Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Mitch inquires:

>Bearing failure or maintenance failure?

Bearing failure. It has 92k miles, so I suspect that it sat for some time.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W126 300SD on BAT

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Whole rear suspension looked like new parts, including the lower control
arms,

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 5:39 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

> Nice color but still sold for stupid money.
> .
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300sd-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-12-03
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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick! Fired
right up. Man the new brakes are awesome. Of course the claw on the hammer
pulled the transmission and vacuum shutoff lines off the injection pump, so
after I drove the front end up on the leaning towers of lumber pyramid
scheme, it wouldnt shut off.

Headlight bulb is now out on the left side, and my glass is all pitted
anyway. I thought I had new hella lenses coming from Latvia but apparently
they want a bank transfer or something.

Passenger seat is all recovered after epic sessions with the instrument
panel removal tool and a million little white clips. Just need to cut some
holes in the cover for headrest and arm rest, which has me measuring twice
and cutting once. I will drop this seat onto the drivers side adjuster,
then pull my old drivers seat to swap the non memory motors into sportline
frame #2

I got a seat heater harness out of Russia, so that will have to go in
sometime with a new console wood.

Water to air setup is pretty much together. It will get welded into the
intake after some creative amputation with the table saw. I am trying to
find some thin little curved radiators to fit under the bumper cover. The
yzf1000r radiators are the only curved ones I know of, but they are curved
a bit too much I think. No air to air as I am keeping the ac.

Got some sportline rear shocks out of the fatherland. There were only 3
left. Tried to find the Sachs part number but nothing listed. I think it
was discontinued long ago. The regular s124 ones are still obtainable from
Sachs in a couple of flavors fyi.

Oh yes and the air no longer blows hot for some reason. Need to sort that
out.

Joys of old car ownership. At least the s123 is fully sorted. Man that
thing is just nice. They should all get the new steering box, new head, new
turbo and new transmission treatment. About the only things not new are the
halfshafts and rear subframe bushings. Maybe a 15" wheel upgrade and Gen 2
126 brakes would be nice.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in about the w124 no start. Thinking of
replacing the neutral safety switch on general principal. Bushings are
quite loose.

On Dec 3, 2018 7:30 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

You’re really limited on this car as to what the problem can be:

Battery (not)
Neutral safety switch (not)
Solenoid
Starter

Get a piece of wood, long ratchet extension or baseball bat and give the
starter and solenoid a good 2-3 smacks, real hard.

I’m betting the solenoid is stuck or hung up.  once this brute force
approach frees it up, order a rebuilt started from a trusted supplier.


-D



> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks I tried it with a half inch ratchet, but no go. It has to be the
> solenoid since it doesnt even click.
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 7:41 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>
>> I've experienced starters with "dead spots" or stuck brushes.  Try
>> whacking it a couple times with a hammer.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
>>> Wittnebel via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 8:30 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
>>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td
>>>
>>> Shorting the pins at the terminal block does nothing. I jumped the car
>> also, and
>>> the behavior did not change. I did note that shifting the car into and
>> out of
>>> park and neutral while the switch is in the start position caused
>> dimming of all
>>> the dash lights, implying a short in the system and also implying that
>> the
>>> neutral safety switch is operating correctly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK, here you go:
> 
> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
> parts guy, to which I said:
> 
> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”

How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My 2003 ML was running very unhappily this weekend, like it was missing 2-3 of 
its cylinders. After 3/8 mile it put on a CEL so I turned around and went home. 

After seeing the crappy spark current traces on a Snap-On Soleus scanner, I 
figured it was time to get rid of the unknown age spark plugs and see if that 
cleaned it up. Coils are $50 each and a plug wire set is over $100.

It's running OK now after I cleared all the codes, so I wonder if the ECM shut 
off the cylinders that were throwing too many misfires. I wonder how old the 
plugs are, and if I could have saved any fuel if I'd replaced the plugs 3000 
miles ago when I bought it. 20-22mpg hwy is the best I ever got out of it. 

Rock is selling Autolite XP3924 Iridium plugs for $4.15, and Autolite has a $3 
rebate, so I figured that was a decent deal on a car I have to buy 12 plugs 
for. They started charging sales tax, so the tax exceeded the 5% coupon code I 
used. Maybe I should have just bought them on Amazon for free shipping.  

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2018 at 11:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wasn't it Saturn that Hurst railed against for fitting a crappy oiler that 
> resulted in chain failure?

The first US built cars with the Ecotec engine were the 2000 Saturn L series. 
Midway through 2003 they put bigger chain oiling orifices in them. You could 
buy an upgrade kit with new chain, tensioner and oil orifice for around $100 
IIRC. Fatty seemed mostly mad that nobody told him he needed the upgrade kit 
until it was too late. 

Fatty's mom had a stick shift L series Saturn IIRC, and she apparently drives 
like me.
The problem was, if you didn't wind the engine up high enough to hit max oil 
pressure, you didn't put enough oil on the chain. It was hard to do with an 
auto transmission, but if you had a stick and shifted at 2000 rpm, and didn't 
do much high speed driving, you could kill the chain in about 80,000 miles. I 
think MamaFatty got 80-90k out of hers. 

Anyway the first three years of 2.2L Saturns and the same engine in the Alero 
and Grand Am were susceptible. The Cavalier/Sunfire got the engine as an option 
in 2003, so some of the early J bodies had the problem too. Stick to 2004 and 
later model years and you don't have to worry about it.

I've got the same engine in my stick shift 2007 Saturn, and drive like a 
grandmother, but there's nothing wrong with the engine after 219k, the last 33k 
driven by me. But mine came with the high volume chain oiler, I only use 
synthetic oil, and it's geared to do 2700 on the highway. I think the early 
ones were geared taller.  
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Hahaha

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes she bought it new in 2002. Her first car which has proven to be quite 
> reliable. She’s looking to upgrade now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Kari drives a SATURN??
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:48 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts 
 are for POS
 
 
 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
> I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my 
> garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
> Rick
> 
> 
 
 
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[MBZ] 126 door striker insert

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This one looks quite useful.  I think it is the same as for the 123s.  I 
need 4 for the 240D.  I had figured I'd have to buy new striker 
assemblies for the doors, but if I can find someone who can print these 
with nylon, and IF they will fit 123, that would be the way to go.


https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1568388

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes, it was a Saturn the fats crushed.

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 10:18 PM:

Wasn't it Saturn that Hurst railed against for fitting a crappy oiler that 
resulted in chain failure?
Curt




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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Shifter bushings

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

3D printing files available here:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2840880

But they are easily available from the stealers and our favorite online 
sources, and cheap.


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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I pay a guy to do the belts on my VW, $800 well spent on the '05, that price 
includes a water pump and coolant swap.
Curt

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  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Peter Frederick via 
Mercedes wrote:   I don't know, my neighbors had a Volvo 
240 with 250k on it and what appears to have been the original belt.

Just have to change them when they are due.

I've had a few cars with them, and the only real issue was a defective 
tensioner that flew apart on my Audi Fox in the middle of the night in the 
middle of nowhere -- should have done what the manual recommended and replace 
the tensioner with the belt.

Will probably do the next one in the Golf, hopefully will be retired by then.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Wasn't it Saturn that Hurst railed against for fitting a crappy oiler that 
resulted in chain failure?
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
wrote:   Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.  Timing belts are 
> for POS
> 
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
>> I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my 
>> garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Once you get out of greater LA it's a long run down to San Diego,short of a 
Tesla nothing pure electric will make it...
Curt

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  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   
> On December 3, 2018 at 8:01 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>  The only time the Prius would do better is sitting in traffic...

I thought there were two styles of freeway commuting in SoCal, HOV lanes and 
"sitting in traffic".
A frisky E-mobile like a Spark or a Bolt excels at both. (but I heard something 
about them no longer handing out HOV stickers to E-mobile owners, is that true?)
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2018 at 10:37 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now the old fellow may be guilty, but consider this.  In Georgia, a woman is 
> suing one of the counties and the company that makes the field drug test kit. 
>  She spent two months in jail before the state crime lab confirmed what she 
> told the police officers...it was cotton candy.

The test kit is supposed to turn blue when you expose it to meth. 
It's not all that reliable in doing that, but it does reliably turn blue when 
you expose it to...blue food coloring. The substance in question was a huge 
plastic bag of blue cotton candy, for crying out loud. 

But the best part, after the testing was complete two months later, the 
persecuting attorney's office kept her in jail for another month before they 
decided to cut her loose for lack of evidence. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes she bought it new in 2002. Her first car which has proven to be quite 
> reliable. She’s looking to upgrade now.

My '07 Ion only has 219k on the odo. That'll fix her up for another five years. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] What Happens If You Fill Up a Car with Anti-Freeze?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Me too.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Dec 3, 2018 11:48 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, THAT'S four minutes of my life I want back...   :P
>
> -MMM-
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:25 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > https://youtu.be/0nrGn6OW7Vg
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's pretty cool. Tell her to hold out until 2025 when well cared for
Saturns will be worth 6 figures.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM Dimitri  wrote:

> Yes she bought it new in 2002. Her first car which has proven to be quite
> reliable. She’s looking to upgrade now.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> Kari drives a SATURN??
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:48 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts
>> are for POS
>> >
>> >
>> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
>> >> I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in
>> my garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
>> >> Rick
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Now the old fellow may be guilty, but consider this.  In Georgia, a woman is 
suing one of the counties and the company that makes the field drug test kit.  
She spent two months in jail before the state crime lab confirmed what she told 
the police officers...it was cotton candy.  Hope she uses the tax money wisely 
and hopefully the company that makes the test kits will go out of business.  If 
it happened to this woman, it could happen to anyone.  Weird, weird, world.

Good luck to all and Merry Christmas,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yes she bought it new in 2002. Her first car which has proven to be quite 
reliable. She’s looking to upgrade now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Kari drives a SATURN??
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:48 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts 
>> > are for POS
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
>> >> I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my 
>> >> garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
>> >> Rick
>> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I don't know, my neighbors had a Volvo 240 with 250k on it and what appears to 
have been the original belt.

Just have to change them when they are due.

I've had a few cars with them, and the only real issue was a defective 
tensioner that flew apart on my Audi Fox in the middle of the night in the 
middle of nowhere -- should have done what the manual recommended and replace 
the tensioner with the belt.

Will probably do the next one in the Golf, hopefully will be retired by then.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Kari drives a SATURN??

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:48 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts
> are for POS
> >
> >
> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
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> my garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
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[MBZ] I smoked so much meth that I thought ebay was BAT

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yup. Even my gf’s Saturn has a timing chain. 

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts are 
> for POS
> 
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
>> I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my 
>> garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Okie Dokie!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
Thanks.



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wrote:

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and send what 
you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one that looks 
new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 
stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck. 
Thanks.


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and 
> send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one 
> that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and 
> functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have 
> never junked a 123.  They keep running!
> 
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:
>> Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have 
>> my address?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I like timing chains, especially dual row (duplex) ones.   Timing belts 
are for POS



Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:08 PM:
I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in 
my garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.

Rick





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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look 
and send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look 
"used" and one that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or 
pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123 
stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!


Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?



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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

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> On December 3, 2018 at 7:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  I read a study that suggested the #1 car in the homosexual set was the 
> Toyota Camry. 

They do like their Toyodas, don't they?
The one next door drives a Xbox and a Taco. No, scratch that, when the 
transmission blew in the Tacoma last year (which didn't have that many miles on 
it), he said he didn't fit in the new Tacos and bought a full size Toy Pickup. 
He was not happy, because he was getting ready to dump the Scion which had over 
200k on it, and that got put off until he pays off the new truck, he doesn't 
want two payments at once. He just barely fits in the Xb after having the 
drivers seat relocated, it looks like a clown car with just one person sitting 
in it. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I just had the timing belt replaced in the Golf -- found out a friend has the 
tools, but too late for getting it done before my big trip to SC for 
Thanksgiving.  Pretty expensive, but well worth not trashing the engine on a 
trip.

Now I'm waiting to replace a rear wheel bearing until I can find a replacement 
axle nut, everyone local sells the bearing and hub, but not the one time use 
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Oops old man spot

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
> Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
> Mitch. 
>> On December 3, 2018 at 8:20 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 1992 Mercedes 300D
>> 
>> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-300d/6763196672.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Bearing failure or maintenance failure?
Most timing belt issues are maintenance failures, but I remember a friend of 
mine complaining that her 87 Escort broke its belt at 35k miles and less than a 
year of almost all freeway driving. Yes you're right, that's not normal, but 
the warranty expired 23,000 miles ago so you're stuck. At least the 1.9L 
Escorts weren't interference valve trains. 
Mitch. 

> On December 3, 2018 at 9:08 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my garage. Timing 
> belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh.

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Bob sez:

>Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? 

I am kind of. My ex bought a 2001 Forester, and my kid is fixing it in my 
garage. Timing belt bearing went out. Interference engine. Ugh. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure I have a gas cap.  Don't think I can help with any other items
> 
> 
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:38 AM:
>> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
>> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>> 
>>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight 
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system -
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
>> Mike
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks Greg!  There are lots of good MB part in thingverse.  4 pages of 
em, including the CC cable adjuster, it sez for 116, but I'm sure it 
fits many other models of that era.


Now I need to look for or design the Little plastic bippy that goes in 
the throttle linkage on the 240Ds.  I have access to printers in the 
summer at the Fablab.


The 107 visor clips have been ridiculous or unobtanium for years. 
Someone started making them in the back yard or garage and selling 
online, so they are only $10-15 per pair now.  Still stupid prices for 2 
little prastic bits, but far better than unobtainium.


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 6:18 PM:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

Greg





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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
Mitch. 
> On December 3, 2018 at 8:20 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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> 
> 
> 1992 Mercedes 300D
> 
> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-300d/6763196672.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

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Or tr a Bud Light sometime.  Pony pee.

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> The wudbiser is commonly know as horse pee.   The horses pee in every
> bottle.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 5:21 PM:
> > "One of the most enjoyable things I do every day is piss in a bottle...
> it
> > breaks up the boredom of working  Budweiser brewery shift work."
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

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Nice!
My son in law is going to print one tomorrow.  I let you know how it turns out  

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
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> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 2:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -
> 
> Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.
> 
>> 
>> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system -
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] W126 300SD on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nice color but still sold for stupid money.
.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300sd-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-12-03
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2018 at 8:01 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>  The only time the Prius would do better is sitting in traffic...

I thought there were two styles of freeway commuting in SoCal, HOV lanes and 
"sitting in traffic".
A frisky E-mobile like a Spark or a Bolt excels at both. (but I heard something 
about them no longer handing out HOV stickers to E-mobile owners, is that true?)
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That warranty is probably pro-rated.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:20 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 1992 Mercedes 300D
>
> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-300d/6763196672.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OK, that was clever.  I had to pause for a few seconds but that was time
well spent.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:22 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> "One of the most enjoyable things I do every day is piss in a bottle... it
> breaks up the boredom of working  Budweiser brewery shift work."
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not so funny when you think about our declining life spans due to
> suicides
> > and drug overdoses, both interrelated.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > norkerlina y'all
> > >
> > >
> > > Busted Locals
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/bustedlocals/?__tn__=kC-R=ARBFsU_j8RQB5dM-xySStzUjyUJZvZyTVBo9tG0L79_jRbVvgrQZjL3LgXWP4NYLuBamDbpCsM5AcV4g_ref=ARSKbD4_BXE-a3I-1YK-XL9l4HLx1jK7BwMhHSYO_SlnIDyfJivO0dTHLvyo1UrYbu4=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD30SceFamSwH9bU9JznXJtFEf7dErX3rIhWkjgNTskO_zqQvB-UOmWmzHmL3sLt4ZbBr9vyHkfDKpSOMAzZNC7vTw9ASCMqS-jFT6K4N3xthrtnjzgdZNHDCphzXlWVrbeL-JJXYhwyEsyGd83_SvLPq4EEuu1JDQzPYuYhFuWr45T-4n6ux_Z-KgmnXeSE4TxIg5x_FBMe_osYMfNOznR30IqIxA0SBP6u5jqssYbL_B4uAc0Iy3d50GUbihzYsKIrYclJMayAg14h70Oug3W8m4bOXnekuegel0It8oqUKnjJmi0_UgCwPqnGDKZU6ZqU2EhZgqh05zsVVt_WBC0fQ
> > > >
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> > > Yesterday at 11:11 AM
> > > <
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GASTONIA, North Carolina -
> > >
> > > Gaston County resident, Jasper Smith, 62, was arrested yesterday on
> > > felony charges of manufacturing and distributing homemade “energy
> > > drinks” containing the powerful stimulate methamphetamine. The Gaston
> > > County drug task force raided Smith’s tree fort (Smith lives in 200 sq.
> > > ft. tree fort on his brother’s property near Chapel Grove) to find
> > > Jasper wearing only an adult diaper and reading a Mexican pornographic
> > > magazine.
> > >
> > > Police seized approximately 25 2 liter bottles of Smith’s “energy
> drink”
> > > found in a cinder block pump house on the South Gastonia property. The
> > > bottles tested positive for methamphetamine.
> > >
> > > Smith came under suspicion when he sold four bottles to several Hunter
> > > Huss High School girls who hours later were checked into Gaston
> Memorial
> > > Hospital with internal bleeding. The girls parents phoned Gaston County
> > > authorities.
> > >
> > > A police report contained several statements from Smith:
> > >
> > > “They’re just energy drinks like RedBull or Monster. It’s not meth in
> > > there. It’s just lemonade, caffeine, sugar and a couple drops of
> > > gasoline. I swear to God I didn’t put meth in there.”
> > >
> > > Customers would come to Smith’s Gastonia home to buy the energy drinks
> > > for $20 per bottle. One customer spoke on the condition of anonymity:
> > >
> > > “I’m shocked Jasper put crank in his energy drinks. I didn’t know
> > > nothing about that. I just knew they worked good to keep me awake for a
> > > couple days. Stuff way better than Monster [energy drink].”
> > >
> > > Hours after Smith’s first statement, he confessed:
> > >
> > > “Okay, I put just a little meth in there to get them addicted and keep
> > > customers coming back. I know they’ll all testify against me so let me
> > > make something else clear: I pissed in every bottle.”
> > >
> > > Smith also faces child endangerment charges in Gaston County for
> > > ‘poisoning’ the girls who drank his homemade concoction.
> > >
> > > Image may contain: 1 person, smiling, drink
> > > <
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The wudbiser is commonly know as horse pee.   The horses pee in every 
bottle.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 5:21 PM:

"One of the most enjoyable things I do every day is piss in a bottle... it
breaks up the boredom of working  Budweiser brewery shift work."





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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No, it was an "accidental discharge"...of not necessarily a bullet.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> > On December 3, 2018 at 5:26 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have noticed it seems many police officers fall way short of proper
> use and safety involving firearms.
>
> It's just like hunters. The ones who merely go through a hunter safety
> course because it's required, or the cops who only know about guns what was
> force fed to them at the range, aren't all that competent with firearms.
> The cops who know how to properly handle firearms already knew before they
> became cops.
>
> A woman I went to high school with, her teenage son killed her husband.
> They'd been hunting and the kid was unloading his gun. How in the world do
> you point a gun at your dad's chest, especially when manipulating that
> gun's controls? If I had pointed a toy gun at my dad at half that kid's
> age, I would have lost access to it for at least a month.
>
> If you're raised like I was, you just don't allow the dangerous end of a
> firearm to sweep over other people unless you think they might need to be
> dead. That's the 'gun culture' that some people in this country are
> determined to get rid of.
>
> Some LEOs (a clear majority in major cities), are as safe with a gun in
> public as I'd be if you gave me a two day familiarization course with
> elephants and asked me to drive one through town. These are guys who didn't
> even have BB guns when they were kids, and it's hard to get them to the
> point where doing it right is an ingrained response.
>
> That cop from Wyoming in the Youtube video I linked, he seemed to have the
> basics down, I can't fault the way he handled his sidearm in front of the
> news camera, but he bought a dangerously stupid piece of equipment that
> didn't protect the trigger, and then he grabbed his gun through the fabric
> of his pants and pulled up on the trigger. Boom, negligent discharge,
> here's your citation for disorderly conduct and public endangerment. Your
> Lee Paige Achievement Certificate will come in the mail later. (or, since
> he wasn't using a proper holster, should we give him a Plaxico Burress
> Award?)
>
> The dancing FBI agent who was mentioned in passing in that video, his
> holster didn't have sufficient retention to hold the gun securely while
> doing a backflip. That's a problem, but the real problem was the moron who,
> upon seeing that his holster dumped his gun on the floor, grabbed it and
> pulled the trigger. He didn't make the common mistake of grabbing a dropped
> gun in midair, but the end result was the same. I think he was rushing to
> get it out of sight before anybody noticed he dropped it.
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1992 Mercedes 300D

https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-300d/6763196672.html


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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Maybe recently but for a couple decades if you wanted a boring toaster of a 
car you bought a Camry or for something slightly "sporty" an Accord.
The Prius is more for those who want a smug toaster...
A guy I work with has a Prius and drives from San Diego to LA for work, thats 
like 100 miles each way. He groans when I point out a Jetta TDI would get 
better mileage since most of that distance he's cruising on the highway. The 
only time the Prius would do better is sitting in traffic...
-Curt

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 But Prius is more gay than Camry.

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read a study that suggested the #1 car in the homosexual set was the Toyota 
> Camry. I wonder if thats offset by men owning those, sure seems like a lot of 
> lesbians drive a Subaru wagon. We're friends with a lesbian couple that has 
> one and a Volvo wagon, I tease them for being "driving stereotypes".
> -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, December 3, 2018, 7:46:59 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> I was waiting for that….
> 
> If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up 
> on how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they 
> discovered their products were popular with them (after their marketing 
> people couldn’t get the products off the ground with any other segment of the 
> market, I would add.)
> 
> It’s pretty interesting.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
>> 
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
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  wrote:
 
 Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
 this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.  Bob R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

But Prius is more gay than Camry.

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read a study that suggested the #1 car in the homosexual set was the Toyota 
> Camry. I wonder if thats offset by men owning those, sure seems like a lot of 
> lesbians drive a Subaru wagon. We're friends with a lesbian couple that has 
> one and a Volvo wagon, I tease them for being "driving stereotypes".
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, December 3, 2018, 7:46:59 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I was waiting for that….
> 
> If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up 
> on how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they 
> discovered their products were popular with them (after their marketing 
> people couldn’t get the products off the ground with any other segment of the 
> market, I would add.)
> 
> It’s pretty interesting.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
 this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.  Bob R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They must be a hot item out there. Maybe I should sell you your old cars back.

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I had had two w124s and a w123 sold while I literally on my way to see them. 
> Then there was a week or 10 day dry spell and needed wheels. My thought on 
> this 2004 Outback is I’ll drive it some, get it reasonably sorted while 
> searching for a w123 or a w124. Then I’ll have the Subi sitting in the garage 
> as an incentive for boy child to try to get his shit together. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
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>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
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>> 
>> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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  wrote:
 
 Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
 this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Probably you can put 10,000 miles on the Subaru and sell it for nearly what 
you paid for it too. The big depreciation is done, it probably won't decline 
much now.I was considering one as a replacement for my Jetta but I can't 
stomach the mileage hit. They're mostly rated <30mpg, I can't handle the idea 
of going from 55mpg to 30...

-Curt

On Monday, December 3, 2018, 7:51:07 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I had had two w124s and a w123 sold while I literally on my way to see them. 
Then there was a week or 10 day dry spell and needed wheels. My thought on this 
2004 Outback is I’ll drive it some, get it reasonably sorted while searching 
for a w123 or a w124. Then I’ll have the Subi sitting in the garage as an 
incentive for boy child to try to get his shit together. 

Bob R

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> 
> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
>>> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.  Bob R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

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https://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498504383/how-a-revolutionary-ad-campaign-helped-to-turn-around-subaru

-D



> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was waiting for that….
> 
> If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up 
> on how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they 
> discovered their products were popular with them (after their marketing 
> people couldn’t get the products off the ground with any other segment of the 
> market, I would add.)
> 
> It’s pretty interesting.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I suppose that makes sense. I love girls. 

Bob R

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read a study that suggested the #1 car in the homosexual set was the Toyota 
> Camry. I wonder if thats offset by men owning those, sure seems like a lot of 
> lesbians drive a Subaru wagon. We're friends with a lesbian couple that has 
> one and a Volvo wagon, I tease them for being "driving stereotypes".
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, December 3, 2018, 7:46:59 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I was waiting for that….
> 
> If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up 
> on how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they 
> discovered their products were popular with them (after their marketing 
> people couldn’t get the products off the ground with any other segment of the 
> market, I would add.)
> 
> It’s pretty interesting.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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  wrote:
 
 Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
 this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.  Bob R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I had had two w124s and a w123 sold while I literally on my way to see them. 
Then there was a week or 10 day dry spell and needed wheels. My thought on this 
2004 Outback is I’ll drive it some, get it reasonably sorted while searching 
for a w123 or a w124. Then I’ll have the Subi sitting in the garage as an 
incentive for boy child to try to get his shit together. 

Bob R

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> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
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>> You bought and outback? Yuk
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>>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
>>> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I read a study that suggested the #1 car in the homosexual set was the Toyota 
Camry. I wonder if thats offset by men owning those, sure seems like a lot of 
lesbians drive a Subaru wagon. We're friends with a lesbian couple that has one 
and a Volvo wagon, I tease them for being "driving stereotypes".
-Curt

On Monday, December 3, 2018, 7:46:59 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was waiting for that….

If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up on 
how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they discovered 
their products were popular with them (after their marketing people couldn’t 
get the products off the ground with any other segment of the market, I would 
add.)

It’s pretty interesting.

-D


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>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
>>> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.  Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was waiting for that….

If anyone wants to read a really good story on targeted marketing, study up on 
how Subaru purposefully targeted the lesbian community after they discovered 
their products were popular with them (after their marketing people couldn’t 
get the products off the ground with any other segment of the market, I would 
add.)

It’s pretty interesting.

-D


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> Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 
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>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
>>> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yup, the ultimate rug rumper mobile. 

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> You bought and outback? Yuk
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>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup - I miss-read Don't as Don …

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Look closer.  I quoted Kleb.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wrong Okie - that was Kleb doing the shaming.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey!  Don’t be brand shaming.  This is what Bob got after trying hard to
> >> find a nice W124/W123 without a lot of luck.  He made the effort.
> >>
> >> Consider it an Asian 240D.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You bought and outback? Yuk
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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>  On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983
> >> and this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
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> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Maybe he is and maybe he isn't but boy he said some stupid stuff.

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our 
air and water that are doing it."

"Bank failures are caused by depositors who don't deposit enough money to cover 
losses due to mismanagement."
and my personal favorite: "My friends, no matter how rough the road may be, we 
can and we will, never, never surrender to what is right."

When Biden was proposed as VP and people were all talking about the dumb things 
he's said I went back and checked on Dan. Uncle Joe has said some pretty stupid 
stuff: "Folks, I can tell you I've known eight presidents, three of them 
intimately." but he really can't hold a candle to Quayle.
-Curt


On Monday, December 3, 2018, 4:59:49 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
> On December 3, 2018 at 4:38 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We could form our own subset - The Dieselers' President's Club.
> 
> And despite Dan Quayle's illusions, JFK was and would always be a D.

Funny how the D's always like to pretend Danforth was an idiot, as if repeating 
a lie for 30 years will eventually make it true. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 2:22 PM
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Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.

>
>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
>
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system -
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"One of the most enjoyable things I do every day is piss in a bottle... it
breaks up the boredom of working  Budweiser brewery shift work."


On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Not so funny when you think about our declining life spans due to suicides
> and drug overdoses, both interrelated.
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > norkerlina y'all
> >
> >
> > Busted Locals
> > <
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/bustedlocals/?__tn__=kC-R=ARBFsU_j8RQB5dM-xySStzUjyUJZvZyTVBo9tG0L79_jRbVvgrQZjL3LgXWP4NYLuBamDbpCsM5AcV4g_ref=ARSKbD4_BXE-a3I-1YK-XL9l4HLx1jK7BwMhHSYO_SlnIDyfJivO0dTHLvyo1UrYbu4=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD30SceFamSwH9bU9JznXJtFEf7dErX3rIhWkjgNTskO_zqQvB-UOmWmzHmL3sLt4ZbBr9vyHkfDKpSOMAzZNC7vTw9ASCMqS-jFT6K4N3xthrtnjzgdZNHDCphzXlWVrbeL-JJXYhwyEsyGd83_SvLPq4EEuu1JDQzPYuYhFuWr45T-4n6ux_Z-KgmnXeSE4TxIg5x_FBMe_osYMfNOznR30IqIxA0SBP6u5jqssYbL_B4uAc0Iy3d50GUbihzYsKIrYclJMayAg14h70Oug3W8m4bOXnekuegel0It8oqUKnjJmi0_UgCwPqnGDKZU6ZqU2EhZgqh05zsVVt_WBC0fQ
> > >
> >
> > Yesterday at 11:11 AM
> > <
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/bustedlocals/photos/a.106829316038301/2039007122820501/?type=3&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD30SceFamSwH9bU9JznXJtFEf7dErX3rIhWkjgNTskO_zqQvB-UOmWmzHmL3sLt4ZbBr9vyHkfDKpSOMAzZNC7vTw9ASCMqS-jFT6K4N3xthrtnjzgdZNHDCphzXlWVrbeL-JJXYhwyEsyGd83_SvLPq4EEuu1JDQzPYuYhFuWr45T-4n6ux_Z-KgmnXeSE4TxIg5x_FBMe_osYMfNOznR30IqIxA0SBP6u5jqssYbL_B4uAc0Iy3d50GUbihzYsKIrYclJMayAg14h70Oug3W8m4bOXnekuegel0It8oqUKnjJmi0_UgCwPqnGDKZU6ZqU2EhZgqh05zsVVt_WBC0fQ&__tn__=-R
> >·
> >
> >
> >
> > GASTONIA, North Carolina -
> >
> > Gaston County resident, Jasper Smith, 62, was arrested yesterday on
> > felony charges of manufacturing and distributing homemade “energy
> > drinks” containing the powerful stimulate methamphetamine. The Gaston
> > County drug task force raided Smith’s tree fort (Smith lives in 200 sq.
> > ft. tree fort on his brother’s property near Chapel Grove) to find
> > Jasper wearing only an adult diaper and reading a Mexican pornographic
> > magazine.
> >
> > Police seized approximately 25 2 liter bottles of Smith’s “energy drink”
> > found in a cinder block pump house on the South Gastonia property. The
> > bottles tested positive for methamphetamine.
> >
> > Smith came under suspicion when he sold four bottles to several Hunter
> > Huss High School girls who hours later were checked into Gaston Memorial
> > Hospital with internal bleeding. The girls parents phoned Gaston County
> > authorities.
> >
> > A police report contained several statements from Smith:
> >
> > “They’re just energy drinks like RedBull or Monster. It’s not meth in
> > there. It’s just lemonade, caffeine, sugar and a couple drops of
> > gasoline. I swear to God I didn’t put meth in there.”
> >
> > Customers would come to Smith’s Gastonia home to buy the energy drinks
> > for $20 per bottle. One customer spoke on the condition of anonymity:
> >
> > “I’m shocked Jasper put crank in his energy drinks. I didn’t know
> > nothing about that. I just knew they worked good to keep me awake for a
> > couple days. Stuff way better than Monster [energy drink].”
> >
> > Hours after Smith’s first statement, he confessed:
> >
> > “Okay, I put just a little meth in there to get them addicted and keep
> > customers coming back. I know they’ll all testify against me so let me
> > make something else clear: I pissed in every bottle.”
> >
> > Smith also faces child endangerment charges in Gaston County for
> > ‘poisoning’ the girls who drank his homemade concoction.
> >
> > Image may contain: 1 person, smiling, drink
> > <
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/bustedlocals/photos/a.106829316038301/2039007122820501/?type=3=ARBscOTMe7Vt-w7rumU3PinhGALPG9X3A3ioivGEJ6VTB-oEwBeqBT8SLYXb9xsYPjUJ4tC3e9BqS5QB&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD30SceFamSwH9bU9JznXJtFEf7dErX3rIhWkjgNTskO_zqQvB-UOmWmzHmL3sLt4ZbBr9vyHkfDKpSOMAzZNC7vTw9ASCMqS-jFT6K4N3xthrtnjzgdZNHDCphzXlWVrbeL-JJXYhwyEsyGd83_SvLPq4EEuu1JDQzPYuYhFuWr45T-4n6ux_Z-KgmnXeSE4TxIg5x_FBMe_osYMfNOznR30IqIxA0SBP6u5jqssYbL_B4uAc0Iy3d50GUbihzYsKIrYclJMayAg14h70Oug3W8m4bOXnekuegel0It8oqUKnjJmi0_UgCwPqnGDKZU6ZqU2EhZgqh05zsVVt_WBC0fQ&__tn__=EEHH-R
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

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> On December 3, 2018 at 5:26 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have noticed it seems many police officers fall way short of proper use and 
> safety involving firearms.

It's just like hunters. The ones who merely go through a hunter safety course 
because it's required, or the cops who only know about guns what was force fed 
to them at the range, aren't all that competent with firearms. The cops who 
know how to properly handle firearms already knew before they became cops. 

A woman I went to high school with, her teenage son killed her husband. They'd 
been hunting and the kid was unloading his gun. How in the world do you point a 
gun at your dad's chest, especially when manipulating that gun's controls? If I 
had pointed a toy gun at my dad at half that kid's age, I would have lost 
access to it for at least a month. 

If you're raised like I was, you just don't allow the dangerous end of a 
firearm to sweep over other people unless you think they might need to be dead. 
That's the 'gun culture' that some people in this country are determined to get 
rid of. 

Some LEOs (a clear majority in major cities), are as safe with a gun in public 
as I'd be if you gave me a two day familiarization course with elephants and 
asked me to drive one through town. These are guys who didn't even have BB guns 
when they were kids, and it's hard to get them to the point where doing it 
right is an ingrained response. 

That cop from Wyoming in the Youtube video I linked, he seemed to have the 
basics down, I can't fault the way he handled his sidearm in front of the news 
camera, but he bought a dangerously stupid piece of equipment that didn't 
protect the trigger, and then he grabbed his gun through the fabric of his 
pants and pulled up on the trigger. Boom, negligent discharge, here's your 
citation for disorderly conduct and public endangerment. Your Lee Paige 
Achievement Certificate will come in the mail later. (or, since he wasn't using 
a proper holster, should we give him a Plaxico Burress Award?)

The dancing FBI agent who was mentioned in passing in that video, his holster 
didn't have sufficient retention to hold the gun securely while doing a 
backflip. That's a problem, but the real problem was the moron who, upon seeing 
that his holster dumped his gun on the floor, grabbed it and pulled the 
trigger. He didn't make the common mistake of grabbing a dropped gun in midair, 
but the end result was the same. I think he was rushing to get it out of sight 
before anybody noticed he dropped it. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Look closer.  I quoted Kleb.

-D


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
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> Wrong Okie - that was Kleb doing the shaming.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> Hey!  Don’t be brand shaming.  This is what Bob got after trying hard to
>> find a nice W124/W123 without a lot of luck.  He made the effort.
>> 
>> Consider it an Asian 240D.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bought and outback? Yuk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983
>> and this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> And despite Dan Quayle's illusions, JFK was and would always be a D.

On New Year's Eve 1959, two days before he announced his candidacy for the 
presidency, Kennedy made an admission to his neighbor, journalist Charles 
Bartlett, that was so startling Bartlett wrote it down the following morning: 
"Jack says if the Democrats don't nominate him, he's going to vote for Nixon."

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wrong Okie - that was Kleb doing the shaming.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Hey!  Don’t be brand shaming.  This is what Bob got after trying hard to
> find a nice W124/W123 without a lot of luck.  He made the effort.
>
> Consider it an Asian 240D.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You bought and outback? Yuk
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983
> and this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hey!  Don’t be brand shaming.  This is what Bob got after trying hard to find a 
nice W124/W123 without a lot of luck.  He made the effort.

Consider it an Asian 240D.

-D


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> 
> You bought and outback? Yuk
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and 
>> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, I own a 2017 Subaru Legacy, but have done nothing except air the
tires and check the oil on it so far. I did work for a Subaru dealer in
1971 or '72 as a factory trained mechanic, but haven't touched one since.

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> Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and
> this 2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have noticed it seems many police officers fall way short of proper use and 
safety involving firearms.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bonehead.  Add to the fact that he had been drinking. Major cardinal rule 
> breach in my book.  It was correct for them to cite him, I believe.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Not the best way to watch baseball. 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWukUgjynw
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 3:59 PM:


Funny how the D's always like to pretend Danforth was an idiot, as if repeating 
a lie for 30 years will eventually make it true.

Mitch.

Funny how they claim to be Ds, but hate the Ds from the founding up to 
at least JFK.  Tehy claim to love JFK, But would throw anyone who 
believe in the constitution, tax cuts, a strong military, standing up to 
the ruskies, fighting communism, and modest sized government out of the 
party SO fast!


JFK:
constitution, tax cuts, a strong military, standing up to the ruskies, 
fighting communism, and modest sized government.   Sounds a lot like the 
current president, doesn't it?  Oh, and JFK didn't allow wetbacks to stay.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.

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> Try Ecklers performance4benz. I don't recall that their visor clips were
> that spendy.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Dec 3, 2018 12:38 PM, "Mike Esh via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order
> later today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>
>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
>
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system -
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You bought and outback? Yuk

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bonehead.  Add to the fact that he had been drinking. Major cardinal rule 
breach in my book.  It was correct for them to cite him, I believe.

-D


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> 
> Not the best way to watch baseball. 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWukUgjynw
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

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Not the best way to watch baseball. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWukUgjynw

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[MBZ] Subaru

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Is there anyone among us aSubaru guy? I haven’t owned one since 1983 and this 
2004 Outback is  I bought is confounding me.   Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Danforth?  Dan QUAYLE, not Sen. Danforth.

Also - neither I nor anyone else wastes time thinking about Quayle.  That's
your fantasy

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>
> > On December 3, 2018 at 4:38 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
> > We could form our own subset - The Dieselers' President's Club.
> >
> > And despite Dan Quayle's illusions, JFK was and would always be a D.
>
> Funny how the D's always like to pretend Danforth was an idiot, as if
> repeating a lie for 30 years will eventually make it true.
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

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> On December 3, 2018 at 4:38 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We could form our own subset - The Dieselers' President's Club.
> 
> And despite Dan Quayle's illusions, JFK was and would always be a D.

Funny how the D's always like to pretend Danforth was an idiot, as if repeating 
a lie for 30 years will eventually make it true. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not so funny when you think about our declining life spans due to suicides
and drug overdoses, both interrelated.

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> norkerlina y'all
>
>
> Busted Locals
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> >
>
> Yesterday at 11:11 AM
> <
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>
>
>
> GASTONIA, North Carolina -
>
> Gaston County resident, Jasper Smith, 62, was arrested yesterday on
> felony charges of manufacturing and distributing homemade “energy
> drinks” containing the powerful stimulate methamphetamine. The Gaston
> County drug task force raided Smith’s tree fort (Smith lives in 200 sq.
> ft. tree fort on his brother’s property near Chapel Grove) to find
> Jasper wearing only an adult diaper and reading a Mexican pornographic
> magazine.
>
> Police seized approximately 25 2 liter bottles of Smith’s “energy drink”
> found in a cinder block pump house on the South Gastonia property. The
> bottles tested positive for methamphetamine.
>
> Smith came under suspicion when he sold four bottles to several Hunter
> Huss High School girls who hours later were checked into Gaston Memorial
> Hospital with internal bleeding. The girls parents phoned Gaston County
> authorities.
>
> A police report contained several statements from Smith:
>
> “They’re just energy drinks like RedBull or Monster. It’s not meth in
> there. It’s just lemonade, caffeine, sugar and a couple drops of
> gasoline. I swear to God I didn’t put meth in there.”
>
> Customers would come to Smith’s Gastonia home to buy the energy drinks
> for $20 per bottle. One customer spoke on the condition of anonymity:
>
> “I’m shocked Jasper put crank in his energy drinks. I didn’t know
> nothing about that. I just knew they worked good to keep me awake for a
> couple days. Stuff way better than Monster [energy drink].”
>
> Hours after Smith’s first statement, he confessed:
>
> “Okay, I put just a little meth in there to get them addicted and keep
> customers coming back. I know they’ll all testify against me so let me
> make something else clear: I pissed in every bottle.”
>
> Smith also faces child endangerment charges in Gaston County for
> ‘poisoning’ the girls who drank his homemade concoction.
>
> Image may contain: 1 person, smiling, drink
> <
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We could form our own subset - The Dieselers' President's Club.

And despite Dan Quayle's illusions, JFK was and would always be a D.

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> Nixon always had what appeared to be a permanent 5 o’clock shadow.  Got a
> picture around here of him shaking my Dad’s hand at some event, I don’t
> think it was at the same breakfast.  Dad was heavily involved in the local
> party workings as a precinct committeeman among other things.  His former
> business partner ended up becoming Lt. Governor of Indiana and later
> president of Lilly Endowment (+$10B in assets).  Now one of my older
> brother’s classmates, Clay Robbins, is chairman of Lilly Endowment.  Big
> brother did the “Young Republicans” crap for a few years to further his
> career.  Not my sort of thing, I would have just pissed off all of the old
> rich white ladies who were involved with it for lack of anything better to
> do.
>
> -D
>
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> >
> > That was Rockerfeller, except when he didn’t
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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> >> Don’t recall a lot about it other than Nixon always looked like he just
> rolled out of bed…
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK, here you go:

In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision Motorcars, 
now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale parts guy, to 
which I said:

“I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like to spend 
that money here rather than spread it around between sellers on the Internets.  
What can you do for me?”

He immediately took my personal information and set up an account with a 
wholesale discount (approximately 25% off list) that I receive on all the parts 
I buy plus any swag the dealer sells in their little “boutique”.  22 years 
later and that parts guy retired earlier this year.  His “replacement” is a 
woman who has worked the counter there for longer.  There are two other parts 
people who have been there as long that know who I am as well.  They treat me 
very well, as I respect their efforts and time and make sure the corporate 
brass get a letter every couple of years expounding on the excellent job they 
all do for me.

The parts people have given me access to a number I can text my parts lists and 
orders to. This is nice, as it eliminates all the phone chatter and increases 
accuracy.  If I have needs and don’t know numbers, I give them the last 8 of 
the VIN and a description and I’ll have a response texted back to me usually 
within an hour.

I also make sure all of my parts orders are “stock orders”, meaning that they 
come in 2-4 business days after ordering.  The dealers get a spiff from 
Mercedes for stock orders that saves them money on shipping and applies to 
their monthly quota of purchased parts.  This is an important metric for the 
dealers.  When I need something “VOR” (next day) they gladly do this for me at 
no extra charge, as they’re way ahead of the game with the stock orders I place.

That’s it.

Oh, yeah - in the next week or two I’ll pop in at lunch time with 2-3 large 
pizzas for the people on the parts counter.  Inside the lid of each will be a 
“thank you” message from me.

-D




> On Dec 3, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan P says:
> 
>> Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville IL.
> 
> IIRC, you have a special relationship with your local dealership parts 
> department. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to develop that 
> relationship? I have probably asked before, but now seems like a good time to 
> ask again.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan P says:

>Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville IL.

IIRC, you have a special relationship with your local dealership parts 
department. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to develop that 
relationship? I have probably asked before, but now seems like a good time to 
ask again.


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[MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

norkerlina y'all


   Busted Locals
   


Yesterday at 11:11 AM 
· 



GASTONIA, North Carolina -

Gaston County resident, Jasper Smith, 62, was arrested yesterday on 
felony charges of manufacturing and distributing homemade “energy 
drinks” containing the powerful stimulate methamphetamine. The Gaston 
County drug task force raided Smith’s tree fort (Smith lives in 200 sq. 
ft. tree fort on his brother’s property near Chapel Grove) to find 
Jasper wearing only an adult diaper and reading a Mexican pornographic 
magazine.


Police seized approximately 25 2 liter bottles of Smith’s “energy drink” 
found in a cinder block pump house on the South Gastonia property. The 
bottles tested positive for methamphetamine.


Smith came under suspicion when he sold four bottles to several Hunter 
Huss High School girls who hours later were checked into Gaston Memorial 
Hospital with internal bleeding. The girls parents phoned Gaston County 
authorities.


A police report contained several statements from Smith:

“They’re just energy drinks like RedBull or Monster. It’s not meth in 
there. It’s just lemonade, caffeine, sugar and a couple drops of 
gasoline. I swear to God I didn’t put meth in there.”


Customers would come to Smith’s Gastonia home to buy the energy drinks 
for $20 per bottle. One customer spoke on the condition of anonymity:


“I’m shocked Jasper put crank in his energy drinks. I didn’t know 
nothing about that. I just knew they worked good to keep me awake for a 
couple days. Stuff way better than Monster [energy drink].”


Hours after Smith’s first statement, he confessed:

“Okay, I put just a little meth in there to get them addicted and keep 
customers coming back. I know they’ll all testify against me so let me 
make something else clear: I pissed in every bottle.”


Smith also faces child endangerment charges in Gaston County for 
‘poisoning’ the girls who drank his homemade concoction.


Image may contain: 1 person, smiling, drink


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'm pretty sure I have a gas cap.  Don't think I can help with any other 
items



Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:38 AM:

Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
today for my newly acquired 1983 240D

  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.

Also looking for:
Gas/oil filler cap.
Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a Mann.  
Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. Thoughts?
Clear fuel filter(s)
Canister fuel filter(s)

Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight and 
true. Not stopping as well as it should.
Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
other calipers.
Working on vacuum system -
Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
Shifting is erratic as well.
Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted out.
I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
Mike

  








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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Try Ecklers performance4benz. I don't recall that their visor clips were
that spendy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Dec 3, 2018 12:38 PM, "Mike Esh via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order
later today for my newly acquired 1983 240D

 Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.

Also looking for:
Gas/oil filler cap.
Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
Thoughts?
Clear fuel filter(s)
Canister fuel filter(s)

Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
other calipers.
Working on vacuum system -
Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
Shifting is erratic as well.
Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
out.
I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
Mike









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Re: [MBZ] OT: rechargeable stick vacuum cleaner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We have Oreck upright and canister.  Both are very nice and relatively
trouble free.  I might try a Dyson so long as it fits under the counter.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:25 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Thats a weak argument, the cord is less of a thing than lugging a weighty
> vacuum cleaner around. If you put lots of ports you can have quite a short
> hose. We have one port but our house is small.I also don't need to think
> about finding an outlet, I don't have to manage the cord, the bin gets
> emptied once a year if I think of it or 2 years if I don't. Any dust from
> the bin is easily contained, its got a great big filter since I don't need
> to lug it around. I don't trip over it, its not taking up a closet and its
> got wy more suction...
> If you've never used one you need to try before you condemn it.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 8:54:56 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Central vacs are nice but you still have to lug the long bulky hose
> around.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Beg to differ. For $200 you can have a Eufy that will not only pick up
> all
> > the stuff but it will do it at a scheduled time every day while you are
> > elsewhere. What the robot lacks in power it will more than make up for in
> > persistence. The area under it's time vs suction curve is huge because it
> > makes the time factor - it vacuums more than you ever will.
> >
> > On Dec 2, 2018 5:01 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Had it in my boyhood home in the 60s and 70s and it was horrible, as it
> was
> > really inefficient. The Hoover Constellation was used instead.  I suspect
> > it was either a crappy system or was poorly designed.
> >
> > Put it in the house we built in Wisconsin and it was wonderful.
> Especially
> > nice for a two story house.  The system would suck paint off the walls if
> > you let it.
> >
> > I highly recommend.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Agree 100% once you've had central vac you'll never consider anything
> > else.Curt
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:  Yes:
> >>
> >> Whole house central vacuum. Huge 5 hp motor mounted in garage wall...
> >> tubing runs through the house.. you only plug in the hose... Enough
> power
> >> to suck DC empty.
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In my W123 wagon (1983) there is a plastic box in the engine bay which has
some screwed-tight wire connectors that can get loose.  If so, the car will
not crank.  Sorry I don't have the correct term for this or whether it even
applies to you but if it does, it is a cheap and easy fix.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:41 AM Mike Esh via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I’ve never tried it, but would and an inner tube work in the same manner?
> Place under car, blow up with portable air compressor, place jack stands,
> get the work done, remove.
> Or just use a floor jack.
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes. Weirdly I have a starter in the garage that looks pretty new, so
> now I
> > just have to figure out now to not get run over on the street where it is
> > parked. And also how to get under the car; it is pretty low and has belly
> > pans. I always loved those inflatable bag things they used to use in the
> > sand to lift cars out with exhaust pressure; would make for an easy way
> to
> > put one side of the car on stands.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 7:48 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >
> >> Time for a new starter, methinks...
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:30 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Shorting the pins at the terminal block does nothing. I jumped the car
> >>> also, and the behavior did not change. I did note that shifting the car
> >>> into and out of park and neutral while the switch is in the start
> >> position
> >>> caused dimming of all the dash lights, implying a short in the system
> and
> >>> also implying that the neutral safety switch is operating correctly.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 4:57 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>
>  Sounds legit to me.  If memory serves, high-draw items like starters
> >> tend
>  to have fusible links rather than fuses.   It sounds as though you're
>  getting power to the starter.  I'm gonna go along with the bad
> >>> starter/bad
>  connection theory.   Have you tried to put 12VDC to the starter itself
> >>> yet?
> 
>  -MMM-
> 
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>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yes I checked them and wiggled them all.
> >
> > But here's the thing: there is no fuse labeled "starter". I am not
> >>> sure,
> > given that all dash lights are on when key is turned on, that there
> >> is
>  any
> > fuse failure that could produce this symptom. The key energizes a
> >> relay
> > somewhere when turned to start position. If the switch has any power
> >> at
> > all, I assume the fuse is good, whatever it is called.
> >
> > Is this correct?
> >
> > K
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018, 8:58 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
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> >> Have you CHECKED all the FUSES?
> >>
> >> -M. Mitchell Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: rechargeable stick vacuum cleaner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks.  Ideally, it will be no more than 43" tall so I can fit it under my
high kitchen counter.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Shark Duo Clean"
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 12/3/18 7:11 AM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> > I got one at Costco about a year ago. I’ll have to look at what brand. I
> think it was about $175 or so. Shark maybe?
> >
> > The power part detaches from the floor part (powered brush on it) then
> you can attach other things to it and carry it around. I like it except you
> can’t put a brush thing on the hose (about 2.5’ long) it has a crevice tool
> molded to it. They had one that  was corded and one that I got is LiOn
> battery powered, same basic model. Small bagless reservoir fairly easy to
> clean. It’s not a substitute for a larger floor model but fine for quick
> cleanups and kitchen wood floor. Reasonably powerful.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 2, 2018, at 6:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Also known as an electric broom. I would love to have an appliance like
> >> this for quick clean-ups, without slogging around with the vacuum
> cleaner.
> >> Anybody have any recommendations?
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: rechargeable stick vacuum cleaner

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On 02/12/2018 5:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Also known as an electric broom. I would love to have an appliance like
this for quick clean-ups, without slogging around with the vacuum cleaner.
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

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Nixon always had what appeared to be a permanent 5 o’clock shadow.  Got a 
picture around here of him shaking my Dad’s hand at some event, I don’t think 
it was at the same breakfast.  Dad was heavily involved in the local party 
workings as a precinct committeeman among other things.  His former business 
partner ended up becoming Lt. Governor of Indiana and later president of Lilly 
Endowment (+$10B in assets).  Now one of my older brother’s classmates, Clay 
Robbins, is chairman of Lilly Endowment.  Big brother did the “Young 
Republicans” crap for a few years to further his career.  Not my sort of thing, 
I would have just pissed off all of the old rich white ladies who were involved 
with it for lack of anything better to do.

-D

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> That was Rockerfeller, except when he didn’t 
> 
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>> 
>> Don’t recall a lot about it other than Nixon always looked like he just 
>> rolled out of bed…
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Re: [MBZ] What Happens If You Fill Up a Car with Anti-Freeze?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not a bad, but I gassed up my 300D with regular GAS once before I caught my
error.  Fortunately I only poured in a couple gallons

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> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The fellow had filled the radiator with gasoline.
>
>
> If you do that on "Speed Racer",  the Alpha Team car blows up and Spritle
> and Chim Chim laugh and laugh.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That was Rockerfeller, except when he didn’t 

--FT
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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don’t recall a lot about it other than Nixon always looked like he just 
> rolled out of bed…

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Meyle used to be pretty good stuff. 
Now it's just another name you find on generic parts. 
Up to you to determine whether Mann is worth $7 more than generic. 
Seems like somebody said Mann only on one of the transmission filters, but I 
don't remember if that was W123 or W124.

Rock Auto has Motorad fuel and oil filler caps for about $2 each. I assume 
they're 'good enough'. 
Gates and Stant for a bit more $$$.

If you're ordering from Rock you can get Mann oil filters for $7 or Champion 
Labs for $4.40.
And Mann prefilters are $20 for a bag of ten. Seems like Rusty used to charge 
me about $1.50 for them 15 years ago. I like to keep a couple of prefilters in 
the glove box of every diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: rechargeable stick vacuum cleaner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Thats a weak argument, the cord is less of a thing than lugging a weighty 
vacuum cleaner around. If you put lots of ports you can have quite a short 
hose. We have one port but our house is small.I also don't need to think about 
finding an outlet, I don't have to manage the cord, the bin gets emptied once a 
year if I think of it or 2 years if I don't. Any dust from the bin is easily 
contained, its got a great big filter since I don't need to lug it around. I 
don't trip over it, its not taking up a closet and its got wy more 
suction...
If you've never used one you need to try before you condemn it.

-Curt

On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 8:54:56 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Central vacs are nice but you still have to lug the long bulky hose around.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Beg to differ. For $200 you can have a Eufy that will not only pick up all
> the stuff but it will do it at a scheduled time every day while you are
> elsewhere. What the robot lacks in power it will more than make up for in
> persistence. The area under it's time vs suction curve is huge because it
> makes the time factor - it vacuums more than you ever will.
> 
> On Dec 2, 2018 5:01 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> Had it in my boyhood home in the 60s and 70s and it was horrible, as it was
> really inefficient. The Hoover Constellation was used instead.  I suspect
> it was either a crappy system or was poorly designed.
> 
> Put it in the house we built in Wisconsin and it was wonderful.  Especially
> nice for a two story house.  The system would suck paint off the walls if
> you let it.
> 
> I highly recommend.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Agree 100% once you've had central vac you'll never consider anything
> else.Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:  Yes:
>> 
>> Whole house central vacuum. Huge 5 hp motor mounted in garage wall...
>> tubing runs through the house.. you only plug in the hose... Enough power
>> to suck DC empty.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: rechargeable stick vacuum cleaner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 How long will it last? We've been in our house 12 years so the central vac is 
at least that old, if I were to guess its probably twice that old but I don't 
know for sure.Had a Kirby door to door salesman stop by a few years ago, didn't 
know they still existed before that, he did the "lets test our super vacuum 
against yours." My central vac at least kept up with his machine which I would 
expect, mine is bigger.
The little robot is for sure convenient but, especially on carpet, its leaving 
a lot of "stuff" down there. Oh and it can't vacuum your bed. Seriously, vacuum 
your bed, its great...
-Curt

On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 8:24:34 PM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Beg to differ. For $200 you can have a Eufy that will not only pick up all
the stuff but it will do it at a scheduled time every day while you are
elsewhere. What the robot lacks in power it will more than make up for in
persistence. The area under it's time vs suction curve is huge because it
makes the time factor - it vacuums more than you ever will.

On Dec 2, 2018 5:01 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Had it in my boyhood home in the 60s and 70s and it was horrible, as it was
really inefficient. The Hoover Constellation was used instead.  I suspect
it was either a crappy system or was poorly designed.

Put it in the house we built in Wisconsin and it was wonderful.  Especially
nice for a two story house.  The system would suck paint off the walls if
you let it.

I highly recommend.

-D

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Agree 100% once you've had central vac you'll never consider anything
else.Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>  On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:  Yes:
>
> Whole house central vacuum. Huge 5 hp motor mounted in garage wall...
> tubing runs through the house.. you only plug in the hose... Enough power
> to suck DC empty.
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Notice the guy on the right getting ready to shoot, and the RSO has to make him 
stop and don eye and hearing protection?

There's no discernible recoil involved in firing those shotguns. 
Could they be training with blanks?
Brazilian cops run the full range of skill, just like ours. 
You'll see videos of Lee Paige stupidity, then you'll see a video where one of 
them puts an assailant down with two fast and well aimed shots. 

Mitch.

> On December 3, 2018 at 1:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Yeahbut, a good range (a safe range) won't have any combustible materials 
> forward of the line, most ranges I've shot at had a sand floor.
> 
> The output of those guns seems weird, that long slow flash. I suspect they're 
> shooting some sort of incendiary round, obviously not intended for indoor 
> shooting.
> 
> Its long been my contention that the people least safe with firearms are law 
> enforcement officials. This does nothing to change that attitude...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The best way to spend black Friday

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeahbut, a good range (a safe range) won't have any combustible materials 
forward of the line, most ranges I've shot at had a sand floor.

The output of those guns seems weird, that long slow flash. I suspect they're 
shooting some sort of incendiary round, obviously not intended for indoor 
shooting.

Its long been my contention that the people least safe with firearms are law 
enforcement officials. This does nothing to change that attitude...

-Curt




On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 8:08:10 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





A lot of people don’t realize how much unburnt powder comes out of a gun barrel…

-D


> On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Some people wish they didn't go to the range on black Friday. 
> 
> https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CYPSB_1543761936
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Promo code for free shipping is: 500EPROMO

-D


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville (IL).  Definitely buy the 
> center bearing from Mercedes - it comes in a kit form with a new boot and the 
> retention rings. You won’t get these from an aftermarket supplier, and the 
> price will be almost the same.
> 
> https://www.mboemparts.com
> 
> There’s a promo code for free shipping from them, too.  I need to look it up. 
>  I’lll post it momentarily.  Kleb will probably pipe up and say “Importec”, 
> which is fine, but they won’t have the OE bearing kit. I always stick with 
> Mann, as I trust them.  Meyle often reboxes Asian garbage.  Look for a Mann 
> part number with “/KIT” after the number, which will have all the bits needed 
> to do the complete filter/fluid swap.
> 
> And yes, you’re going to get boned for visor clips. No good way around that 
> one.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
>> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>> 
>> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight 
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should. 
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system - 
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.  
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville (IL).  Definitely buy the center 
bearing from Mercedes - it comes in a kit form with a new boot and the 
retention rings. You won’t get these from an aftermarket supplier, and the 
price will be almost the same.

https://www.mboemparts.com

There’s a promo code for free shipping from them, too.  I need to look it up.  
I’lll post it momentarily.  Kleb will probably pipe up and say “Importec”, 
which is fine, but they won’t have the OE bearing kit. I always stick with 
Mann, as I trust them.  Meyle often reboxes Asian garbage.  Look for a Mann 
part number with “/KIT” after the number, which will have all the bits needed 
to do the complete filter/fluid swap.

And yes, you’re going to get boned for visor clips. No good way around that one.

-D




> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
> 
> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
> 
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
> 
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight and 
> true. Not stopping as well as it should. 
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system - 
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.  
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I was thinking even on one bank, odd on the other, but found something from a 
forum that said right then left. 

Now I find this, credited to NGK, which agrees with the forum.
http://www.wellsve.com/custom_searches/pdf/firing_order/Benz_car_15.pdf

So I'm going to assume that if my 2A plug is flatlining on the oscilloscope and 
the 2B plug looks very bad, I should start looking at the middle cylinder on 
the right bank.

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[MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
today for my newly acquired 1983 240D

 Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used one 
they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am checking 
local junk yards.  Any color will do.

Also looking for:
Gas/oil filler cap.
Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a Mann.  
Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. Thoughts?
Clear fuel filter(s)
Canister fuel filter(s)

Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight and 
true. Not stopping as well as it should. 
Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
other calipers.
Working on vacuum system - 
Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
Shifting is erratic as well.
Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted out.
I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.  
Mike

 







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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I could be wrong, of course.  ^.^

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:26 AM Jim Cathey  wrote:

> > If memory serves me correctly, it's 1-3-5 on one bank and 2-4-6 on the
> > other.
>
> That would be odd, given that on the older V8's it's 1-4 down the right
> side, and 5-8 down the left.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> If memory serves me correctly, it's 1-3-5 on one bank and 2-4-6 on the
> other.

That would be odd, given that on the older V8's it's 1-4 down the right side, 
and 5-8 down the left.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got to have breakfast with Richard Nixon in 1968.  Dad was a mover and shaker 
in the R party at the time, and it was a donation sort of thing, so all of us 
had to go so he could make the largest possible donation to the campaign.

Don’t recall a lot about it other than Nixon always looked like he just rolled 
out of bed…

-D

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Andrew wrote:
>> I shook hands with two presidents, including George HW Bush at a receiving
>> line at a diplomatic function in NYC in 1973.  Very decent guy.
> 
> George HW Bush was not president, but he was campaigning to be prez
> when I shook hands with him at Petersen Field CSPGS.  That had to be
> 1988.  It was amazing to watch USSS as they "eyeballed" each person
> along the line and the open door limo driving at walking speed behind
> Bush 41.  Eyeballs tell a lot about a person??  Interesting.
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

If memory serves me correctly, it's 1-3-5 on one bank and 2-4-6 on the
other.

-MMM-

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Is it 1-2-3 down the right bank then 4-5-6 on the left?
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