Re: [MBZ] ML 722.6 connector leaking

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The conductor plate has absolutely nothing to do with keeping oil in.
That's all part of the connector assembly, and its seals.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Very OT setting up a web/mail server on my own box

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Jim uses a Mac.

Because it's easy to administer, but primarily because of Time Machine.
It's backed up seamlessly, just like all of our user machines.  Otherwise
I'd probably be using a Pi.

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Re: [MBZ] Very OT setting up a web/mail server on my own box

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Floyd wrote:

> I bought a domain and was thinking to set up a server like some
> of you have instead of just having it hosted by some outfit.
> Probably more than I want to do but can someone tell me what the
> basic process is to set up such a thing, email and some content
> to be served up?

Well, that's sort of like asking, "I just bought a barn.  I'd like
to set up a workshop.  What should I put in it?"  Could be
welding, woodworking, automotive, pottery, taxidermy, gunsmith,
jewelery.

Yet there are some generals.

Internet access is required.  Duh.

You need a public IP address that DNS can find.  Most of us don't
pay the extra money for a "fixed IP address" so there are "dynamic
DNS" services that will let a visitor enter "thurst.org" and the
DNS will find your IP even if it's not the same as it was
yesterday.

A server is needed.  This is a computer running software.  For
email, I'm guessing you want a place for _your_ email to live -
not a service for others.  But the web server is likely for other
people to use.

A Raspberry Pi can be used as a server.  I personally would use
Linux, or BSD - but whatever.  Jim uses a Mac.  For web hosting,
run the server software, set your firewall to allow the HTTP and
HTTPS to get in, and you're live.  Then all you need is content.
Photos, witty writing, helpful articles - whatever you have.

Email can be trickier.  The method I use is to collect via POP3
(don't leave the messages "out there") and then here inside I host
them via IMAP (5 different computers look at the same mail
message).  Be aware the "send" process of email is a completely
different set of actions than "get".

Far easier is to pay for hosting.  Maybe buy hosting for a year or
so and see what is involved without running your own software,
then migrate to your own somewhere along the way.  Bluehost has
served me well. Linux servers, SSH login (lets me use rsync), fair
prices, good services, and what limited tech help I have asked for
has been there.

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[MBZ] OT: The Delivery Robots’ Greatest Threat

[Craig via Mercedes]

We have been talking about all kinds of things on the list.

Here is a different view on an up-and-coming technology:

https://www.truckinginfo.com/334552/the-delivery-robots-greatest-threat


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:17:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am going to run for Congress based on 2 platforms: 1) using the full 
> capabilities of National Technical Means to find and eliminate spam 
> callers wherever they are on the planet: and 2) to abolish Daylight 
> Savings or Standard Time or whatever it is that makes the clocks 
> change.

Sounds like a good plan. With the NSA doing all that data gathering, why
can they not put it to good use and track down the spam callers?

As I wrote to myself a few months ago:

  Scammers can use computers to make your Caller ID say anything they want
- Why can't the Congress pass a law requiring the Bells to prevent
  that?
- Failing that, why can't the NSA track these criminals?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:11:21 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I like how they use your exchange number to fool you into answering.
> Like if your number is 444-321-9034 they call you from a “321” exchange.

On our cell phone, I look at the number and if it's one I don't
recognize, particularly if it's from my same exchange, I don't answer it.
I know no one who has the same exchange as our cell phone.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ML 722.6 connector leaking

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That will be a great deal, if you can solve this with a new conductor plate
or connector and a fluid / filter change.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:54 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> I looked at another coupla vids of replacing the conductor plate, it
> seems like the electrical connector thingie is what seals it up, one
> o-ring into the conductor plate electrical socket and the other seals
> against the transmission body and the fluid is contained between the 2
> o-rings.
>
> I'm gonna drop the pan and just go ahead and replace the fluid and
> filter, at least that will be done.
>
> The car is surprisingly clean underneath, I guess maybe he detailed it
> before he tried to sell it.  :Looks like a bit of PS fluid dripping but
> nothing too bad, there are some new tranny cooler hoses in there, the
> vehicle looks pretty well maintained (aside from this issue).
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/25/19 8:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I pulled off the electrical connector (easy on the ML, fair amount of
> > room to work in there) and there was a lot of fluid in there.  I
> > sopped up what I could up in the transmission hole where the
> > connectors are, coming off the conductor plate it looks like. I
> > sprayed contact cleaner in there too but it seems to keep leaking out
> > fluid and it is not particularly clean either.  I'm wondering if this
> > guy I bought it from actually changed the conductor plate like he
> > said.  I'm not quite sure why it would keep leaking. Looking at pics
> > of the conductor plate I don't see how it seals up against the
> > transmission body where it goes out the hole, there don't appear to be
> > any orings in there.
> >
> > Any thoughts on why it is leaking out the transmission hole?  Are the
> > o-rings in the connector (I have a new one but the old one looked OK)
> > what keeps things from leaking?
> >
> > I don't think it wicked up the wires but I will pull the TCU and look
> > at it too after I sort this aspect out.
> >
> > The fluid looked dirty and nasty, I'm wondering if I should just drop
> > the pan and drain out the fluid and pulled the valve body and take a
> > look at the conductor plate and see exactly what is going on?  I see
> > new ones plus filter, gasket and connector for $80 on Amazon, some
> > generic part I am thinking but since there are so many of these things
> > out there I guess it would be OK.  Although I do have a filter and
> > connector already, just the conductor plate is only $7 less.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Racor?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:23 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Craig wrote:
> > What is the purpose of the replacement kit? Is there a fault with the OE
> > system? Thanks
>
> Did anyone else use the fuel filter that was a clear glass contraption
> not unlike the pictures?  What was the name of that filter?  How about
> oil filter using toilet paper?  The name on the toilet paper oil
> filter was Frantz.
> tin
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[MBZ] toilet paper filters

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:43:32 -0400 (EDT)
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:

> More capacity, less frequent changes?
> I thought this was going to be for a filter with a visible/drainable water 
> trap.
> Those I might be willing to pay for. 
> 
> This, unless the media is a lot finer than original, I'd rather have a case 
> of spare Manns in the trunk than one of these under the hood. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

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What’s wrong with that?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Much the same as taking a 600 pullman and slamming it, then giving it a 
> rattle can spray to match the blacked out windows and LED underbody lighting

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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

When my buddy got married in college he had the ceremony at this inn at Brown 
County Park in Indiana.   While he and the bride were changing to go my buddies 
and I picked up his beetle and carried it through the doors of the inn and 
deposited it there. He was somewhat annoyed at our antic but drove it out the 
doors and they were on their way. 

We found it highly amusing. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You can do that with a regular (sedan) Beetle all day long. A convertible has 
> larger frame box members on the sides of the pan to give it structural 
> rigidity. Try and lift the convertible body off the pan and it folds up like 
> a big German taco.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm - when I replaced the pan on my '51 VW bug with one from a '62 or '64
>> (don't remember for sure now), we just closed the doors, a guy on each
>> corner, and we just lifted it off and set on blocks until the newer pan was
>> ready (needed the front axle transplanted). Rinse a repeat to put it on the
>> prepared pan - no issues at all.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
>>> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between
>>> the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan without
>>> the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I don't know what to say

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’m feeling insulted the PO removed the badges. Without the wrap it lacks the 
merzadeez panache. 

--FT

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Praise the Lord and pass the plate?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1962670730505371/
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Another reason to move to the country - even on our small 1.25 acre lot, we
can't see another house from ours.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:54 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have the same thing going on in South Tampa. It’s a fairly compressed
> area that was populated with small bungalows built post WWII. Now they get
> razed and a vertical McMansion goes up in place of the bungalow on a very,
> very small lot.
>
> Almost as bad as the tearing down and replacement is the horrible
> patchwork look the area has because there are bungalows with McMansions on
> either side of them, or vice-versa. No consistency of size, architecture,
> nothing.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am having issue with the destruction of the more modest architecture
> in town.  The neighborhood really grew with post war housing and the bulk
> of homes around me echoed the ethos of 1950s homes.  Think Brady  Bunch or
> Leave it to Beaver.  Now, with property values through the roof, these
> homes are being bulldozed and people kennels (look like stacks of shoe
> boxes fell over) are popping up like mushrooms on a cow patty.  Large lots
> are now fully occupied with monstrosities that infringe on the set back.
> >
> > I guess it is urban renewal, but feels like blight to my eyes.  Those
> original homes sell for seven figures and get torn down so a millionaire
> can have a spectacular view.  And pay a five figure tax bill.  Much the
> same as taking a 600 pullman and slamming it, then giving it a rattle can
> spray to match the blacked out windows and LED underbody lighting
> >
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> >> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24/06/2019 4:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> There are some decent normal folks there but for the most part it’s
> ignorant, unwilling to listen to advice, slam car to the ground, exhaust
> pipe sticking out of hood snowflake Kidd’s
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, do remember that some people take a long time to grow up but most
> ultimately do. Lots of people used to complain about the "ricer rockets"
> that the younger folks were building. I truly did not care what they did to
> Honda Civics and thought it was a good sign that the younger folks were
> still interested in cars. I feel a bit worse about what they are doing to
> old Mercedes, but if they buy them, they are entitled to do what they want
> to them and it really is none of our business. Many of these cars will be
> sold cheaply or end up in junk yards and you will be able to pick over the
> bones. Not the end of the world.
> >>
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have the same thing going on in South Tampa. It’s a fairly compressed area 
that was populated with small bungalows built post WWII. Now they get razed and 
a vertical McMansion goes up in place of the bungalow on a very, very small lot.

Almost as bad as the tearing down and replacement is the horrible patchwork 
look the area has because there are bungalows with McMansions on either side of 
them, or vice-versa. No consistency of size, architecture, nothing.

-D

 
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I am having issue with the destruction of the more modest architecture in 
> town.  The neighborhood really grew with post war housing and the bulk of 
> homes around me echoed the ethos of 1950s homes.  Think Brady  Bunch or Leave 
> it to Beaver.  Now, with property values through the roof, these homes are 
> being bulldozed and people kennels (look like stacks of shoe boxes fell over) 
> are popping up like mushrooms on a cow patty.  Large lots are now fully 
> occupied with monstrosities that infringe on the set back.
> 
> I guess it is urban renewal, but feels like blight to my eyes.  Those 
> original homes sell for seven figures and get torn down so a millionaire can 
> have a spectacular view.  And pay a five figure tax bill.  Much the same as 
> taking a 600 pullman and slamming it, then giving it a rattle can spray to 
> match the blacked out windows and LED underbody lighting
> 
> 
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 24/06/2019 4:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There are some decent normal folks there but for the most part it’s 
>>> ignorant, unwilling to listen to advice, slam car to the ground, exhaust 
>>> pipe sticking out of hood snowflake Kidd’s
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, do remember that some people take a long time to grow up but most 
>> ultimately do. Lots of people used to complain about the "ricer rockets" 
>> that the younger folks were building. I truly did not care what they did to 
>> Honda Civics and thought it was a good sign that the younger folks were 
>> still interested in cars. I feel a bit worse about what they are doing to 
>> old Mercedes, but if they buy them, they are entitled to do what they want 
>> to them and it really is none of our business. Many of these cars will be 
>> sold cheaply or end up in junk yards and you will be able to pick over the 
>> bones. Not the end of the world.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Diesel vs. Electric

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

We will see just how much Green New Deal power there is if that idiot from WA 
has his way.  He has gotten the SEA persecutor to now want to go after the 
fossil fuel industry in town.  Makes you wonder how these idiots will heat 
their homes in the winter.  Fire wood?  Not going to be oil or natural gas, as 
that is evil.  BPA does make some power out of fish water, but the fish need 
that with our coming drought.  We have a few windmills, and there is a growing 
industry of on home solar panels.  In no way enough to power all the idiotic 
plug in cars on the roads here.  

Might come down to driving to fetch groceries or heating the home this winter 
with all the “green” energy.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You missed the point.  The EV could have been charged from non-fossil fuel
> burning sources (nuclear, solar, geothermal, wind, hydro).
> 
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:36 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The "diesel" caption should say "YOU are so dirty" coming from a greenie
>> weenie along side the road, or the "electric" driver.
>> 
>> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 6/22/19 12:43 PM:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am having issue with the destruction of the more modest architecture in town. 
 The neighborhood really grew with post war housing and the bulk of homes 
around me echoed the ethos of 1950s homes.  Think Brady  Bunch or Leave it to 
Beaver.  Now, with property values through the roof, these homes are being 
bulldozed and people kennels (look like stacks of shoe boxes fell over) are 
popping up like mushrooms on a cow patty.  Large lots are now fully occupied 
with monstrosities that infringe on the set back.

I guess it is urban renewal, but feels like blight to my eyes.  Those original 
homes sell for seven figures and get torn down so a millionaire can have a 
spectacular view.  And pay a five figure tax bill.  Much the same as taking a 
600 pullman and slamming it, then giving it a rattle can spray to match the 
blacked out windows and LED underbody lighting



clay

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 24/06/2019 4:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> There are some decent normal folks there but for the most part it’s 
>> ignorant, unwilling to listen to advice, slam car to the ground, exhaust 
>> pipe sticking out of hood snowflake Kidd’s
>> 
> 
> Well, do remember that some people take a long time to grow up but most 
> ultimately do. Lots of people used to complain about the "ricer rockets" that 
> the younger folks were building. I truly did not care what they did to Honda 
> Civics and thought it was a good sign that the younger folks were still 
> interested in cars. I feel a bit worse about what they are doing to old 
> Mercedes, but if they buy them, they are entitled to do what they want to 
> them and it really is none of our business. Many of these cars will be sold 
> cheaply or end up in junk yards and you will be able to pick over the bones. 
> Not the end of the world.
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well said GMan

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 9:31 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> IMHO, Bundt wheels are an eye distraction when on an otherwise cleanly
> designed car. The Mercedes "look" as designed, imparts a kind of classic
> style that reflects the strong and enduring character earned by the cars
> reputation. Bundt wheels are on par with bad ear rings and mismatched
> lipstick on a "10" woman...
>
> Steel wheels with Mercedes logo, body color match centers all "come
> together" in a smooth, well appointed look one that adds to the overall
> look, rather than draw focus from the car to what is a detail with to many
> angles.
>
> .02 worth of opinion.. An early version of 22"s bling wheels with rubber
> band tires you look at it, but you can't see anything but those damn
> getto wheels kind of thing.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > A good compromise.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 8:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a
> non-metallic
> > > colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car
> shows
> > > and use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly
> > in
> > > > an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say
> (in
> > > > Latin), there is no disputing about taste.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > > Wickford RI
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D
> > > W123.
> > > >> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum
> > > steelies
> > > >> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good
> > > friend
> > > >> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the
> > > bundts
> > > >> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a
> > > Mercedes
> > > >> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes
> so
> > > he’s
> > > >> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the
> bundt
> > to
> > > >> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
> > > >> Andrew’s opinion is!
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I've bought a couple sets over the past 4 years at Costco fit was good,
quality was good, price was "not to bad" car quickly took on that
"leather smell" after install...

Might give them a try, I don't know if they currently carry them... Haven't
looked or a while.


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:24 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I found them very comfortable year round, more so than the MB Tex. However,
> I was to cheap to spring for them in the later cars that didn't come with
> them already installed.
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess the bottom line is what price do I put on not having swamp ass.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What Dan said. I found that the cheap ones had artificial fleece on the
> > > sides and back that turned orange over time. The good ones were 100%
> > sheep
> > > skin and aged/wore better.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I’ve had experience with them, but it’s secondary as they’ve come with
> > >> cars I’ve owned. I’ve never bought a set myself.
> > >>
> > >> I do know from looking at them some years ago that they’re very price
> > >> sensitive in the sense that the quality can vary significantly based
> on
> > >> what you pay. In other words, if you want nice ones they’re expensive.
> > That
> > >> variable also comes into play based on if you want generic ones or
> ones
> > >> that are designed specifically for your car.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>> What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers
> for
> > >> my W124.
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> > >
> > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >
> > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> > who
> > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> > > for themselves."
> > >
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>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Or if you don't care as much about originality, you could strip the paint off 
and powder coat them. If you use the kitchen oven do it when you're home alone. 
This would be a good color to powder coat them:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Lsl4vdn-Rco/UdSVy1q9j4I/Wt0/rVcfp0CVr_Y/s1280/imagens-de-carro-mustang-imagens+(11).jpg


> On June 25, 2019 at 8:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a non-metallic 
> colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car shows and 
> use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?

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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Did MB ever sell that chassis with steelies and hubcaps any place in the
world? If so, that's original enough for me. Use the wheels that you like,
forget everyone else's opinions.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:39 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a non-metallic
> colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car shows
> and use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly  in
> > an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say (in
> > Latin), there is no disputing about taste.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D
> W123.
> >> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum
> steelies
> >> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good
> friend
> >> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the
> bundts
> >> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a
> Mercedes
> >> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so
> he’s
> >> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to
> >> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
> >> Andrew’s opinion is!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[G Mann via Mercedes]

IMHO, Bundt wheels are an eye distraction when on an otherwise cleanly
designed car. The Mercedes "look" as designed, imparts a kind of classic
style that reflects the strong and enduring character earned by the cars
reputation. Bundt wheels are on par with bad ear rings and mismatched
lipstick on a "10" woman...

Steel wheels with Mercedes logo, body color match centers all "come
together" in a smooth, well appointed look one that adds to the overall
look, rather than draw focus from the car to what is a detail with to many
angles.

.02 worth of opinion.. An early version of 22"s bling wheels with rubber
band tires you look at it, but you can't see anything but those damn
getto wheels kind of thing.



On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A good compromise.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 8:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
>
> > The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a non-metallic
> > colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car shows
> > and use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly
> in
> > > an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say (in
> > > Latin), there is no disputing about taste.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D
> > W123.
> > >> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum
> > steelies
> > >> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good
> > friend
> > >> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the
> > bundts
> > >> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a
> > Mercedes
> > >> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so
> > he’s
> > >> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt
> to
> > >> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
> > >> Andrew’s opinion is!
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I found them very comfortable year round, more so than the MB Tex. However,
I was to cheap to spring for them in the later cars that didn't come with
them already installed.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I guess the bottom line is what price do I put on not having swamp ass.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > What Dan said. I found that the cheap ones had artificial fleece on the
> > sides and back that turned orange over time. The good ones were 100%
> sheep
> > skin and aged/wore better.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I’ve had experience with them, but it’s secondary as they’ve come with
> >> cars I’ve owned. I’ve never bought a set myself.
> >>
> >> I do know from looking at them some years ago that they’re very price
> >> sensitive in the sense that the quality can vary significantly based on
> >> what you pay. In other words, if you want nice ones they’re expensive.
> That
> >> variable also comes into play based on if you want generic ones or ones
> >> that are designed specifically for your car.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers for
> >> my W124.
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> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] ML 722.6 connector leaking

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I looked at another coupla vids of replacing the conductor plate, it 
seems like the electrical connector thingie is what seals it up, one 
o-ring into the conductor plate electrical socket and the other seals 
against the transmission body and the fluid is contained between the 2 
o-rings.


I'm gonna drop the pan and just go ahead and replace the fluid and 
filter, at least that will be done.


The car is surprisingly clean underneath, I guess maybe he detailed it 
before he tried to sell it.  :Looks like a bit of PS fluid dripping but 
nothing too bad, there are some new tranny cooler hoses in there, the 
vehicle looks pretty well maintained (aside from this issue).


--FT

On 6/25/19 8:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I pulled off the electrical connector (easy on the ML, fair amount of 
room to work in there) and there was a lot of fluid in there.  I 
sopped up what I could up in the transmission hole where the 
connectors are, coming off the conductor plate it looks like. I 
sprayed contact cleaner in there too but it seems to keep leaking out 
fluid and it is not particularly clean either.  I'm wondering if this 
guy I bought it from actually changed the conductor plate like he 
said.  I'm not quite sure why it would keep leaking. Looking at pics 
of the conductor plate I don't see how it seals up against the 
transmission body where it goes out the hole, there don't appear to be 
any orings in there.


Any thoughts on why it is leaking out the transmission hole?  Are the 
o-rings in the connector (I have a new one but the old one looked OK) 
what keeps things from leaking?


I don't think it wicked up the wires but I will pull the TCU and look 
at it too after I sort this aspect out.


The fluid looked dirty and nasty, I'm wondering if I should just drop 
the pan and drain out the fluid and pulled the valve body and take a 
look at the conductor plate and see exactly what is going on?  I see 
new ones plus filter, gasket and connector for $80 on Amazon, some 
generic part I am thinking but since there are so many of these things 
out there I guess it would be OK.  Although I do have a filter and 
connector already, just the conductor plate is only $7 less.




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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

A good compromise.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 8:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a non-metallic
> colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car shows
> and use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly  in
> > an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say (in
> > Latin), there is no disputing about taste.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D
> W123.
> >> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum
> steelies
> >> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good
> friend
> >> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the
> bundts
> >> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a
> Mercedes
> >> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so
> he’s
> >> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to
> >> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
> >> Andrew’s opinion is!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

The hubcap look is clearly better in my eyes especially on a non-metallic 
colored car. Maybe I keep them for originality for the sake of car shows and 
use the hubcaps for my own driving pleasure?

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly  in
> an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say (in
> Latin), there is no disputing about taste.
> 
> 
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123.
>> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies
>> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend
>> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts
>> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes
>> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s
>> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to
>> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
>> Andrew’s opinion is!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well i won't really weigh in as i think i created the term bundt ugly  in
an earlier discussion of this. But as,my Latin teacher  used to say (in
Latin), there is no disputing about taste.



Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123.
> It has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies
> (I have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend
> is visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts
> are beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes
> guy (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s
> well versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to
> aluminum steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what
> Andrew’s opinion is!
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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig wrote:
> What is the purpose of the replacement kit? Is there a fault with the OE
> system? Thanks

Did anyone else use the fuel filter that was a clear glass contraption
not unlike the pictures?  What was the name of that filter?  How about
oil filter using toilet paper?  The name on the toilet paper oil
filter was Frantz.
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nothing that I know of. The only personal information they want is your name, 
email address and the phone number you want to set up.


"How Does Nomorobo Stay In Business?

While the Nomorobo Landline service is free for consumers, businesses and 
public safety organizations pay to license our data. For consumers, robocalls 
are annoying. But, for businesses it costs them real money. And, for EMS 
systems (like 911), it could be a matter of life and death.

These are the people that don't mind paying for the service and using it 
directly in their telephone equipment.”

There’s your answer.

-D



> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> But I do recommend NomoRobo. Don’t cost ‘nuthin and it’s easy to set up
>> and use. My experience with it has been great. I understand it can be
>> used on mobile lines as well.
> 
> Hm ...
> 
> What do you give away to get the service?
> 
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[MBZ] ML 722.6 connector leaking

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I pulled off the electrical connector (easy on the ML, fair amount of 
room to work in there) and there was a lot of fluid in there.  I sopped 
up what I could up in the transmission hole where the connectors are, 
coming off the conductor plate it looks like. I sprayed contact cleaner 
in there too but it seems to keep leaking out fluid and it is not 
particularly clean either.  I'm wondering if this guy I bought it from 
actually changed the conductor plate like he said.  I'm not quite sure 
why it would keep leaking.  Looking at pics of the conductor plate I 
don't see how it seals up against the transmission body where it goes 
out the hole, there don't appear to be any orings in there.


Any thoughts on why it is leaking out the transmission hole?  Are the 
o-rings in the connector (I have a new one but the old one looked OK) 
what keeps things from leaking?


I don't think it wicked up the wires but I will pull the TCU and look at 
it too after I sort this aspect out.


The fluid looked dirty and nasty, I'm wondering if I should just drop 
the pan and drain out the fluid and pulled the valve body and take a 
look at the conductor plate and see exactly what is going on?  I see new 
ones plus filter, gasket and connector for $80 on Amazon, some generic 
part I am thinking but since there are so many of these things out there 
I guess it would be OK.  Although I do have a filter and connector 
already, just the conductor plate is only $7 less.


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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:32:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I had a rash of those “This is Microsoft tech support - can you check
> your computer? It’s got a virus” a few weeks ago, which I play out for
> a good 5-10 minutes if I can until they realize I’m yanking their chain
> and they yell expletives and hang up.

I received a "Microsoft tech support" call when we were in Los Alamos.
I just played dumb and did everything they told me to do, reporting
faithfully what menu options I saw and when I did not find the menu
option they wanted, which, using CentOS Linux, was quite often.

The fellow finally gave up, asked me to hold, and then put his supervisor
on the line. A little while later he asked me what operating system I was
using. When I said, "Linux," he hung up.


> But I do recommend NomoRobo. Don’t cost ‘nuthin and it’s easy to set up
> and use. My experience with it has been great. I understand it can be
> used on mobile lines as well.

Hm ...

What do you give away to get the service?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hard to say. I’ve made the improvements over such a lengthy period of time it’s 
tough to compare. The one noticeable thing is that the front left isn’t sunk 
down a good 3-4 inches like it had been.

I’m probably going to drive it to work tomorrow since the AC is working now. 
I’ll be able to wind it up good on the reversible lanes in the morning as no 
one will be out and it’s a really, really nice road surface.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m sure that thing drives like a dream now compared to when I drove out 
> here. 
> Well done. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings 
>> Sunday. Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for 
>> another 50 years, I’m guessing.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
>>  
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’m sure that thing drives like a dream now compared to when I drove out here. 
Well done. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings 
> Sunday. Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for 
> another 50 years, I’m guessing.
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
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Re: [MBZ] The New Klebmobile

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bad sign, no interior pics.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 25, 2019 7:12:20 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>Gotta get it today!!
>
>https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/898476947156467/
>
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Re: [MBZ] The New Klebmobile

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks like Mitzi got herself a lowrider there

--FT

On 6/25/19 7:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Gotta get it today!!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/898476947156467/

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Its cleaned up astonishingly in the last 30 years. There are still pockets of 
"the hood" though. I once witnessed a car pulled over for a traffic stop that 
took off. The police gave chase and for reasons I don't understand the car 
pulled over again. Driver took off on foot with one officer in pursuit, the 
other officer removed the passenger from the car by his head. I motored on by 
"I see nothing!" In my mind if you run from the police you deserve what you 
get...
-Curt

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 3:37:08 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I remember, "Come to Lowell!  It's a Riot!" after some sort of civil 
mayhem over something I don't recall.

--FT

On 6/25/19 3:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  Worst was by my old office in Lowell. They didn't bother to stock some of 
>the items on shelves, just wheeled boxes into the aisle, cut off the top and 
>let the mob pick it to death.Horrifying...
> -Curt
>
>      On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 2:49:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>  
>  On 25/06/2019 1:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> Darwin Award runner up material.
>>
>> Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should be
>> a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
>> and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...
>>
> Your WalMarts must be worse than ours. I seldom go there but if I do, I
> don't see the sorts of things that you folks appear to.
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I vote for the Bundts. I think that Bundting in very patriotic. It can get you 
to first base in a pinch.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123. It 
has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies (I 
have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend is 
visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts are 
beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes guy (now 
BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s well versed 
in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to aluminum steelie 
with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what Andrew’s opinion is!

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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I guess the bottom line is what price do I put on not having swamp ass.

Bob R

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What Dan said. I found that the cheap ones had artificial fleece on the
> sides and back that turned orange over time. The good ones were 100% sheep
> skin and aged/wore better.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve had experience with them, but it’s secondary as they’ve come with
>> cars I’ve owned. I’ve never bought a set myself.
>> 
>> I do know from looking at them some years ago that they’re very price
>> sensitive in the sense that the quality can vary significantly based on
>> what you pay. In other words, if you want nice ones they’re expensive. That
>> variable also comes into play based on if you want generic ones or ones
>> that are designed specifically for your car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers for
>> my W124.
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I do not agree with installing hubcap wheels on the later cars that came with 
bundts.  I like them on the earlier model 123s and 240s that came with them 
originally 

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123. It 
> has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies (I 
> have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend is 
> visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts are 
> beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes guy 
> (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s well 
> versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to aluminum 
> steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what Andrew’s opinion 
> is!
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Re: [MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s certainly a personal preference, but I think that steelies (or AL 
steelies) with the painted covers look so much more sophisticated for these 
cars, whether it’s a W123 or W114 or W108. I just think the colored wheel 
covers make a really nice accent, that’s all.

Just my $0.02.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123. It 
> has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies (I 
> have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend is 
> visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts are 
> beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes guy 
> (now BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s well 
> versed in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to aluminum 
> steelie with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what Andrew’s opinion 
> is!
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[MBZ] The New Klebmobile

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotta get it today!!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/898476947156467/

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[MBZ] To bundt or not to bundt

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I know we’ve had this conversation here before regarding my red 300D W123. It 
has bundts with failing paint which I plan to swap for aluminum steelies (I 
have already) with hubcaps (already got a set painted). So a good friend is 
visiting from the good ‘ol state of California and feels that the bundts are 
beautiful and unique and correct for the car. He used to be a Mercedes guy (now 
BMW) and our friendship began and blossomed over Mercedes so he’s well versed 
in these cars. I’m now starting to second guess the bundt to aluminum steelie 
with hubcap swap. Any thoughts? I already know what Andrew’s opinion is!

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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings Sunday. 
Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for another 50 
years, I’m guessing.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] I don't know what to say

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Praise the Lord and pass the plate?

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1962670730505371/
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[MBZ] someone needs this

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

and it isn't me... but

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/819826228402987/

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[MBZ] I don't know what to say

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1962670730505371/

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[MBZ] OT who does not want to be this guy?

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https://jalopnik.com/meet-the-guy-who-bought-a-monorail-for-1-000-1835842056

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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What, no calls from the IRS wanting their back taxes with your VISA card or 
they’re going to call the sheriff and have you arrested?

I love those. They’re so easy to mess with.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> We get a very persistent SS recording warning about fraud. on our account.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I use the NomoRobo service for the land line, and every time it gets a call 
> that’s bogus I report it. I kid you not, within a couple of weeks with 
> NomoRobo set up the calls stopped dead. It easily rang 3-4 times a day during 
> the week when I was working from home, and since I set up NomoRobo it never 
> rings.
> 
> I had a rash of those “This is Microsoft tech support - can you check your 
> computer? It’s got a virus” a few weeks ago, which I play out for a good 5-10 
> minutes if I can until they realize I’m yanking their chain and they yell 
> expletives and hang up. I recognized the accent of one caller and quickly 
> looked up a really, really offensive slur for their culture, which I used on 
> them and then hung up. They tried calling me back 2-3 times, which I didn’t 
> answer, of course. Guess I got them riled up.
> 
> Hee. Turnabout is fair play, folks.
> 
> But I do recommend NomoRobo. Don’t cost ‘nuthin and it’s easy to set up and 
> use. My experience with it has been great. I understand it can be used on 
> mobile lines as well.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Autodialers just go down the numbers and place calls, a lot of them spoof 
> > the inbound number.  I get 2-3/day that spoof my Houston number exchange, 
> > and others from Texas.  The land line probably gets 20 a day, a lot of them 
> > spoofed.  I got one a year or so ago from a friend's number, answered it (I 
> > never answer the land line, for some reason I was right by it when the call 
> > came in and saw the name) and it was some spam call.
> > 
> > I am going to run for Congress based on 2 platforms: 1) using the full 
> > capabilities of National Technical Means to find and eliminate spam callers 
> > wherever they are on the planet: and 2) to abolish Daylight Savings or 
> > Standard Time or whatever it is that makes the clocks change.  Everything 
> > else that Congress takes up can just happen without my involvement.
> > 
> > Back to topic, some guy needed a "diesel expert" for his 220D in the 
> > Louisville area, someone pointed him to this kid as the expert as he had 
> > changed the oil in this guy's car.
> > 
> > --FT

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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We get a very persistent SS recording warning about fraud. on our account.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I use the NomoRobo service for the land line, and every time it gets a
> call that’s bogus I report it. I kid you not, within a couple of weeks with
> NomoRobo set up the calls stopped dead. It easily rang 3-4 times a day
> during the week when I was working from home, and since I set up NomoRobo
> it never rings.
>
> I had a rash of those “This is Microsoft tech support - can you check your
> computer? It’s got a virus” a few weeks ago, which I play out for a good
> 5-10 minutes if I can until they realize I’m yanking their chain and they
> yell expletives and hang up. I recognized the accent of one caller and
> quickly looked up a really, really offensive slur for their culture, which
> I used on them and then hung up. They tried calling me back 2-3 times,
> which I didn’t answer, of course. Guess I got them riled up.
>
> Hee. Turnabout is fair play, folks.
>
> But I do recommend NomoRobo. Don’t cost ‘nuthin and it’s easy to set up
> and use. My experience with it has been great. I understand it can be used
> on mobile lines as well.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Autodialers just go down the numbers and place calls, a lot of them
> spoof the inbound number.  I get 2-3/day that spoof my Houston number
> exchange, and others from Texas.  The land line probably gets 20 a day, a
> lot of them spoofed.  I got one a year or so ago from a friend's number,
> answered it (I never answer the land line, for some reason I was right by
> it when the call came in and saw the name) and it was some spam call.
> >
> > I am going to run for Congress based on 2 platforms: 1) using the full
> capabilities of National Technical Means to find and eliminate spam callers
> wherever they are on the planet: and 2) to abolish Daylight Savings or
> Standard Time or whatever it is that makes the clocks change.  Everything
> else that Congress takes up can just happen without my involvement.
> >
> > Back to topic, some guy needed a "diesel expert" for his 220D in the
> Louisville area, someone pointed him to this kid as the expert as he had
> changed the oil in this guy's car.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 6/25/19 4:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 12:17:33 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser
> >>> based services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But
> >>> I block about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.
> >> Pi hole?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...
> >> A non-published phone number? Even if people know your name and your
> >> area, they cannot get the number from 411 Information, because the
> >> information operators do not have your number.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I use the NomoRobo service for the land line, and every time it gets a call 
that’s bogus I report it. I kid you not, within a couple of weeks with NomoRobo 
set up the calls stopped dead. It easily rang 3-4 times a day during the week 
when I was working from home, and since I set up NomoRobo it never rings.

I had a rash of those “This is Microsoft tech support - can you check your 
computer? It’s got a virus” a few weeks ago, which I play out for a good 5-10 
minutes if I can until they realize I’m yanking their chain and they yell 
expletives and hang up. I recognized the accent of one caller and quickly 
looked up a really, really offensive slur for their culture, which I used on 
them and then hung up. They tried calling me back 2-3 times, which I didn’t 
answer, of course. Guess I got them riled up.

Hee. Turnabout is fair play, folks.

But I do recommend NomoRobo. Don’t cost ‘nuthin and it’s easy to set up and 
use. My experience with it has been great. I understand it can be used on 
mobile lines as well.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Autodialers just go down the numbers and place calls, a lot of them spoof the 
> inbound number.  I get 2-3/day that spoof my Houston number exchange, and 
> others from Texas.  The land line probably gets 20 a day, a lot of them 
> spoofed.  I got one a year or so ago from a friend's number, answered it (I 
> never answer the land line, for some reason I was right by it when the call 
> came in and saw the name) and it was some spam call.
> 
> I am going to run for Congress based on 2 platforms: 1) using the full 
> capabilities of National Technical Means to find and eliminate spam callers 
> wherever they are on the planet: and 2) to abolish Daylight Savings or 
> Standard Time or whatever it is that makes the clocks change.  Everything 
> else that Congress takes up can just happen without my involvement.
> 
> Back to topic, some guy needed a "diesel expert" for his 220D in the 
> Louisville area, someone pointed him to this kid as the expert as he had 
> changed the oil in this guy's car.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/25/19 4:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 12:17:33 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser
>>> based services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But
>>> I block about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.
>> Pi hole?
>> 
>> 
>>> Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...
>> A non-published phone number? Even if people know your name and your
>> area, they cannot get the number from 411 Information, because the
>> information operators do not have your number.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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[MBZ] Very OT setting up a web/mail server on my own box

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I bought a domain and was thinking to set up a server like some of you 
have instead of just having it hosted by some outfit. Probably more than 
I want to do but can someone tell me what the basic process is to set up 
such a thing, email and some content to be served up?


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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Autodialers just go down the numbers and place calls, a lot of them 
spoof the inbound number.  I get 2-3/day that spoof my Houston number 
exchange, and others from Texas.  The land line probably gets 20 a day, 
a lot of them spoofed.  I got one a year or so ago from a friend's 
number, answered it (I never answer the land line, for some reason I was 
right by it when the call came in and saw the name) and it was some spam 
call.


I am going to run for Congress based on 2 platforms: 1) using the full 
capabilities of National Technical Means to find and eliminate spam 
callers wherever they are on the planet: and 2) to abolish Daylight 
Savings or Standard Time or whatever it is that makes the clocks 
change.  Everything else that Congress takes up can just happen without 
my involvement.


Back to topic, some guy needed a "diesel expert" for his 220D in the 
Louisville area, someone pointed him to this kid as the expert as he had 
changed the oil in this guy's car.


--FT

On 6/25/19 4:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 12:17:33 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:


Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser
based services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But
I block about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.

Pi hole?



Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...

A non-published phone number? Even if people know your name and your
area, they cannot get the number from 411 Information, because the
information operators do not have your number.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

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This should get u started:

https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-dnsmasq-d-instead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 2:03 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Hmm - are those ad server addresses listed somewhere on the web? I'd like
> to block them at the firewall (OK router now) also.
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser based
> > services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But I block
> > about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.
> >
> > Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 2:42 PM fmiser via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Craig says:
> > > > >
> > > > > I can select "Temporarily allow all this page."
> > >
> > > I rarely use that option.  I may have to reload the page 5-6 times
> > > but I add sites one or two at a time based on domain.  Often just
> > > the hosting domain and their "cds" (contend delivery system) is
> > > enough for the page to work.  There are times, though, that it
> > > takes a lot more to get basic functionality - like a link that can
> > > be clicked.
> > >
> > > > > Then I have scripts running from 35 - 45 different web sites.
> > >
> > > > Yup. I wish I had a better understanding of scripts and tracking
> > > > cookies and such.
> > >
> > > I actually have written javascript.  And HTML.  And CSS.  Always
> > > in Emacs (plain text editor).  I do NOT claim to understand it
> > > all, but I guess I mostly understand whats going on.  I have also
> > > used the extension "Stylish" to alter how a page is shown.  The
> > > one I'm thinking of right now is Ebay.  Without javascript, there
> > > is a partly opaque object over the whole page saying "you need
> > > javascript".  I change the size an position of that overlay so it
> > > no longer gets in the way.  Basic browsing in ebay works without
> > > javascript.
> > >
> > > I do mutter unkind thinks about the sites and people who wrote
> > > them that end up preventing me from reading and using the website
> > > as _I_ want to.  HTML and CSS alone will do 95% of what javascript
> > > is used for.  In addition, I have meter internet so I really don't
> > > like downloading up to 10 MB of javascript code just to follow links
> > > on the page. grr.
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I like how they use your exchange number to fool you into answering. Like if 
your number is 444-321-9034 they call you from a “321” exchange.

-D



> On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The problem these days is when they just call all 10,000 numbers on your 
> local exchange and see who answers.
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

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Yes they call them all but you can blacklist just like the internet.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 2:05 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On June 25, 2019 at 4:27 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> > Pi hole?
> >
> Raspberry Pi set up to do all your DNS lookups and send the garbage
> requests into neverneverland.
>
>
> > A non-published phone number?
>
> The problem these days is when they just call all 10,000 numbers on your
> local exchange and see who answers.
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Diesel vs. Electric

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I see all points, unlike you.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Andrew refuses to see the point, but continues to drive his dirty old
> diesel.
>
>
>
> On 25/06/2019 9:30 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > I think you missed the humor.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 10:29 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We are talking about emissions - not the attendant impacts of
> manufacture.
> >> If you expand the scope of this comparison then you must also consider
> the
> >> huge footprint of the fossil fuel extraction industry.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:03 AM fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
>  G wrote:
>  Equally, I raise the point that, nuclear, solar, geothermal,
>  wind, hydro, all come with their own set of environmental
>  impacts, which in some cases are extremely far reaching.
>  The main difference as I see it between Diesel and EV is simply
>  the poorly accounted long term impacts of the manufacture and
>  support of EV. The "emissions" are displaced away from the
>  vehicle, however, the environmental impacts are just as real,
>  perhaps more long lasting, [in some ] and give a false
>  indication of being "clean".
> >>> Well said, Grant.   Not "clean" vs "dirty" - it's more like trying
> >>> to compare apples and orangutans.  So different it can be twisted
> >>> any ol' way.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

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> On June 25, 2019 at 4:27 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> Pi hole?
> 
Raspberry Pi set up to do all your DNS lookups and send the garbage requests 
into neverneverland. 


> A non-published phone number? 

The problem these days is when they just call all 10,000 numbers on your local 
exchange and see who answers.

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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ah - I missed the convertible part - very true, though I never took one off
the pan.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You can do that with a regular (sedan) Beetle all day long. A convertible
> has larger frame box members on the sides of the pan to give it structural
> rigidity. Try and lift the convertible body off the pan and it folds up
> like a big German taco.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm - when I replaced the pan on my '51 VW bug with one from a '62 or
> '64
> > (don't remember for sure now), we just closed the doors, a guy on each
> > corner, and we just lifted it off and set on blocks until the newer pan
> was
> > ready (needed the front axle transplanted). Rinse a repeat to put it on
> the
> > prepared pan - no issues at all.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
> >> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between
> >> the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan
> without
> >> the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmm - are those ad server addresses listed somewhere on the web? I'd like
to block them at the firewall (OK router now) also.

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> Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser based
> services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But I block
> about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.
>
> Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 2:42 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > > Rick wrote:
> >
> > > > Craig says:
> > > >
> > > > I can select "Temporarily allow all this page."
> >
> > I rarely use that option.  I may have to reload the page 5-6 times
> > but I add sites one or two at a time based on domain.  Often just
> > the hosting domain and their "cds" (contend delivery system) is
> > enough for the page to work.  There are times, though, that it
> > takes a lot more to get basic functionality - like a link that can
> > be clicked.
> >
> > > > Then I have scripts running from 35 - 45 different web sites.
> >
> > > Yup. I wish I had a better understanding of scripts and tracking
> > > cookies and such.
> >
> > I actually have written javascript.  And HTML.  And CSS.  Always
> > in Emacs (plain text editor).  I do NOT claim to understand it
> > all, but I guess I mostly understand whats going on.  I have also
> > used the extension "Stylish" to alter how a page is shown.  The
> > one I'm thinking of right now is Ebay.  Without javascript, there
> > is a partly opaque object over the whole page saying "you need
> > javascript".  I change the size an position of that overlay so it
> > no longer gets in the way.  Basic browsing in ebay works without
> > javascript.
> >
> > I do mutter unkind thinks about the sites and people who wrote
> > them that end up preventing me from reading and using the website
> > as _I_ want to.  HTML and CSS alone will do 95% of what javascript
> > is used for.  In addition, I have meter internet so I really don't
> > like downloading up to 10 MB of javascript code just to follow links
> > on the page. grr.
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You can do that with a regular (sedan) Beetle all day long. A convertible has 
larger frame box members on the sides of the pan to give it structural 
rigidity. Try and lift the convertible body off the pan and it folds up like a 
big German taco.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm - when I replaced the pan on my '51 VW bug with one from a '62 or '64
> (don't remember for sure now), we just closed the doors, a guy on each
> corner, and we just lifted it off and set on blocks until the newer pan was
> ready (needed the front axle transplanted). Rinse a repeat to put it on the
> prepared pan - no issues at all.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
>> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between
>> the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan without
>> the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmmm - when I replaced the pan on my '51 VW bug with one from a '62 or '64
(don't remember for sure now), we just closed the doors, a guy on each
corner, and we just lifted it off and set on blocks until the newer pan was
ready (needed the front axle transplanted). Rinse a repeat to put it on the
prepared pan - no issues at all.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between
> the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan without
> the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.
>
> -D
>

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Dan said. I found that the cheap ones had artificial fleece on the
sides and back that turned orange over time. The good ones were 100% sheep
skin and aged/wore better.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I’ve had experience with them, but it’s secondary as they’ve come with
> cars I’ve owned. I’ve never bought a set myself.
>
> I do know from looking at them some years ago that they’re very price
> sensitive in the sense that the quality can vary significantly based on
> what you pay. In other words, if you want nice ones they’re expensive. That
> variable also comes into play based on if you want generic ones or ones
> that are designed specifically for your car.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers for
> my W124.
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Good Restoration Candidate

[MG via Mercedes]

been there done that. Only once though. Disconcerting. 
Embarrassing.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Also known on VWs of the era as “Automatic Stickshift”. Just don’t rest your 
hand on the shifter while you’re driving. Those who are familiar with these 
will know what I speak of….

-D







On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:


What  is hydrak? Hydraulic suspension?

Automatic clutch on a manual gearbox.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 12:17:33 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser
> based services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But
> I block about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.

Pi hole?


> Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...

A non-published phone number? Even if people know your name and your
area, they cannot get the number from 411 Information, because the
information operators do not have your number.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] My future $500GLS580

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On 25/06/2019 2:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

True bottom feeder material. after all the electrons escape from the
magic smoke boxes and it's only way home is via a roll back tow truck...
Question then is how do I make it work without all the electron smoke
boxes... you know... for really really cheeep?



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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We used to know a guy who was a retired detective from Miami PD that had a 
really nice 48 foot trimaran he would rent out for the week. He would crew it 
for us if we wanted, which is what we often did, as he knew the waters a lot 
better as well as the best places to dive. Saw a lot of really cool stuff in 
the water around there.

I always got a kick out of how different the coasts were. West coast was nice, 
calm beaches that sloped off to some decent depths with lots of clear water. 
Some good wrecks and reefs to dove on. East coast was rocky and rough - the 
locals tossed their trash out on that side of the island as it would get beat 
and hauled out to sea.

We were walking down the street one evening in Oranjestad after dinner and saw 
a big commotion in front of a store. Seems that the newest wringer washers had 
just arrived and a couple of the local women were all worked up about it (this 
was in the mid 1980s.) They had some of these things in the store window. We 
were amazed.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We were always windsurfing.  I wore long sleeve water shirts and running 
> tights, lots of grease on exposed surfaces.  Never really got burned and I 
> turn red when I turn on a ceiling light.  I recall renting a car a coupla 
> times so we could putter around the island.  One of the kids at the windsurf 
> place we stayed had an old Russian Lada 4x4 jeep kind of thing, completely 
> beat to hell but he said it was unstoppable, and I think another one had one 
> of the chopped old merkin cars.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/25/19 3:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we 
>> stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab 
>> one and go into Oranjestad at your leisure.
>> 
>> Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all 
>> day and ended up doing the lobster thing. Not pleasant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We went to Aruba a few times back when, there were a few old merkin rides 
>>> around, big ol 4 doors like Oldsmobiles and whatnot. They had the tops 
>>> chopped off and doors welded shut and were "roadsters."  But they still 
>>> shook like crazy.  Rain?  No problem!  The water just drained through the 
>>> rusted out floor pans!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My future $500GLS580

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

They will still want like $5k for an EMPed example, because it is a 
Merzaydeez, easy fix just don't have the time...


--FT

On 6/25/19 3:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

True bottom feeder material. after all the electrons escape from the
magic smoke boxes and it's only way home is via a roll back tow truck...
Question then is how do I make it work without all the electron smoke
boxes... you know... for really really cheeep?

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


When all the electronics are toast


https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-mercedes-benz-gls-has-impossible-shoes-to-fill-1835419693

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Re: [MBZ] My future $500GLS580

[G Mann via Mercedes]

True bottom feeder material. after all the electrons escape from the
magic smoke boxes and it's only way home is via a roll back tow truck...
Question then is how do I make it work without all the electron smoke
boxes... you know... for really really cheeep?

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> When all the electronics are toast
>
>
> https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-mercedes-benz-gls-has-impossible-shoes-to-fill-1835419693
>
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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I was living in the GWN at the time.

I used to try and plan my business trips to Central America in the winter. I 
went to Panama one time and during the trip spent a day on my customer’s 60’ 
Hatteras. Walk into the office the next week in the dead of January with a 
blazing sunburn, beet red.

I was not popular, nor did I get any sympathy.

It was still fun.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 25/06/2019 2:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we 
>> stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab 
>> one and go into Oranjestad at your leisure.
>> 
>> Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all 
>> day and ended up doing the lobster thing. Not pleasant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> So, could you spread it on thickly enough to act as body armour if you fell 
> off the scooter?
> 
> Besides, you folks from Florida should be tanned enough not to get burned 
> like those of us from the GWN.
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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We were always windsurfing.  I wore long sleeve water shirts and running 
tights, lots of grease on exposed surfaces.  Never really got burned and 
I turn red when I turn on a ceiling light.  I recall renting a car a 
coupla times so we could putter around the island.  One of the kids at 
the windsurf place we stayed had an old Russian Lada 4x4 jeep kind of 
thing, completely beat to hell but he said it was unstoppable, and I 
think another one had one of the chopped old merkin cars.


--FT

On 6/25/19 3:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we 
stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab one 
and go into Oranjestad at your leisure.

Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all day 
and ended up doing the lobster thing. Not pleasant.

-D



On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

We went to Aruba a few times back when, there were a few old merkin rides around, big ol 
4 doors like Oldsmobiles and whatnot. They had the tops chopped off and doors welded shut 
and were "roadsters."  But they still shook like crazy.  Rain?  No problem!  
The water just drained through the rusted out floor pans!

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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On 25/06/2019 2:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we 
stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab one 
and go into Oranjestad at your leisure.

Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all day 
and ended up doing the lobster thing. Not pleasant.

-D


So, could you spread it on thickly enough to act as body armour if you 
fell off the scooter?


Besides, you folks from Florida should be tanned enough not to get 
burned like those of us from the GWN.



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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

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I remember, "Come to Lowell!  It's a Riot!" after some sort of civil 
mayhem over something I don't recall.


--FT

On 6/25/19 3:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Worst was by my old office in Lowell. They didn't bother to stock some of the 
items on shelves, just wheeled boxes into the aisle, cut off the top and let 
the mob pick it to death.Horrifying...
-Curt

 On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 2:49:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  On 25/06/2019 1:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Darwin Award runner up material.

Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should be
a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...


Your WalMarts must be worse than ours. I seldom go there but if I do, I
don't see the sorts of things that you folks appear to.

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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we 
stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab 
one and go into Oranjestad at your leisure.

Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all day 
and ended up doing the lobster thing. Not pleasant.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We went to Aruba a few times back when, there were a few old merkin rides 
> around, big ol 4 doors like Oldsmobiles and whatnot. They had the tops 
> chopped off and doors welded shut and were "roadsters."  But they still shook 
> like crazy.  Rain?  No problem!  The water just drained through the rusted 
> out floor pans!
> 
> --FT
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Worst was by my old office in Lowell. They didn't bother to stock some of the 
items on shelves, just wheeled boxes into the aisle, cut off the top and let 
the mob pick it to death.Horrifying...
-Curt

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 2:49:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 25/06/2019 1:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Darwin Award runner up material.
>
> Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should be
> a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
> and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...
>
Your WalMarts must be worse than ours. I seldom go there but if I do, I 
don't see the sorts of things that you folks appear to.

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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

We went to Aruba a few times back when, there were a few old merkin 
rides around, big ol 4 doors like Oldsmobiles and whatnot. They had the 
tops chopped off and doors welded shut and were "roadsters."  But they 
still shook like crazy.  Rain?  No problem!  The water just drained 
through the rusted out floor pans!


--FT

On 6/25/19 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 25/06/2019 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:


Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a
convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof,
you don't need doors.

Now that sounds like good advice for the group!  :-)


Craig



Tell them there is a difference between a "drop top" and a "chop top".


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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There was some overlap in 71 between the “standard” Beetle and the Super 
Beetle. This was a “standard” Beetle with the flat windshield.

The pictures in the shop are in a now defunct carriage builder’s shop that was 
built in the 1870s in Sheboygan, WI. The guy that did the restoration body work 
was a third or fourth generation German whose great-great-great grandfather 
built the building. My guy was a artist. Absolute perfectionist.

-D

 
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 25/06/2019 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Only these that I have scanned.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html 
>> 
>> There are more somewhere but they haven’t been scanned.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
> Hard to tell from the photos. Does the 71 still have the flat windshield?
> 
> We were visiting some folks once a number of years back and they had a coffee 
> table with a glass insert in the top.
> 
> The insert was unusual as it was not symmetrical. The answer to my question 
> about it, was that it was the windshield out of a VW.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had enough of the 123 fakebook

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Pi hole. Raspberry pi. Blacklist type ad blocker. There are browser based
services like nxfilter that work well, and the Brave browser. But I block
about 30k ad server websites at the firewall.

Now I need a call blocker for the telephone...

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 2:42 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Rick wrote:
>
> > > Craig says:
> > >
> > > I can select "Temporarily allow all this page."
>
> I rarely use that option.  I may have to reload the page 5-6 times
> but I add sites one or two at a time based on domain.  Often just
> the hosting domain and their "cds" (contend delivery system) is
> enough for the page to work.  There are times, though, that it
> takes a lot more to get basic functionality - like a link that can
> be clicked.
>
> > > Then I have scripts running from 35 - 45 different web sites.
>
> > Yup. I wish I had a better understanding of scripts and tracking
> > cookies and such.
>
> I actually have written javascript.  And HTML.  And CSS.  Always
> in Emacs (plain text editor).  I do NOT claim to understand it
> all, but I guess I mostly understand whats going on.  I have also
> used the extension "Stylish" to alter how a page is shown.  The
> one I'm thinking of right now is Ebay.  Without javascript, there
> is a partly opaque object over the whole page saying "you need
> javascript".  I change the size an position of that overlay so it
> no longer gets in the way.  Basic browsing in ebay works without
> javascript.
>
> I do mutter unkind thinks about the sites and people who wrote
> them that end up preventing me from reading and using the website
> as _I_ want to.  HTML and CSS alone will do 95% of what javascript
> is used for.  In addition, I have meter internet so I really don't
> like downloading up to 10 MB of javascript code just to follow links
> on the page. grr.
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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On 25/06/2019 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Only these that I have scanned.

http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html 

There are more somewhere but they haven’t been scanned.

-D



Hard to tell from the photos. Does the 71 still have the flat windshield?

We were visiting some folks once a number of years back and they had a 
coffee table with a glass insert in the top.


The insert was unusual as it was not symmetrical. The answer to my 
question about it, was that it was the windshield out of a VW.



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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Only these that I have scanned.

http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html 

There are more somewhere but they haven’t been scanned.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:50:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
>> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body
>> between the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the
>> pan without the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.
> 
> Any pictures of the process and the result?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:50:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body
> shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body
> between the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the
> pan without the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.

Any pictures of the process and the result?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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On 25/06/2019 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:


Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a
convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof,
you don't need doors.

Now that sounds like good advice for the group!  :-)


Craig



Tell them there is a difference between a "drop top" and a "chop top".


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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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On 25/06/2019 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:


Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a
convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof,
you don't need doors.

Now that sounds like good advice for the group!  :-)


Craig

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speculate about what he would do if we sneeked out and welded the doors 
shut on his car.




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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

[G Mann via Mercedes]

In this city of 4.5 million, in the WalMart stores, Victoria has no
secrets...
YMMV...

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 25/06/2019 1:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Darwin Award runner up material.
> >
> > Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should
> be
> > a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
> > and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...
> >
> Your WalMarts must be worse than ours. I seldom go there but if I do, I
> don't see the sorts of things that you folks appear to.
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body shop 
welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between the door 
pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan without the body 
“folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a 
>> convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, 
>> you don't need doors.
> 
> Now that sounds like good advice for the group!  :-)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

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On 25/06/2019 1:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Darwin Award runner up material.

Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should be
a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...

Your WalMarts must be worse than ours. I seldom go there but if I do, I 
don't see the sorts of things that you folks appear to.


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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a 
> convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, 
> you don't need doors.

Now that sounds like good advice for the group!  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Darwin Award runner up material.

Amazing thing is, people who do stupid things reproduce more. Should be
a Doctoral Thesis on that... but then, you would have to live among them
and study them. Wait.. I already do... just shop at WalMart...

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey y’all ho mah beer n watchiss
>
> Hatfield occasionally took the snake out to kiss it on the mouth, but on
> Saturday, the snake decided to end the relationship.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a 
convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, 
you don't need doors.



On 25/06/2019 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a big 
metal taco.

-D



On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:


I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as soon as the 
roof is cut off.

You can't _just_ cut the roof off.  Our W114 250C has the roof cut off.  There 
are also huge
pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Diesel vs. Electric

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Andrew refuses to see the point, but continues to drive his dirty old 
diesel.




On 25/06/2019 9:30 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

I think you missed the humor.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 10:29 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


We are talking about emissions - not the attendant impacts of manufacture.
If you expand the scope of this comparison then you must also consider the
huge footprint of the fossil fuel extraction industry.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:03 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
G wrote:
Equally, I raise the point that, nuclear, solar, geothermal,
wind, hydro, all come with their own set of environmental
impacts, which in some cases are extremely far reaching.
The main difference as I see it between Diesel and EV is simply
the poorly accounted long term impacts of the manufacture and
support of EV. The "emissions" are displaced away from the
vehicle, however, the environmental impacts are just as real,
perhaps more long lasting, [in some ] and give a false
indication of being "clean".

Well said, Grant.   Not "clean" vs "dirty" - it's more like trying
to compare apples and orangutans.  So different it can be twisted
any ol' way.

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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 24/06/2019 6:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers for my W124.

Bob R

  


Poach a few sheep from a sheep farm and make your own?


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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy 'Bama 560 SEC

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's the BaT lising, right?  I saw that and thought that it is 
certainly unique but the lower cladding color just doesn't go with the 
red.  It needs to be something else but I can't figure out what.  But it 
is nice.


I'm thinking this $1200 560SEC I looked at would be a better deal...

--FT

On 6/25/19 10:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Signal red but appears to be English red. Yikes.  Probably out of Rich's
price range (currently $8 k and climbing) but might be worth the expense if
he is attempting to corner the market.
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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Startpage is your friend.


https://www.startpage.com/do/search?abp=1=v1all=web=english=process_search=Mercedes+wool+seat+covers=0=1=air

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[MBZ] OT “Florida Man” strikes, er, stricken, again

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Hey y’all ho mah beer n watchiss 

Hatfield occasionally took the snake out to kiss it on the mouth, but on 
Saturday, the snake decided to end the relationship.

https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/04/22/florida-man-tries-kiss-cottonmouth-snake-hospitalized-bite/

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve had experience with them, but it’s secondary as they’ve come with cars 
I’ve owned. I’ve never bought a set myself.

I do know from looking at them some years ago that they’re very price sensitive 
in the sense that the quality can vary significantly based on what you pay. In 
other words, if you want nice ones they’re expensive. That variable also comes 
into play based on if you want generic ones or ones that are designed 
specifically for your car.

-D

 
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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> W124. 
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Re: [MBZ] Seat covers

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On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> What say ye...the best, realistically priced sheepskin seat covers for
> my W124. 

Sorry, Bob, you have had no answers, but I have no experience with
sheepskin covers.

Perhaps someone else will chime in.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Why?

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:07:58 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-used-parts-sale-wanted/386988-fs-cat-1r-7050-fuel-filter-upgrade-kits-om61x.html


Today, 07:21 AM
Michaelesh
Registered User

What is the purpose of the replacement kit? Is there a fault with the OE
system? Thanks 



Perhaps he wants to be able to use the same filter as his farm tractor or
semi tractor


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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely.

“Hey Bubba, watch this!”

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> But it will be fun to watch if the record it ...
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a
>> big metal taco.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as
>> soon as the roof is cut off.
>>> 
>>> You can't _just_ cut the roof off.  Our W114 250C has the roof cut off.
>> There are also huge
>>> pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

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But it will be fun to watch if the record it ...

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a
> big metal taco.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as
> soon as the roof is cut off.
> >
> > You can't _just_ cut the roof off.  Our W114 250C has the roof cut off.
> There are also huge
> > pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
> >
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OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a big 
metal taco.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as soon as 
>> the roof is cut off.
> 
> You can't _just_ cut the roof off.  Our W114 250C has the roof cut off.  
> There are also huge
> pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as soon as 
> the roof is cut off.

You can't _just_ cut the roof off.  Our W114 250C has the roof cut off.  There 
are also huge
pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Why?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Why?  Beats me.  When I got a load of crap fuel (300SD 617) the tank strainer 
plugged up before either filter.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:08 AM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: [MBZ] Why?
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-used-parts-sale-
> wanted/386988-fs-cat-1r-7050-fuel-filter-upgrade-kits-om61x.html
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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