Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop repair

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My limited experience is that the socket breaks loose from the PCB,
and eventually the connection fails.  It can be repaired, but it's a giant
PITA.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Do any of you old farts know cobol?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/06/new-jersey-seeks-cobol-programmers-to-fix-unemployment-system.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Pinball Blog

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No, if you’re talking about the playfield. There’s no real repair you can do to 
the old playfields short of a complete strip and re-do, which really doesn’t 
make a lot of sense for a game like this. Cabinets can be repainted pretty 
easily, but this one has a decent cabinet.

There’s a little bit of wear in some places and what’s referred to in the 
pinball world as “planking” of the playfield. Thats’s when you see the parallel 
lines in the paint that’s due to the wood swelling and contracting from 
humidity over time. No fix for it. The best thing to do on something like this 
is to just wipe the playfield down with naptha, which won’t affect the paint, 
and wax it it with a good quality carnuaba based wax. That’s what I’ll be doing 
tomorrow, I suspect.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> So the do you have,to repaint it?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 7:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Set up a blog on my website to cover the restoration of the Williams 
> “Klondike” pinball machine. Started in on it this afternoon after work. Got 
> the playfield pretty much stripped and all of the posts and hardware cleaned. 
> Tomorrow I’ll break out the naptha and start cleaning the playfield surface.
> 
> http://penoff.com/Williams_Klondike/Williams_Klondike.html 
>  
>  >
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop repair

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I just measured the voltage on the power supply connector for our HP 2730
Elitebook and found the center pin also measures 19V to the outer sleeve. I
can't get the probes in to measure the center pin vs the inner sleeve.
YMMV

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 6:57 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have been using our HP 8460P Elitebook laptop to connect to church and
> other meetings.
>
> Yesterday I noticed the laptop was running on battery when I had the
> power supply's DC cord plugged into the laptop. I measured the voltage at
> the DC power plug and found the power supply was indeed outputting the 19
> VDC it was supposed to.
>
> I had originally thought the slender center pin was the power connection,
> but I found there is an inner cylinderical ring which actually carries
> the power along with the cylinderial ring on the outside of the plug.
>
> Does anyone know what the slender center pin does?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] OT: Laptop repair

[Craig via Mercedes]

I have been using our HP 8460P Elitebook laptop to connect to church and
other meetings.

Yesterday I noticed the laptop was running on battery when I had the
power supply's DC cord plugged into the laptop. I measured the voltage at
the DC power plug and found the power supply was indeed outputting the 19
VDC it was supposed to.

I had originally thought the slender center pin was the power connection,
but I found there is an inner cylinderical ring which actually carries
the power along with the cylinderial ring on the outside of the plug.

Does anyone know what the slender center pin does?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Pinball Blog

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

So the do you have,to repaint it?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 7:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Set up a blog on my website to cover the restoration of the Williams
> “Klondike” pinball machine. Started in on it this afternoon after work. Got
> the playfield pretty much stripped and all of the posts and hardware
> cleaned. Tomorrow I’ll break out the naptha and start cleaning the
> playfield surface.
>
> http://penoff.com/Williams_Klondike/Williams_Klondike.html <
> http://penoff.com/Williams_Klondike/Williams_Klondike.html>
>
> -D
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[MBZ] OT - Pinball Blog

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Set up a blog on my website to cover the restoration of the Williams “Klondike” 
pinball machine. Started in on it this afternoon after work. Got the playfield 
pretty much stripped and all of the posts and hardware cleaned. Tomorrow I’ll 
break out the naptha and start cleaning the playfield surface.

http://penoff.com/Williams_Klondike/Williams_Klondike.html 


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Beer virus

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Mine has been pushed out to "eventually"...

Curt

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  On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino via 
Mercedes wrote:   My cardiologist just called to change 
my annual visit to telemedicine.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2020 12:15 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

I went to the doctor’s office this morning for an appointment, picked 
up/dropped off some dry cleaning, swung by the Ace hardware to get a can of 
naptha so I can start cleaning the playfield on the pinball machine, and went 
by the bank.

Other than the hardware store, where I wore a mask and maintained separation, I 
didn’t have to directly interact with anyone. Well, the doctor’s office I did, 
but they were all gloved, gowned and masked.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty much the only time I travel among other people is to get groceries. I 
> go to the park every day or two. Saturday I put out a game camera to scout 
> turkeys and spent the afternoon fishing. I caught 3 brook trout, 2 small ones 
> that I managed to land and release and one great big one, probably a foot 
> long that spit out the hook right in front of me just before I grabbed him. 
> Dang...
> -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:45:58 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:  
> 
> We need a good reason to travel, e.g. groceries, work in a critical industry, 
> car repair, doctor's visit.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was legal 
>or advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued passes 
>for "essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered the idea of 
>lockdown.
> -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
>  Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
>effective?
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
>> it's safe and effective.
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> More good news!
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> :
>>> 
 
>>> https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-ivermectin-antiparasitic-drug-kills-covid19-in-lab/news-story/615c435e56aefc4b704f4fd890bd4c2c
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, and it even looks like the steering wheel buttons for the telematics 
aren’t even worn off.  Right down the street from my mother in law’s place - 
and around the corner from the guy who is trying to sell that white hail 
damaged W211 E320 CDI for too much money, too. Dang. I would love to go over 
there and flash $3k at the E320 CDI guy to see if he would bite.

-D 

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That does look pretty nice for the money. I would not be worried about the 
> miles If it was in good shape and seemed well maintained 
> 
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>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Considering the mileage it actually looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/holiday-2001-mercedes-e320/7104447022.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That does look pretty nice for the money. I would not be worried about the 
miles If it was in good shape and seemed well maintained 

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> On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Considering the mileage it actually looks pretty nice.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/holiday-2001-mercedes-e320/7104447022.html
>  
> 
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Considering the mileage it actually looks pretty nice.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/holiday-2001-mercedes-e320/7104447022.html
 


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[MBZ] Looks like this was nice before it got hit

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/753398851856144/


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[MBZ] I guess the last moron bought it from this moron

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This was the ad I had seen before. Different seller, same car. Looks like the 
new seller is trying to make some money after paying way way way too much for 
the car. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2561168803973293/


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[MBZ] This is what a moron seller looks like.

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes I have posted this before. I’m am still dumbfounded. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/236374860573928/


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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Beer virus

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My cardiologist just called to change my annual visit to telemedicine.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2020 12:15 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

I went to the doctor’s office this morning for an appointment, picked 
up/dropped off some dry cleaning, swung by the Ace hardware to get a can of 
naptha so I can start cleaning the playfield on the pinball machine, and went 
by the bank.

Other than the hardware store, where I wore a mask and maintained separation, I 
didn’t have to directly interact with anyone. Well, the doctor’s office I did, 
but they were all gloved, gowned and masked.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty much the only time I travel among other people is to get groceries. I 
> go to the park every day or two. Saturday I put out a game camera to scout 
> turkeys and spent the afternoon fishing. I caught 3 brook trout, 2 small ones 
> that I managed to land and release and one great big one, probably a foot 
> long that spit out the hook right in front of me just before I grabbed him. 
> Dang...
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:45:58 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>  wrote:  
> 
> We need a good reason to travel, e.g. groceries, work in a critical industry, 
> car repair, doctor's visit.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was legal 
> or advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued passes 
> for "essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered the idea 
> of lockdown.
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
> effective?
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
>> it's safe and effective.
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> More good news!
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> :
>>> 
 
>>> https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-ivermectin-antiparasitic-drug-kills-covid19-in-lab/news-story/615c435e56aefc4b704f4fd890bd4c2c
 
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Re: [MBZ] 31 minutes of useful information

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How about the soft top retraction?  All the key locking options?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Uh, it’s a 25yo Mercedes... but a lot of it works so that is pleasing.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Apr 6, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I watched every glorious minute.  Do all the bells and whistles work on
> your SL?
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcaoiul98zw
> >>
> >> --
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I’ve always had an affinity for hearses or ambulances as a design thing, not 
> for function.

May I assume that you find the Jag Hearse-let in "Harold and Maude" just the 
cutest thing, ever?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Missed that, I must have been busy buying more guns and ammo!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:23 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, it is not too likely to happen.
> I consider most of what I see over on okietalk to be US politics and
> since I am a Canadian living in Canada I do try to keep my opinions on
> what you folks are doing to myself.
> I did post a tongue in cheek comment over there suggesting you must all
> feel safer now that the President's son in law has been put in charge
> but not a single soul responded.
> Maybe that was all for the best.
>
> RB
>
> On 06/04/2020 2:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Randy - I'd love to take that conversation further on OkieTalk.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/04/2020 1:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe
> >> and effective?
> >> That is what you are doing right now. Consider it to be a success if you
> >> survive.
> >>
> >> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, it is not too likely to happen.
I consider most of what I see over on okietalk to be US politics and 
since I am a Canadian living in Canada I do try to keep my opinions on 
what you folks are doing to myself.
I did post a tongue in cheek comment over there suggesting you must all 
feel safer now that the President's son in law has been put in charge 
but not a single soul responded.

Maybe that was all for the best.

RB

On 06/04/2020 2:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Randy - I'd love to take that conversation further on OkieTalk.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On 06/04/2020 1:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe

and effective?
That is what you are doing right now. Consider it to be a success if you
survive.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] 31 minutes of useful information

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Uh, it’s a 25yo Mercedes... but a lot of it works so that is pleasing. 

--FT
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> On Apr 6, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I watched every glorious minute.  Do all the bells and whistles work on your 
> SL?
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcaoiul98zw
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I went to the doctor’s office this morning for an appointment, picked 
up/dropped off some dry cleaning, swung by the Ace hardware to get a can of 
naptha so I can start cleaning the playfield on the pinball machine, and went 
by the bank.

Other than the hardware store, where I wore a mask and maintained separation, I 
didn’t have to directly interact with anyone. Well, the doctor’s office I did, 
but they were all gloved, gowned and masked.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty much the only time I travel among other people is to get groceries. I 
> go to the park every day or two. Saturday I put out a game camera to scout 
> turkeys and spent the afternoon fishing. I caught 3 brook trout, 2 small ones 
> that I managed to land and release and one great big one, probably a foot 
> long that spit out the hook right in front of me just before I grabbed him. 
> Dang...
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:45:58 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>  wrote:  
> 
> We need a good reason to travel, e.g. groceries, work in a critical industry, 
> car repair, doctor's visit.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was legal 
> or advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued passes 
> for "essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered the idea 
> of lockdown.
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
> effective?
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
>> it's safe and effective.
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> More good news!
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> :
>>> 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy - I'd love to take that conversation further on OkieTalk.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 06/04/2020 1:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe
> and effective?
> >
> That is what you are doing right now. Consider it to be a success if you
> survive.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

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On 06/04/2020 1:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
effective?

That is what you are doing right now. Consider it to be a success if you 
survive.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Pretty much the only time I travel among other people is to get groceries. I 
go to the park every day or two. Saturday I put out a game camera to scout 
turkeys and spent the afternoon fishing. I caught 3 brook trout, 2 small ones 
that I managed to land and release and one great big one, probably a foot long 
that spit out the hook right in front of me just before I grabbed him. Dang...
-Curt

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:45:58 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 We need a good reason to travel, e.g. groceries, work in a critical industry, 
car repair, doctor's visit.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was legal or 
advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued passes for 
"essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered the idea of 
lockdown.
-Curt

    On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
effective?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
> it's safe and effective.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> More good news!
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >:
>>
>> >
>> https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-ivermectin-antiparasitic-drug-kills-covid19-in-lab/news-story/615c435e56aefc4b704f4fd890bd4c2c
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

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We need a good reason to travel, e.g. groceries, work in a critical
industry, car repair, doctor's visit.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was
> legal or advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued
> passes for "essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered
> the idea of lockdown.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and
> effective?
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
> > it's safe and effective.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> More good news!
> >>
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> >:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-ivermectin-antiparasitic-drug-kills-covid19-in-lab/news-story/615c435e56aefc4b704f4fd890bd4c2c
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Re: [MBZ] 31 minutes of useful information

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I watched every glorious minute.  Do all the bells and whistles work on
your SL?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcaoiul98zw
>
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The governor of MA said that he didn't think a stay at home order was legal or 
advisable. We're under an "advisory" although the state has issued passes for 
"essential workers" which suggests they've at least considered the idea of 
lockdown.
-Curt

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 2:25:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
effective?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
> it's safe and effective.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> More good news!
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >:
>>
>> >
>> https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-ivermectin-antiparasitic-drug-kills-covid19-in-lab/news-story/615c435e56aefc4b704f4fd890bd4c2c
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I thought an '85 190D was a pretty good car. It had the same hp as a 240D but 
weighed less. With the extra power I would expect a 240D 3.0 to be quite 
driveable with a 4spd.
Someday I want to build a 240D 3.0T 4spd. With a turbo engine and 4spd 
transmission the 123 platform would be really fun.
-CurtLoves bench building cars he'll probably never have.

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:31:29 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 11:43:57 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
> aspirated model. No Turbonium.

Our '82 240D/3.0 was a great car to drive, even in Los Alamos at
7000-7400'. There was no problem keeping up with traffic; one just
had to rev the engine up to near redline and there was plenty of power.
Admittedly, one did have to pay attention on freeway on-ramps and start
accelerating as hard as possible as soon as possible (just like our '89
BRV), but it was great. Nothing like our '72 220D/8, with its short first
gear.

      It runs and drives and its only $1,400 dollars!
      The bumpers alone are worth that.

I'm dubious of his claim. The car is, however, the right color for a hot
climate, unlike our Midnight Blue 240D/3.0.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

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Did anyone test the mass stay-at-home orders to be sure they are safe and 
effective?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
> it's safe and effective.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> More good news!
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> Apr 5, 2020 11:35:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >:
>>
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

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Hopefully, although it takes a year or more to test any vaccine to assure
it's safe and effective.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> More good news!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve always had an affinity for hearses or ambulances as a design thing, not 
for function. I think it started when I was a teenager and I wanted to buy a 
really nice 1964 Cadillac hearse that belonged to a schoolmate’s dad who ran a 
local funeral home. $500 bucks, it was in perfect condition, and was the 
classic black on black. Dad said, “There’s NO way I’m having a hearse parked in 
my driveway!!” so that was pretty much the end of that idea, and on I went to a 
1959 barn door VW van. Yeah, he wasn’t much happier about that.

I doubt very much you would find a “true” W123 conversion in the States, since 
anything was here would have to have been imported. I have wondered how common 
they are in Europe.

-D  

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want a 123 hearse or bambablance
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/6/20 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Believe me, I’m well aware of what the rest of the world got. I’ve looked 
>> over the literally hundreds of options available for a lot of models as well 
>> as seen and ridden in examples of such when working overseas.
>> 
>> I like looking at the odd options for things like taxis and police cars.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
>>> Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
>>> order.
>>> 
>>> Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
>>> combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
>>> luxury brand.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
 I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
 ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a
 functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
 but...
 
 -D
 
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[MBZ] 31 minutes of useful information

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcaoiul98zw

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

YES
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I want a 123 hearse or bambablance
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/6/20 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Believe me, I’m well aware of what the rest of the world got. I’ve
> looked over the literally hundreds of options available for a lot of models
> as well as seen and ridden in examples of such when working overseas.
> >
> > I like looking at the odd options for things like taxis and police cars.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
> >> Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
> >> order.
> >>
> >> Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
> >> combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
> >> luxury brand.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
> >>> ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary
> from a
> >>> functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
> >>> but...
> >>>
> >>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Occasionally you'll see a conversion where someone has turned a W123
into something like a El Camino or Ranchero. I've thought one of those
would be fun if it were nicely done.

Allan


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> I want a 123 hearse or bambablance
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/6/20 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Believe me, I’m well aware of what the rest of the world got. I’ve looked 
>> over the literally hundreds of options available for a lot of models as well 
>> as seen and ridden in examples of such when working overseas.
>>
>> I like looking at the odd options for things like taxis and police cars.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
>>> Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
>>> order.
>>>
>>> Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
>>> combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
>>> luxury brand.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>>
 I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
 ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a
 functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
 but...

 -D

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I want a 123 hearse or bambablance

--FT

On 4/6/20 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Believe me, I’m well aware of what the rest of the world got. I’ve looked over 
the literally hundreds of options available for a lot of models as well as seen 
and ridden in examples of such when working overseas.

I like looking at the odd options for things like taxis and police cars.

-D


On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
order.

Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
luxury brand.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:


I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a
functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
but...

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Believe me, I’m well aware of what the rest of the world got. I’ve looked over 
the literally hundreds of options available for a lot of models as well as seen 
and ridden in examples of such when working overseas.

I like looking at the odd options for things like taxis and police cars.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
> Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
> order.
> 
> Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
> combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
> luxury brand.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>> I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
>> ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a
>> functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
>> but...
>> 
>> -D
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

Our '82 240D manual had manual everything - including the sunroof. My
Grandfather bought it new - the most basic (cheapest) Mercedes he could
order.

Remember, that the rest of the world got all kinds of options and
combinations that we did't/don't get because in the US, MB is a
luxury brand.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so
> ridiculously simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a
> functional standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up,
> but...
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > Some of them did. MB produced some of the weirdest cars. I once test
> drove a 300D that was up optioned, leather, heated seats, and I can't
> remember what else EXCEPT, it had a manual sunroof...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:00:59 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I never understood why the domestic W123 sedans didn’t have the manual
> sunroof like the wagons did. That was the nicest thing as far as simplicity
> when it came to options in those cars. Grab the “T” handle, twist and pull
> back.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Would be faster than a 240D, and it may have manual climate controls.
> If
> > > it has crank windows, manual sunroof, might be ultimate nuclear
> apocalypse
> > > survival sedan.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
> > >> aspirated model. No Turbonium.
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> > >>>
> > >>> Interesting
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 11:19:16 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I actually don’t mind the non turbo versions. I would like to find a
> nice 81 300D. 

Well, you already have the '82 240D/3.0. Admittedly it's not "nice", but
it would not take too awful much work to repair the rear end and get it
on the road.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 11:43:57 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
> aspirated model. No Turbonium.

Our '82 240D/3.0 was a great car to drive, even in Los Alamos at
7000-7400'. There was no problem keeping up with traffic; one just
had to rev the engine up to near redline and there was plenty of power.
Admittedly, one did have to pay attention on freeway on-ramps and start
accelerating as hard as possible as soon as possible (just like our '89
BRV), but it was great. Nothing like our '72 220D/8, with its short first
gear.

   It runs and drives and its only $1,400 dollars!
   The bumpers alone are worth that.

I'm dubious of his claim. The car is, however, the right color for a hot
climate, unlike our Midnight Blue 240D/3.0.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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I wondered. It just seemed silly that they would take something so ridiculously 
simple and jazz it up when it wasn’t really necessary from a functional 
standpoint. I understand, like power windows versus roll up, but...

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Some of them did. MB produced some of the weirdest cars. I once test drove a 
> 300D that was up optioned, leather, heated seats, and I can't remember what 
> else EXCEPT, it had a manual sunroof...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:00:59 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I never understood why the domestic W123 sedans didn’t have the manual 
> sunroof like the wagons did. That was the nicest thing as far as simplicity 
> when it came to options in those cars. Grab the “T” handle, twist and pull 
> back.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Would be faster than a 240D, and it may have manual climate controls.  If
> > it has crank windows, manual sunroof, might be ultimate nuclear apocalypse
> > survival sedan.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
> >> aspirated model. No Turbonium.
> >> 
> >> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Interesting
> >>> 
> >>> Bob R
> >>> 
> >>> 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES
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 Some of them did. MB produced some of the weirdest cars. I once test drove a 
300D that was up optioned, leather, heated seats, and I can't remember what 
else EXCEPT, it had a manual sunroof...
-Curt

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:00:59 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I never understood why the domestic W123 sedans didn’t have the manual sunroof 
like the wagons did. That was the nicest thing as far as simplicity when it 
came to options in those cars. Grab the “T” handle, twist and pull back.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Would be faster than a 240D, and it may have manual climate controls.  If
> it has crank windows, manual sunroof, might be ultimate nuclear apocalypse
> survival sedan.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
>> aspirated model. No Turbonium.
>> 
>> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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This one definitely has manual climate controls. You can see the heater valves 
and cables on the firewall.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I actually don’t mind the non turbo versions. I would like to find a nice 81 
> 300D. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely. My first MB was a 1980 300TD, so patience was an absolute 
>> virtue when it came to performance. Not 240D level, but close to it.
>> 
>> I’m not besmirching the normally aspirated 617, but I will say that once 
>> you’ve driven a turbocharged version, it’s darned difficult to go back.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I kinda like the stateliness of the NA cars.  You just adjust your 
>>> expectations and enjoy the throbbing performance of the MILLION MILE engine
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 4/6/20 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally 
 aspirated model. No Turbonium.
 
 Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting
> 
> Bob R
> 
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I actually don’t mind the non turbo versions. I would like to find a nice 81 
300D. 

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> On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Absolutely. My first MB was a 1980 300TD, so patience was an absolute virtue 
> when it came to performance. Not 240D level, but close to it.
> 
> I’m not besmirching the normally aspirated 617, but I will say that once 
> you’ve driven a turbocharged version, it’s darned difficult to go back.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I kinda like the stateliness of the NA cars.  You just adjust your 
>> expectations and enjoy the throbbing performance of the MILLION MILE engine
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 4/6/20 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally aspirated 
>>> model. No Turbonium.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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I never understood why the domestic W123 sedans didn’t have the manual sunroof 
like the wagons did. That was the nicest thing as far as simplicity when it 
came to options in those cars. Grab the “T” handle, twist and pull back.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Would be faster than a 240D, and it may have manual climate controls.  If
> it has crank windows, manual sunroof, might be ultimate nuclear apocalypse
> survival sedan.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
>> aspirated model. No Turbonium.
>> 
>> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

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Would be faster than a 240D, and it may have manual climate controls.  If
it has crank windows, manual sunroof, might be ultimate nuclear apocalypse
survival sedan.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally
> aspirated model. No Turbonium.
>
> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely. My first MB was a 1980 300TD, so patience was an absolute virtue 
when it came to performance. Not 240D level, but close to it.

I’m not besmirching the normally aspirated 617, but I will say that once you’ve 
driven a turbocharged version, it’s darned difficult to go back.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> I kinda like the stateliness of the NA cars.  You just adjust your 
> expectations and enjoy the throbbing performance of the MILLION MILE engine
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/6/20 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally aspirated 
>> model. No Turbonium.
>> 
>> Otherwise it looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I kinda like the stateliness of the NA cars.  You just adjust your 
expectations and enjoy the throbbing performance of the MILLION MILE engine


--FT

On 4/6/20 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally aspirated 
model. No Turbonium.

Otherwise it looks pretty nice.

-D


On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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Interesting

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As long as you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. It’s a normally aspirated 
model. No Turbonium.

Otherwise it looks pretty nice.

-D

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> 
> Interesting
> 
> Bob R
> 
> 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That could be a reasonable deal if the interior is not trashed and the 
AC BLOWS ICE COLD.  Body looks good


--FT

On 4/6/20 11:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Interesting

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It's in AZ and they don't have any pics of the interior?
Mitch.

On 2020-04-06 10:35, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Interesting

Bob R

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1984 European 300D diesel clean az title RUNS AND DRIVES

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Interesting

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Max's COVID-19 vs H1N1 update

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 Weekly update.

Then and now:

H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.

COVID-19 As of today, 6 April:  ~337,000 cases, ~9600 deaths.

Plain Old Flu as killed ~24,000 Americans this season, estimated to top out
around 30,000.

On the good news front:

https://www.fda.gov.ph/fda-approves-rapid-antibody-test-kits-for-covid-19/

Next we need studies to determine the size of our population that has
already been exposed to the virus and recovered, and then we'll have a much
better model of the lethality of the virus (the denominator) and be able to
make some fact-based decisions about policy.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Beer virus

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

More good news!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Mr Pagoda wakes up!

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Pretty much, yes. It’s only really noticeable when you’re sitting still or when 
you first turn the key on to start.

It’s a stock Carter high pressure pump that was a little over $100 when I 
bought mine. The only hack involved was to block off the overflow line, I 
think. I’ve got pictures and some posts from another forum/list that explain 
how I did it if you want them, just let me know.

-D

> On Apr 5, 2020, at 10:10 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Yes I think I remember you had pump issues. Out of curiosity, does the 
> aftermarket pump make the same humming sound but just louder?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No such thing as an NOS one, only rebuilt, and not through any official 
>> channels, just third party rebuilders. Figure about $800-$1000 for a rebuilt 
>> one with yours as a core.
>> 
>> There is a $100 aftermarket pump that works just fine. I did one on my 
>> finnie and had no problems at all, other than it was a bit noisy compared to 
>> the original.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think they are like 2K now! I replaced that pump about 14 years ago and 
>>> paid $400 and change for it from Rusty. Times have changed!
>>> 
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> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yeah, you don’t want to have to replace one of those fuel pumps, believe 
 me.
 
 Glad it’s running (more or less.)
 
 -D
 
 
> On Apr 5, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> 
> So my 71 280SL has been in storage for 3.5 years. I’ve been too busy to 
> drive it or even start it. As I’m preparing my garage for the 
> installation of doors, I need to make room for the installers so the car 
> has to be moved outside for a few days. 
> Battery reads 12.04 volts which is very surprising after sitting for so 
> long. I put it on the charger for an hour or so then attempt to start. 
> Cranks fine but does not turn over. I notice that the fuel pump is dead 
> silent. Not good. I then wack it a bunch of times both on the side and 
> bottom and it starts to make some noise but not a healthy one. I then try 
> to start car again. Seems like it wants to start but battery losing 
> steam. Back on the charger for an hour and then I try again. The fuel 
> pump sounds great now and the car starts on the first try. The engine 
> runs smoothly without stalling! Wow. Gotta love these cars! Only issue is 
> brake pedal goes to the floor. Can’t win every battle but at least I was 
> able to get Mr. Pagoda outside!
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