Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Clay via Mercedes]

I consider writing extended interpretations of the stories in posting video, 
but then that turns into my opinion, which robs you of coming to your own 
conclusions.  There are some on list who would find wildly divergent meanings 
from the same source material.

clay

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, evidence of the decline of civilization. Too many "news" websites do 
> this, and other sites as well. They write a headline, maybe a brief intro, 
> and then link to a video. I rarely watch the video.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

[Clay via Mercedes]

I am learning that it takes a special kind of crazy to live up here.  I have 
crazy, but not that sort.  The type up here are probably seen by the crazies in 
Idaho as rather hard core over the top.  

clay


> On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Very possible.
> 
> I can say that I have been to places there that are so amazingly remote that 
> it’s scary sometimes. Many (most) of the Aleutian islands are uninhabited, 
> and have rarely been visited on a regular basis. We had to be very careful 
> about staying on trails and following markers that had been placed for 
> navigating our way to various sites as there is still a great deal of 
> unexploded ordinance around from WWII.
> 
> While most of the sites I visited were analog (this was in the early to mid 
> 1990s) they did typically have satellite uplinks for transmitting data back 
> to the USGS or the monitoring agency (AVO). However, the transmission speeds 
> to the satellites was said to be very slow, like in the 2400 baud range. 
> There were a few sites that were “collectors” of sorts where multiple 
> monitoring stations would feed into a main station via line of sight 
> microwave or radio that had more robust power systems and had the ability to 
> store and forward data and transmit it at higher speeds.
> 
> I recall being on Gareloi, which is on a tiny island west of Adak called 
> Tanaga, Adak one of the bases we worked out of. This place was so remote it 
> was unreal. The island is nothing but a huge volcanic cone sticking out of 
> the Bering Sea about 5,000 feet high. If I recall correctly, there were at 
> least two monitoring stations we serviced, maybe three. This required us to 
> make a landing on the rocky coast in a inflatable boat and then hiking 
> several klicks to get to the huts.  Weather was highly variable and could and 
> did change between setting out from the coast and arriving at the huts. You 
> tried to go when the weather was “good”, which is a relative term, but we all 
> had to carry survival gear in the event things went south. And yes, you 
> packed everything in and out. Not for the weak or out of shape. Even if your 
> stuff didn’t need much, you packed in as much as the next guy by filling out 
> what room you had open in your pack.
> 
> Understand that some of these volcanoes are so remote that the only way the 
> USGS or AVO knows there have been eruptions is when they get reports from 
> aircraft flying over or fishing boats passing by. According to the guys I 
> worked with from the USGS and AVO (Alaska Volcano Observatory, which I 
> believe is part of UA in Fairbanks) at any given time only about 75% of the 
> monitoring stations are operational due to equipment failures or related 
> issues. The logistics of getting to them on a regular basis was pretty 
> outrageous.
> 
> Clay, if your speaker did this for 16 years, he’s a seriously grizzled 
> veteran. I can’t even begin to imagine doing it for 2-3 years. It was extreme 
> in so many ways I can’t begin to describe it.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the trip 
from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this week 
sometime.

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> On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
> 
> does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 12" 
> socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug wrenches are 
> too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the extension.
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This 211 $500E500

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Do all w211's have fold down back seats?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> The first one I saw was in 85-87 or thereabouts.  It was a mazda 626,
> and I was amazed when the owner folded down the back seat and shoved
> long stuff in the trunk.
>
> > OK Don via Mercedes 
> > February 9, 2020 at 6:25 PM
> > Those seat backs are a standard item on most cars these days - both the
> > 2012 VW and the current Subaru have them. Very handy for runs to the big
> > box home stores when you didn't think to take the truck.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] This 211 $500E500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The first one I saw was in 85-87 or thereabouts.  It was a mazda 626, 
and I was amazed when the owner folded down the back seat and shoved 
long stuff in the trunk.



OK Don via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 6:25 PM
Those seat backs are a standard item on most cars these days - both the
2012 VW and the current Subaru have them. Very handy for runs to the big
box home stores when you didn't think to take the truck.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <




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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Bingo!

The last math class I had in kolledge, the prof (first math class with a 
prof.) early on showed us how to use differential equations to find area 
of complex shapes, like aircraft wings.   It woulda made all the 
calculus a lot easier to learn if SOMEONE had shown us some practical 
application of what we were trying to learn.


But we digress.  The "barn find" info just needed to convey a few 
facts.   Who, what, where, when,  why.   That info is better conveyed in 
words.

dan--- via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 3:40 PM
Most importantly, practical application. Being able to relate the 
activity to a known process or skill (I believe) makes it that much 
easier to learn and understand.


-D




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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Spaced repetition and hands on training is the basis of adult ed.    
LIve training is always the best.   Curt and Dan are expert trainers for 
hands on, Live.


Yes, Max, a combination or reading, studying, and hands on instruction, 
and then implementing the new skills is a great way to convey knowledge.


However the video ( I didn't watch) that started my question was nothing 
more than to convey a few facts.   In that case, all I need is a little 
text to convey the facts.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 3:12 PM
Perhaps it is the combination of time spent reading / studying which is
followed by visual or hands-on instruction that brings about the
transformation?
-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I like audio books for trips of 500 to 1000 miles.   but the cd player 
in the van broke years ago, so no audiobooks.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 1:32 PM
I was never a big fan of audiobooks, but I like podcasts.


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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I agree, that there are places where video is good, or even better.

But I tend to remember Dragnet more and more:   "Just the facts, Ma'am."



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 1:06 PM

Both types of media have their place. For facts, knowledge, and some 
entertainment, reading is my preference. For some hands on type 
education, I find video to be best. I always struggled with written 
assembly instructions (insert tab a into slot b) when I was much 
younger. Watching someone do it, even at double speed, the light goes 
on in my head and I say to myself "ooohhh, that's how it's done". 
Podcasts and audiobooks have their place too. It's pretty darn hard to 
read a book while you're driving.


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

too bad.    I'd rather not have the ONP NOT blow her top!

Yeah, I rarely look at fakebuch links, unless subsequent comments stir 
interest, and I rarely watch linked videos.   Most of them take 5+ 
minutes to try to impart what I could read in 15 to 30 seconds.


Pierre's rants are interesting, but generally take too much time to get 
the message across.

Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 12:37 PM
Max is correct. No one wants to read anymore. Even within the realm of 
training humans to run the big old nuke plant, what used to be neat 
and tidy lesson plans on systems and components have now evolved into 
YouTube type videos or VR sessions.

I’m not a fan. I’m a dinosaur. Time to retire for reals.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] This 211 $500E500

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Those seat backs are a standard item on most cars these days - both the
2012 VW and the current Subaru have them. Very handy for runs to the big
box home stores when you didn't think to take the truck.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I noticed the rear seat backs fold down like on an SUV and you can get a
> pretty big load area from the trunk. Kinda weird but I like it. I think
> it’s like a ski option or something.
>


-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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[MBZ] OT Car Gear You May Like

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I bought this blue tooth adapter back in December, to add blue tooth
capability to the radio in the '95 E300 I bought from Dan.  The car came
with a nice aftermarket radio but it lacked blue tooth; this adapter solves
that problem.  I think I paid $18, now it looks like they are $20 for Prime
members.  My radio has an Aux-in jack that this adapter plugs into.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075JBLGLB?psc=1=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details

After a month of use, I'm pretty happy and would recommend this if you need
to add blue tooth to your car's radio, and your radio has an Aux-in jack.
This adapter allows me to stream my podcasts to the radio, and also make
phone calls.  So far everyone has been able to hear me talk via phone when
I've used it, so the little microphone built into the adapter seems to be
OK.

This adapter does require a USB power source to charge its battery.  The
battery is a nice feature, sort of an UPS for the adapter, so when I shut
off the car at a long stop but want to keep the radio playing my podcast,
the blue tooth link between my phone and the adapter is not lost when I
cycle the ignition to off and then back to the accessory position.

While I was considering the purchase of this adapter, I found the same
company makes another version which can either receive audio or send audio,
depending on your needs.  For instance, if you wanted to stream the audio
from your TV to blue tooth ear buds or headphones, you could to that.  You
could also use it to feed audio from your device into a radio or audio
system with an Aux-in jack.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Most importantly, practical application. Being able to relate the activity to a 
known process or skill (I believe) makes it that much easier to learn and 
understand.

-D

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps it is the combination of time spent reading / studying which is
> followed by visual or hands-on instruction that brings about the
> transformation?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Totally agree.
>> 
>> I am a visual learner, and while I tried and tried to get a tool we use
>> for searching called “regex” down by reading various manuals and online
>> tutorials, the light didn’t turn on until I sat through an online class
>> using practical applications of it. As I saw the instructor putting things
>> together on the screen it started to finally make sense.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 3:39 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For what it's worth, I started using GIMP about a decade ago.  All the
>>> online instruction manuals didn't do me a lick of good.  But a one hour
>>> seminar at a convention, where folks demonstrated HOW to use the app,
>> and
>>> I was working it like a pro!
>>> 
>>> So, there IS use for monkey see, monkey do, still!
>>> 
>>> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Perhaps it is the combination of time spent reading / studying which is
followed by visual or hands-on instruction that brings about the
transformation?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Totally agree.
>
> I am a visual learner, and while I tried and tried to get a tool we use
> for searching called “regex” down by reading various manuals and online
> tutorials, the light didn’t turn on until I sat through an online class
> using practical applications of it. As I saw the instructor putting things
> together on the screen it started to finally make sense.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 9, 2020, at 3:39 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > For what it's worth, I started using GIMP about a decade ago.  All the
> > online instruction manuals didn't do me a lick of good.  But a one hour
> > seminar at a convention, where folks demonstrated HOW to use the app,
> and
> > I was working it like a pro!
> >
> > So, there IS use for monkey see, monkey do, still!
> >
> > -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Totally agree.

I am a visual learner, and while I tried and tried to get a tool we use for 
searching called “regex” down by reading various manuals and online tutorials, 
the light didn’t turn on until I sat through an online class using practical 
applications of it. As I saw the instructor putting things together on the 
screen it started to finally make sense.

-D

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 3:39 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, I started using GIMP about a decade ago.  All the
> online instruction manuals didn't do me a lick of good.  But a one hour
> seminar at a convention, where folks demonstrated HOW to use the app,  and
> I was working it like a pro!
> 
> So, there IS use for monkey see, monkey do, still!
> 
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] This 211 $500E500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

A beautiful day to be outside!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 9, 2020 3:40:03 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> I’m out fooling with this thing I bought off this guy who took it on an 
> off-road excursion. I noticed the rear seat backs fold down like on an SUV 
> and you can get a pretty big load area from the trunk. Kinda weird but I like 
> it. I think it’s like a ski option or something.
> 
> The air pump for the suspension is running but the excursion appears to have 
> knocked off some hoses. I might see if I can get them back together and try 
> to get the thing unslammed
> 
> --FT
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[MBZ] This 211 $500E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’m out fooling with this thing I bought off this guy who took it on an 
off-road excursion. I noticed the rear seat backs fold down like on an SUV and 
you can get a pretty big load area from the trunk. Kinda weird but I like it. I 
think it’s like a ski option or something. 

The air pump for the suspension is running but the excursion appears to have 
knocked off some hoses. I might see if I can get them back together and try to 
get the thing unslammed 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

For what it's worth, I started using GIMP about a decade ago.  All the
online instruction manuals didn't do me a lick of good.  But a one hour
seminar at a convention, where folks demonstrated HOW to use the app,  and
I was working it like a pro!

So, there IS use for monkey see, monkey do, still!

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was never a big fan of audiobooks, but I like podcasts. There’s a realy good 
daily one from the University of Houston called “The Engines of Our Ingenuity” 
and is done by their college of Engineering. It’s about how our culture is 
formed by human creativity. It’s typically about 4-5 minutes long and does a 
great job packing the information into such a short format. It’s been around as 
a radio short since 1988.

https://uh.edu/engines/ 

Stuff You Should Know is also pretty good, too, although it’s a long format 
show, so it takes an hour or so of commitment for most programs. They have a 
short version that’s good, too. I just listened to an episode about the Tulsa 
race riot of 1921. Pretty amazing stuff.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stuff-you-should-know/id278981407 


-D


> On Feb 9, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> No one wants to read anymore. Even within the >realm of training humans to 
>> run the big old nuke >plant, what used to be neat and tidy lesson plans on 
>> >systems and components have now evolved into >YouTube type videos or VR 
>> sessions.
> 
> Both types of media have their place. For facts,  knowledge, and some 
> entertainment, reading is my preference. For some hands on type education, I 
> find video to be best. I always struggled with written assembly instructions 
> (insert tab a into slot b) when I was much younger. Watching someone do it, 
> even at double speed, the light goes on in my head and I say to myself 
> "ooohhh, that's how it's done". Podcasts and audiobooks have their place too. 
> It's pretty darn hard to read a book while you're driving. 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>No one wants to read anymore. Even within the >realm of training humans to run 
>the big old nuke >plant, what used to be neat and tidy lesson plans on 
>>systems and components have now evolved into >YouTube type videos or VR 
>sessions.

Both types of media have their place. For facts,  knowledge, and some 
entertainment, reading is my preference. For some hands on type education, I 
find video to be best. I always struggled with written assembly instructions 
(insert tab a into slot b) when I was much younger. Watching someone do it, 
even at double speed, the light goes on in my head and I say to myself "ooohhh, 
that's how it's done". Podcasts and audiobooks have their place too. It's 
pretty darn hard to read a book while you're driving. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Max is correct. No one wants to read anymore. Even within the realm of training 
humans to run the big old nuke plant, what used to be neat and tidy lesson 
plans on systems and components have now evolved into YouTube type videos or VR 
sessions.
I’m not a fan. I’m a dinosaur. Time to retire for reals. 

Bob R

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> On Feb 9, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, evidence of the decline of civilization. Too many "news" websites do 
> this, and other sites as well. They write a headline, maybe a brief intro, 
> and then link to a video. I rarely watch the video.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 9, 2020 12:15:20 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :
> 
>> Does anyone else find it irritating that nobody wants to write the
>> story, they just want to make you suffer through some video?
>> 
>> 
>>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> February 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM
>>> 
>>> The video is really interesting. Kinda disturbing historical content
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> https://drivetribe.com/p/barn-find-of-the-century-EaRGQ3QBRniXfRHqxniQkQ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, evidence of the decline of civilization. Too many "news" websites do this, 
and other sites as well. They write a headline, maybe a brief intro, and then 
link to a video. I rarely watch the video.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 9, 2020 12:15:20 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :

> Does anyone else find it irritating that nobody wants to write the
> story, they just want to make you suffer through some video?
> 
> 
> > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > February 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM
> > 
> > The video is really interesting. Kinda disturbing historical content
> > though.
> > 
> > https://drivetribe.com/p/barn-find-of-the-century-EaRGQ3QBRniXfRHqxniQkQ
> > 
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Does anyone else find it irritating that nobody wants to write the 
story, they just want to make you suffer through some video?



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
February 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM

The video is really interesting. Kinda disturbing historical content 
though.


https://drivetribe.com/p/barn-find-of-the-century-EaRGQ3QBRniXfRHqxniQkQ


--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Oel

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well it meets the spec for my Mercedes. Lately I cannot find the big jugs of M1 
at Wally world, and the individual quarts are about $8 each so that's not a 
good deal.

Maybe I'll try this, but I'd rather use M1.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 9, 2020 8:50:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :

> The two VW specs are pretty old. 505.00 expired with the VE diesels in 2003.
> 
> Curt
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> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:49 PM, Max Dillon via 
> Mercedes wrote:
> Well look at this!
> 
> Castrol EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 meets a host of licensing requirements and 
> specifications: API SN, API SM, API SL, API SJ, API CF, ACEA A3/B3, ACEA A3/B4
> Meets Ford WSS-M2C937-A
> MB-Approval 229.3/ 229.5
> Porsche A40
> VW 502 00/ 505 00
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 8, 2020 1:38:24 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :
> 
> 
> > That is why I made a distinction: OLD M1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > > February 8, 2020 at 10:25 AM
> > > M1 is Dino oil too.
> > > 
> > > 
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[MBZ] Barn find of the century?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The video is really interesting. Kinda disturbing historical content though. 

https://drivetribe.com/p/barn-find-of-the-century-EaRGQ3QBRniXfRHqxniQkQ


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[MBZ] DriveTribe: Mercedes abandon coupe and cabriolet for upcoming S-Class

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Mercedes abandon coupe and cabriolet for upcoming S-Class
You've only got two years left to save up and order onePosted on DriveTribe by 
Mustafa Arifeen. If you want a grand tourer built by a mad German scientist 
that can zip you across the Autobahn at immense speeds in ultra-luxury, then 
the Mercedes-Benz S-Class Coupe and Cabriolet are the answer. Unfortunately due 
to low...

Read in DriveTribe: https://apple.news/AuCRCU9afQfSHj7IiQ8B9vw


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[MBZ] OT DriveTribe: White Huracan turns yellow, owner sues dealership

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White Huracan turns yellow, owner sues dealership
The car allegedly started changing colour just days after delivery. Posted on 
DriveTribe by Angus Martin. When selecting the perfect colour for a brand-new 
supercar, it’s not uncommon to pay thousands of extra dollars to get the finish 
one wants. With such mind-boggling price tags, it would seem obvious that the 
paint used would be...

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Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lots of “good money”. The locals (Inuits?) took over the Navy’s installation on 
Adak and use it to refuel fishing boats. They offer wilderness outings on the 
island, too. Used to be the only way you could go to Adak and Shemya was to go 
along with an AK DNR person, which required a permit.

When I was out that way everything was still under the control of the Navy 
(Adak) and Air Force (Shemya).

-D

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:06 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let’s go on an adventure!
> 
> Seriously there are people who would pay good money to do that stuff 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Very possible.
>> 
>> I can say that I have been to places there that are so amazingly remote that 
>> it’s scary sometimes. Many (most) of the Aleutian islands are uninhabited, 
>> and have rarely been visited on a regular basis. We had to be very careful 
>> about staying on trails and following markers that had been placed for 
>> navigating our way to various sites as there is still a great deal of 
>> unexploded ordinance around from WWII.
>> 
>> While most of the sites I visited were analog (this was in the early to mid 
>> 1990s) they did typically have satellite uplinks for transmitting data back 
>> to the USGS or the monitoring agency (AVO). However, the transmission speeds 
>> to the satellites was said to be very slow, like in the 2400 baud range. 
>> There were a few sites that were “collectors” of sorts where multiple 
>> monitoring stations would feed into a main station via line of sight 
>> microwave or radio that had more robust power systems and had the ability to 
>> store and forward data and transmit it at higher speeds.
>> 
>> I recall being on Gareloi, which is on a tiny island west of Adak called 
>> Tanaga, Adak one of the bases we worked out of. This place was so remote it 
>> was unreal. The island is nothing but a huge volcanic cone sticking out of 
>> the Bering Sea about 5,000 feet high. If I recall correctly, there were at 
>> least two monitoring stations we serviced, maybe three. This required us to 
>> make a landing on the rocky coast in a inflatable boat and then hiking 
>> several klicks to get to the huts.  Weather was highly variable and could 
>> and did change between setting out from the coast and arriving at the huts. 
>> You tried to go when the weather was “good”, which is a relative term, but 
>> we all had to carry survival gear in the event things went south. And yes, 
>> you packed everything in and out. Not for the weak or out of shape. Even if 
>> your stuff didn’t need much, you packed in as much as the next guy by 
>> filling out what room you had open in your pack.
>> 
>> Understand that some of these volcanoes are so remote that the only way the 
>> USGS or AVO knows there have been eruptions is when they get reports from 
>> aircraft flying over or fishing boats passing by. According to the guys I 
>> worked with from the USGS and AVO (Alaska Volcano Observatory, which I 
>> believe is part of UA in Fairbanks) at any given time only about 75% of the 
>> monitoring stations are operational due to equipment failures or related 
>> issues. The logistics of getting to them on a regular basis was pretty 
>> outrageous.
>> 
>> Clay, if your speaker did this for 16 years, he’s a seriously grizzled 
>> veteran. I can’t even begin to imagine doing it for 2-3 years. It was 
>> extreme in so many ways I can’t begin to describe it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe the feller giving the lecture I attended is out there undoing your 
>>> good work in the Aleutians. Been working the past 16 years doing upkeep and 
>>> modernizing the monitoring stations.  Looked like a good job for a young 
>>> man (who must now be closing on in 40).  He is the last of the people 
>>> capable of keeping the analog systems functional.
>>> 
>>> He did tell of one volcano which had a very pretty dome coated in snow one 
>>> year, the next it had become melted away into a crater lake.  The upwelling 
>>> heated CO2 percolated through the water dropping pH to 0.  The glacial dam 
>>> melted away, drained the acid lake, which burnt the trees and stripped the 
>>> hair off moose.  No photos of the aftermath.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
> On Feb 8, 2020, at 3:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Some of those sites used to have very crude and basic on-demand generator 
 sets. I worked with the USGS shortly after Mt. St. Helens blew it’s top to 
 set up remote monitoring stations around the volcano and surrounds to 
 monitor seismic activity. Fun stuff, if you can get over the dust. We did 
 similar sites that were a bit more permanent with the USGS across the 
 Aleutians at volcanoes like Pavlof, Cleveland and Shishaldin. Lots of 
 instrumentation at these locations, but no humans.
 
 Another 

Re: [MBZ] Oel

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The two VW specs are pretty old. 505.00 expired with the VE diesels in 2003.

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   
Well look at this!

Castrol EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 meets a host of licensing requirements and 
specifications: API SN, API SM, API SL, API SJ, API CF, ACEA A3/B3, ACEA A3/B4
Meets Ford WSS-M2C937-A
MB-Approval 229.3/ 229.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00/ 505 00


Max Dillon
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Feb 8, 2020 1:38:24 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :

> That is why I made a distinction: OLD M1
> 
> 
> > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The key word is “occupied”. While Attu and Adak were a few of the islands that 
had established installations, all of those islands in between were just spots 
to hopscotch from one to the next. Many of them are close enough to see from 
one to the other, and open boats were more than adequate to transit from one to 
the next. The locals (indigenous folks) moved from one to another regularly to 
hunt and fish. We often had at least one person in our group that was a local 
who added a lot of background to our travels as we moved around. That made it 
pretty cool, I thought.

Figure that a couple of islands might be 10-15 miles apart, but both have peaks 
(often volcanoes) that are as much as 4,000-5,000 feet high. That makes it 
pretty easy to see from a distance.

-D

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 12:36 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it was attu and adak that were occupied by the Japanese in WWII.   
> SWMBO got me a book to read last spring from the welfare bookstore.   It was 
> about a destroyer who spent longer than any other ship in that area.   It was 
> nasty cold awful service.   When the destroyer went back to port, all the 
> other navy men thought she had a derelict crew because everything was rusty, 
> but the fact was that the weather was so nasty and the ship coated with ice 
> so much that there was no way to scrape or paint anything.   Wish I could 
> remember the name of the ship.
> 
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>> February 8, 2020 at 11:17 PM
>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 20:20:31 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> See pictures attached.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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