Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?

2019-06-09 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The W124 monovalve is not repairable, you must replace it complete.  Usually 
the seal fails, just like the W123 except that it's a rubber fitting instead of 
a diaphragm, but I've also had the coil go bad.

In either case there are not parts, it has to be replaced complete.

Peter
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[MBZ] The Tonys...and the VW Commercial

2019-06-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I don’t suppose anyone watched the Tony’s. If you did you likely saw a new VW 
commercial where it looks like they are using their cheaty mccheaterton phase 
as the driving force to go electric, showing a glimpse of a new bus. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>  w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a replacement for the long in 
> the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.

The letters are consistent.  W is sedan, S is wagon, R is roadster, C is coupe. 
 There
is no W107, only R/C107.  There ought to be a C123, but I'm not sure they ever 
used
that designation.  Certainly did W123 and S123, though.  Never R123.

The numbers were probably sequentially assigned, at time of _concept_.
Not all concepts get finished, or finished in order.  Later I'm sure there was
back-filling, re-using numbers that never really got off the ground.  I suspect
that's why 107 is lower than anything else.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] A Nice R129/SL600

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-mercedes-sl600/6908423291.html

I find it humorous that the seller is willing to trade for a Mustang….

-D
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Part number prefixes are meaningless for the most part.  In many cases they’ll 
cross over between chassis numbers over time, so the prefixes are irrelevant at 
that point.

That’s like some of my W111 parts having 108 prefixes.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> OK - my memory is slipping - it's the R129 that is based on the W124. The
> R/C107 is based on the W114/115.
> 
> Part numbers. When I owned both a pair of W124s and a C107 I noticed
> several 107 part numbers started with 124. When I needed a pair of new rear
> axel half shafts, I ordered them from Rusty - both of them had 124 part
> numbers, though the left and right were different - the Right one had the
> teeth for measuring rotation by a sensor for the anti-slip (or what ever MB
> called it) on the R129 that wasn't on my W124. I had to grind them down to
> get the axle into the wheel hub. Rusty offered to replace it with the
> correct part, but I was already driving the car by that point. (He wasn't
> open on Sundays).
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Citation, please? I’ve never heard of this, I would like to see the source
>> of the information.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:53 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.
 
 
 The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class
 
 R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming
 
 With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a
 replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.  There
 must be a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.
 
 
 clay monroe
 
> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
>> what
 I'm looking for didn't fall out.
 
 
 
> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis >> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Chassis of SL after R107.
 
 
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>>> OK Don
>>> 
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
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> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
OK - my memory is slipping - it's the R129 that is based on the W124. The
R/C107 is based on the W114/115.

Part numbers. When I owned both a pair of W124s and a C107 I noticed
several 107 part numbers started with 124. When I needed a pair of new rear
axel half shafts, I ordered them from Rusty - both of them had 124 part
numbers, though the left and right were different - the Right one had the
teeth for measuring rotation by a sensor for the anti-slip (or what ever MB
called it) on the R129 that wasn't on my W124. I had to grind them down to
get the axle into the wheel hub. Rusty offered to replace it with the
correct part, but I was already driving the car by that point. (He wasn't
open on Sundays).

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Citation, please? I’ve never heard of this, I would like to see the source
> of the information.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 2019, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:53 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.
> >>
> >>
> >> The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class
> >>
> >> R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming
> >>
> >> With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a
> >> replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.  There
> >> must be a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.
> >>
> >>
> >> clay monroe
> >>
> >>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
> what
> >> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Chassis of SL after R107.
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?

2019-06-09 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The mono valve requires 12v to keep it closed (heat off).  Any disruption to 
the current going to the valve (coil) will allow it to burp open (e.g. bad 
connection, bad solder joint, etc.)  During normal heater operation the valve 
is cycled open and closed to regulate temp.

The repair kit just includes the moving part and it's called a "lifting magnet" 
A 000 836 06 55.  They were hard to get for a time but I heard MBZ made a new 
batch.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:45 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?
> 
> I should either install one, or get a new mono valve.
> 
> Yesterday I replaced the expansion valve and drier, recharged with
> Freeze12, installed clip light leak sealer.  Making ice cubes now, but
> still had the occasional hot blast.  Found the better radiator hose
> pincher, put that on the heater core hose, hot blast is gone.  44 degree
> F vent temps this morning, but not very hot yet.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> On June 6, 2019 6:25:52 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >My 1979 300TD (sold 10+ years ago) came with a shutoff valve in the
> >antifreeze hose to the heat exchanger, installed by some previous
> >owner.  That turned out to be a good feature.  This (79) was a servo
> >system.
> >
> >Also, my 300SD exhibited similar symptoms (blasts of hear) when the
> >monovalve failed.  Long time ago but I think the rubber diaphragm
> >ripped.  I also leatned to never use leak stop in these systems.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 3:57 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?
> >>
> >> I tried an experiment and hit the defrost button, and got a nice
> >blast of heat, so
> >> my clamp-off of the heater hose is not effective, and my problem
> >could be
> >> improper signaling to the monovalve to turn on the heat.
> >>
> >> However, after thinking about failure modes, if the expansion valve
> >opened up
> >> wide and flooded the evaporator with liquid refrigerant, I'll bet
> >that refrigerant
> >> is also rather warm and would cause hot air to flow from the vents.
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:56 PM Max Dillon 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > That was my first thought as well, so I clamped off the hose.  No
> >or
> >> > very little coolant flow to the heater core.  I will test with the
> >> > defrost button to verify.
> >> > --
> >> > Max Dillon
> >> > Charleston SC
> >> >
> >> > On June 3, 2019 2:48:10 AM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > >Mono valve?
> >> > >
> >> > >> -Original Message-
> >> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >> > >> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> >> > >> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:25 PM
> >> > >> To: Mercedes 
> >> > >> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> >> > >> Subject: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The White Whale, aka 124.193, aka 1987 300TD.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I've got a hydrocarbon blend in the AC system now, and worse
> >there
> >> > >> is
> >> > >a slight
> >> > >> leak from the evaporator so the blend is probably off.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Last summer and now this summer, when the ambient temp is over
> >75
> >> > >> or
> >> > >80,
> >> > >> and after I've been running the AC for fifteen minutes or so and
> >> > >> once
> >> > >the
> >> > >> system is at about peak performance, weirdness sets in.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Vent temperature will be about 50 degrees, but then they rocket
> >> > >> right
> >> > >up to
> >> > >> 80 or 90 degrees and it blows hot for a few minutes, and then
> >cools
> >> > >back down
> >> > >> to 50.  Blows cold for a few minutes, then another blast of hot
> >> > >> air,
> >> > >and it goes
> >> > >> back and forth like that until I shut the car off.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I used to think this was the expansion valve, but now I'm
> >wondering
> >> > >if the
> >> > >> compressor is the fault.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I think I'm probably going to swap out both.
> >> > >> -
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think you meant that the R129 is based on the 124?  I think Dan shared that a 
few weeks ago?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 9, 2019 6:04:13 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
>
>On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:53 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.
>>
>>
>> The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class
>>
>> R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming
>>
>> With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a
>> replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129. 
>There
>> must be a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.
>>
>>
>> clay monroe
>>
>> > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
>what
>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis
>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Chassis of SL after R107.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And this appears to be somewhat correct - components of the W114 were used to 
design the R107.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall some press release at one time that it was an elongation of 
> the w114 mated to the back end of the w116.
> 
> A Sacco and Vanzeti design
> 
> clay 
> 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1082 SD - Allen
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
> 
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sacco and Tomforde, not Vanzeti.

It was designed based on a shortened W124 chassis, as I suspected. It’s very 
W124-like in a lot of respects.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall some press release at one time that it was an elongation of 
> the w114 mated to the back end of the w116.
> 
> A Sacco and Vanzeti design
> 
> clay 
> 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1082 SD - Allen
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
> 
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[MBZ] Transmission Pan Magnet

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but for years I’ve used the doughnut shaped 
magnet in MB automatic transmission pans. I just came across a flat one that 
looks like it fits much better and it has a lot more surface area. It’s a 
Mercedes part number 220 271 00 98 and costs about $5.00.

(Handy reference with a picture)

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-mercedes-benz-parts/transmission-oil-pan-magnet/2202710098~mb/

-D
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
I seem to recall some press release at one time that it was an elongation of 
the w114 mated to the back end of the w116.

A Sacco and Vanzeti design

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1082 SD - Allen
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








> On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---

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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Citation, please? I’ve never heard of this, I would like to see the source of 
the information.

-D


> On Jun 9, 2019, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:53 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.
>> 
>> 
>> The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class
>> 
>> R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming
>> 
>> With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a
>> replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.  There
>> must be a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Chassis of SL after R107.
>> 
>> 
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds good, but the R107 was built on the W124 chassis ---

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:53 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.
>
>
> The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class
>
> R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming
>
> With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a
> replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.  There
> must be a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.
>
>
> clay monroe
>
> > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Chassis of SL after R107.
>
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
If you stare at the issue long enough it does become obvious.


The w113 is of the era of w110/111/112/114/115/116 design class

R107 follows the 108/109 numbering scheme of dart board naming

With the advent of the w123, we moved to the  w126/w124 and needing a 
replacement for the long in the tooth, R107, follow with a w129.  There must be 
a large hole in the desert where the w127/128 are buried.


clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> 
>> Chassis of SL after R107.


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Re: [MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Make sure all your gutters are unblocked and that the downspouts divert
rainwater away from the foundation!  Then regrade with the plastic sheets.
We did this for our leak DC house and it solved all problems - cheaper and
quieter than a noisy sump pump.

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> Can you explain the basement trick? Ours leaks a bit, I've been planning
> to dig around it and lay plastic sheets, also to resculpt the landscape to
> help the water run away.More insulation would be a plus too.
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 7:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   yes.   Several times I didn't rush on a
> big project, but let the ideas
> simmer, and in the end, the product was significantly better than the
> original plan.  Moving a garage in 1977 is one of those projects.
> Straightening basement walls is a couple others.   I've done 2 of those
> now, and it is a one man job once you dig up around the outside.  But is
> is still way cheaper than putting in the anchors, or the braces or other
> solutions.  An old carpenter told me the trick.  In the end, you get a
> dry, insulated basement that is tight and significantly warmer in the
> winter as a bonus.  Lotsa smaller projects, i apparently put off, but
> the delay allowed gestation of better ideas.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 11:14 AM:
> > Randy, that's exactly what I've found - take your time, let the plan
> stew a
> > bit, it will come out better in the end. Or, as my Dad said, "haste makes
> > waste."
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Details 2020 Silverado 1500's New Diesel Engine

2019-06-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dodge has had a 3.0l diesel since 2013 I think. I drove one in 2014 when we 
bought ours, it was nice, drove as well as the 5.7l gasser but I couldn't 
justify the extra cost.IIRC the Dodge engine is made by VM Motori and is used 
in big trucks in Europe.

Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 7:25 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   FINALLY!   A peekup diesel in a sane 
size.   And 6 cyl inline is the 
right format too.

Craig via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 5:23 PM:
> Having discussed Mercedes' new diesel engine recently, I thought this was
> a good follow-up.
>
>
> https://www.truckinginfo.com/333016/2020-chevrolet-silverados-new-3-0l-duramax-turbodiesel
>
>
>
> Craig
>


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Re: [MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Can you explain the basement trick? Ours leaks a bit, I've been planning to dig 
around it and lay plastic sheets, also to resculpt the landscape to help the 
water run away.More insulation would be a plus too.

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 7:16 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   yes.   Several times I didn't rush on 
a big project, but let the ideas 
simmer, and in the end, the product was significantly better than the 
original plan.  Moving a garage in 1977 is one of those projects. 
Straightening basement walls is a couple others.   I've done 2 of those 
now, and it is a one man job once you dig up around the outside.  But is 
is still way cheaper than putting in the anchors, or the braces or other 
solutions.  An old carpenter told me the trick.  In the end, you get a 
dry, insulated basement that is tight and significantly warmer in the 
winter as a bonus.  Lotsa smaller projects, i apparently put off, but 
the delay allowed gestation of better ideas.

OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 11:14 AM:
> Randy, that's exactly what I've found - take your time, let the plan stew a
> bit, it will come out better in the end. Or, as my Dad said, "haste makes
> waste."
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And you also have the leading letter, like R, W, C, S…. more confusion.

-D


> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> 
>> Chassis of SL after R107.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I give up - what's R129?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 8:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Channeling Wilton - "Attaboy"!
 
 On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> These are all fine and dandy ideas, guys, but since the mount is a
>> rubber
> part and there’s no way to gain any sort of purchase to speak of on the
 top
> side o fit when it’s installed, none of these suggestions are viable.
>> And
> yes, I used a punch to try and get things lined up, but as soon as I
 would
> withdraw it from the opening the mount would move back out of position.
> 
> Remember, you’re also working through an opening that’s about 1” in
> diameter dealing with a hole that about 3” deep in the crossmember,
>> too.
> 
> I ended up lifting the engine slightly, just enough to take some of the
> weight off the mount,, then using a large crescent wrench on the bosses
 of
> the mount, pulling the mount over to line things up while
>> simultaneously
> running the bolt in with a long extension and a socket.
> 
> Took some major gyrating but it worked, that’s all that matters.
> 
> The car idles so nicely I can’t believe it. I think it would easily
>> pass
> the champagne glass test if the hood didn’t have such an angle to it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> An appropriate size hammer is often persuasive also.
>> 
>> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 6:31 PM:
>>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 18:07:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 That is what tapered punches are for.
>>> Iron workers regularly use a large version of that for lining things
 up
>>> right ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 9:28 AM:
> Sounds like fun.  I hate it when things don't line up *quite* right
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 pause and reflect." Mark Twain
 
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>> who
 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves."
 
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks.  No rhyme or reason in the progression:   W113, 107, 129.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> Chassis of SL after R107.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I give up - what's R129?
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 8:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Channeling Wilton - "Attaboy"!
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> These are all fine and dandy ideas, guys, but since the mount is a
> rubber
> >>> part and there’s no way to gain any sort of purchase to speak of on the
> >> top
> >>> side o fit when it’s installed, none of these suggestions are viable.
> And
> >>> yes, I used a punch to try and get things lined up, but as soon as I
> >> would
> >>> withdraw it from the opening the mount would move back out of position.
> >>>
> >>> Remember, you’re also working through an opening that’s about 1” in
> >>> diameter dealing with a hole that about 3” deep in the crossmember,
> too.
> >>>
> >>> I ended up lifting the engine slightly, just enough to take some of the
> >>> weight off the mount,, then using a large crescent wrench on the bosses
> >> of
> >>> the mount, pulling the mount over to line things up while
> simultaneously
> >>> running the bolt in with a long extension and a socket.
> >>>
> >>> Took some major gyrating but it worked, that’s all that matters.
> >>>
> >>> The car idles so nicely I can’t believe it. I think it would easily
> pass
> >>> the champagne glass test if the hood didn’t have such an angle to it.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Jun 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  An appropriate size hammer is often persuasive also.
> 
>  Craig via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 6:31 PM:
> > On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 18:07:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> That is what tapered punches are for.
> > Iron workers regularly use a large version of that for lining things
> >> up
> > right ...
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 9:28 AM:
> >>> Sounds like fun.  I hate it when things don't line up *quite* right
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> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
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> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] I Simply Have No Words...

2019-06-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If that's "good condition" I guess "fair" would mean gaping rust holes
everywhere...

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 12:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No loballahs yo ah no whut ah gots
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I know it’s on FB, but if you can see it, enjoy:
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2224630004282121/
> >
> > It’s a 1961 Ponton diesel that’s been pimped out with 20s.
> >
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] I Simply Have No Words...

2019-06-09 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
No loballahs yo ah no whut ah gots

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know it’s on FB, but if you can see it, enjoy:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2224630004282121/
> 
> It’s a 1961 Ponton diesel that’s been pimped out with 20s.
> 
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] I Simply Have No Words...

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I know it’s on FB, but if you can see it, enjoy:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2224630004282121/

It’s a 1961 Ponton diesel that’s been pimped out with 20s.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?

2019-06-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I should either install one, or get a new mono valve.

Yesterday I replaced the expansion valve and drier, recharged with Freeze12, 
installed clip light leak sealer.  Making ice cubes now, but still had the 
occasional hot blast.  Found the better radiator hose pincher, put that on the 
heater core hose, hot blast is gone.  44 degree F vent temps this morning, but 
not very hot yet.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 6, 2019 6:25:52 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>My 1979 300TD (sold 10+ years ago) came with a shutoff valve in the
>antifreeze hose to the heat exchanger, installed by some previous
>owner.  That turned out to be a good feature.  This (79) was a servo
>system.
>
>Also, my 300SD exhibited similar symptoms (blasts of hear) when the
>monovalve failed.  Long time ago but I think the rubber diaphragm
>ripped.  I also leatned to never use leak stop in these systems.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 3:57 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?
>> 
>> I tried an experiment and hit the defrost button, and got a nice
>blast of heat, so
>> my clamp-off of the heater hose is not effective, and my problem
>could be
>> improper signaling to the monovalve to turn on the heat.
>> 
>> However, after thinking about failure modes, if the expansion valve
>opened up
>> wide and flooded the evaporator with liquid refrigerant, I'll bet
>that refrigerant
>> is also rather warm and would cause hot air to flow from the vents.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:56 PM Max Dillon 
>wrote:
>> 
>> > That was my first thought as well, so I clamped off the hose.  No
>or
>> > very little coolant flow to the heater core.  I will test with the
>> > defrost button to verify.
>> > --
>> > Max Dillon
>> > Charleston SC
>> >
>> > On June 3, 2019 2:48:10 AM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >Mono valve?
>> > >
>> > >> -Original Message-
>> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > >> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> > >> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:25 PM
>> > >> To: Mercedes 
>> > >> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>> > >> Subject: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?
>> > >>
>> > >> The White Whale, aka 124.193, aka 1987 300TD.
>> > >>
>> > >> I've got a hydrocarbon blend in the AC system now, and worse
>there
>> > >> is
>> > >a slight
>> > >> leak from the evaporator so the blend is probably off.
>> > >>
>> > >> Last summer and now this summer, when the ambient temp is over
>75
>> > >> or
>> > >80,
>> > >> and after I've been running the AC for fifteen minutes or so and
>> > >> once
>> > >the
>> > >> system is at about peak performance, weirdness sets in.
>> > >>
>> > >> Vent temperature will be about 50 degrees, but then they rocket
>> > >> right
>> > >up to
>> > >> 80 or 90 degrees and it blows hot for a few minutes, and then
>cools
>> > >back down
>> > >> to 50.  Blows cold for a few minutes, then another blast of hot
>> > >> air,
>> > >and it goes
>> > >> back and forth like that until I shut the car off.
>> > >>
>> > >> I used to think this was the expansion valve, but now I'm
>wondering
>> > >if the
>> > >> compressor is the fault.
>> > >>
>> > >> I think I'm probably going to swap out both.
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Re: [MBZ] ML Mania

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That would be useful in Florida.

-D


> On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> you can buy a cheap little steam generator at a restaurant auction or even a 
> small boiler, heat your building and have steam to clean cars, floor, 
> upholstery, or whatever.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 8:27 PM:
>> I have thought about getting the HF one
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Motor Mounts

2019-06-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Chassis of SL after R107.

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> On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> I give up - what's R129?
> 
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 8:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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>> Channeling Wilton - "Attaboy"!
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> These are all fine and dandy ideas, guys, but since the mount is a rubber
>>> part and there’s no way to gain any sort of purchase to speak of on the
>> top
>>> side o fit when it’s installed, none of these suggestions are viable. And
>>> yes, I used a punch to try and get things lined up, but as soon as I
>> would
>>> withdraw it from the opening the mount would move back out of position.
>>> 
>>> Remember, you’re also working through an opening that’s about 1” in
>>> diameter dealing with a hole that about 3” deep in the crossmember, too.
>>> 
>>> I ended up lifting the engine slightly, just enough to take some of the
>>> weight off the mount,, then using a large crescent wrench on the bosses
>> of
>>> the mount, pulling the mount over to line things up while simultaneously
>>> running the bolt in with a long extension and a socket.
>>> 
>>> Took some major gyrating but it worked, that’s all that matters.
>>> 
>>> The car idles so nicely I can’t believe it. I think it would easily pass
>>> the champagne glass test if the hood didn’t have such an angle to it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 An appropriate size hammer is often persuasive also.
 
 Craig via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 6:31 PM:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 18:07:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
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>> That is what tapered punches are for.
> Iron workers regularly use a large version of that for lining things
>> up
> right ...
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 6/8/19 9:28 AM:
>>> Sounds like fun.  I hate it when things don't line up *quite* right
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