Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, What does the cloud key do?  I have three ubiquiti access points that I 
manage from one PC.  What added capability does cloud key provide?  I find 
ubiquiti equipment is much better than their documentation.  Scott

> -Original Message-
> From:  Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> 
> I put in a ubiquiti network at home with a cloud key, security gateway, a poe
> switch for the cameras (DVR is in the cloud key), a couple of wifi access 
> points.
> Seems to work great. Best part is the app where I can block and unblock every
> client on the network individually. I pi-holed all the ad sites at the 
> firewall so
> they just get rejected. But the more ipad clients I block, the more books get
> read by everyone, and the happier we all are. I have been putting off getting 
> a
> short throw DLP and may just put it off indefinitely. We have no TV currently.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 11/13/19 11:23 AM:
OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam 
calls, and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more 
than it costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they 
have a special bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less 
than I am paying now, and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I 
am paying now for the internet portion of my service, and would be 
less than internet service alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. 
And they have some new spam blocker you can activate so I did that. 
It's worth a 15min call (even with all the impediments to getting a 
real person) to save $45/month.


So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street 
Journal much any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just 
keep the digital subscription to read it on the app and online. But 
they have a 6month bundle of print+digital, available to existing 
subscribers, that is less than half what I am paying now for both, and 
is less than just the digital subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!


So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. 
Reasonable return on my time I guess.





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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://www.tablotv.com

It’s a device that acts as a TV tuner and DVR (with an external hard drive) 
that for over the air broadcast TV.

I live less than 2 miles from the major antenna farm in the Tampa area, so I 
can get nearly every terrestrial station that’s broadcast in the area, around 
70 channels, although only about half of them are even remotely worht watching.

I bought a dual refurb for like $70, I think. Works great.

-D


> On Nov 13, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> One of the main reasons I Not done this is due to DVR. So what is the tablo? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cut the cord on cable last month. Went from $220/month for 
>> phone/cable/Internet (undiscounted costs as we just went out of contract) 
>> down to a little over $100/month for nearly the same content, and no more 
>> land line.
>> 
>> $60/month Internet (100/100)
>> $50/month YouTube TV
>> $5/month Tablo DVR
>> 
>> This gives us a boatload of content through YouTube TV, over the air 
>> broadcasts with DVR functionality with the Tablo (also a feature of YTTV), 
>> and through various free applications like Pluto TV (400+ free channels).
>> 
>> There’s minimal competition in this market, so if you want to pull the plug 
>> on your provider they just shrug their shoulders and tell you “Bye!” No 
>> effort for retention.
>> 
>> Along with using Spectrum (Charter) for cable, we also moved from Verizon 
>> ($200/month for 4 lines) to Spectrum ($56/month for 4 lines) for our 
>> cellular service. Spectrum piggybacks on Verizon, so coverage is the same.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam calls, 
>>> and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than it 
>>> costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a special 
>>> bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am paying now, 
>>> and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now for the 
>>> internet portion of my service, and would be less than internet service 
>>> alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some new spam 
>>> blocker you can activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call (even with 
>>> all the impediments to getting a real person) to save $45/month.
>>> 
>>> So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal 
>>> much any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the 
>>> digital subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a 
>>> 6month bundle of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that is 
>>> less than half what I am paying now for both, and is less than just the 
>>> digital subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
>>> 
>>> So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. Reasonable 
>>> return on my time I guess.
>>> 
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[MBZ] Even as nice as this is I don’t see it being this kind of money

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3120774367992538/


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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Diesels put out less co2 than gas motors. That is the only reason they are
still sold in europe, because they have co2 emissions standards to comply
with. The CEO of Daimler has said that CO2 emissions are the reason diesels
will continue to be offered in the lineup for some time. So I dont think it
is true that diesels are blamed for climate change. And Mercedes is not
stopping diesel production due to climate concerns. Quite the opposite.

It has been suggested that this is the wrong list for climate change
discussion, and I agree. Climate change has nothing to do with why I am on
the list and sorting through this non-topical content is a waste of my
time, whether I agree with what is being posted or not. If I want to debate
that stuff, I will subscribe to a climate change list.

My $0.02

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 3:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes content.
> While having nothing to do with politics.
> It is:
> The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public has
> had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
> are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
> be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued into
> the whole "global warming argument"...
> The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of future
> designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
> shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
> "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
> forums.
>
> As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
> at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
> Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
> scientific investigation, it seems.
> Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was both
> flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better discussed
> elsewhere].
>
> Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
> what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them running
> and supported.
>
> Respectfully,
> G.Mann
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That would be an illegal kickback subject to RICO.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 3:13 PM Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yea, which I should split 70/30 with poos.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We need to start a Go Fund Me campaign to assure that Dan remains as
> > the
> > > > list dad.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> I’m being preemptive. Don’t like it?
> > > >>> You’re welcome to take over the responsibilities of running the
> list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ugh. No thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> Rick
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] I think the tensioner on the AZ bob car might have let loose again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Remind me again what you did there. Did you JB weld it, lock tight? I can’t 
remember 

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> On Nov 13, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, shit. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My dad has the car and he said he was driving it to the VA yesterday and 
>> half way there it didn’t sound right. He went to VA and came back out and it 
>> wouldn’t start, battery dead. Said belt was real loose. I suspect the 
>> tensioner bolt came out again from when AZ bob fixed it. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

One of the main reasons I Not done this is due to DVR. So what is the tablo? 

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> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cut the cord on cable last month. Went from $220/month for 
> phone/cable/Internet (undiscounted costs as we just went out of contract) 
> down to a little over $100/month for nearly the same content, and no more 
> land line.
> 
> $60/month Internet (100/100)
> $50/month YouTube TV
> $5/month Tablo DVR
> 
> This gives us a boatload of content through YouTube TV, over the air 
> broadcasts with DVR functionality with the Tablo (also a feature of YTTV), 
> and through various free applications like Pluto TV (400+ free channels).
> 
> There’s minimal competition in this market, so if you want to pull the plug 
> on your provider they just shrug their shoulders and tell you “Bye!” No 
> effort for retention.
> 
> Along with using Spectrum (Charter) for cable, we also moved from Verizon 
> ($200/month for 4 lines) to Spectrum ($56/month for 4 lines) for our cellular 
> service. Spectrum piggybacks on Verizon, so coverage is the same.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam calls, 
>> and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than it costs 
>> as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a special bundle 
>> (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am paying now, and the 
>> total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now for the internet 
>> portion of my service, and would be less than internet service alone. Go 
>> figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some new spam blocker you can 
>> activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call (even with all the 
>> impediments to getting a real person) to save $45/month.
>> 
>> So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal much 
>> any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the digital 
>> subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a 6month bundle 
>> of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that is less than half 
>> what I am paying now for both, and is less than just the digital 
>> subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
>> 
>> So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. Reasonable 
>> return on my time I guess.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea wait till the 1 or 2 year promo period ends with Att 

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> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam calls, 
> and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than it costs 
> as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a special bundle 
> (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am paying now, and the 
> total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now for the internet portion 
> of my service, and would be less than internet service alone. Go figure. So I 
> signed up for that. And they have some new spam blocker you can activate so I 
> did that. It's worth a 15min call (even with all the impediments to getting a 
> real person) to save $45/month.
> 
> So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal much 
> any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the digital 
> subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a 6month bundle 
> of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that is less than half 
> what I am paying now for both, and is less than just the digital 
> subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
> 
> So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. Reasonable 
> return on my time I guess.
> 
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> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML500 still no cranky

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

A NSS is a thing of the past that this car won’t have. 

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> On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Neutral safety switch? Interlock to prevent the engine from starting if the 
> computer does not think it is in neutral?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 12/11/2019 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'd start with the starter, checking connections, including the engine 
>> ground strap. One day The White Whale ('87 300TD) failed to crank over, just 
>> a click from the starter solenoid. At some point in the diagnosis, I decided 
>> to make sure the engine wasn't locked up, so I crawled underneath and put 
>> the wrench on the crankshaft and... I could not turn it by hand! I was 
>> flabbergasted. I was having a hard time accepting that the engine was locked 
>> up, so I decided to pull the starter and get that tested.
>>  So'nuf, bad starter had "locked" the engine, and all was right again in the 
>> world once I had a new starter in place.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think the tensioner on the AZ bob car might have let loose again

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Well, shit. 

Bob R

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> On Nov 13, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My dad has the car and he said he was driving it to the VA yesterday and 
> half way there it didn’t sound right. He went to VA and came back out and it 
> wouldn’t start, battery dead. Said belt was real loose. I suspect the 
> tensioner bolt came out again from when AZ bob fixed it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:58:46 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Damn... I love this group... thanks for sharing and educating.  My
> personal goal to learn a bit more each day of living has been satisfied
> via this exchange...

Thank you.


> I would write more, but the sunshine is drifting on the driveway yet
> again

Some people have it rough!  :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] I think the tensioner on the AZ bob car might have let loose again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My dad has the car and he said he was driving it to the VA yesterday and half 
way there it didn’t sound right. He went to VA and came back out and it 
wouldn’t start, battery dead. Said belt was real loose. I suspect the tensioner 
bolt came out again from when AZ bob fixed it. 

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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Damn... I love this group... thanks for sharing and educating.  My personal
goal to learn a bit more each day of living has been satisfied via this
exchange...

I would write more, but the sunshine is drifting on the driveway yet
again

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:56 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was being sarcastic. Sorry Craig.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.
> >
> > It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
> > the word correctly.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > > > germane
> > > >  adj.
> > > >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> > > >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> > > >  Closely akin; german.
> > > >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Germane
> > > >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> > > >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > > > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > > > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > > > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14
> hydride.
> > > >
> > > >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > > > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > > > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set
> the
> > > >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > > > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > > > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Germain
> > > > See also: germain and gèrmain
> > > >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > > > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > germain
> > > >English
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >  Obsolete form of germane.
> > > >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > > > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > > > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > > > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > > > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > > > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> > > >
> > > >French
> > > >  Etymology 1
> > > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural
> germains,
> > > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > > >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> > > >
> > > >  Etymology 2
> > > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural
> germains,
> > > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > > >1. Germanic, German
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > gèrmain
> > > >  Norman
> > > >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > > > germānus. Adjective
> > > >gèrmain m
> > > >1. (Jersey) german
> > > >  Derived terms
> > > >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Actually it only discounted one of the items but still that was a 
reasonable amount


--FT

On 11/13/19 4:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Heh. Insider knowledge.

You’re welcome.

-D


On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

WHOA!!! It worked!

thankyouverrrymuch

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On 11/13/19 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Try COUPON25

-D



On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

The coupons don't apply to these parts, unfortunately, I tried...

--FT

On 11/13/19 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Advance has Litens. I posted that once already. Perhaps the dealer is cheaper, 
I don't know. Advance does have 25% off coupon codes.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 13, 2019 1:21 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

I think Litens is OEM.

Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not scrimp 
on. I only use Continental for belts.

-D


On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip in the 
car.

I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some cheepcheepchit, 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/

$5 for a pulley 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ but 
the MB is $41.

A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is no 
good.


Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB

ACDelco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Dayco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Advance Auto have

Febi 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P

Litens 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P

for basically the same price and shipping time.

So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???


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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I was being sarcastic. Sorry Craig.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.
>
> It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
> the word correctly.
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > > germane
> > >  adj.
> > >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> > >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> > >  Closely akin; german.
> > >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> > >
> > >
> > > Germane
> > >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> > >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> > >
> > >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> > >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> > >
> > >
> > > Germain
> > > See also: germain and gèrmain
> > >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> > >
> > >
> > > germain
> > >English
> > >  Adjective
> > >  Obsolete form of germane.
> > >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> > >
> > >French
> > >  Etymology 1
> > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> > >  Adjective
> > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> > >
> > >  Etymology 2
> > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> > >  Adjective
> > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > >1. Germanic, German
> > >
> > >
> > > gèrmain
> > >  Norman
> > >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > > germānus. Adjective
> > >gèrmain m
> > >1. (Jersey) german
> > >  Derived terms
> > >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:47:07 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Not that it wasn't interesting.

Thanks. Having had friends who worked in the semiconductor industry,
I had heard of silane and germane and their extreme toxicity.


Craig

> On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > germane
> >  adj.
> >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> >  Closely akin; german.
> >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> >
> >
> > Germane
> >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> >
> >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> >
> >
> > Germain
> > See also: germain and gèrmain
> >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> >
> >
> > germain
> >English
> >  Adjective
> >  Obsolete form of germane.
> >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> >
> >French
> >  Etymology 1
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> >
> >  Etymology 2
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. Germanic, German
> >
> >
> > gèrmain
> >  Norman
> >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > germānus. Adjective
> >gèrmain m
> >1. (Jersey) german
> >  Derived terms
> >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.

It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
the word correctly.

Craig

 
> On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > germane
> >  adj.
> >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> >  Closely akin; german.
> >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> >
> >
> > Germane
> >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> >
> >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> >
> >
> > Germain
> > See also: germain and gèrmain
> >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> >
> >
> > germain
> >English
> >  Adjective
> >  Obsolete form of germane.
> >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> >
> >French
> >  Etymology 1
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> >
> >  Etymology 2
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. Germanic, German
> >
> >
> > gèrmain
> >  Norman
> >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > germānus. Adjective
> >gèrmain m
> >1. (Jersey) german
> >  Derived terms
> >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not that it wasn't interesting.

Randy

On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:


Probably more germain than germane.

germane
 adj.
 Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
  discussion. synonym: relevant.
 Closely akin; german.
 Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
 Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
 germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
 and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
 compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
 to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

 Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
 toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
 Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
 occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
 time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
 622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
 Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
   French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.


germain
   English
 Adjective
 Obsolete form of germane.
   Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
   Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
   the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
   of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
   the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
   G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

   French
 Etymology 1
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. german (having the same mother and father)

 Etymology 2
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
 Norman
   Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   gèrmain m
   1. (Jersey) german
 Derived terms
   couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.

Randy


On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:


Probably more germain than germane.

germane
 adj.
 Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
  discussion. synonym: relevant.
 Closely akin; german.
 Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
 Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
 germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
 and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
 compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
 to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

 Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
 toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
 Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
 occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
 time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
 622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
 Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
   French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.


germain
   English
 Adjective
 Obsolete form of germane.
   Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
   Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
   the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
   of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
   the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
   G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

   French
 Etymology 1
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. german (having the same mother and father)

 Etymology 2
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
 Norman
   Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   gèrmain m
   1. (Jersey) german
 Derived terms
   couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Probably more germain than germane.

germane
adj.
Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
 discussion. synonym: relevant.
Closely akin; german.
Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
  French one; or from an ethnic term for a German. 


germain
  English
Adjective
Obsolete form of germane.
  Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
  Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
  the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
  of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
  the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
  G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

  French
Etymology 1
  From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
Adjective
  germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
feminine plural germaines)
  1. german (having the same mother and father)

Etymology 2
  From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
Adjective
  germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
feminine plural germaines)
  1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
Norman
  Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
Adjective
  gèrmain m
  1. (Jersey) german
Derived terms
  couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh. Insider knowledge.

You’re welcome.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WHOA!!! It worked!
> 
> thankyouverrrymuch
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/13/19 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Try COUPON25
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The coupons don't apply to these parts, unfortunately, I tried...
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 11/13/19 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
 Advance has Litens. I posted that once already. Perhaps the dealer is 
 cheaper, I don't know. Advance does have 25% off coupon codes.
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: November 13, 2019 1:21 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: d...@penoff.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?
 
 I think Litens is OEM.
 
 Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not 
 scrimp on. I only use Continental for belts.
 
 -D
 
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
> something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip 
> in the car.
> 
> I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some 
> cheepcheepchit, 
> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/
> 
> $5 for a pulley 
> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/
>  but the MB is $41.
> 
> A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is 
> no good.
> 
> 
> Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB
> 
> ACDelco 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
> 
> Dayco 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
> 
> Advance Auto have
> 
> Febi 
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P
> 
> Litens 
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P
> 
> for basically the same price and shipping time.
> 
> So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

WHOA!!! It worked!

thankyouverrrymuch

--FT

On 11/13/19 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Try COUPON25

-D



On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

The coupons don't apply to these parts, unfortunately, I tried...

--FT

On 11/13/19 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Advance has Litens. I posted that once already. Perhaps the dealer is cheaper, 
I don't know. Advance does have 25% off coupon codes.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 13, 2019 1:21 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

I think Litens is OEM.

Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not scrimp 
on. I only use Continental for belts.

-D


On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip in the 
car.

I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some cheepcheepchit, 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/

$5 for a pulley 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ but 
the MB is $41.

A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is no 
good.


Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB

ACDelco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Dayco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Advance Auto have

Febi 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P

Litens 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P

for basically the same price and shipping time.

So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???


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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Try COUPON25

-D


> On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The coupons don't apply to these parts, unfortunately, I tried...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/13/19 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> Advance has Litens. I posted that once already. Perhaps the dealer is 
>> cheaper, I don't know. Advance does have 25% off coupon codes.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: November 13, 2019 1:21 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?
>> 
>> I think Litens is OEM.
>> 
>> Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not 
>> scrimp on. I only use Continental for belts.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
>>> something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip in 
>>> the car.
>>> 
>>> I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some 
>>> cheepcheepchit, 
>>> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/
>>> 
>>> $5 for a pulley 
>>> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ 
>>> but the MB is $41.
>>> 
>>> A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is 
>>> no good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB
>>> 
>>> ACDelco 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
>>> 
>>> Dayco 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
>>> 
>>> Advance Auto have
>>> 
>>> Febi 
>>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P
>>> 
>>> Litens 
>>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P
>>> 
>>> for basically the same price and shipping time.
>>> 
>>> So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

*https://tinyurl.com/wma8qd7*

Come on up north!

Randy

On 13/11/2019 3:03 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

“yota highlander to replace the 20 year old jeep.

This months weather is messed up and the main roads would be I-80 or I-90 for 
distance.  Probable best course is I-40 or I-10 to avoid the blizzards, and 
drive up I-5 out of Kali.  Same bad issues the hauler faces for a road tripping 
event.

clay



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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Guenther Schwab, an Austrian, aligned himself with a group that best matched 
his conservationist beliefs in the 1920’s.  Deep into blood and soil being 
bonded and radical environmental thought.  He wrote a book in 1958, "Dance with 
the Devil”.  It preached about rising CO2 and became the guide book for the 
Climate Change socialists.  An inconvenient truth is that a TN senator became 
enthralled by his theories, the same as the guy who wrote a book about “His 
Struggles”, 80 years before.  There were many other fellow travelers over the 
last century and more espousing radical ideals, Marx, Lenin, and bleating sheep 
following along.  Much like the coal rollers with holes in their hoods that 
make Pierre unhappy

clay

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 6:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Discussions on climate change are indirectly automotive in nature as cars are 
> blamed for it. The question I keep asking those who preach that climate 
> change is man-made is why are the polar ice caps on Mars melting? I never get 
> an answer. As far as I’m concerned, melting Martian polar ice caps is all the 
> evidence I need to believe that man-made climate change is a complete and 
> utter sham.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

My brother in law covers an area that encompasses Iowa, Illinois, parts of 
northern KY and southern IN. He has a Toyota Highlander that has over 300k on 
the clock and swears by it. Says it’s never failed him or left him stranded.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:03 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> “yota highlander to replace the 20 year old jeep.  
> 
> This months weather is messed up and the main roads would be I-80 or I-90 for 
> distance.  Probable best course is I-40 or I-10 to avoid the blizzards, and 
> drive up I-5 out of Kali.  Same bad issues the hauler faces for a road 
> tripping event.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What kind of vehicle?  Road trip!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

“yota highlander to replace the 20 year old jeep.  

This months weather is messed up and the main roads would be I-80 or I-90 for 
distance.  Probable best course is I-40 or I-10 to avoid the blizzards, and 
drive up I-5 out of Kali.  Same bad issues the hauler faces for a road tripping 
event.

clay

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What kind of vehicle?  Road trip!


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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The coupons don't apply to these parts, unfortunately, I tried...

--FT

On 11/13/19 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Advance has Litens. I posted that once already. Perhaps the dealer is cheaper, 
I don't know. Advance does have 25% off coupon codes.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 13, 2019 1:21 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

I think Litens is OEM.

Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not scrimp 
on. I only use Continental for belts.

-D


On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip in the 
car.

I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some cheepcheepchit, 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/

$5 for a pulley 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ but 
the MB is $41.

A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is no 
good.


Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB

ACDelco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Dayco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1

Advance Auto have

Febi 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P

Litens 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P

for basically the same price and shipping time.

So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???


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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The Gates belt and tensioner are on sale at Rock, and there's a $20 no-name 
tensioner if you really want to save.

 2000 MERCEDES-BENZ E320 3.2L V6
Belt Drive : Idler Pulley
GATES 38082 $21.79  $21.79  
Belt Drive : Belt
GATES K060942
$8.24   $8.24   
Belt Drive : Belt Tensioner
GATES 38174 $46.79  $46.79

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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Given the choice I would have no TV, but that’s not my call. I was surprised I 
could convince the spouse to cut the cord - Spectrum’s sudden price hike when 
we went off contract did the push for me. She’s happy as heck with what she has 
to watch now and even finds it easier to use than the cable box, which is icing 
on the cake. As long as she can watch what I refer to as her “murder porn” 
(like Discovery Investigation stuff) all is good.

No cloud storage for me, thank you, I want to control and own my data. I use my 
own router with my own custom firewall rules and proxy to keep things out and 
in based on my rules. I have a FreeNAS server that has over 10TB of RAID based 
storage, so we’re good there.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I put in a ubiquiti network at home with a cloud key, security gateway, a
> poe switch for the cameras (DVR is in the cloud key), a couple of wifi
> access points. Seems to work great. Best part is the app where I can block
> and unblock every client on the network individually. I pi-holed all the ad
> sites at the firewall so they just get rejected. But the more ipad clients
> I block, the more books get read by everyone, and the happier we all are. I
> have been putting off getting a short throw DLP and may just put it off
> indefinitely. We have no TV currently.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 9:59 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Cut the cord on cable last month. Went from $220/month for
>> phone/cable/Internet (undiscounted costs as we just went out of contract)
>> down to a little over $100/month for nearly the same content, and no more
>> land line.
>> 
>> $60/month Internet (100/100)
>> $50/month YouTube TV
>> $5/month Tablo DVR
>> 
>> This gives us a boatload of content through YouTube TV, over the air
>> broadcasts with DVR functionality with the Tablo (also a feature of YTTV),
>> and through various free applications like Pluto TV (400+ free channels).
>> 
>> There’s minimal competition in this market, so if you want to pull the
>> plug on your provider they just shrug their shoulders and tell you “Bye!”
>> No effort for retention.
>> 
>> Along with using Spectrum (Charter) for cable, we also moved from Verizon
>> ($200/month for 4 lines) to Spectrum ($56/month for 4 lines) for our
>> cellular service. Spectrum piggybacks on Verizon, so coverage is the same.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam
>> calls, and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than
>> it costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a
>> special bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am
>> paying now, and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now
>> for the internet portion of my service, and would be less than internet
>> service alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some new
>> spam blocker you can activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call (ev


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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D $2k

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've seen this one before 

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 13, 2019 7:24:40 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :
 
> 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1246991855509562/
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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I put in a ubiquiti network at home with a cloud key, security gateway, a
poe switch for the cameras (DVR is in the cloud key), a couple of wifi
access points. Seems to work great. Best part is the app where I can block
and unblock every client on the network individually. I pi-holed all the ad
sites at the firewall so they just get rejected. But the more ipad clients
I block, the more books get read by everyone, and the happier we all are. I
have been putting off getting a short throw DLP and may just put it off
indefinitely. We have no TV currently.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 9:59 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Cut the cord on cable last month. Went from $220/month for
> phone/cable/Internet (undiscounted costs as we just went out of contract)
> down to a little over $100/month for nearly the same content, and no more
> land line.
>
> $60/month Internet (100/100)
> $50/month YouTube TV
> $5/month Tablo DVR
>
> This gives us a boatload of content through YouTube TV, over the air
> broadcasts with DVR functionality with the Tablo (also a feature of YTTV),
> and through various free applications like Pluto TV (400+ free channels).
>
> There’s minimal competition in this market, so if you want to pull the
> plug on your provider they just shrug their shoulders and tell you “Bye!”
> No effort for retention.
>
> Along with using Spectrum (Charter) for cable, we also moved from Verizon
> ($200/month for 4 lines) to Spectrum ($56/month for 4 lines) for our
> cellular service. Spectrum piggybacks on Verizon, so coverage is the same.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam
> calls, and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than
> it costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a
> special bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am
> paying now, and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now
> for the internet portion of my service, and would be less than internet
> service alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some new
> spam blocker you can activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call (even
> with all the impediments to getting a real person) to save $45/month.
> >
> > So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal
> much any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the
> digital subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a
> 6month bundle of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that is
> less than half what I am paying now for both, and is less than just the
> digital subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
> >
> > So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward.
> Reasonable return on my time I guess.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I think Litens is OEM.

Why not go with MB for the pulley? That’s a part I would definitely not scrimp 
on. I only use Continental for belts.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 as 
> something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving trip in 
> the car.
> 
> I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some 
> cheepcheepchit, 
> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/
> 
> $5 for a pulley 
> https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ 
> but the MB is $41.
> 
> A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that is no 
> good.
> 
> 
> Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB
> 
> ACDelco 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
> 
> Dayco 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1
> 
> Advance Auto have
> 
> Febi 
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P
> 
> Litens 
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P
> 
> for basically the same price and shipping time.
> 
> So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???
> 
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[MBZ] belt pulleys for E320?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So I'm looking to get new idler and tensioner pulleys for the $600E320 
as something in there is making noise and I am going on a Thanksgiving 
trip in the car.


I look here and they have a kit, but the pulleys look like some 
cheepcheepchit, 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mercedes-Benz/74072012/1999-E320-3-2L-6-Cyl-18-Valve/1004/Belts-Pulleys-Tensioners/


$5 for a pulley 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/52770/Serpentine-Belt-Idler-Pulley-55700/ 
but the MB is $41.


A Febi Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is $11 but backordered so that 
is no good.



Amazon has these which seem like better brands but still cheaper than MB

ACDelco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9PE9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1


Dayco 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CG91J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER=1


Advance Auto have

Febi 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/febi-febi-accessory-belt-idler-pulley-g6020397097feb/10790747-P


Litens 
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/litens-idler-tensioner-pulley-original-equipment-quality-900149a/10457821-P


for basically the same price and shipping time.

So Febi/Litens or ACDelco/Dayco???


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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Cut the cord on cable last month. Went from $220/month for phone/cable/Internet 
(undiscounted costs as we just went out of contract) down to a little over 
$100/month for nearly the same content, and no more land line.

$60/month Internet (100/100)
$50/month YouTube TV
$5/month Tablo DVR

This gives us a boatload of content through YouTube TV, over the air broadcasts 
with DVR functionality with the Tablo (also a feature of YTTV), and through 
various free applications like Pluto TV (400+ free channels).

There’s minimal competition in this market, so if you want to pull the plug on 
your provider they just shrug their shoulders and tell you “Bye!” No effort for 
retention.

Along with using Spectrum (Charter) for cable, we also moved from Verizon 
($200/month for 4 lines) to Spectrum ($56/month for 4 lines) for our cellular 
service. Spectrum piggybacks on Verizon, so coverage is the same.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam calls, and 
> keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more than it costs as 
> the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have a special bundle 
> (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am paying now, and the 
> total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now for the internet portion 
> of my service, and would be less than internet service alone. Go figure. So I 
> signed up for that. And they have some new spam blocker you can activate so I 
> did that. It's worth a 15min call (even with all the impediments to getting a 
> real person) to save $45/month.
> 
> So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal much 
> any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the digital 
> subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a 6month bundle 
> of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that is less than half 
> what I am paying now for both, and is less than just the digital 
> subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
> 
> So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. Reasonable 
> return on my time I guess.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's two Mercedes fixer-upper-flippers!

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam
> calls, and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more
> than it costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have
> a special bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am
> paying now, and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now
> for the internet portion of my service, and would be less than internet
> service alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some
> new spam blocker you can activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call
> (even with all the impediments to getting a real person) to save $45/month.
>
> So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal
> much any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the
> digital subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a
> 6month bundle of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that
> is less than half what I am paying now for both, and is less than just
> the digital subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!
>
> So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward.
> Reasonable return on my time I guess.
>
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[MBZ] OT phone/internet and WSJ bills

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK so I was going to cancel my land line because all I get is spam 
calls, and keep my internet. ATT tells me just internet would be more 
than it costs as the portion of the bundle of voice+IP. BUT... they have 
a special bundle (which is the exact same bundle) for 45% less than I am 
paying now, and the total for Voice+IP will be less than I am paying now 
for the internet portion of my service, and would be less than internet 
service alone. Go figure. So I signed up for that. And they have some 
new spam blocker you can activate so I did that. It's worth a 15min call 
(even with all the impediments to getting a real person) to save $45/month.


So then I decide that I don't have time to read the Wall Street Journal 
much any more, so I was going to cancel that and maybe just keep the 
digital subscription to read it on the app and online. But they have a 
6month bundle of print+digital, available to existing subscribers, that 
is less than half what I am paying now for both, and is less than just 
the digital subscription. Go figure. Sign me up!


So 30min on the phone saves me close to $70/month going forward. 
Reasonable return on my time I guess.


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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh! (Welder question)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A my error.
Amend suggestion to "Take it back to the Lincoln dealer " , since they are
most likely to have both the parts and the schematic and history of failure
necessary to quickly and properly repair the welder.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Made by Lincoln, not in CHina.  Not HF.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 12:54 PM:
> > Take the welder back to Harbor Freight... ask them to replace it with a
> new
> > one..
> > I bet they will
> > Worth a try, in any case..
> > They now have a quite good product support in place..
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:12 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, yes, but finding an exact replacement is problematic.
> >>
> >> See the last few posts on this thread, Page 1.
> >>
> >> https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1362696
> >>
> >> It has 6 button diodes.  Apparently similar to what is used in car
> >> alternators.   As of now, the volt and amp rating are unknown.
> >>
> >> this schematic shows the big brother 240V version of this welder, and if
> >> you look at the rectifier, mine is similar, but it only has one 6 diode
> >> rectifier.
> >> https://www.weldmart.com/main/technical/centurymig_troubleshooting.html
> >>
> >> Or I could buy/scrounge some other Full wave bridge rectifier.
> >> as seen in page 2 of this thread.
> >> https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1362696
> >> (Same as first link, but page 2.)
> >>
> >> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/11/19 10:59 PM:
> >>> Is the diode replaceable?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Nov 11, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  Doing some online research, it seems like a blown diode makes a welder
> >> buzz loud.
> 
> 
> 
>  I was welding on an MB one day.   in the merry merry month of
> >> november...
>  then the welder started buzzing when I was not welding.  I shut it
> down
> >> right away, then tried it again a couple times.   I thought it sounded
> like
> >> the fan may be loose on the motor shaft.
>  THe welder is a Century 100  125v  100 A mig. 20% duty cycle.   I
> >> have not used it more than 20%.
>  I took off the cover, unplugged the wires to the fan, the gas valve,
> >> and the wire feed motor.  THat left only the 2 transformers.   Same buzz
> >> when I plugged it in and turned on the switch. (Without the fan, gas
> valve
> >> or wire feed.)
>  Here is the question.   I assume this means there was an insulation
> >> failure somewhere.   Is this correct or would something else make it
> buzz
> >> loud?  Tomorrow is supposed to be 30-40º colder temp, so I thought I'd
> try
> >> it when the temp is 30-40º to see if that makes a difference. It was not
> >> hot today, about 70 or so.  That should not have been a factor.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Probably more germain than germane.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 10:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Germain to a German list!
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/13/19 1:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
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Re: [MBZ] Need a Carfax Please

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb, thanks mucho for the Carfax report.  And others for comments about the 
timing chain.  I'll look deeper.  The car looks great inside and out, but as we 
know appearances can be deceiving.  I need to do a direct contact with the 
seller and look at it in person.
Thanks again to everyone,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] OT Rod Stewart's trains

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

MMM just splooged all over his computer.

-D

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7678617/Rod-Stewarts-secret-hit-track-Veteran-rocker-finally-lets-world-legendary-model-railwa.html
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

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Germain to a German list!

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On 11/13/19 1:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list. 


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[MBZ] OT Rod Stewart's trains

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7678617/Rod-Stewarts-secret-hit-track-Veteran-rocker-finally-lets-world-legendary-model-railwa.html

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[MBZ] Need another Carfax Please

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

While you're at it...

4JGAB75E85A553276


 Brand:




 *Mercedes-Benz*


 Model:




 *ML-class (W163)*


 Region/Plant:




 *Sindelfingen / Tuscaloosa AL*


 Check:




 *8*


 Year:




 *2005*


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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Discussions on climate change are indirectly automotive in nature as cars are 
blamed for it. The question I keep asking those who preach that climate change 
is man-made is why are the polar ice caps on Mars melting? I never get an 
answer. As far as I’m concerned, melting Martian polar ice caps is all the 
evidence I need to believe that man-made climate change is a complete and utter 
sham.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Germane.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:24 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 5:24 PM:
>>> I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes
>> content.
>>> While having nothing to do with politics.
>>> It is:
>>> The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public
>> has
>>> had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
>>> are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
>>> be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued
>> into
>>> the whole "global warming argument"...
>>> The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of
>> future
>>> designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
>>> shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
>>> "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
>>> forums.
>>> 
>>> As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
>>> at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
>>> Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
>>> scientific investigation, it seems.
>>> Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was
>> both
>>> flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better
>> discussed
>>> elsewhere].
>>> 
>>> Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
>>> what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them
>> running
>>> and supported.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> G.Mann
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] '65 Rambler American 440 3 speed convertible

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

First car I remember my parents owning was a 4-door Rambler American
sedan. I think they bought it the year I was born, and kept it until I
was in middle school. They sold it to a neighbor who had a pizza
restaurant, and he used it as a delivery car. I think it lasted about a
month or two after that.

Allan


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> OMG.  The rarity of this car is well deserved, e.g.e. who would want to
> purchase it?  My college roommate had a Rambler sedan that was convenient
> for dating, until I inadvertently drove it in winter without any coolant.
> It rolled to a dead stop, causing significant damage
>
> * 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-rambler-american-440/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-11-12
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Germane.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:24 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 5:24 PM:
> > I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes
> content.
> > While having nothing to do with politics.
> > It is:
> > The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public
> has
> > had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
> > are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
> > be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued
> into
> > the whole "global warming argument"...
> > The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of
> future
> > designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
> > shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
> > "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
> > forums.
> >
> > As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
> > at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
> > Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
> > scientific investigation, it seems.
> > Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was
> both
> > flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better
> discussed
> > elsewhere].
> >
> > Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
> > what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them
> running
> > and supported.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > G.Mann
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Clay:

Joe @ road Warrior transport.

773 849 9478




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Gordon could have driven it onto the ferry ages ago. 
Or Redghost, he's got nothing better to do, and his wife wants the car.
Mitch.

> On November 13, 2019 at 6:48 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What kind of vehicle?  Road trip!

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Re: [MBZ] Need a Carfax Please

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Later OM642 were supposed to have defective timing chains, but I don't think 
that applies to 2008.
Early ones have oil cooler leaks and maybe bad intake manifolds I believe.

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[MBZ] 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D $2k

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1246991855509562/

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Re: [MBZ] In Search Of...

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

210 not my favorite Mercedes but leaps and bounds better than a Hilux!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Youngest son is getting closer to reality.
> 
> He now wants to find a facelift S210 4Matic wagon. There’s one in town for 
> sale right now, but I have concerns as it came fro NY and PA in 2016, which 
> means it just about got to have rust on it somewhere. However, in the ad it 
> looks pretty clean:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e320-awd-wagon/7008940655.html
> 
> I reached out to the owner to ask for undercarriage pictures, but haven’t 
> heard back yet…
> 
> If anyone knows of something similar in good condition, drop me a mote, 
> please.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Need a Carfax Please

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

2008 MERCEDES-BENZ ML320 CDI
VIN: 4JGBB22EX8A375449
4 DOOR WAGON/SPORT UTILITY
3.0L V6 F DOHC 24V
DIESEL
ALL WHEEL DRIVE
No accidents reported to CARFAX
No damage reported to CARFAX
4 Previous owners
11 Service history records
Types of owners: Personal lease, Personal
80,290 Last reported odometer reading
This CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on informationsupplied to 
CARFAX and available as of 11/13/19 at 6:43:03 AM (CST). Other information 
about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. 
Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test 
drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.

CARFAX Title History
CARFAX guarantees the information in this section
Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt | Fire 
Flood | Hail | LemonGuaranteed
No Problem
Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits  Guaranteed
No Problem
GUARANTEED - None of these major title problems were reported by a state 
Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). If you find that any of these title 
problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will 
buy this vehicle back.  View Terms
CARFAX Additional History
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Total Loss
No total loss reported to CARFAX.   
Structural Damage
No structural damage reported to CARFAX.
Airbag Deployment
No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX.
Odometer Check
No indication of an odometer rollback.  
Accident / Damage
No accidents or damage reported to CARFAX.  
Manufacturer Recall
Check with an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealer for any open recalls. No 
Recalls Reported
CARFAX Detailed History
Owner 1
Purchased: 2008
Personal Lease Vehicle
12,943 Mi/Yr
Mileage:
Source:
Comments:
1/24/08
6 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Miami 
Miami, FL 
305-707-0147 
mercedesfla.com
4.0
121 Verified Reviews

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4.0
121 Verified Reviews

5 Star
66%
4 Star
7%
3 Star
6%
2 Star
4%
1 Star
17%
Vehicle offered for sale
1/31/08
11 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Miami 
Miami, FL 
305-707-0147 
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4.0
121 Verified Reviews

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4.0
121 Verified Reviews

5 Star
66%
4 Star
7%
3 Star
6%
2 Star
4%
1 Star
17%
Vehicle serviced
3/9/08
25 mi.
Florida 
Motor Vehicle Dept. 
Delray Beach, FL
Odometer reading reported
4/3/08
Florida 
Motor Vehicle Dept. 
Delray Beach, FL 
Title #0100461107
Title issued or updated
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
Titled or registered as personal lease vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as White
5/17/08
2,480 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Pompano 
Pompano Beach, FL 
954-943-5000 
mercedesfla.com
4.3
57 Verified Reviews

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4.3
57 Verified Reviews

5 Star
76%
4 Star
5%
3 Star
5%
2 Star
2%
1 Star
12%
Vehicle serviced
Maintenance inspection completed
Recommended maintenance performed
One tire mounted
One tire balanced
Alignment performed
1/8/09
9,260 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Pompano 
Pompano Beach, FL 
954-943-5000 
mercedesfla.com
4.3
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5 Star
76%
4 Star
5%
3 Star
5%
2 Star
2%
1 Star
12%
Vehicle serviced
Recommended maintenance performed
Maintenance inspection completed
Tire repaired
Battery/charging system checked
5/13/09
Florida 
Motor Vehicle Dept. 
Delray Beach, FL 
Title #0100461107
Registration issued or renewed
Titled or registered as personal lease vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as White
8/20/09
18,784 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Pompano 
Pompano Beach, FL 
954-943-5000 
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4.3
57 Verified Reviews

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4.3
57 Verified Reviews

5 Star
76%
4 Star
5%
3 Star
5%
2 Star
2%
1 Star
12%
Vehicle offered for sale
8/26/09
Mercedes-Benz of Pompano 
Pompano Beach, FL 
954-943-5000 
mercedesfla.com
4.3
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5 Star
76%
4 Star
5%
3 Star
5%
2 Star
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1 Star
12%
Vehicle serviced
Pre-delivery inspection completed
Recommended maintenance performed
Radio code retrieved
Four wheel alignment performed
Alignment performed
Four tires balanced
Four tires mounted
Emission system checked
8/26/09
Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned Dealer
Offered for sale as a Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle 
Owner 2
Purchased: 2009
Personal Vehicle
10,158 Mi/Yr
Mileage:
Source:
Comments:
9/7/09
18,799 mi.
Florida 
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Vehicle purchase reported
9/9/09
Mercedes-Benz of Fort Lauderdale 
Fort Lauderdale, FL 
954-949-0623 
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4.6
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146 Verified Reviews

5 Star
82%
4 Star
8%
3 Star
3%
2 Star
3%
1 Star
4%
Vehicle serviced
9/10/09
Florida 
Motor Vehicle Dept. 
Miami, FL 
Title #0100461107
Title issued or updated
Title or registration issued
New owner reported
Titled or registered 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

What kind of vehicle?  Road trip!

--FT
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> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:41 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SWMBA purchased a car out of Southeast MO.  The transport broker(?) who was 
> supposed to get the thing hauled to SEA for placement onto a boat has dropped 
> the ball.  The car was expected to be on the ship last week.  Now it looks 
> like it might not be up here for driving until 2020 if she keeps using this 
> guy.
> 
> Anybody have a reliable transporter to recommend?   
> 
> I am aware  that there is a mighty weather system brewing mostly impacting MO 
> and TN this week and maybe next.  SWMBA is beginning to think I should be 
> sent to pick up and drive the thing here (ANC).  
> 
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curley had a shipper, and so does Dan.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 12, 2019 10:42 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: clay.dread...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Car Hauler?

SWMBA purchased a car out of Southeast MO.  The transport broker(?) who was 
supposed to get the thing hauled to SEA for placement onto a boat has dropped 
the ball.  The car was expected to be on the ship last week.  Now it looks like 
it might not be up here for driving until 2020 if she keeps using this guy.

Anybody have a reliable transporter to recommend?

I am aware  that there is a mighty weather system brewing mostly impacting MO 
and TN this week and maybe next.  SWMBA is beginning to think I should be sent 
to pick up and drive the thing here (ANC).


clay
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh! (Welder question)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I would probably just buy the whole rectifier and be done with it.

Rick
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