Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Wild pig boar meat is rank. The boar hormones and body structure make it
not edible, in my experience. So much so, I only dress out sows for meat.
Hogs are omnivores. living or dead, they will eat it..
Good hog meat comes from pigs that are "open range" feeding.

Heli-Pork  BBQ...
???

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:58 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > Rocky mountain oysters are from pigs that are still young.
>
> Cattle.  I have personally harvested some.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Rocky mountain oysters are from pigs that are still young.

Cattle.  I have personally harvested some.

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[MBZ] Sprinters on auction

[fmiser via Mercedes]

A couple of sprinters I spotted on an auction site.  

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/200122/item/DC3391/2006-Dodge-Sprinter_2500-Pickups_and_Vans-3/4_or_1_Ton_Pickup_or_Van-Kansas

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/200122/item/EM9889/2012-Mercedes_Benz-Sprinter_2500-Pickups_and_Vans-3/4_or_1_Ton_Pickup_or_Van-Iowa


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Get it in the nutritional drinks section of your local drugstore. 


> On January 2, 2020 at 1:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

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I thought they were from making calves into steers ...

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:58 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  I thought they were from goats or sheep or something.
> Have you seen "Long Way Round" where Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman
> ride around the world on BMW motorcycles? Somewhere in Siberia I think it
> was they get served "yak ball stew". The looks on their faces are priceless.
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 7:46:05 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  not from the boars.   You don't want them.   Rocky mountain oysters are
> from pigs that are still young.
>
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > January 2, 2020 at 3:45 PM
> > Rocky mountain oysters
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 13:57:49 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If kid(s) are big and smart enough to play games  they are big and
> smart enough to learn to clean up and fix up the MBs in your shop/lot
> so they can be run or sold, trim the weeds in the back forty so you can
> find parts etc.   Oh yeah, clean, sort and organize parts and tools.   
> Develop an inventory system, log parts into the computer, fill orders, 
> strip parts from junkers, etc.

Sounds like a good training regimen.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I thought they were from goats or sheep or something.
Have you seen "Long Way Round" where Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman ride 
around the world on BMW motorcycles? Somewhere in Siberia I think it was they 
get served "yak ball stew". The looks on their faces are priceless.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 7:46:05 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 not from the boars.   You don't want them.   Rocky mountain oysters are 
from pigs that are still young.

> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> January 2, 2020 at 3:45 PM
> Rocky mountain oysters
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not from the boars.   You don't want them.   Rocky mountain oysters are 
from pigs that are still young.



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
January 2, 2020 at 3:45 PM
Rocky mountain oysters
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that and scent sacks, where present.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 2, 2020 at 2:39 PM
Actually I've read several articles that try to dispell that 
misconception. They say removing the sexual organs during field 
dressing is key to good meat.

Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'm likin this!   I can help you with perfecting bakery products to 
compliment the helipork, and more things



G Mann via Mercedes 
January 2, 2020 at 2:24 PM
Heli-Hoggers BBQ
Has a nice ring to it, I think
Heli Hunt
Processing plant [everything inspected and proper]
Chain of BBQ Wild Hog stores..
I'm seeing multiple layers of income perhaps.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Racist! demagogue! xenophobe!

Wild hog is good eatin.   Ask any Hawaiyun


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
January 2, 2020 at 2:16 PM
But from what I've heard they may NOT be suitable for human consumption.



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Re: [MBZ] CoPart

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

IAA was recently spun off from Kar Auction Group, the same company that owns 
Adesa. 

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> "Copart dominates the salvage auction market, with a market value 250% 
> greater than its closest competitor, IAA Inc."
> 
> It's been my experience that if I can search Copart and find two of 
> something, I can search IAA and find five or ten of them. Let's see if that 
> changed. I'll try ML55s. Hmmm, two at Copart, zero at IAA. 
> OK, let's see how many GL350s they have. 31 Copart, 19 IAA. 
> Wow, looks like something's changed in the last couple of years. Copart's got 
> more cars.
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Re: [MBZ] CoPart

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"Copart dominates the salvage auction market, with a market value 250% greater 
than its closest competitor, IAA Inc."

It's been my experience that if I can search Copart and find two of something, 
I can search IAA and find five or ten of them. Let's see if that changed. I'll 
try ML55s. Hmmm, two at Copart, zero at IAA. 
OK, let's see how many GL350s they have. 31 Copart, 19 IAA. 
Wow, looks like something's changed in the last couple of years. Copart's got 
more cars.

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Re: [MBZ] test

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:07:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You failed. (Kaleb is slow today).
> 
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:49 PM Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:

I actually sent the email

Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:52:10 -0700

nearly 24 hours before the problem was fixed.


Craig

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[MBZ] My apologies ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

As I mentioned in my reply to Max, the ISP Kaleb uses to host the
Mercedes List had a problem letting my ISP's mail system connect.

Before I figured out what was going on, I resent a bunch of messages,
thinking they were lost in the ether.

My apologies for cluttering your in box.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Rocky mountain oysters
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:40 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually I've read several articles that try to dispell that
> misconception. They say removing the sexual organs during field dressing is
> key to good meat.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   But from what I've heard they may NOT be
> suitable for human consumption.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
> > the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Helicopter hogger?
> > > >
> > > > -- Jim
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
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> who
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Re: [MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:40:23 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
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> 
> Craig, this email made it.
> 

Thank you. It seems the ISP Kaleb is using for the Mercedes List has
corrected the problem they had over the weekend.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] If it has t*ts or wheels it will give you problems!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

T##s, tires, and trouble.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 2, 2020 3:27:36 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes :

> Yes that is the one my grandfather used to say.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 2:32 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> 
> > In the more alliterative version of the Subject I'm familiar with, it's
> > tires, not wheels.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are the hogs labeled to indicate their diet?

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> My neighbor in Houston found them to be quite tasty after being on the
> smoke for 10-12hr, and other bits ground Into sausage and smoked. If
> they’ve been eating acorns the meat is apparently better.
>
> There’s a Q scheduled on Wadmalaw in a coupla weeks at which one or more
> known pests might be featured guests, so I’ve heard...
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > But from what I've heard they may NOT be suitable for human consumption.
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while
> providing
> >> the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Helicopter hogger?
> 
>  -- Jim
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> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
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> who
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My neighbor in Houston found them to be quite tasty after being on the smoke 
for 10-12hr, and other bits ground Into sausage and smoked. If they’ve been 
eating acorns the meat is apparently better. 

There’s a Q scheduled on Wadmalaw in a coupla weeks at which one or more known 
pests might be featured guests, so I’ve heard...

--FT
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> On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But from what I've heard they may NOT be suitable for human consumption.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
>> the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Helicopter hogger?
 
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>> OK Don
>> 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
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>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Actually I've read several articles that try to dispell that misconception. 
They say removing the sexual organs during field dressing is key to good meat.
Curt

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  On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   But from what I've heard they may NOT 
be suitable for human consumption.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
> the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Helicopter hogger?
> > >
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"Trichinosi-licious" - The branded version of Wild boar sushi

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Heli-Hoggers BBQ
> Has a nice ring to it, I think
> Heli Hunt
> Processing plant [everything inspected and proper]
> Chain of BBQ Wild Hog stores..
> I'm seeing multiple layers of income perhaps.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
> > the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Helicopter hogger?
> > > >
> > > > -- Jim
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> > > >
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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Re: [MBZ] If it has t*ts or wheels it will give you problems!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes that is  the one my grandfather used to say.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 2:32 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> In the more alliterative version of the Subject I'm familiar with, it's
> tires, not wheels.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Heli-Hoggers BBQ
Has a nice ring to it, I think
Heli Hunt
Processing plant [everything inspected and proper]
Chain of BBQ Wild Hog stores..
I'm seeing multiple layers of income perhaps.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
> the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Helicopter hogger?
> > >
> > > -- Jim
> > >
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> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But from what I've heard they may NOT be suitable for human consumption.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
> the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Helicopter hogger?
> > >
> > > -- Jim
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Happy New Year!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Oui.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:48 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 19:15:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Thank you Curley. But we don't want our Benzes ti be 100% or we wouldn't
> > have list use.
>
> Au contraire, mes amis! (I think that's spelled correctly ...)
> We have enough off-topic discussions to keep the list going just fine.
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Re: [MBZ] If it has t*ts or wheels it will give you problems!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If it won't start that is a HUGE red flag.

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> In the more alliterative version of the Subject I'm familiar with, it's
> tires, not wheels.
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Re: [MBZ] test

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You failed. (Kaleb is slow today).

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>
>
>
>
> Craig
>
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Someone has to feed the vultures ---

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:01 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yup. Nature takes its course
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 1:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah the clean-up crew shows up in a coupla days  They get most
> > everything. The rodents chew up the bones
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Leave it out for crows & vultures
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on
> this?
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
> > >>> guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
> > >>> wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I
> > moved
> > >>> around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had
> to
> > >>> find them.
> > >>> I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had
> much
> > >>> for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the
> > >> beginning
> > >>> of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I
> found
> > >>> tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
> > >>> -Curt
> > >>>
> > >>>On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via
> > >> Mercedes
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Never understood archery season.
> > >>>
> > >>> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early
> > October.
> > >> A
> > >>> coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and
> sit
> > >> in
> > >>> a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is
> > often
> > >>> the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he
> would
> > >> stay
> > >>> out there no matter what the conditions.
> > >>>
> > >>> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious
> self
> > >>> abuse.
> > >>>
> > >>> -D
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in
> Wisconsin
> > >>> every year:
> > >
> > > Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary
> after
> > >>> taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> > >
> > > Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine
> across
> > >>> the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t
> resurface.
> > 
> >  A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
> > >>> season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around
> for
> > a
> > >>> couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting
> > >> ready
> > >>> to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
> >  He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a
> > >> lung.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Helihogger -- nothing dystopian about providing good food while providing
the balance in nature that killing off the predators disturbed.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Helicopter hogger?
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If kid(s) are big and smart enough to play games  they are big and smart 
enough to learn to clean up and fix up the MBs in your shop/lot so they 
can be run or sold, trim the weeds in the back forty so you can find 
parts etc.   Oh yeah, clean, sort and organize parts and tools.   
Develop an inventory system, log parts into the computer, fill orders, 
strip parts from junkers, etc.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 5:55 PM
And yes that is huge. We typically run 15-20 a day on a heavy gaming 
and steaming day.


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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Your emails are coming through Craig, this is the third time I've gotten this 
one.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 2:49:29 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:53:41 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The ball would be raise 5 min before the time mark, and on the
> time mark it would be dropped.  Not lowered slowly - but the
> usually 10 m/s^2 of gravity.  The beginning of the ball moving was
> the reference point in time.  12:00 and 13:00 were both common time
> marks, mostly depending on the country.
> 
> As radios became prevalent, the need for time balls passed.
> 
> There!  I suspect most of you have now learned something new this
> year.

Yes, thank you!

But I must correct both you,

      From https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?gn,
      standard acceleration of gravity is:

            Numerical value        9.80665 m/s^2
            Standard uncertainty    (exact)

      From Wikipedia:

            At different points on Earth surface, the gravitational
            speed gain ranges from 9.764 m/s2 to 9.834 m/s2[2] depending
            on altitude and latitude


and Clay,

      K = deg.C + 273.16

      7 deg.C = 280.16 K


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] test

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Fail!~


Craig via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 4:52 PM




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:53:41 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The ball would be raise 5 min before the time mark, and on the
> time mark it would be dropped.  Not lowered slowly - but the
> usually 10 m/s^2 of gravity.  The beginning of the ball moving was
> the reference point in time.  12:00 and 13:00 were both common time
> marks, mostly depending on the country.
> 
> As radios became prevalent, the need for time balls passed.
> 
> There!  I suspect most of you have now learned something new this
> year.

Yes, thank you!

But I must correct both you,

   From https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?gn,
   standard acceleration of gravity is:

Numerical value 9.80665 m/s^2
Standard uncertainty(exact)

   From Wikipedia:

At different points on Earth surface, the gravitational
speed gain ranges from 9.764 m/s2 to 9.834 m/s2[2] depending
on altitude and latitude


and Clay,

   K = deg.C + 273.16

   7 deg.C = 280.16 K


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[MBZ] test

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 '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '61 Willys Utility Wagon
 '59 Willys Utility Wagon
 '67 Volkswagen Fastback
 '64 190Dc  Emma
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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 18:20:49 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have no idea about these games but they are huge.  He is not here so
> I went it and shut the thing off.  Now the speed has returned.

I guess that says you know what is going on ...

Congratulations!


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Re: [MBZ] Happy New Year!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 19:15:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thank you Curley. But we don't want our Benzes ti be 100% or we wouldn't
> have list use.

Au contraire, mes amis! (I think that's spelled correctly ...)
We have enough off-topic discussions to keep the list going just fine.


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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 16:45:18 -0500 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Glad to hear we all survived NYE without major injuries or disruptions.
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. MAY YOU REMAIN HEALTHY, HAPPY, AND PROSPEROUS IN
> THE COMING YEAR! Gerry

Thank you, Gerry.


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Re: [MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig, this email made it.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 2, 2020 1:53:16 PM Craig via Mercedes :

> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 22:12:35 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > It's a decent product, but at the end of the day you're talking about a
> > ~$6 a gallon full synthetic ATF. It's a group 3, with a bare bones add
> > pack. I'm actually changing mine in 2020 to an Oronite add pack, it
> > should be a step up from the Afton. The thing about transmission fluids
> > is alot of things can work, just variations of 'how well' it works and
> > for 'how long' it will last. So I'm sure a lot of people use maxlife in
> > the wrong application, but it's just close enough that they won't
> > notice where it's failing and they either maintenance their car a lot -
> > so they drain the oil early. Or, they're the type that flips it before
> > it's needing to be done.
> > 
> 
> This seems clear -- one should not use it long-term.
> 
> 
> 
> > Personally, now that I've used a high end transmission fluid - I won't
> > go back. Other than for the new 8 / 9 / 10 speeds. Don't touch that
> > 
> 
> I'm not sure what he means here.
> 
> Does he mean the new 8/9/10 speed transmissions use a non-high-end fluid?
> 
> What is he saying to not touch? The Valvoline Maxlife?
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> P.S. I copied you directly, Mitch, because my emails are
> not making it to okiebenz for some reason today.
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[MBZ] BIG SELLING feature is that it has a transferable bumper to bumper warranty for another 28, 000 miles

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Probably going to need it

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2912047242171521/

2012 Mercedes-Benz GL-Class GL 450 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D
Charleston, SC· 6 hours ago 
· 


$19,000

Seller's Description

 *

   Really nice GL 450 which has been invested in. New tires, battery,
   air suspension and compressor. BIG SELLING feature is that it has a
   transferable bumper to bumper warranty for another 28,000 miles.

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[MBZ] Holes in the fenders

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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2007 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C 230 Sport Sedan 4D
Springfield, GA· 2 hours ago 
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$5,495

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Re: [MBZ] If it has t*ts or wheels it will give you problems!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

In the more alliterative version of the Subject I'm familiar with, it's tires, 
not wheels.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] If it has t*ts or wheels it will give you problems!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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1985 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D
Savannah, GA· 3 hours ago 
· 


$2,500

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 11,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Blue
 *
 o

 o Good condition
   

Seller's Description

Engine turns over great just needs a battery willing to purchase the 
battery for a higher amount or obo


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yup. Nature takes its course

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 1:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah the clean-up crew shows up in a coupla days  They get most
> everything. The rodents chew up the bones
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Leave it out for crows & vultures
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
> >>> guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
> >>> wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I
> moved
> >>> around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to
> >>> find them.
> >>> I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much
> >>> for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the
> >> beginning
> >>> of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found
> >>> tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via
> >> Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Never understood archery season.
> >>>
> >>> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early
> October.
> >> A
> >>> coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit
> >> in
> >>> a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is
> often
> >>> the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would
> >> stay
> >>> out there no matter what the conditions.
> >>>
> >>> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self
> >>> abuse.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin
> >>> every year:
> >
> > Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after
> >>> taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> >
> > Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across
> >>> the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> 
>  A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
> >>> season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for
> a
> >>> couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting
> >> ready
> >>> to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
>  He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a
> >> lung.
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Re: [MBZ] R63

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 20:00:09 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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> https://autos.yahoo.com/211-000-mile-mercedes-benz-212400823.html

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2007-mercedes-benz-r63-25/

Current Bid: $10,300 Ends In: 5 days


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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 17:55:45 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> And yes that is huge. We typically run 15-20 a day on a heavy gaming
> and steaming day. 

I recall your email of excessive data usage a while back, but I could not
find it in my collection.

Maybe try the archives?  http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:53:41 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The ball would be raise 5 min before the time mark, and on the
> time mark it would be dropped.  Not lowered slowly - but the
> usually 10 m/s^2 of gravity.  The beginning of the ball moving was
> the reference point in time.  12:00 and 13:00 were both common time
> marks, mostly depending on the country.
> 
> As radios became prevalent, the need for time balls passed.
> 
> There!  I suspect most of you have now learned something new this
> year.

Yes, thank you!

But I must correct both you,

   From https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?gn,
   standard acceleration of gravity is:

Numerical value 9.80665 m/s^2
Standard uncertainty(exact)

   From Wikipedia:

At different points on Earth surface, the gravitational
speed gain ranges from 9.764 m/s2 to 9.834 m/s2[2] depending
on altitude and latitude


and Clay,

   K = deg.C + 273.16

   7 deg.C = 280.16 K


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:31:46 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they?

We bought a 1984 Ford Ranger pickup new in 1984.
Its hardware was both inch and metric.
I presume they have moved further toward metric
in the years since.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 We're in the low '40s here in north central MA, a beautiful sunny day.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 1:53:00 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Same here in D.C. although 25 F. degrees cooler.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:51:18 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Beautiful day today. Clear skies, lows in the 50s, highs in the 70s, no
> > humidity. This is Florida winter, and it’s glorious.
> >
> > Sorry.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 16:45:18 -0500 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Glad to hear we all survived NYE without major injuries or disruptions.
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. MAY YOU REMAIN HEALTHY, HAPPY, AND PROSPEROUS IN
> THE COMING YEAR! Gerry

Thank you, Gerry.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:33:50 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We have been fighting this stuff and have gained some traction but it
> is a struggle against big money.

May you be successful in driving away that kind of stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:31:46 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they?

We bought a 1984 Ford Ranger pickup new in 1984.
Its hardware was both inch and metric.
I presume they have moved further toward metric
in the years since.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:09:14 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Are you going to FSBO it?

We sold our house in Los Alamos by owner.

I even painted up some nice signs to put in front of the house and on the
major road at the end of the street.


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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:51:18 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Beautiful day today. Clear skies, lows in the 50s, highs in the 70s, no
> humidity. This is Florida winter, and it’s glorious.
> 
> Sorry.

Thank you.


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Re: [MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 22:12:35 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It's a decent product, but at the end of the day you're talking about a
> ~$6 a gallon full synthetic ATF. It's a group 3, with a bare bones add
> pack. I'm actually changing mine in 2020 to an Oronite add pack, it
> should be a step up from the Afton. The thing about transmission fluids
> is alot of things can work, just variations of 'how well' it works and
> for 'how long' it will last. So I'm sure a lot of people use maxlife in
> the wrong application, but it's just close enough that they won't
> notice where it's failing and they either maintenance their car a lot -
> so they drain the oil early. Or, they're the type that flips it before
> it's needing to be done.

This seems clear -- one should not use it long-term.


> Personally, now that I've used a high end transmission fluid - I won't
> go back. Other than for the new 8 / 9 / 10 speeds. Don't touch that

I'm not sure what he means here.

Does he mean the new 8/9/10 speed transmissions use a non-high-end fluid?

What is he saying to not touch? The Valvoline Maxlife?


Craig

P.S. I copied you directly, Mitch, because my emails are
 not making it to okiebenz for some reason today.

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Same here in D.C. although 25 F. degrees cooler.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:51:18 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Beautiful day today. Clear skies, lows in the 50s, highs in the 70s, no
> > humidity. This is Florida winter, and it’s glorious.
> >
> > Sorry.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:51:18 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Beautiful day today. Clear skies, lows in the 50s, highs in the 70s, no
> humidity. This is Florida winter, and it’s glorious.
> 
> Sorry.

Thank you.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

FCP Euro discount code for $20 off $250: TEAMFCPEURO

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 2, 2020 11:21:45 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :

> The comparison on price is against Lemforder, which come out to about $155
> each. The genuine parts, with 25-30% off list you can get through many
> dealers, come out to $175-$185.
> 
> I didn't find the TRWs until recently. I'd give them a shot.
> 
> Moog means nothing to me in terms of Mercedes OEMs... probably reboxed
> stuff. Might even be TRW, take a close look at what you get.
> 
> Here is what Taiwanese Lemforder parts look like, which I refused to use:
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2019_12_10_Control_Arm/
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:25 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > that is about twice what I paid for moog the last time I did LCAs on
> > 124. What I put on looked correct, and they have done well for several
> > years now.
> > So, while the MB parts are probably good as or better than, they are not
> > "a few dollars more"
> > 
> > I suspect trw make the moog or vice versa. They both have the white
> > boot on the ball joint.
> > 
> > > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
> > > January 2, 2020 at 6:15 AM
> > > I also buy a lot of stuff from the classic center, they stock a
> > > 
> > surprising
> > 
> > > amount of things. Last friday I had them overnight me connecting rod
> > > 
> > bolts
> > 
> > > for a M117, they had them in stock. They can certainly get you these.
> > > 
> > > The control arms are:
> > > 
> > > 1243303407
> > > 1243303507
> > > 
> > > List is around $250 each.
> > > 
> > > These more also be worth trying...TRW made the ones I got from MB:
> > > 
> > > 
> > https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-suspension-control-arm-1243303507
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Let's give it a  dystopian moniker.  Soylent Hog?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green


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> Helicopter hogger?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah the clean-up crew shows up in a coupla days  They get most everything. The 
rodents chew up the bones 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Leave it out for crows & vultures
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
>>> guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
>>> wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved
>>> around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to
>>> find them.
>>> I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much
>>> for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the
>> beginning
>>> of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found
>>> tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via
>> Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never understood archery season.
>>> 
>>> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October.
>> A
>>> coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit
>> in
>>> a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often
>>> the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would
>> stay
>>> out there no matter what the conditions.
>>> 
>>> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self
>>> abuse.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin
>>> every year:
> 
> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after
>>> taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> 
> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across
>>> the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
 
 A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
>>> season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a
>>> couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting
>> ready
>>> to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
 He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a
>> lung.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:33:50 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We have been fighting this stuff and have gained some traction but it
> is a struggle against big money.

May you be successful in driving away that kind of stuff.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:09:14 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Are you going to FSBO it?

We sold our house in Los Alamos by owner.

I even painted up some nice signs to put in front of the house and on the
major road at the end of the street.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well the TEAMFCPEURO code for $20 off $250 order is still working today.

Had to really stretch my order with a bunch of filters and fluids of various 
systems, some light bulbs too, but I was able to make it and then get free 
shipping too.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Helicopter hogger?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I think the proper term is commercial hunter, but I like the helicopter
idea!

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:27 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wonder if the climate isn't just right for forming an industrial hunt
> company that harvests wild pig and processes it properly?
>
> Sort of like to have the moniker of "Industrial Hunter" added to my CV...
> I wonder what the ROI would be, to set it in motion... wild meat, "free"
> until you factor in the recovery and processing costs. H...
> [any excuse to own several helicopters with chain guns mounted, right?]
>


-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Quibbling over bits, and bytes - one's only 8X larger than the other ...

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:20 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  Gb and GB are not the same thing...
> -Curt
>

-- 
OK Don

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I wonder if the climate isn't just right for forming an industrial hunt
company that harvests wild pig and processes it properly?

Sort of like to have the moniker of "Industrial Hunter" added to my CV...
I wonder what the ROI would be, to set it in motion... wild meat, "free"
until you factor in the recovery and processing costs. H...
[any excuse to own several helicopters with chain guns mounted, right?]

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> https://www.texasmonthly.com/travel/feral-hogs-invading-northern-states/
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Leave it out for crows & vultures

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
> > guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
> > wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved
> > around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to
> > find them.
> > I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much
> > for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the
> beginning
> > of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found
> > tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via
> Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  Never understood archery season.
> >
> > In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October.
> A
> > coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit
> in
> > a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often
> > the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would
> stay
> > out there no matter what the conditions.
> >
> > I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self
> > abuse.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin
> > every year:
> > >>
> > >> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after
> > taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> > >>
> > >> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across
> > the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> > >
> > > A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
> > season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a
> > couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting
> ready
> > to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
> > > He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a
> lung.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I think you've made a leap of logic. In researching a hog hunt I found an 
outfitter in PA. Thats pretty mid-Atlantic.Viriginia's hog population is 
"exploding" 
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/feral-hog-population-exploding-virginia/
Delaware apparently has a population but (foolishly) doesn't (yet) allow 
hunting.
Based on other states' experience if a population establishes itself it ought 
to be hunted immediately...


-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:33:04 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 My obvious question - why do they migrate up to New England without
establishing residency in the mid-Atlantic?

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> https://www.texasmonthly.com/travel/feral-hogs-invading-northern-states/
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You've been warned!

I don't think we have them here in Mount Plastic, but they across the rivers 
(West of the Ashley River), so they'll be here soon.

Good excuse to invest in more home defense ala Palmetto State Armory.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 2, 2020 10:22:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> https://www.texasmonthly.com/travel/feral-hogs-invading-northern-states/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Any wolf sightings?

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:34 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Apparently there are some people that actually eat them. This is a
> contentious issue on the hunting board on Reddit.
>
> Mostly I think they get thrown away or left for the other scavengers. Some
> people make use of the pelts I guess.
>
> In MA we have to report the kill, similar to shooting a deer but there is
> no limit to the number that can be shot.
>
> Dad has shot a couple on the farm, I've seen a couple on the farm but
> never had a chance to shoot.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:27:22 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
> guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
> wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved
> around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to
> find them.
> I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much
> for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the beginning
> of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found
> tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  Never understood archery season.
>
> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October. A
> coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit in
> a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often
> the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would stay
> out there no matter what the conditions.
>
> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self
> abuse.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin
> every year:
> >>
> >> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after
> taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> >>
> >> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across
> the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> >
> > A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
> season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a
> couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting ready
> to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
> > He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a lung.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've got a cousin in Texas who hunts but apparently won't go on hog hunts. Dad 
and I have been talking about going on a hog hunt. Gonna try for that in 2020.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 10:22:00 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 https://www.texasmonthly.com/travel/feral-hogs-invading-northern-states/

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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That reminds me  - is it possible to re-key a W123 driver's door handle?

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The comparison on price is against Lemforder, which come out to about $155
> each.  The genuine parts, with 25-30% off list you can get through many
> dealers, come out to $175-$185.
>
> I didn't find the TRWs until recently.  I'd give them a shot.
>
> Moog means nothing to me in terms of Mercedes OEMs... probably reboxed
> stuff.  Might even be TRW, take a close look at what you get.
>
> Here is what Taiwanese Lemforder parts look like, which I refused to use:
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2019_12_10_Control_Arm/
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:25 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > that is about twice what I paid for moog the last time I did LCAs on
> > 124.  What I put on looked correct, and they have done well for several
> > years now.
> > So, while the MB parts are probably good as or better than, they are not
> > "a few dollars more"
> >
> > I suspect trw make the moog or vice versa.   They both have the white
> > boot on the ball joint.
> > > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
> > > January 2, 2020 at 6:15 AM
> > > I also buy a lot of stuff from the classic center, they stock a
> > surprising
> > > amount of things. Last friday I had them overnight me connecting rod
> > bolts
> > > for a M117, they had them in stock. They can certainly get you these.
> > >
> > > The control arms are:
> > >
> > > 1243303407
> > > 1243303507
> > >
> > > List is around $250 each.
> > >
> > > These more also be worth trying...TRW made the ones I got from MB:
> > >
> >
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-suspension-control-arm-1243303507
> > >
> > > Jaime
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

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 Apparently there are some people that actually eat them. This is a contentious 
issue on the hunting board on Reddit.
Mostly I think they get thrown away or left for the other scavengers. Some 
people make use of the pelts I guess.
In MA we have to report the kill, similar to shooting a deer but there is no 
limit to the number that can be shot.
Dad has shot a couple on the farm, I've seen a couple on the farm but never had 
a chance to shoot.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:27:22 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these guys 
aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I wasn't. I 
changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved around a lot. I 
knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to find them.
I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much for 
tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the beginning of 
December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found tons of 
tracks another 1/2 mile in...
-Curt

    On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Never understood archery season.

In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October. A 
coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit in a 
tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often the 
case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would stay out 
there no matter what the conditions.

I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self abuse.

-D


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin every 
>> year:
>> 
>> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after taking 
>> a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
>> 
>> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across the 
>> river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> 
> A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer season. 
> About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a couple of 
> weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting ready to move him 
> out of ICU to a regular bed. 
> He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a lung.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

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My obvious question - why do they migrate up to New England without
establishing residency in the mid-Atlantic?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

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I suspect that there are enough deer to share with the coyotes. Remember
the old rule about hunting - you have to eat what you kill 

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:00 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  LOLAngie was complaining about my hunting "all the time" the other day
> which I thought was weird. Then it occurred to me that I hunted every
> Saturday but two for 3 months. I guess she kinda has a point...
> Coyote season is in full swing. I'm thinking I need to protect "my" deer
> from the coyotes.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 11:42:26 AM EST, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> Dan says:
>
> >Yeah, this guy would come in on Monday and regale us with stories of how
> he sat in his stand all weekend long, freezing his ass off and/or being
> soaked to the skin, and never getting a deer.
>
> >What’s the point?
>
> To get away from the wife/SWMBA.
> There are guys where I work that have been eligible to retire for years.
> They won't go because they would rather be at work than at home.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How do you dispose of a shot coyote?  What are the regulations on this?

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these
> guys aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I
> wasn't. I changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved
> around a lot. I knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to
> find them.
> I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much
> for tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the beginning
> of December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found
> tons of tracks another 1/2 mile in...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  Never understood archery season.
>
> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October. A
> coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit in
> a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often
> the case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would stay
> out there no matter what the conditions.
>
> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self
> abuse.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin
> every year:
> >>
> >> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after
> taking a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
> >>
> >> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across
> the river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> >
> > A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer
> season. About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a
> couple of weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting ready
> to move him out of ICU to a regular bed.
> > He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a lung.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

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The comparison on price is against Lemforder, which come out to about $155
each.  The genuine parts, with 25-30% off list you can get through many
dealers, come out to $175-$185.

I didn't find the TRWs until recently.  I'd give them a shot.

Moog means nothing to me in terms of Mercedes OEMs... probably reboxed
stuff.  Might even be TRW, take a close look at what you get.

Here is what Taiwanese Lemforder parts look like, which I refused to use:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2019_12_10_Control_Arm/

Jaime


On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:25 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> that is about twice what I paid for moog the last time I did LCAs on
> 124.  What I put on looked correct, and they have done well for several
> years now.
> So, while the MB parts are probably good as or better than, they are not
> "a few dollars more"
>
> I suspect trw make the moog or vice versa.   They both have the white
> boot on the ball joint.
> > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
> > January 2, 2020 at 6:15 AM
> > I also buy a lot of stuff from the classic center, they stock a
> surprising
> > amount of things. Last friday I had them overnight me connecting rod
> bolts
> > for a M117, they had them in stock. They can certainly get you these.
> >
> > The control arms are:
> >
> > 1243303407
> > 1243303507
> >
> > List is around $250 each.
> >
> > These more also be worth trying...TRW made the ones I got from MB:
> >
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-suspension-control-arm-1243303507
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Re: [MBZ] A decent W115 1976 300D

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Colorado beige.  50% nicer than plain beige

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> Kevin,
> Looks nice. Could be a companion to your new,Sprinter. Are,you ready to
> replace Hildegaard?
>
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>
>
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> > I’ve always wanted a nice W115, and they seem to be getting quite rare
> > these days.
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/581993942623256/
> > What do y’all think of this car?
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > 2019 Sprinter 192 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I had an 87 Blazer like that. Infuriating 

--FT
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> On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:45 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My 1986 Chevy Suburban had imperial nuts and bolts on the body but metric on 
> the 350 SBC engine.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2020-01-01  11:14 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: tyee165 
> via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century Not in the 50s and 60s 
> when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 70s and 80s when his 
> replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  Metric crept slowly inta GM 
> when they first started playing with toada.I don't have enough fingers 
> and toes to count how may times i heard "the US will convert to metric by 
> 19xx."  And none of it came to pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime 
> adversaries.> tyee165 via Mercedes > January 1, 
> 2020 at 9:31 AM> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly 
> long > post.Have not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on > 
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[MBZ] CoPart

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

https://apple.news/AX8ugU53CRhyKDqOb1RcfYA

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[MBZ] OT Hog advice

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https://www.texasmonthly.com/travel/feral-hogs-invading-northern-states/

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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that is about twice what I paid for moog the last time I did LCAs on 
124.  What I put on looked correct, and they have done well for several 
years now.
So, while the MB parts are probably good as or better than, they are not 
"a few dollars more"


I suspect trw make the moog or vice versa.   They both have the white 
boot on the ball joint.

Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
January 2, 2020 at 6:15 AM
I also buy a lot of stuff from the classic center, they stock a surprising
amount of things. Last friday I had them overnight me connecting rod bolts
for a M117, they had them in stock. They can certainly get you these.

The control arms are:

1243303407
1243303507

List is around $250 each.

These more also be worth trying...TRW made the ones I got from MB:
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-suspension-control-arm-1243303507

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

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 Gb and GB are not the same thing...
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 6:55:14 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Gb 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> mb(B) or gb(B)?  87mb isn't much, but 96gb(B) is huge
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 1/1/20 6:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> A couple of days ago I did the windows 10 upgrade and we used 96gb of data 
>> that day.  Yesterday we used 87mb and today we are already up to nearly 70.  
>> Internet is running really slow also. It seems like I went thru this before 
>> with something sucking massive amounts of data.  I can't remember how I 
>> determined what it was and shut it down.  Is it possible it is simply 
>> windows 10 downloading a ton of updates?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And it isn't clear what he'd not touch: 8, 9 10 speeds, or some ATF?

obviously he is not saying he won't touch his own house brand equivalent 
to VML, cuz he sells it.



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So what is the stuff that’s about the same as VML?

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 '80s and early '90s American cars are the WORST when the engine is metric but 
the body is still SAE. Never know which tool to grab.
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 5:48:04 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Not in the 50s and 60s when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 
70s and 80s when his replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  
Metric crept slowly inta GM when they first started playing with 
toada.    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how may times i 
heard "the US will convert to metric by 19xx."  And none of it came to 
pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime adversaries.


> tyee165 via Mercedes 
> January 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM
> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long 
> post.Have not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on 
> this tablet.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

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 It takes time in the woods to shoot a deer but I think a lot of these guys 
aren't hunting where the deer are. I know that until this year I wasn't. I 
changed it up this year and hunted 3pm-5pm each day and I moved around a lot. I 
knew there were deer in the section I was in but had to find them.
I did find 2 tree stands, both are in decent spots but neither had much for 
tracks around them. I think after the deep snow we had at the beginning of 
December the deer yarded up and moved deeper into the woods. I found tons of 
tracks another 1/2 mile in...
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 9:31:26 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Never understood archery season.

In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early October. A 
coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go out and sit in a 
tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty handed. As is often the 
case, the weather would get lousy with cold and rain, but he would stay out 
there no matter what the conditions.

I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self abuse.

-D


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On January 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Reminds me of the first two deaths of the winter season in Wisconsin every 
>> year:
>> 
>> Grandpa is found face down in the snow from a massive coronary after taking 
>> a deer and having to lug it a couple miles back to camp, or;
>> 
>> Bubba thinks the ice is thick enough to ride his snow machine across the 
>> river/lake and it isn’t, so he takes a swim and doesn’t resurface.
> 
> A guy I know sort of went off the grid in the middle of archery deer season. 
> About time we were thinking 'hey, haven't seen Nick around for a couple of 
> weeks', he sends a text from the hospital, they're getting ready to move him 
> out of ICU to a regular bed. 
> He fell out of a tree stand, broke a bunch of ribs, and lacerated a lung.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

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 LOLAngie was complaining about my hunting "all the time" the other day which I 
thought was weird. Then it occurred to me that I hunted every Saturday but two 
for 3 months. I guess she kinda has a point...
Coyote season is in full swing. I'm thinking I need to protect "my" deer from 
the coyotes.

-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 11:42:26 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Dan says:

>Yeah, this guy would come in on Monday and regale us with stories of how he 
>sat in his stand all weekend long, freezing his ass off and/or being soaked to 
>the skin, and never getting a deer.

>What’s the point?

To get away from the wife/SWMBA. 
There are guys where I work that have been eligible to retire for years. They 
won't go because they would rather be at work than at home. 


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They fall asleep. I've never done it but I understand how it happens, the tree 
is gently swaying, nothing is going on...Tree stands come with a harness you're 
supposed to wear. I bet almost nobody does.
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 10:11:10 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I never understood how/why these guys climb a ladder, sit on a shelf, 
and then fall off.

When i was a kid, I climbed a rope 20-25' sat in the crotch of a tree. 
Froze,  but never fell out.   And then decided that even if I never saw 
a bambi, I was better off walking.

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> January 1, 2020 at 8:30 AM
> Never understood archery season.
>
> In Indiana, I believe it used to start in late September, early 
> October. A coworker at the time was a serious bow hunter, and would go 
> out and sit in a tree stand for a whole weekend and come home empty 
> handed. As is often the case, the weather would get lousy with cold 
> and rain, but he would stay out there no matter what the conditions.
>
> I completely understand hunting, but that seems like some serious self 
> abuse.
>
> -D
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 We had friends over and made it all the way to 12. Yesterday we replaced the 
manifold on the Pisten Bully (MB content). I was feeling it and took a long nap 
afterward.
We got the new manifold in but need a piece of 3" flex pipe to finish the 
exhaust. The old exhaust was terribly rotted, had to replace like 2 feet of 
pipe but now the folks running the machine shouldn't get asphyxiated anymore.
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 10:01:04 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 It was and I did too, which was way past my normal bed time. I then could not 
go to sleep and I and fairly confident I never went to sleep at all last night. 
Finally just got up. Starting to feel it now, I just go lay back down 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was made to suffer through the remains of Dick Clark Rockin New Year blah 
> Blah.  It was predictably awful.
> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2019 at 11:29 PM
>> Indeed.We watched the festivities in NYC on YouTube, definitely the discount 
>> coverage...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 12:00:35 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> East coast friends
>> 
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[MBZ] Hmmmm cash in my gains?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Can I scrape up $30k right quick?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-mercedes-benz-e55-amg-sedan-7/

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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I also buy a lot of stuff from the classic center, they stock a surprising
amount of things.  Last friday I had them overnight me connecting rod bolts
for a M117, they had them in stock.  They can certainly get you these.

The control arms are:

1243303407
1243303507

List is around $250 each.

These more also be worth trying...TRW made the ones I got from MB:
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-suspension-control-arm-1243303507

Jaime



On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:51 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, you and Jaime both have good stealers nearby.  Few stealers have
> parts dept's willing or capable of obtaining parts for 20-50 yr old cars.
>
> The CC is the only option for many of us.
>
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > January 1, 2020 at 5:44 PM
> > Despite my snarkiness, I am in total agreement with Jaime. Yes, both
> > of us have “deals” with *our* dealers, but even taking that out of the
> > equation when the factory part isn’t that much more cost-wise *and*
> > far superior in construction then the aftermarket alternative, why
> > wouldn’t you buy from the dealer?
> >
> > That and because this is a mission critical part. You sure as heck
> > don’t want an LCA, bushings or ball joint coming unglued while you’re
> > flying down the highway…
> >
> > -D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] excessive data usage

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why mess with GPOs, which are easy to circumvent, when you can do all the dirty 
work at the router?

Kick QoS in for his MAC address and he’ll be under control no matter what.

-D


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> set up your windows firewall to block that crap.   Group policies work too, 
> you can set up GP so that you can, but other users (Kid type) can't.   And if 
> you are really cagey, you can set it up so that even if he changes the name, 
> he still can't download the game.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> January 1, 2020 at 6:08 PM
>> Actually I think I figured it out. Kid says he is downloading some Xbox games
>> 
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