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Inj pump timing shaft

A little jb weld will fix that right up.

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> 
> Today I got back to taking apart the 240D.  On this one, the oil pump just 
> dropped out when I took out the last bolt.  The timer shaft is broken for 
> sure.See photos
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[MBZ] 240D Inj pump timing shaft

Today I got back to taking apart the 240D.  On this one, the oil pump 
just dropped out when I took out the last bolt.  The timer shaft is 
broken for sure.See photos


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Re: [MBZ] Nokain Entyre 2.0

I got ripped over $30 for installing the pair.  That was the best price 
in town.  It was about $17 each.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM

I assume he bought a pair.
Discount tire wants $103 each for them.

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Andrew Strasfogel 
November 1, 2017 at 12:45 PM
Each?  That's supposed to be cheap??




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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

High mileage tar, like the Michelin, or BF Goodrich, and some badyears, 
are generally BAD on water/



OK Don via Mercedes 
November 1, 2017 at 12:50 PM
For those who frequently drive longer distances in wet conditions, cost
would be a lesser factor in choosing tires relative to wet traction. If
this scenario fits you, then ask how good, not how expensive.



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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

I agree with Randy, I like having both. That having been said, my all time
favorite speedo is the barber pole in the early '60's MBs - the 220 finny
that I drove in particular.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Normally, I would agree with you. I prefer the old round gauges. But, I
> had an 08 Honda Civic for a year and it had the digital speedo up high
> above the rest of the gauges. The tach was round and down lower.
> I found that the digital speedo was very easy to see and it was easier to
> keep track of my speed. The numbers were large and up where I could see
> them without having to look down.
> My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly
> small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses on, it
> is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably age related
> and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as they once did.
> I would cheerfully have another vehicle with a speedo like the Civic.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 01/11/2017 4:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Andrew inquires:
>>
>> ‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior
 to
 the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?

>>>
>> To which Curley replied:
>>
>> ‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!
>>>
>> Andrew (very liberal)
>> Curly (very conservative)
>>
>> In agreement on something.
>>
>> And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do.
>>
>> MOMGA!
>>
>> Making Old Mercedes Great Again!
>>
>> Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and
>> maintained.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] bow ties,

Works for me.  I need a mirror to do it, I think...

-D


> On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> Let's find some MB bow ties,& have,a bow,tie tying event at next year's  
> chowdahQ.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  > wrote:
> I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once you 
> know how to do it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took me 
> > to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first 
> > (well only) one.
> > Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a 
> > necktie...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] bow ties,

Dan,
Let's find some MB bow ties,& have,a bow,tie tying event at next year's
 chowdahQ.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once
you know how to do it.

-D


> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took
me to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first
(well only) one.
> Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a
necktie...
> -Curt
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

It sounds like I need to get a solder station. Got any suggestions?

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I too have spares for EDS and CC to rebuild.  Will attack in the winter when 
> I am near the resolder station.  I am very interested in a listing of the 
> needed capacitors for EDS, Cruise control, instrument panel for 126, (also 
> 124 if applicable) and other applications.
> 
> I also have the throttle body doojiggy (whatever it is that MB calls it)  
> from the M104 that needs 20-30 small wires WITH insulation replaced...  It 
> could be resurrected sometime too with wires that are MW insulation, in place 
> of self-destructing insulation.
> 
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> November 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM
>> That's my plan, "spray and pray". I've got a spare EDS computer or two
>> around, I"m going to order the capacitors for this repair and the pre-glow
>> relay repair.
>> 
>> Does anyone know the capacitor type / value for the tempomat computer?
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

I too have spares for EDS and CC to rebuild.  Will attack in the winter 
when I am near the resolder station.  I am very interested in a listing 
of the needed capacitors for EDS, Cruise control, instrument panel for 
126, (also 124 if applicable) and other applications.


I also have the throttle body doojiggy (whatever it is that MB calls 
it)  from the M104 that needs 20-30 small wires WITH insulation 
replaced...  It could be resurrected sometime too with wires that are MW 
insulation, in place of self-destructing insulation.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
November 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM
That's my plan, "spray and pray". I've got a spare EDS computer or two
around, I"m going to order the capacitors for this repair and the pre-glow
relay repair.

Does anyone know the capacitor type / value for the tempomat computer?


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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

That's right. A British friend of mine taught me to tie the perfect bow tie
then muss it up so no one,asks you if it is a clip-on or pre-tied.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once
> you know how to do it.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took
> me to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first
> (well only) one.
> > Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a
> necktie...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

That's right. A British friend of mine taught me to tie the perfect bow tie
then muss it up so no one,asks you if it is a clip-on or pre-tied.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once
> you know how to do it.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took
> me to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first
> (well only) one.
> > Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a
> necktie...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Yes that is right. I knew an IBM consultant from those days.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> On 01/11/2017 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Even if it is public facing I don't trust a nerd that looks too put
>> together.
>>
>>
>>
> My how times change. IBM used to insist that their people wear white
> shirts and dark suits and carry their tools in a briefcase.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Yes I am one of the,very very few faculty who still wears a dress shirt &
 tie.. In my case a bow tie

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 1, 2017 3:16 PM, "Dan--- via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Cute.
>
> I agree. As dear old Dad always told me, "Dress like the CEO and people
> will treat you like one."
>
> Despite working in a very business casual environment, I still wear dress
> pants, dress shirts with French cuffs and cufflinks every day, even on
> Fridays ("jeans day.") Quite honestly, I'm not comfortable "dressing down"
> for work.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of the guy driving his Cadillac to go get a vasectomy.  he
> says "If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent."
> >
> > BADABOOM
> >
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

As a matter of fact, I started “bow tie Wednesday” at the school district while 
I was working there.  Broke up the week a bit.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once you 
> know how to do it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took me 
>> to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first (well 
>> only) one.
>> Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a necktie...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

I wear bow ties, the real ones you have to tie by hand.  Easy-peasy once you 
know how to do it.

-D


> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took me 
> to a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first (well 
> only) one.
> Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a necktie...
> -Curt
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Unlimited wash package?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Most people assume my 18 year old BMW is more expensive than it really is. It 
> is also ALWAYS clean.  I have an unlimited wash package so it gets washed at 
> least twice a week. 
> 
> I don't want to drive a beater but I'm not totally hung up on status either.  
> Around here a new Truck is more of a status symbol anyway.  After thinking 
> and pondering and doing the math, I think I am better off just driving my 
> BMW.  Its going to cost too much to buy a car, fix any minor issues, tag it, 
> pay taxes, and insure it.  For all of those costs, I can buy more gas.  BUT, 
> I do think a cool old Mercedes still makes a statement.  So, if I found the 
> perfect 123 diesel, I might still be interested.  Two attorneys I know make 
> more than probably any others in the State of Kansas.   One is obsessed with 
> image.  He has a Lamborghini and a new S Class.  He buys some top of the line 
> car every 2 years.  He also makes millions.   The other one had a 10 year old 
> Toyota Sequoia with 200,000 miles.  He recently got a 2 year old Ford 
> Explorer.  He doesn't have to be flashy -- he's just very good.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:52 PM
> To: clay monroe via Mercedes 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq
> 
> I disagree. Many people pay no attention to vehicles but many do notice too. 
> I belonged to a business club for many years and could generally tell who had 
> shown up for the meetings by what was in the parking lot when I got there. I 
> don't think you need a new Cadillac but I do think you need to be in a decent 
> looking vehicle and preferably a clean vehicle. Clients and other lawyers 
> will look to see what Don  is driving and will treat him accordingly. If he 
> wants to drive a beater back and forth on his commute, he should park the BMW 
> somewhere near the office and swap cars on the way into town.
> 
> The same goes for Kaleb and his current issue with the damaged car. He needs 
> to drive something that looks decent. The Benz was not new but it was a nice 
> car and people would note that it was an MB. Much preferable to a domestic 
> vehicle of similar vintage. A good looking classic car turns more heads than 
> a new car most of the time.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/11/2017 1:31 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
>> clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
>> Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.   Otherwise, any 
>> well build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq


On 01/11/2017 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Even if it is public facing I don't trust a nerd that looks too put together.




My how times change. IBM used to insist that their people wear white 
shirts and dark suits and carry their tools in a briefcase.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

Normally, I would agree with you. I prefer the old round gauges. But, I 
had an 08 Honda Civic for a year and it had the digital speedo up high 
above the rest of the gauges. The tach was round and down lower.
I found that the digital speedo was very easy to see and it was easier 
to keep track of my speed. The numbers were large and up where I could 
see them without having to look down.
My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly 
small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses on, 
it is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably age 
related and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as they 
once did.

I would cheerfully have another vehicle with a speedo like the Civic.

RB

On 01/11/2017 4:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Andrew inquires:


‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?


To which Curley replied:


‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Andrew (very liberal)
Curly (very conservative)

In agreement on something.

And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do.

MOMGA!

Making Old Mercedes Great Again!

Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and maintained.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

I pretty much only wear a bow tie now. Dwight showed me the way and took me to 
a very cool clothing store that is now sadly closed to buy my first (well only) 
one.
Once I got good at tying it a bow tie is much easier to tie than a necktie...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 6:17:20 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 01/11/2017 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Even if it is public facing I don't trust a nerd that looks too put together.
> My first job out of college I was producing video for a company that made 
> fire alarms. About the third time I caught my tie in the tripod legs as I 
> closed it I got permission to not wear a tie on shoot days...
>
> -Curt
>  
>

Bow Tie. You would look good in a bow tie.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq


On 01/11/2017 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Even if it is public facing I don't trust a nerd that looks too put together.
My first job out of college I was producing video for a company that made fire 
alarms. About the third time I caught my tie in the tripod legs as I closed it 
I got permission to not wear a tie on shoot days...

-Curt
  



Bow Tie. You would look good in a bow tie.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Even if it is public facing I don't trust a nerd that looks too put together.
My first job out of college I was producing video for a company that made fire 
alarms. About the third time I caught my tie in the tripod legs as I closed it 
I got permission to not wear a tie on shoot days...

-Curt

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 5:13:24 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 If your position isn’t public facing, I can totally understand that.  When I 
worked for the school district they insisted that the men had to wear ties, 
which was simply stupid BS.  I worked in a data center and rarely saw the light 
of day, much less another human being unless it was one of my peers.

The County government is far more laid back.  I’m on the floor just above the 
legal department, so sometimes I get on the elevator and someone will push the 
button for Legal’s floor thinking I forgot to do it myself.  They’re the only 
ones who wear suits and ties around here.

When I started my first job down here I showed up in a shirt and tie.  The 
first thing people said was, ”You must not be from around here….”

Ditched the tie after that day.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The only place I disagree with you here is computer nerds. If a tech shows up 
> and he's totally put together he's probably not very good. The best techs 
> rarely know about soap...
> My company tried to institute a dress code years ago that included a dress 
> shirt and tie. There was a revolt, finally somebody took the offending VP to 
> a customer site. The editor there was sitting with his feet up wearing flip 
> flops, cargo shorts and a mohawk. It was explained to her that these 
> customers had no respect for anybody in a shirt and tie and it was absurd to 
> expect phone support people to dress that way.When I was in phone support we 
> had the tie of shame. If you screwed up bad you were required to wear it for 
> a week...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

2017-11-01 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Andrew inquires:

>>‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior to
>> the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?


To which Curley replied:

>‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Andrew (very liberal)
Curly (very conservative) 

In agreement on something. 

And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do. 

MOMGA! 

Making Old Mercedes Great Again!

Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and maintained.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

If your position isn’t public facing, I can totally understand that.  When I 
worked for the school district they insisted that the men had to wear ties, 
which was simply stupid BS.  I worked in a data center and rarely saw the light 
of day, much less another human being unless it was one of my peers.

The County government is far more laid back.  I’m on the floor just above the 
legal department, so sometimes I get on the elevator and someone will push the 
button for Legal’s floor thinking I forgot to do it myself.  They’re the only 
ones who wear suits and ties around here.

When I started my first job down here I showed up in a shirt and tie.  The 
first thing people said was, ”You must not be from around here….”

Ditched the tie after that day.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The only place I disagree with you here is computer nerds. If a tech shows up 
> and he's totally put together he's probably not very good. The best techs 
> rarely know about soap...
> My company tried to institute a dress code years ago that included a dress 
> shirt and tie. There was a revolt, finally somebody took the offending VP to 
> a customer site. The editor there was sitting with his feet up wearing flip 
> flops, cargo shorts and a mohawk. It was explained to her that these 
> customers had no respect for anybody in a shirt and tie and it was absurd to 
> expect phone support people to dress that way.When I was in phone support we 
> had the tie of shame. If you screwed up bad you were required to wear it for 
> a week...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

The only place I disagree with you here is computer nerds. If a tech shows up 
and he's totally put together he's probably not very good. The best techs 
rarely know about soap...
My company tried to institute a dress code years ago that included a dress 
shirt and tie. There was a revolt, finally somebody took the offending VP to a 
customer site. The editor there was sitting with his feet up wearing flip 
flops, cargo shorts and a mohawk. It was explained to her that these customers 
had no respect for anybody in a shirt and tie and it was absurd to expect phone 
support people to dress that way.When I was in phone support we had the tie of 
shame. If you screwed up bad you were required to wear it for a week...

-Curt

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 3:26:08 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 On 01/11/2017 2:16 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Cute.
>
> I agree. As dear old Dad always told me, "Dress like the CEO and people will 
> treat you like one."
>
> Despite working in a very business casual environment, I still wear dress 
> pants, dress shirts with French cuffs and cufflinks every day, even on 
> Fridays ("jeans day.") Quite honestly, I'm not comfortable "dressing down" 
> for work.
>
> -D
>

My elder son works with a group of artsy people who have become pretty 
loose in what they wear to work -jeans, t-shirts, scruffy beards etc. 
Some of them had become like hippies. Some of them were taken aside by 
the head honcho and told to improve their look. It was suggested to 
them, that if they did not know what to do, that they should watch what 
my son wears. He has always been a "preppie" sort and dresses pretty 
conservatively. A good thing when one represents the office when sent 
out to a jobsite to deal with clients etc. The firm is charging clients 
good money for him and he needs to look like he is worth it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

2017-11-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Thanks Dan.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 1, 2017 3:09:57 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes  
wrote:
>AL electrolytics are fine.
>
>-D
>
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, Digikey's selection of capacitors is overwhelming.
>> 
>> What should my first choice be on this list?
>> 
>> Aluminum - Polymer Capacitors (9157 items)
>> Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors (116127 items)
>> Capacitor Networks, Arrays (2299 items)
>> Ceramic Capacitors (539073 items)
>> Electric Double Layer Capacitors (EDLC), Supercapacitors (1161 items)
>> Film Capacitors (60778 items)
>> Mica and PTFE Capacitors (9014 items)
>> Niobium Oxide Capacitors (414 items)
>> Silicon Capacitors (210 items)
>> Tantalum - Polymer Capacitors (10236 items)
>> Tantalum Capacitors (53604 items)
>> Thin Film Capacitors (2368 items)
>> Trimmers, Variable Capacitors (1709 items)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq


On 01/11/2017 2:16 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Cute.

I agree. As dear old Dad always told me, "Dress like the CEO and people will treat 
you like one."

Despite working in a very business casual environment, I still wear dress pants, dress shirts with 
French cuffs and cufflinks every day, even on Fridays ("jeans day.") Quite honestly, I'm 
not comfortable "dressing down" for work.

-D



My elder son works with a group of artsy people who have become pretty 
loose in what they wear to work -jeans, t-shirts, scruffy beards etc. 
Some of them had become like hippies. Some of them were taken aside by 
the head honcho and told to improve their look. It was suggested to 
them, that if they did not know what to do, that they should watch what 
my son wears. He has always been a "preppie" sort and dresses pretty 
conservatively. A good thing when one represents the office when sent 
out to a jobsite to deal with clients etc. The firm is charging clients 
good money for him and he needs to look like he is worth it.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Most people assume my 18 year old BMW is more expensive than it really is. It 
is also ALWAYS clean.  I have an unlimited wash package so it gets washed at 
least twice a week. 

 I don't want to drive a beater but I'm not totally hung up on status either.  
Around here a new Truck is more of a status symbol anyway.  After thinking and 
pondering and doing the math, I think I am better off just driving my BMW.  Its 
going to cost too much to buy a car, fix any minor issues, tag it, pay taxes, 
and insure it.  For all of those costs, I can buy more gas.  BUT, I do think a 
cool old Mercedes still makes a statement.  So, if I found the perfect 123 
diesel, I might still be interested.  Two attorneys I know make more than 
probably any others in the State of Kansas.   One is obsessed with image.  He 
has a Lamborghini and a new S Class.  He buys some top of the line car every 2 
years.  He also makes millions.   The other one had a 10 year old Toyota 
Sequoia with 200,000 miles.  He recently got a 2 year old Ford Explorer.  He 
doesn't have to be flashy -- he's just very good.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:52 PM
To: clay monroe via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

I disagree. Many people pay no attention to vehicles but many do notice too. I 
belonged to a business club for many years and could generally tell who had 
shown up for the meetings by what was in the parking lot when I got there. I 
don't think you need a new Cadillac but I do think you need to be in a decent 
looking vehicle and preferably a clean vehicle. Clients and other lawyers will 
look to see what Don  is driving and will treat him accordingly. If he wants to 
drive a beater back and forth on his commute, he should park the BMW somewhere 
near the office and swap cars on the way into town.

The same goes for Kaleb and his current issue with the damaged car. He needs to 
drive something that looks decent. The Benz was not new but it was a nice car 
and people would note that it was an MB. Much preferable to a domestic vehicle 
of similar vintage. A good looking classic car turns more heads than a new car 
most of the time.

RB

On 01/11/2017 1:31 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
> clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
> Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.   Otherwise, any 
> well build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.
>
>
> clay
>

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq


On 01/11/2017 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Reminds me of the guy driving his Cadillac to go get a vasectomy.  he 
says "If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent."


BADABOOM

--FT

Reminds me of a line from the book I was referring to earlier. An 
elderly black preacher travelling the south in days gone by always 
carried a nice leather briefcase. His reasoning was, that with the 
briefcase, he was a black gentleman and was treated as such. Without it, 
he was just another Nr.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

2017-11-01 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Cute.

I agree. As dear old Dad always told me, "Dress like the CEO and people will 
treat you like one."

Despite working in a very business casual environment, I still wear dress 
pants, dress shirts with French cuffs and cufflinks every day, even on Fridays 
("jeans day.") Quite honestly, I'm not comfortable "dressing down" for work.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Reminds me of the guy driving his Cadillac to go get a vasectomy.  he says 
> "If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent."
> 
> BADABOOM
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

2017-11-01 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

AL electrolytics are fine.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow, Digikey's selection of capacitors is overwhelming.
> 
> What should my first choice be on this list?
> 
> Aluminum - Polymer Capacitors (9157 items)
> Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors (116127 items)
> Capacitor Networks, Arrays (2299 items)
> Ceramic Capacitors (539073 items)
> Electric Double Layer Capacitors (EDLC), Supercapacitors (1161 items)
> Film Capacitors (60778 items)
> Mica and PTFE Capacitors (9014 items)
> Niobium Oxide Capacitors (414 items)
> Silicon Capacitors (210 items)
> Tantalum - Polymer Capacitors (10236 items)
> Tantalum Capacitors (53604 items)
> Thin Film Capacitors (2368 items)
> Trimmers, Variable Capacitors (1709 items)
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

It was less than $600 shipped for a set of 4.  They are listed on Tire Rack in 
the size I needed for $154 per tire.  When I bought them they had some special 
for $30 bucks off per tire.  

Don Snook 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 11:00 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

Cost??

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least 
> 20k miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed 
> in heavy rain and they never lose traction.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.
>  I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior
> wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this 
> is a valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were 
> great.  I'm not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car 
> when I bought them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced 
> them with some used Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did 
> apparently have an alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the 
> outside edge.  I replaced them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have 
> driven in some nasty rain storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the 
> Sumitomo and the prior
> Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying
> to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these 
> Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the 
> interstate and there were several times I experienced a little 
> slippage/hydroplaning
> on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some reviewers
> complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> >
> >
> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My 
> >> guess
> is they should be replaced.
> >
> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 
> > years
> was indoors?
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

2017-11-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Reminds me of the guy driving his Cadillac to go get a vasectomy.  he 
says "If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent."


BADABOOM

--FT


On 11/1/17 2:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I disagree. Many people pay no attention to vehicles but many do 
notice too. I belonged to a business club for many years and could 
generally tell who had shown up for the meetings by what was in the 
parking lot when I got there. I don't think you need a new Cadillac 
but I do think you need to be in a decent looking vehicle and 
preferably a clean vehicle. Clients and other lawyers will look to see 
what Don  is driving and will treat him accordingly. If he wants to 
drive a beater back and forth on his commute, he should park the BMW 
somewhere near the office and swap cars on the way into town.


The same goes for Kaleb and his current issue with the damaged car. He 
needs to drive something that looks decent. The Benz was not new but 
it was a nice car and people would note that it was an MB. Much 
preferable to a domestic vehicle of similar vintage. A good looking 
classic car turns more heads than a new car most of the time.


RB

On 01/11/2017 1:31 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to 
impress clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go 
with a W201.  Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more 
powers.   Otherwise, any well build econo box from the mid 90’s fits 
the bill.



clay




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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq


On 01/11/2017 1:31 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.   Otherwise, any well 
build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.


clay



I should have added to my previous post on this heading -  have you ever 
read the book "Dress For Success" and I believe a second book "Live for 
Success" by John Malloy, that detailed research done by the writer about 
presenting a successful image.


I know in my own experience, I have noticed differences depending on 
what I am wearing. I used to often stop at a store similar to your Farm 
and Fleet or Harbour Freight on my way back from lunch if they had 
something on sale that I wanted. When I wore a jacket and tie, people in 
blue collar clothing would step out of the way for me in aisles. If I 
was wearing much more casual clothing, they did not defer to me. I guess 
the tie was a visual clue that I was someone important?


Our world has become much more casual in the past 20 years or more. Many 
people who dressed up for work do not anymore. A suit and tie has become 
much less common and thus is noticed.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

Wow, Digikey's selection of capacitors is overwhelming.

What should my first choice be on this list?

Aluminum - Polymer Capacitors (9157 items)
Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors (116127 items)
Capacitor Networks, Arrays (2299 items)
Ceramic Capacitors (539073 items)
Electric Double Layer Capacitors (EDLC), Supercapacitors (1161 items)
Film Capacitors (60778 items)
Mica and PTFE Capacitors (9014 items)
Niobium Oxide Capacitors (414 items)
Silicon Capacitors (210 items)
Tantalum - Polymer Capacitors (10236 items)
Tantalum Capacitors (53604 items)
Thin Film Capacitors (2368 items)
Trimmers, Variable Capacitors (1709 items)



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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

I disagree. Many people pay no attention to vehicles but many do notice 
too. I belonged to a business club for many years and could generally 
tell who had shown up for the meetings by what was in the parking lot 
when I got there. I don't think you need a new Cadillac but I do think 
you need to be in a decent looking vehicle and preferably a clean 
vehicle. Clients and other lawyers will look to see what Don  is driving 
and will treat him accordingly. If he wants to drive a beater back and 
forth on his commute, he should park the BMW somewhere near the office 
and swap cars on the way into town.


The same goes for Kaleb and his current issue with the damaged car. He 
needs to drive something that looks decent. The Benz was not new but it 
was a nice car and people would note that it was an MB. Much preferable 
to a domestic vehicle of similar vintage. A good looking classic car 
turns more heads than a new car most of the time.


RB

On 01/11/2017 1:31 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.   Otherwise, any well 
build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.


clay




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Re: [MBZ] Nokain Entyre 2.0


> On November 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Each?  That's supposed to be cheap??

I assume he bought a pair. 
Discount tire wants $103 each for them.

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

With a 5spd I didn't think the 2.2l was too bad, with the auto I didn't like it 
at all although it was still faster than a 240D.
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 2:31:47 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.  Otherwise, any well 
build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote: 
> 
> "Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
> Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
> every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
> like that Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 
> Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to 
> be around company that lives within their means. So few people do that 
> today" 
> 
> I am cheap and do not want a car payment.  I haven't had one in years and 
> don't want to start now.  I really just need to get one car.  I have two 7 
> series and an old Truck.  I don't want to get anything too fancy.  All the 
> lawyers around here (two small towns McPherson and Marion Kansas) drive 
> trucks.  My old BMW still sticks out a little.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:08 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq
> 
> Barrister Snook opines:
> 
>> ‎VERY nice cars. But, much too new and >too much $$ for me. 
> 
> Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
> Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
> every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
> like that
> 
> Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 
> 
> Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to 
> be around company that lives within their means. So few people do that 
> today
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

I've actually done really well with my last batch of Chinesium snow tires. Last 
winter we were driving home in a snow storm in Angie's Golf when an accident on 
the other side of the road shot a car into our lane. I stomped on the binders 
thinking "There is no way..." but amazingly the car stopped perfectly, tracked 
in a straight line and halted about 10 feet from where the other car (same year 
Jetta actually) shot across the road in front of us.
I got us pulled to the side of the road, got out of the car and immediately 
slipped and fell...
 
-Curt


On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 1:50:19 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For those who frequently drive longer distances in wet conditions, cost
would be a lesser factor in choosing tires relative to wet traction. If
this scenario fits you, then ask how good, not how expensive.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Many tire brands are safe. This is a false choice.
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > For what? The tires? Can’t say I remember. Was probably about $130 each
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Cost??
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least
> > 20k miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in
> > heavy rain and they never lose traction.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin
> > Premiere.  I have already put 7,000 miles on them.  They are marketed
> for
> > superior wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience
> > this is a valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were
> > great.  I'm not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car
> when I
> > bought them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with
> some
> > used Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an
> > alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced
> > them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain
> > storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior
> > Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.  I am still trying
> > to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these
> > Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate
> > and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning
> > on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!    Some
> reviewers
> > complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> > They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> > >> >
> > >> > Don Snook
> > >> >
> > >> > -Original Message-
> > >> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> > >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My
> > guess is they should be replaced.
> > >> >
> > >> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12
> years
> > was indoors?
> > >> >
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

2017-11-01 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes

If it just needs to get you there and back, there is no need to impress 
clients, and you find the fit tailored enough, you should go with a W201.  
Gutless wonder in a 2.2, maybe the 2.5 gives more powers.   Otherwise, any well 
build econo box from the mid 90’s fits the bill.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote: 
> 
> "Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
> Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
> every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
> like that Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 
> Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to 
> be around company that lives within their means. So few people do that 
> today" 
> 
> I am cheap and do not want a car payment.  I haven't had one in years and 
> don't want to start now.  I really just need to get one car.  I have two 7 
> series and an old Truck.  I don't want to get anything too fancy.  All the 
> lawyers around here (two small towns McPherson and Marion Kansas) drive 
> trucks.  My old BMW still sticks out a little.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:08 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq
> 
> Barrister Snook opines:
> 
>> ‎VERY nice cars. But, much too new and >too much $$ for me. 
> 
> Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
> Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
> every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
> like that
> 
> Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 
> 
> Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to 
> be around company that lives within their means. So few people do that 
> today
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

2017-11-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

It's this 99 E300 dizzel I bought for $500.  I bought some parts for it, 
and a new wheel tire, so I'm up to maybe $600 or a bit more now.  It's 
throwing some codes that suggest EGR and glow plug(s), which isn't such 
a big deal.  It starts and runs a bit rough but I think it would be 
easily sortable.  Decent shape otherwise though it has been salvaged or 
wrecked like 3 times. I'm thinking this car and a AAA membership and 
you'd be OK, once it gets sorted on the codes issues.


--R


On 11/1/17 10:08 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb has a $500 car to sell?  What is it?  Is it up for a 130 mile commute 
every day?

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

There ya go.
Sell the $500 606 turbo beater to Snook.
Those things get 30mpg at 80mph, don't they?
Mitch.


On October 30, 2017 at 10:04 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I thought we were talking about a car for me?  

I'm  interested.  Seriously.

Don Snook.

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:32 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

We will have to talk.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 28, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That's the one I bought from the estate sale, $1300.  Haven't done anything 
with it yet, sitting in the barn, I start it occasionally and it lights right 
off.  I drove it before I got it and the brakes were grinding and grabby but 
worked, car ran very well except the throttle return spring is missing or 
broken or something (which is interesting, I pulled one off the 79 300TD and 
the 78 300CD has a different throttle linkage arrangement so it doesn;t seem to 
be the same).  I haven't even looked at it much yet due to some other issues.

The story is this woman owned it since like 1981 or so, it was her baby,  She 
died a coupla years ago, and the long-time BF would start it occasionally and 
move it around the driveway and wash it, but she never let him drive it when 
she was alive, so he never drove it after she couldn't drive it or after she 
died.  She kept it up in good shape, it was sitting under a carport so out of 
the weather mostly.  She had it repainted at some point after a storm knocked 
down some branches or something and dinged it up a bit. It is white with black 
leather interior, very minor damage to drivers seat, rest of interior looks 
really nice.  Some rust starting to show up under the side trim, you can see 
where it is starting to discolor a bit, so there's that.  Trunk seemed to be 
leaking, I think probably the rear window seal so maybe some caulk would fix 
that.

AC ran down, probably just needs a charge unless the seals are bad.  Belt is 
off but compressor seemed to spin so I don't know. Would probably need a set of 
tires if you were going to drive it far or fast but they had good tread, just 
likely old.

It's a pretty nice car actually, very clean and looks good from 20ft and 
everything is there and straight.  Runs, drives.  I was thinking to BAT it 
unless someone wants it.

Bring your trailer and haul it and the E$500 dizzel home, we could work 
something out.

--FT



On 10/28/17 10:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Really? So what is the deal?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:
  There's a nice 78 300CD sitting here I could let go for cheapcheap, in pretty 
decent shape.  Starts right up, runs well. Needs some brake sorting from 
sitting, probably at least rotors and pads, maybe calipers, but that is no big 
deal.  Fly to CHS and drive it home.

--R



On 10/27/17 2:34 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
WOW That 300SDL is nice.  But 405K miles? Wow.  I don't think that would get 
better than 25 mpg. Right? It is nice.

I am lusting in my heart for the Green 240D.  My trip is 65 miles and I'm 
guessing it might take 15 to get up to 80MPH.   Or will one these actually go 
that fast?  It would get great mileage!

The brown/maroon 83 300D looks great.  But, I'm not sure its going to get 28-20 
mpg at 80 mph.

Don Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

For those who frequently drive longer distances in wet conditions, cost
would be a lesser factor in choosing tires relative to wet traction. If
this scenario fits you, then ask how good, not how expensive.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Many tire brands are safe. This is a false choice.
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > For what? The tires? Can’t say I remember. Was probably about $130 each
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Cost??
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least
> > 20k miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in
> > heavy rain and they never lose traction.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin
> > Premiere.   I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed
> for
> > superior wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience
> > this is a valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were
> > great.  I'm not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car
> when I
> > bought them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with
> some
> > used Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an
> > alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced
> > them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain
> > storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior
> > Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying
> > to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these
> > Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate
> > and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning
> > on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some
> reviewers
> > complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> > They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> > >> >
> > >> > Don Snook
> > >> >
> > >> > -Original Message-
> > >> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> > >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My
> > guess is they should be replaced.
> > >> >
> > >> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12
> years
> > was indoors?
> > >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

Many tire brands are safe. This is a false choice.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For what? The tires? Can’t say I remember. Was probably about $130 each
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Cost??
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least
> 20k miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in
> heavy rain and they never lose traction.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin
> Premiere.   I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for
> superior wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience
> this is a valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were
> great.  I'm not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car when I
> bought them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with some
> used Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an
> alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced
> them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain
> storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior
> Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying
> to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these
> Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate
> and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning
> on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some reviewers
> complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> >> >
> >> > Don Snook
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My
> guess is they should be replaced.
> >> >
> >> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years
> was indoors?
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Nokain Entyre 2.0

Each?  That's supposed to be cheap??

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> Drove the van about 2000 miles so with these tars..   So far, they are
> round and stop well.  The RF Cooper CS4 had slipped belts with most of the
> tread left.
>
> Cost about $230 installed for 225/65 R 16.  That is about as cheap as you
> can go without getting into cheep chine gofer um (or similar) tars.
>
> We will see how they do over the next few years.
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

This car should now be Regina's - fix it enough to be road worthy again,
and leave the rest. Find a better one for yourself, or finish one of your x
number of project cars and drive that.

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> Can’t look too much like a beater.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/11/2017 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the
> hood if that is possible. We shall see.
> >>
> > Given that your business is car related, is it important that you show
> up driving something that looks good?
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

Can’t look too much like a beater.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/11/2017 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood if 
>> that is possible. We shall see.
>> 
> Given that your business is car related, is it important that you show up 
> driving something that looks good?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

For what? The tires? Can’t say I remember. Was probably about $130 each

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Cost??
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least 20k 
>> miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in heavy 
>> rain and they never lose traction.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.   
>> > I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior 
>> > wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this is a 
>> > valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were great.  I'm 
>> > not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car when I bought 
>> > them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with some used 
>> > Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an 
>> > alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced 
>> > them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain 
>> > storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior 
>> > Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying 
>> > to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these 
>> > Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate 
>> > and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning 
>> > on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some 
>> > reviewers complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road 
>> > noise.  They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior 
>> > Michelins.
>> >
>> > Don Snook
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
>> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
>> >
>> >
>> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My guess is 
>> >> they should be replaced.
>> >
>> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years was 
>> > indoors?
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

If we are talking safety, does cost matter?

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cost??
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least 20k
> > miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in heavy
> > rain and they never lose traction.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.
> >  I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior
> > wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this is
> a
> > valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were great.  I'm
> > not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car when I bought
> > them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with some used
> > Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an
> > alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced
> > them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain
> > storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior
> > Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying
> > to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these
> > Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate
> > and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning
> > on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some
> reviewers
> > complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> > They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> > >
> > > Don Snook
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> > >
> > >
> > >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My guess
> > is they should be replaced.
> > >
> > > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years
> > was indoors?
> > >
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[MBZ] Nokain Entyre 2.0

Drove the van about 2000 miles so with these tars..   So far, they are 
round and stop well.  The RF Cooper CS4 had slipped belts with most of 
the tread left.


Cost about $230 installed for 225/65 R 16.  That is about as cheap as 
you can go without getting into cheep chine gofer um (or similar) tars.


We will see how they do over the next few years.


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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

That's my plan, "spray and pray".  I've got a spare EDS computer or two
around, I"m going to order the capacitors for this repair and the pre-glow
relay repair.

Does anyone know the capacitor type / value for the tempomat computer?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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>  Or, for $1, just replace all
> of the electrolytic caps with good new parts!
>
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage


Easy for me to tell you what to do . . .
BUT, I think you need to find a better one and concentrate on making it 
your new work vehicle
AND refuse to let anyone else drive it. Tell them you have to have it 
for work and cannot let them put it at risk.


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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

Hey that car was featured in that news story when the 140 caught on fire.

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> 
> May be easier to sell the car due to its provenance - "Driven by star of
> nightly news roundup".
> 
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On November 1, 2017 at 9:21 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood
>> if that is possible. We shall see.
>> 
>> I'm sure you'll straighten it as best as you can, but I'm afraid you'll
>> always know it's messed up under the hood. Just think of it as another
>> reason not to sell it, carrying The Mark Of Regina lowers the resale value
>> too much.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage


On 01/11/2017 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood if 
that is possible. We shall see.

Given that your business is car related, is it important that you show 
up driving something that looks good?


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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

2017-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

>
> Dunno how you would measure capacitance, but replacement should be do-able
> with the resolder station.


A capacitor tester, of course!  My primary tester for these is my old
Heathkit IT-28, because it will do leakage tests at working voltage, and
the magic eye tube is good clean fun.  After that I can use either of two
value testers, the GenRad 1657 Digibridge, or the HP 4277A LCZ analyzer.
In a way those are overkill, but they _will_ give you the capacitance value
and more importantly a quality rating related to their series resistance.
Some multimeters will read out bare capacitance, but the ESR and breakdown
voltage readings are almost more important.  Or, for $1, just replace all
of the electrolytic caps with good new parts!

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

2017-11-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

MMM wrote:
> http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/03/push-button-gear-selector-switch-aka.html

I remember those, but which one?  ...dunno...
A car company needs to bring that back - nice fun function.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars


No!  I agree with you wholeheartedly!Mark the day!  Save the message!

My favorite car is still the 110.110.10.   But I still wish they came 
from the factory with a 5th over, a turbo and a sunroof.   Though I care 
less about the latter now.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Am I the only one who finds these 50 year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art electronic/digital readouts and gauges?



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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

Cost??

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least 20k
> miles and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in heavy
> rain and they never lose traction.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.
>  I have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior
> wet and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this is a
> valid claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were great.  I'm
> not sure how many miles they had as they were on the car when I bought
> them.  But, they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with some used
> Sumitomo and I thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an
> alignment issue and they were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced
> them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have driven in some nasty rain
> storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior
> Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   I am still trying
> to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I think these
> Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the interstate
> and there were several times I experienced a little slippage/hydroplaning
> on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent!Some reviewers
> complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess road noise.
> They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior Michelins.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> >
> >
> >> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My guess
> is they should be replaced.
> >
> > How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years
> was indoors?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

2017-11-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Max wrote:
> Come-along and a tree to anchor it,

A large tree, a piece of chain - that was me.  Some guy drove by and
told me it was chained to the tree ;-)
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

May be easier to sell the car due to its provenance - "Driven by star of
nightly news roundup".

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On November 1, 2017 at 9:21 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood
> if that is possible. We shall see.
>
> I'm sure you'll straighten it as best as you can, but I'm afraid you'll
> always know it's messed up under the hood. Just think of it as another
> reason not to sell it, carrying The Mark Of Regina lowers the resale value
> too much.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change


Easy, send me the inferior android fone and buy  a ifone 10!

I'll use the old android for car diagnostics only.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
November 1, 2017 at 9:50 AM
Apple only, too bad. I need to find equivalent for Android.

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

Thanks, I inherited an almost new resolder station I will keep at the
southern headquarters. I will try using it this winter if I ever get there.

Although, unplugging the idle form the IP and adjusting the idle speed
up on the IP cures the EDS problem adequately.

Dunno how you would measure capacitance, but replacement should be
do-able with the resolder station.

I have a 120VAC/12 VDC Power supply that has a loose capacitor to start
with.

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Great thread here for Curly and others with OM603 (or any analog engine
computers from the 80's and 90's, maybe others).

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/389414-eds-elr-idle-issues-om603.html

BLUF (bottom line up front): There are a handful of capacitors in the
computer that die and probably are the source of much woe, and replacing
them would be A GOOD IDEA if your OM603 has any idle quality issues or
kick-down switch issues.

"There are 5 Electrolytic capacitors on the EDS computer boards. On the 126
the EDS computer is located in the passenger kick compartment and requires
no tools to remove. Not sure about the 201 and 124.

4 phillips screws in the lid removes the boards which are clipped together.
Looking inside the 2 boards, you can see 2 heatsinks that are clamped to
some transistors on one of the boards. You will want to remove the 2
phillips screws holding the OTHER board to the main heatsink/plug assembly.
You can then lift it off and pivot backwards on the ribbon cable. There are
plastic clips that hold the 2 cards together, they simply unsnap.

Once you have the cards opened up like a book, the locations of the
capacitors are obvious and the capacitors are clearly marked. On the board
you didn't unscrew from the main heatsink/plug assembly, there are 4
capacitors: 100µF @ 50V Radial, 100µF @ 10V Axial, 22µF @ 40V Radial, 7µF @
63V Radial.

The board you unscrewed and pivoted out of the way has a single
electrolytic capacitor 22µF @ 16V Axial.

The circuit cards are double-sided, so be careful desoldering and
resoldering. I used 63V parts for all my replacements. 7µF is also not a
standard value, so I substituted a 6.8µF capacitor for it.

Out of all of my capacitors, only the 22µF radial was good (I replaced it
anyway). The next highest reading I got out of any of mine was .006µF In
Germany, they'd refer to that as "kaput".

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Re: [MBZ] And the blaming begins

Buy a mid 90's GM car with the 3800.  30 MPG and they are cheap.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:31 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: fmiser 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] And the blaming begins

This is a plan. An early 2000s Chevy Impala should be cheap cheap to buy and 
run. Boring as Wonder Bread...

-Curt
 

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Re: [MBZ] One For Kaleb

WOW!  If somebody had a set of sets and maybe some carpet, this looks like it 
could be great!  Diesel and manual!   Isn't the odometer repair relatively 
easy?  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:55 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] One For Kaleb

https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-300/6367497195.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] And the blaming begins

Greg wrote: 

"Once you accept the fact that it is ALWAYS the man's fault you will be much 
happier." 

Yep. Just ask Jimmy Buffet.  His songs are full of wisdom. 

Don Snook 
(not the Son of a Sailor, but still a Parrothead) 
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

Beautiful!!  The one inside the steering wheel is a bit much (imagine  the
labor involved in changing the steering wheel!), but I love the others.

Am I the only one who finds these 50 year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art electronic/digital readouts and gauges?

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:02 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/03/push-button-gear-
> selector-switch-aka.html
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not aware of that configuration.  Could you send a link?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My father 's 59 Plymouth  had the 'typewriter shift'. I wasn't driving
> > > then but IIRC, it was a delayed response & a bit sloppy.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Oct 31, 2017 1:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> OMG the interior/dash is so cool.  I wonder about fixing the push
> button
> > >> gear PRNDL should it ever misbehave...
> > >>
> > >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-plymouth-valiant-2/?
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

My sdl does not kick down at all with the floor switch 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Great thread here for Curly and others with OM603 (or any analog engine
> computers from the 80's and 90's, maybe others).
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/389414-eds-elr-idle-issues-om603.html
> 
> BLUF (bottom line up front): There are a handful of capacitors in the
> computer that die and probably are the source of much woe, and replacing
> them would be A GOOD IDEA if your OM603 has any idle quality issues or
> kick-down switch issues.
> 
> -
> 
> "There are 5 Electrolytic capacitors on the EDS computer boards. On the 126
> the EDS computer is located in the passenger kick compartment and requires
> no tools to remove. Not sure about the 201 and 124.
> 
> 4 phillips screws in the lid removes the boards which are clipped together.
> Looking inside the 2 boards, you can see 2 heatsinks that are clamped to
> some transistors on one of the boards. You will want to remove the 2
> phillips screws holding the OTHER board to the main heatsink/plug assembly.
> You can then lift it off and pivot backwards on the ribbon cable. There are
> plastic clips that hold the 2 cards together, they simply unsnap.
> 
> Once you have the cards opened up like a book, the locations of the
> capacitors are obvious and the capacitors are clearly marked. On the board
> you didn't unscrew from the main heatsink/plug assembly, there are 4
> capacitors: 100µF @ 50V Radial, 100µF @ 10V Axial, 22µF @ 40V Radial, 7µF @
> 63V Radial.
> 
> The board you unscrewed and pivoted out of the way has a single
> electrolytic capacitor 22µF @ 16V Axial.
> 
> The circuit cards are double-sided, so be careful desoldering and
> resoldering. I used 63V parts for all my replacements. 7µF is also not a
> standard value, so I substituted a 6.8µF capacitor for it.
> 
> Out of all of my capacitors, only the 22µF radial was good (I replaced it
> anyway). The next highest reading I got out of any of mine was .006µF In
> Germany, they'd refer to that as "kaput".
> 
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

Apple only, too bad.  I need to find equivalent for Android.

-
Max
Charleston SC


>
> > http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/
> >
> >
>
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[MBZ] OM603 EDS/ELR computer repair - replace the capacitors or your pistons will MELT!

Great thread here for Curly and others with OM603 (or any analog engine
computers from the 80's and 90's, maybe others).

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/389414-eds-elr-idle-issues-om603.html

The board you unscrewed and pivoted out of the way has a single
electrolytic capacitor 22µF @ 16V Axial.

The circuit cards are double-sided, so be careful desoldering and
resoldering. I used 63V parts for all my replacements. 7µF is also not a
standard value, so I substituted a 6.8µF capacitor for it.

Out of all of my capacitors, only the 22µF radial was good (I replaced it
anyway). The next highest reading I got out of any of mine was .006µF In
Germany, they'd refer to that as "kaput".

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

2017-11-01 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Not really. Like any maintenance program, you've got to be committed to 
entering the data. For things like fuel, since it's on my phone I just do it 
when I fuel the car - easy. For maintenance items, I do it after I've done the 
work.

If it's a repetitive operation, such as an oil and filter change, you can set 
them up for repeats with reminders based on either mileage or time, or both.

With multiple cars as I have, if an operation is already in the database, when 
you go to put a new instance in the program will attempt to replicate it if you 
like, even if it was same thing you did only on a different car.

It will dump records to a .csv (MS Excel) if you like as well.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Is it a pain to enter everything?  Is it pretty easy to use?  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:06 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change
> 
> Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple 
> of months ago:
> 
> http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/
> 
> It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used 
> in years.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] I give up, just shoot me now please

Geez.  That's sucks.  Sorry Kaleb.  The damage to the bucket truck isn't bad. 
But, I'm guessing it is still going to be pricey. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] I give up, just shoot me now please

Wife, who is driving my primary work vehicle which I have poured a TON of money 
and work into, and it is a VERY reliable vehicle at 340k miles, just texted me 
this. Last photo is the damage to the other car, which appears to be a slight 
scratch on the bumper of a bucket truck. Not sure if I can bring this one back 
to life. Unbelievable. I have had this car for 8 years or so. I highly suspect 
texting while driving. 

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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

"Floyd" has the $500 beater here in Charleston SC area, that was his
purchase price: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com

It would need some work to be ready for your commute.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb has a $500 car to sell?  What is it?  Is it up for a 130 mile
> commute every day?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Rick wrote: 

"Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
like that Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 
Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to be 
around company that lives within their means. So few people do that today" 

I am cheap and do not want a car payment.  I haven't had one in years and don't 
want to start now.  I really just need to get one car.  I have two 7 series and 
an old Truck.  I don't want to get anything too fancy.  All the lawyers around 
here (two small towns McPherson and Marion Kansas) drive trucks.  My old BMW 
still sticks out a little.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:08 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Barrister Snook opines:

>‎VERY nice cars. But, much too new and >too much $$ for me. 

Man, you need some wealthier clientele, or start chasing more ambulances. 
Perhaps a pizza or two delivered to the ER with your business card attached 
every week? Heck, a GM service manager probably makes enough to afford a car 
like that

Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 

Gotta poke a little fun at the J.D.'s once in a while. It's actually nice to be 
around company that lives within their means. So few people do that today

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

Kaleb has a $500 car to sell?  What is it?  Is it up for a 130 mile commute 
every day? 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq

There ya go. 
Sell the $500 606 turbo beater to Snook. 
Those things get 30mpg at 80mph, don't they?
Mitch. 

> On October 30, 2017 at 10:04 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought we were talking about a car for me?   
> 
> I'm  interested.  Seriously. 
> 
> Don Snook.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:32 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One or Two for Mr. Snook, Esq
> 
> We will have to talk.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > That's the one I bought from the estate sale, $1300.  Haven't done anything 
> > with it yet, sitting in the barn, I start it occasionally and it lights 
> > right off.  I drove it before I got it and the brakes were grinding and 
> > grabby but worked, car ran very well except the throttle return spring is 
> > missing or broken or something (which is interesting, I pulled one off the 
> > 79 300TD and the 78 300CD has a different throttle linkage arrangement so 
> > it doesn;t seem to be the same).  I haven't even looked at it much yet due 
> > to some other issues.
> > 
> > The story is this woman owned it since like 1981 or so, it was her baby,  
> > She died a coupla years ago, and the long-time BF would start it 
> > occasionally and move it around the driveway and wash it, but she never let 
> > him drive it when she was alive, so he never drove it after she couldn't 
> > drive it or after she died.  She kept it up in good shape, it was sitting 
> > under a carport so out of the weather mostly.  She had it repainted at some 
> > point after a storm knocked down some branches or something and dinged it 
> > up a bit. It is white with black leather interior, very minor damage to 
> > drivers seat, rest of interior looks really nice.  Some rust starting to 
> > show up under the side trim, you can see where it is starting to discolor a 
> > bit, so there's that.  Trunk seemed to be leaking, I think probably the 
> > rear window seal so maybe some caulk would fix that.
> > 
> > AC ran down, probably just needs a charge unless the seals are bad.  Belt 
> > is off but compressor seemed to spin so I don't know. Would probably need a 
> > set of tires if you were going to drive it far or fast but they had good 
> > tread, just likely old.
> > 
> > It's a pretty nice car actually, very clean and looks good from 20ft and 
> > everything is there and straight.  Runs, drives.  I was thinking to BAT it 
> > unless someone wants it.
> > 
> > Bring your trailer and haul it and the E$500 dizzel home, we could work 
> > something out.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > 
> >> On 10/28/17 10:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Really? So what is the deal?
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>  There's a nice 78 300CD sitting here I could let go for cheapcheap, in 
> >>> pretty decent shape.  Starts right up, runs well. Needs some brake 
> >>> sorting from sitting, probably at least rotors and pads, maybe calipers, 
> >>> but that is no big deal.  Fly to CHS and drive it home.
> >>> 
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>  On 10/27/17 2:34 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>  WOW That 300SDL is nice.  But 405K miles? Wow.  I don't think that would 
>  get better than 25 mpg. Right? It is nice.
>  
>  I am lusting in my heart for the Green 240D.  My trip is 65 miles and 
>  I'm guessing it might take 15 to get up to 80MPH.   Or will one these 
>  actually go that fast?  It would get great mileage!
>  
>  The brown/maroon 83 300D looks great.  But, I'm not sure its going to 
>  get 28-20 mpg at 80 mph.
>  
>  Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

I have those on my now wrecked 97 e300. I have put probably at least 20k miles 
and they are still like new. I can drive nearly full speed in heavy rain and 
they never lose traction. 

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.   I 
> have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior wet 
> and cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this is a valid 
> claim.  My car had Michelins on it before and they were great.  I'm not sure 
> how many miles they had as they were on the car when I bought them.  But, 
> they lasted a VERY long time.  I replaced them with some used Sumitomo and I 
> thought they were decent.  I did apparently have an alignment issue and they 
> were VERY fast on the outside edge.  I replaced them with the Premiere 2 
> months ago and have driven in some nasty rain storms.  They had MUCH better 
> grip than both the Sumitomo and the prior Michelin.  I am curious how they 
> will do in the snow.   I am still trying to locate a decent set of snow tires 
> for my car.  But, I think these Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 
> 80-85 mph on the interstate and there were several times I experienced a 
> little slippage/hydroplaning on the old set.  But, these new ones have been 
> excellent!Some reviewers complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice 
> any excess road noise.  They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as 
> the prior Michelins. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> 
> 
>> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My guess is 
>> they should be replaced.
> 
> How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years was 
> indoors?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

Is it a pain to enter everything?  Is it pretty easy to use?  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple of 
months ago:

http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/

It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used in 
years.

-D

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fuel mileage - was: Two Questions

If he judges all his future cars on fuel mileage compared to the 190D, he is 
going to be disappointed in the future! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Cathey [mailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:20 AM
To: Donald Snook 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fuel mileage - was: Two Questions

>
> If you don't like the 190D perhaps you should sell it.

It is to be the boy's first car.  Stickshift.  Not particularly valuable but 
reasonably safe.  And we already own it.  He just turned 16.  He's reasonably 
interested in its fuel economy, as we've had him filling the other cars at the 
gas station as practice.  He was pretty shocked to 'discover' that it's pretty 
much $50 a pop these days, and they happen fairly often---especially on the 
wife's X5, which is now on its second engine, the first one apparently having 
been worn out due to IMHO the excessive driving.  He's becoming aware of how 
long it takes to earn $50 down at his stratum.

-- Jim

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[MBZ] Michelin Premiere Review was RE: Tires

Speaking of tires, I can now provide a review of the Michelin Premiere.   I 
have already put 7,000 miles on them.   They are marketed for superior wet and 
cold traction.  I can report that based on my experience this is a valid claim. 
 My car had Michelins on it before and they were great.  I'm not sure how many 
miles they had as they were on the car when I bought them.  But, they lasted a 
VERY long time.  I replaced them with some used Sumitomo and I thought they 
were decent.  I did apparently have an alignment issue and they were VERY fast 
on the outside edge.  I replaced them with the Premiere 2 months ago and have 
driven in some nasty rain storms.  They had MUCH better grip than both the 
Sumitomo and the prior Michelin.  I am curious how they will do in the snow.   
I am still trying to locate a decent set of snow tires for my car.  But, I 
think these Premiere will do pretty well.  My commute is 80-85 mph on the 
interstate and there were several times I experienced a little 
slippage/hydroplaning on the old set.  But, these new ones have been excellent! 
   Some reviewers complain about road noise.  But, I don't notice any excess 
road noise.  They are quieter than the Sumitomo and as quiet as the prior 
Michelins. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires

> On October 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The tires on this 240d are dated 3105. They still look good. My guess is they 
> should be replaced.

How much UV exposure have they had, and how much of the last 12 years was 
indoors?

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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

> On November 1, 2017 at 9:21 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood if 
> that is possible. We shall see.

I'm sure you'll straighten it as best as you can, but I'm afraid you'll always 
know it's messed up under the hood. Just think of it as another reason not to 
sell it, carrying The Mark Of Regina lowers the resale value too much. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

Come-along and a tree to anchor it, pull that metal right back into
position.  Looks like a tab has been pulled free and will need to be welded
up.

Have your lift working in your shop?  Maybe take some dimensional
measurements from below first to make sure the unibody isn't tweaked.
Wouldn't want to waste time and $ on fixing that to find out that it cannot
be aligned and will dog-leg down the road, wearing out tars.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

Well I would like it to look right and not all mangled up under the hood if 
that is possible. We shall see.

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 1, 2017 at 9:04 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Who it’s for will be me and it was my main work car.
> 
> Right. 
> And replacing the exterior fender and perfecting the headlight aim makes it 
> good enough, right?
> Or you really care if it looks wrong with the hood open?
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

> On November 1, 2017 at 9:04 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Who it’s for will be me and it was my main work car.

Right. 
And replacing the exterior fender and perfecting the headlight aim makes it 
good enough, right?
Or you really care if it looks wrong with the hood open?

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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage

Who it’s for will be me and it was my main work car.

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure you can make it "good enough for who it's for".
> The hard part will probably be making the headlight point in exactly the 
> right direction again. 
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Re: [MBZ] A closer look at the damage