Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The “Real” gas station used to carry 92 octane ethanol free.  It seems every 
time I went to fuel up, the octane dropped a point until now it is only 88 
octane.  Still not going to put alcohol into the SL.

clay 

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> On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On July 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) 
> 
> We can't get 87 octane no ethanol around here, but we can get 89 octane for 
> about a dollar a gallon more than 93 octane gasahol. (yes, $4/gallon for 
> "outdoor power equipment fuel")
> I buy six gallons of it in the fall. Whatever doesn't go through the 
> generator over the winter goes in the mowers in the spring. Main reason I buy 
> it is that it doesn't oxidize and make varnish in a sealed container. 
> 
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] Mental health issues?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

our subdivision has homes with shallow depressions running along the 
road with culverts under the driveways - for storm runoff - common 
practice when something in the back of a pickup needs unloading is to 
backup so the open tailgate touches the side of the depression where it 
starts going uphill toward the house. Most of the time it's a smooth 
transition from truck to lawn. Had my lawn tractor delivered that way ;-)


Larry


On 07/24/2018 8:29 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Seriously, there are a few ways to get a drum off a truck (or  onto it)

Lay the drum down and roll it off a plank that bridges the tailgate to 
the ground

use a barrel sling and a hoist
put it on a pallet and use a forklift
Get four big dumb swedes to pick it up.
Use, or build, a loading dock.
Use or build a set of 1 or more steps to take it down a few inches at 
a time.  Stack 2 or 3 pallets and end over end it onto the pallets, 
then onto the ground (or vice versa)



Having grown up with wood barrels and steel drums, I have used all 
sorts of methods to  move em.


Yesterday I loaded and unloaded a 165 lb propane tank.  That is easier 
than a 30 gal. barrel/drum.

Just about anyone can handle a 30 gal barrel once they know how to do it.
A 55 gallon takes a real man to lay it over or stand it up without 
damage.


tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

How do you get it off of the tailgate?




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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting read/vids

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

The decision to sink the barge in the middle of the lake (at the deepest 
point) was tough on the team as they knew the barge would doom the 20-30 
innocent civilians traveling on it that night. keeping the nuclear bomb 
away from Hitler should have earned that team a Nobel Prize (or 
something), IMO.


The damage he would have done is hard to imagine.  But I understand 
later the intelligent teams determined hitler was not as close to 
developing the Bomb as they had once thought.  seems he was at least 5 
years behind the US. IIRC.


Larry


On 07/24/2018 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Th*ere was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk
Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the
Nazis had*.

Also a fine feature film starring Kirk Douglas titled "The Heroes of
Telemark".  I spent a summer in Telemark doing geological mapping.  The
owner of the local hotel was a leader of the team that sank the barge
transporting the heavy water.  He was a local and national hero for Norway.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


My daughter got me a book called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare".
https://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Ungentlemanly-Warfare-
Churchills-Warriors/dp/1681443929. about the guerillas and saboteurs that
the Brits had in WW2, and the story of how they came to be and the missions
they accomplished.  It is a delightful read, very engaging, I'm sure many
of you would really enjoy it.

Netflix also has a short series on modern day folks going through similar
training as to what these guys did back then, it is a bit contrived but
somewhat diverting. https://www.netflix.com/title/80195811

There was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk
Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the
Nazis had.


  The Heavy Water War | Netflix
  

i think it might be deleted now

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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Agree wholeheartedly!  I had a 78 Malibu w/a smallish V8 - the engine 
(not the transmission) ran great but all the other bits of the car had 
been "cheaped to death" as you described, I especially disliked the 
fasteners - mostly flat sheet metal w/a little hole and a twisted piece 
of metal in the hole to grab the bolt (barely).  they always seemed too 
strip way to easily.


That car was a good car, but without the cheapy-ness it would have been 
much better.  I'm sure there were more things I disliked but it's been 
30+ years..  ;-)


LarryT


On 07/24/2018 9:08 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Another GM idea cheaped to death



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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Curley,

I'll buy the pump. How do you want to be paid?
What is the inlet/outlet pipe size? [doesn't matter, I'll take it
regardless.]
Grant

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things.  I have a new
> one I'd sell for $75.  It is all plastic
>
>
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like
>> you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . .
>> I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that
>> handle 5 times per gallon.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'll take it... What is the outlet size?  Where and how do you want to be
paid?
Grant...

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things.  I have a new
> one I'd sell for $75.  It is all plastic
>
>
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like
>> you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . .
>> I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that
>> handle 5 times per gallon.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Actually, the US went Metric long before there was an SAE system.  Ask Model T 
owners about wrenches, for instance.

The US Army went metric in 1911 when the system was officially adopted.  The 
Navy stayed inch based for a very long time even though there wasn't much of a 
Navy in 1911.

SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) standards date from the 1920s when auto 
manufacturers needed suppliers for standardized parts like rear axles, wheels, 
transmissions, and so forth.  Before that they all made their own, and 
"standards" varied quite a bit.

Ball and roller bearings have always been metric.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Two problems with those GM engines:  original rear main bearing design was 
grossly inadequate and the fuel filters were totally inadequate for the quality 
of the fuel available (read very poor).  

Very small amounts of water in the fuel would trash the rotary pump (I seem to 
remember it was a Stanadyne, but I'm not really sure) and there was no water 
trap in the fuel filter, which wasn't fine enough anyway.  Lots of dead cars 
because the fuel pump ate itself on truck stop diesel.  Truck diesel was 
terrible in those days, it's still not really up to European grade.

It was common to spin a rear bearing at 25,000 mile intervals on the early 
engines.

As a stationary engine with good fuel they run forever.

They also had glow plug issues, the compression was too low, and the heads had 
cracking problems in road use, too.

Another GM idea cheaped to death -- with a turbo, 21:1 compression ratio, and 
properly programmed injection timing it would have cranked out 250 hp and 300 
ft/lbs of torque and been a screamer.  Instead it was either a boat anchor or a 
smoke belching slug.  They were VERY slow on upgrades, and smoked horribly at 
full throttle like all low compression diesels.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

No, you are the only holdouts.Canada switched to metric in 1970.I am just old 
enough to convert metric backwards to feet and gallons.My children think in 
metric.RB


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 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-07-24  7:48 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader 
Imperial gallon = 160 FL oz.   = 5 US quarts
US gallon = 128 Fl Oz.  = 4 US Quarts

Every where else but CA and US has litters of liters.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
>  . . .  and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere.
>
> RB


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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

a lot of them never lived long enough to go back to the stealer because 
it needed service.  They just self destructed.   The early 80s GM 
diesels are POS.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Not really. The big problem with them was back then people did not know how to 
work on them (dealers)





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Re: [MBZ] 606 fuel filters

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Might be the okie sand you use to dilute the fuel.

Maybe you should sell of those Ps of S and get a 240D!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Why do 606 engines eat the center gasket on the spin on fuel filters. I just 
had to replace the filter in my 95 because it started getting to where it had 
no power when trying to pass a vehicle for example. I have had this happen in 
just about every 606 I have owned. I usually notice it more in the winter where 
when I first leave the house it starts smoking bad and will hardly run. After 
the engine warms up a bit it runs fine. Anyway ever single time it ends up 
being the center o ring on the filter where the bolt screws in is chewed 
letting air in. I got about 15k on this filter. Most of them have been Mann, 
this time I put Mayle or however it’s spelled.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Imperial gallon = 160 FL oz.   = 5 US quarts
US gallon = 128 Fl Oz.  = 4 US Quarts

Every where else but CA and US has litters of liters.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:


 . . .  and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not really. The big problem with them was back then people did not know how to 
work on them (dealers)

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> On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is still a POS.  Rumor of not, it doesn't matter.  A POS is a POS.
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted 
>> gas engine. This is a rumor.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is still a POS.  Rumor of not, it doesn't matter.  A POS is a POS.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas 
engine. This is a rumor.





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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things.  I have a new 
one I'd sell for $75.  It is all plastic




OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like
you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . .
I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that
handle 5 times per gallon.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Seriously, there are a few ways to get a drum off a truck (or  onto it)

Lay the drum down and roll it off a plank that bridges the tailgate to 
the ground

use a barrel sling and a hoist
put it on a pallet and use a forklift
Get four big dumb swedes to pick it up.
Use, or build, a loading dock.
Use or build a set of 1 or more steps to take it down a few inches at a 
time.  Stack 2 or 3 pallets and end over end it onto the pallets, then 
onto the ground (or vice versa)



Having grown up with wood barrels and steel drums, I have used all sorts 
of methods to  move em.


Yesterday I loaded and unloaded a 165 lb propane tank.  That is easier 
than a 30 gal. barrel/drum.

Just about anyone can handle a 30 gal barrel once they know how to do it.
A 55 gallon takes a real man to lay it over or stand it up without damage.

tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

How do you get it off of the tailgate?




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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Kick!

tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

How do you get it off of the tailgate?




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[MBZ] 606 fuel filters

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Why do 606 engines eat the center gasket on the spin on fuel filters. I just 
had to replace the filter in my 95 because it started getting to where it had 
no power when trying to pass a vehicle for example. I have had this happen in 
just about every 606 I have owned. I usually notice it more in the winter where 
when I first leave the house it starts smoking bad and will hardly run. After 
the engine warms up a bit it runs fine. Anyway ever single time it ends up 
being the center o ring on the filter where the bolt screws in is chewed 
letting air in. I got about 15k on this filter. Most of them have been Mann, 
this time I put Mayle or however it’s spelled. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, nice to know we are still allowed to have an opinion, on this list any 
way...
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 23, 2018 8:23:17 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>Your opinion may vary, however.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I recall that the failed 6.2l in my '87? Suburban was a Mexican product. Was 
the 5.7 also Mexican?

Greg 

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Striplin via Mercedes
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas 
engine. This is a rumor.

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> On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them?  I seem 
> to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small.   Less that 1/2 mile per 
> gallon IIRC.
> 
> Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas 
> engine to diesel.  A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling 
> pretty bad.  And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly 
> than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course.
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 
>> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 BTW,  When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US?  I
 assume they're still being made and sold in other markets...
 
 LarryT
 
 For instance:  In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel.   RTW gets
>>> dissels.   The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting read/vids

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Very cool!

--FT


On 7/24/18 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Th/ere was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk 
Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the 
Nazis had/.


Also a fine feature film starring Kirk Douglas titled "The Heroes of 
Telemark".  I spent a summer in Telemark doing geological mapping.  
The owner of the local hotel was a leader of the team that sank the 
barge transporting the heavy water. He was a local and national hero 
for Norway.


On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


My daughter got me a book called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly
Warfare".

https://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Ungentlemanly-Warfare-Churchills-Warriors/dp/1681443929

.
about the guerillas and saboteurs that the Brits had in WW2, and
the story of how they came to be and the missions they
accomplished.  It is a delightful read, very engaging, I'm sure
many of you would really enjoy it.

Netflix also has a short series on modern day folks going through
similar training as to what these guys did back then, it is a bit
contrived but somewhat diverting.
https://www.netflix.com/title/80195811


There was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the
Norsk Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic
program the Nazis had.


     The Heavy Water War | Netflix
     >

i think it might be deleted now

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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting read/vids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Th*ere was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk
Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the
Nazis had*.

Also a fine feature film starring Kirk Douglas titled "The Heroes of
Telemark".  I spent a summer in Telemark doing geological mapping.  The
owner of the local hotel was a leader of the team that sank the barge
transporting the heavy water.  He was a local and national hero for Norway.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My daughter got me a book called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare".
> https://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Ungentlemanly-Warfare-
> Churchills-Warriors/dp/1681443929. about the guerillas and saboteurs that
> the Brits had in WW2, and the story of how they came to be and the missions
> they accomplished.  It is a delightful read, very engaging, I'm sure many
> of you would really enjoy it.
>
> Netflix also has a short series on modern day folks going through similar
> training as to what these guys did back then, it is a bit contrived but
> somewhat diverting. https://www.netflix.com/title/80195811
>
> There was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk
> Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the
> Nazis had.
>
>
>  The Heavy Water War | Netflix
>  
>
> i think it might be deleted now
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[MBZ] OT interesting read/vids

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My daughter got me a book called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly 
Warfare". 
https://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Ungentlemanly-Warfare-Churchills-Warriors/dp/1681443929. 
about the guerillas and saboteurs that the Brits had in WW2, and the 
story of how they came to be and the missions they accomplished.  It is 
a delightful read, very engaging, I'm sure many of you would really 
enjoy it.


Netflix also has a short series on modern day folks going through 
similar training as to what these guys did back then, it is a bit 
contrived but somewhat diverting. https://www.netflix.com/title/80195811


There was also a documentary I saw about the destruction of the Norsk 
Hydro heavy water plant that was contributing to an atomic program the 
Nazis had.



 The Heavy Water War | Netflix
 

i think it might be deleted now

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

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On 24/07/2018 12:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Gallon weight:
Jet A / JP5   = 6.8 lbs per gallon
AV Gas .   = 6.6 lbs per gallon

Fresh water = 8.34 lbs per gallon
Sea water ...= 8.57 lbs per gallon [based on a calculated average of salt
density]



 . . .  and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The nice thing about 8#/gal is that you never estimate low and you can use the 
old "A pint is a pound the world around."
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 7:28:28 AM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Looks like my memory of flight training, (geez, has it been 40 years 
already?), is the fuzzy part -  time really does fly.  You are 100% 
correct - bravo to your memory! Not fuzzy at all...

LarryT



On 07/23/2018 11:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to 
>> estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which 
>> is way under the 2000# limit.  but i think plywood under the drum to 
>> distribute the weight can't hurt ---
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Larry
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 A very persistent rumor. I'm pretty sure we've discussed it on this forum 
repeatedly...
-Curt

On Monday, July 23, 2018, 10:30:24 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas 
engine. This is a rumor.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them?  I seem 
> to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small.  Less that 1/2 mile per 
> gallon IIRC.
> 
> Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas 
> engine to diesel.  A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling 
> pretty bad.  And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly 
> than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course.
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 
>> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 BTW,  When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US?  I
 assume they're still being made and sold in other markets...
 
 LarryT
 
 For instance:  In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel.  RTW gets
>>> dissels.  The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here.
>>> 
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[MBZ] 108 280S sold

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was a little light in my estimate, others heavy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-280sel/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-07-19
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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes - fuel is 6 lb/gal, oil is 7 lb/gal, and water is 8 lb/gal.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to
> estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which
> is way under the 2000# limit.  but i think plywood under the drum to
> distribute the weight can't hurt ---
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On 07/23/2018 9:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane
>> -
>> use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the
>> Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between
>> mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;))
>>>
>>> As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my
>>> trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will
>>> be
>>> with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a
>>> barrel
>>> cart, at ground level...
>>>
>>> Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20
>>> minutes
>>> using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the
>>> barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel
>>> using
>>> that same system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>
 wrote:
 How do you get it off of the tailgate?


 Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
  Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23  7:37 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
 Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: G Mann <
 g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
 I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but
 only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the
 weight load.
 It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute

>>> the
>>>
 load beyond the rim of the barrel.

 With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much

>>> wider
>>>
 area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides
 across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle.

 I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well.

 On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

 Has anyone seen one of these in action?
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html
>
> Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed
>
 onto

> the tailgate?
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>
 of

> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>
 who

> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>
 fence
>>>
 for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Looks like my memory of flight training, (geez, has it been 40 years 
already?), is the fuzzy part -  time really does fly.  You are 100% 
correct - bravo to your memory! Not fuzzy at all...


LarryT



On 07/23/2018 11:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes  
wrote:

I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate 
the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way under 
the 2000# limit.  but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the weight 
can't hurt ---

Am I missing something?

Larry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I would get a $40 drum dolly from Northern Tool (HF doesn't have them) and put 
a couple of eye bolts in a corner(s) of the sides/ends of the bed to keep it 
from rolling around when driving. 
This is not a suggestion and may be more dangerous than having the barrel flat 
on the bed of the pickup truck. Your experience may be different than mine. 
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=northern+tool+drum+dollies=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b-1-ab
or Google
"Northern Tool drum dollies"
Gerry
-
OK Don wrote:
> Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting
> a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the
> barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out
> from under the shell.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> > How do you get it off of the tailgate?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
> >  Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23  7:37 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> > Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: G Mann <
> > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
> > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but
> > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the
> > weight load.
> > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the
> > load beyond the rim of the barrel.
> >
> > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider
> > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides
> > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle.
> >
> > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone seen one of these in action?
> > >
> > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html
> > >
> > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed
> > onto
> > > the tailgate?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > OK Don
> > >
> > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> > of
> > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > >
> > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> > who
> > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > > for themselves."
> > >
> > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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