Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Seems like someone with a magic printer could make the set for a whole lot
less.

Or, a CNC machine shop cut from sheet plastic.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 7:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-WHEEL-HUBCAP-HUB-CAP-STENCIL-SET-W123-300D-300CD-300TD-incl-PULLMAN-15/274410525178?hash=item3fe42451fa:g:2ikAAOSw~K5e9zQW
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[MBZ] Holy CRACK

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-WHEEL-HUBCAP-HUB-CAP-STENCIL-SET-W123-300D-300CD-300TD-incl-PULLMAN-15/274410525178?hash=item3fe42451fa:g:2ikAAOSw~K5e9zQW


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Re: [MBZ] This looks pretty nice, low miles E430

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sold.

-D

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gee that looks like a pretty good deal and really low miles. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1412614362274180/
>> 
>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 430 Sedan 4D
>> $3,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 4 hours ago in Winter Park, FL 
>> 
>> 
>> Driven 72,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>> 16.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
>> Very good condition 
>> 
>> 
>>  Typical Features…
>> 
>> *
>>  Moon Roof
>> *
>>  Alloy Wheels
>> *
>>  ABS
>> *
>>  AM/FM Stereo
>> *
>> 
>> 
>>  Seller's description…
>> 
>> 2000 Mercedes E 430 Sport Sedan. These have always been known as solid 
>> reliable great handling models from the start. The 430 is the higher model, 
>> with the very powerful 4.3 V8. Fast with vast power, while not giving up a 
>> lot of fuel economy. This car was very well cared for, and runs and drives 
>> like new. No. Smoker. Interior in very preserved original condition. Body 
>> and paint beautiful and I damaged. Air ice cold. All power works, including 
>> all windows, locks with the 2 keys and remotes, cruise, seats, incredible 
>> audio system, Zeno headlights. Great value in a high performance safe car, 
>> and they still command a ton of compliments. Perfect auto check, no 
>> accidents. Car fax no accidents. Mileage discrepancy on carfax, not on auto 
>> check. Priced to move fast.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This looks pretty nice, low miles E430

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Gee that looks like a pretty good deal and really low miles. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1412614362274180/
> 
> 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 430 Sedan 4D
> $3,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 hours ago in Winter Park, FL 
> 
> 
> Driven 72,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 16.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
> Very good condition 
> 
> 
>   Typical Features…
> 
> *
>   Moon Roof
> *
>   Alloy Wheels
> *
>   ABS
> *
>   AM/FM Stereo
> *
> 
> 
>   Seller's description…
> 
> 2000 Mercedes E 430 Sport Sedan. These have always been known as solid 
> reliable great handling models from the start. The 430 is the higher model, 
> with the very powerful 4.3 V8. Fast with vast power, while not giving up a 
> lot of fuel economy. This car was very well cared for, and runs and drives 
> like new. No. Smoker. Interior in very preserved original condition. Body and 
> paint beautiful and I damaged. Air ice cold. All power works, including all 
> windows, locks with the 2 keys and remotes, cruise, seats, incredible audio 
> system, Zeno headlights. Great value in a high performance safe car, and they 
> still command a ton of compliments. Perfect auto check, no accidents. Car fax 
> no accidents. Mileage discrepancy on carfax, not on auto check. Priced to 
> move fast.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

When I researched all this stuff, 7-8 years ago, Mitsu/Fuji were mostly
made in Japan, my Fuji was all Japanese. But more recently I've heard that
a lot of them are assembled in China, or sometimes assembled in home
country with world (China) components.

The central units, last I knew pretty much all of them had all-aluminum
coils and Copeland Scroll compressors, except for the ones with
proprietary inverter drive compressors. If it's over 18 SEER, it's PWM or
inverter drive. Most of the outdoor units were made in USA or Mexico.
Biggest failure point is the start/run capacitors.
Minor differences among the various heat pump units include demand defrost
vs timed defrost, and whether they come with block heaters and/or sound
deadening blankets. My Goodman came with a 40W (unnecessarily large IMO)
block heater, I added sound insulation and demand defrost. I shut off the
circuit breaker when it's not in use, the block heater costs a bit over a
dollar a week. I thought about replacing it with a 20W, or rewiring it to
120v/10W, but didn't bother with that. The purpose of the block heater is
to keep the compressor warmer than the indoor coil when not in use, so
that liquid refrigerant can't condense in the compressor and get into the
sump oil. If I turned it off, I turn it on 24 hours before I want to use
it, so that the block heater has time to cook the R410A out of the
compressor.

I don't know if Emerson/Copeland has gotten into the inverter market since
then or not. If they have, then the high end inverter models like
Carrier's Infinity might not be proprietary any more.



On Sat, June 27, 2020 4:43 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Mitch,  Thanks for the rundown.  Do you know where the big 3 are actually
>  made and where the parts come from?  As I recall the brochure for my
> Pioneer
> (years ago) said it had a Mitsubishi compressor but I see the current
> brochure shows GMCC compressors, whatever that is.  I know that many
> brands of the central ducted heat pump systems use the same parts.  I
> wondered if you had any insight if this is the case with mini-splits?


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Re: [MBZ] 1999 SLK. At salvage yard

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, June 27, 2020 3:56 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> lastvin.com  is your friend:
> 772   AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
> 794   AMG-WHEELS 7,5 X 17 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 37 VA 225/45


Interesting, I didn't know they had AMG-look in 1999.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Mitch,  Thanks for the rundown.  Do you know where the big 3 are actually
made and where the parts come from?  As I recall the brochure for my Pioneer
(years ago) said it had a Mitsubishi compressor but I see the current
brochure shows GMCC compressors, whatever that is.  I know that many brands
of the central ducted heat pump systems use the same parts.  I wondered if
you had any insight if this is the case with mini-splits?

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

The big 3 were traditionally considered Daikin, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
The next tier is pretty much LG and LG.

The 'I like Commies' choices would have Pioneer and Gree in the top tier,
then everything else.

Daikin wasn't an option for me, as there were no gray market distribution
channels 8 years ago. That seems to have changed since they were merged with
Goodman.

At any rate, 'inverter drive' is easily worth an extra couple hundred bucks
if you use it very much.

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 SLK. At salvage yard

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

lastvin.com  is your friend:

FIN WDB1704471F099621
VIN WDBKK47F5XF099621
Model Year  1999
Model   SLK230
Engine  111973 12 049328
Transmission722605 01 178767
Order Number0 9 704 72769
Order Location  UNITED STATES (USA)
InteriorLEATHER QUARTZ (225A)
Paint 1 BLACK (040U)
Delivery Date   1998-10-22
Approx. Build Date  1998-10
CodeDescription
200ALEATHER
231 GARAGE DOOR OPENER
249 REAR WINDOW, ELECTRICALLY HEATED
254 RADIO MB AUDIO 30 - USA
292 SIDEBAG
309 CUP HOLDER
423 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
441 STEERING COLUMN, ADJUSTABLE
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
494 U.S. VERSION
524 PAINTWORK - PRESERVATION
551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
580 AIR CONDITIONER
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
634 DELETION - FIRST AID KIT
636 DELETION - WARNING TRIANGLE
668 PACKAGING FOR SHIPPING VEHICLES WITH TIE-DOWN HOOK
669 SPARE WHEEL / FOLDING WHEEL
673 HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
794 AMG-WHEELS 7,5 X 17 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 37 VA 225/45
809 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR
810 SOUND SYSTEM
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM

Mercedes Benz VIN decoded at https://www.lastvin.com/vin/az1nGEyGM4OAxv67l

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WDBKK47F5XF099621

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[MBZ] 1999 SLK. At salvage yard

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hello can someone run a vin for me?
I am looking at a 1999 SLK for parts.
It's badged as a Sport model also has AMG badges. I would really like to grab 
the engine especially if it has been modified by AMG.  Vin # WDBKK47F5XF099621. 
 Options? Miles? Ownership history?  Thanks Ron Courcy.  
tron...@hotmail.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In my case this won’t be used a great deal, that is, maybe one day a week for 
6-8 hours, worst case scenario. I’m not sure that dropping $1000 on even an LG 
makes sense in my case. I notice that you’ve also got to buy a lot of additonal 
stuff, too, like a line set, cover for the lines, mounting pad or wall mount 
brackets for the condensor, etc…

Sounds like Scott had some luck with the Pioneer, which is one of the brands I 
see offered locally.I could probably do one of those installed for under $1000. 
Considering the limited duty cycle, I’m thinking I could roll the dice on one 
of these and probably come out OK.

One thing I did note - some of the cheap weird brand name mini splits 
apparently have SEER ratings in the low teens, like 13. According to one 
advertiser these are not legal for sale in the US. Interesting - gray market AC 
units!

-D

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I put a 9k Fujitsu in my living room, still needed a 5k window unit in the
> master bedroom to sleep in the worst weather as the bedroom door was 30'
> away from the heat pump. In the winter I put a thermostat in the bedroom,
> set it at 62 for sleeping, and ran the Fujitsu to heat the living room and
> kitchen to daytime living temps. It worked, sort of, a central air heat
> pump is more effective but less efficient.
> 
> I've got 1200 well insulated square feet, with a 18k heat pump and 40k
> furnace. The fixed speed heat pump can heat the house down to about 25
> degrees. Below that the furnace needs to take over. But with electricity
> over 15 cents and propane under $1, I don't use the heat pump at all. I
> figure I put about $200-250 a year worth of electricity through it cooling
> the house, so the payback on a more efficient more expensive unit would
> exceed the expected lifespan.
> 
> That original Fujitsu is still working fine, currently in the master
> bedroom of my parents' house.
> 
> This would probably work nicely in the areas near it, but you'd probably
> want another for the bedroom. It's the new and improved version of the one
> I had.
> https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-09LMAS1/p106473.html
> 
> This would do your whole house, but it's not cheap.
> https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-AOU24RLXFZ-2-ASU7RLF1-ASU9RLF1/p65951.html
> 
> On Sat, June 27, 2020 11:17 am, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I suspect we
>> can get by with something quite small, the house is only 900sq ft. Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Crusher ready.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Totally trashed. Worth scrap (less
> hauling cost)
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > "Will sell with oil refinery"
> > Translation:
> > I tried to make my own bio diesel in the garage. The injection pump and
> > fuel system is now snotted and plugged with half baked bio fuel made from
> > used cooking oil and I don't want to even try to get it sorted out.
> >
> > I'll take a betting pool position on that being the true condition of the
> > car, now setting in tall weeds.  "spare car for parts goes with the sale"
> > clinches my position [for me]
> > <<< Run Away>
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Trunk lid says "60SEL". WTF
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2617541501867081
> >>
> >> 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
> >> $1,995
> >> Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/>
> >> Listed a day ago in Summerville, SC
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>About This Vehicle…
> >>
> >> Driven 200,000 miles
> >> Automatic transmission
> >> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Black
> >> Fair condition 
> >>
> >>
> >>Seller's description…
> >>
> >> Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery. There
> >> is a second car that is for parts.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Check out those bumpers!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why are they mounted that way?  Looks like the front of a steam locomotive.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 1:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/270233097559957/
>
> Mercedes Benz 300SD
> $7,900
> Vehicles
> 
> ›
> Cars
> 
> Listed a day ago in Bristol, TN
> 
>
>
> Details
> …
>
>   *
> Condition
> Used - Good
>   *
> Brand
> Mercedes Benz 300SD, 4-door
>
> Collectors Item 2-Owners 213,000 miles Good-Fair Condition
>
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Re: [MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 You haven't lived until you have ridden in/owned a sorted W108/109 sedan.
They're easy to work on and very rewarding.  Driving at night with the
illuminated rainbow dash lights is a magical experience..

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:17 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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> It is probably 20 miles away from Hillsboro, and it’s 10 years older than
> me. It would be cool to have a Mercedes of my birth year. since I would
> prefer a Diesel, that  would leave me with a 1972 220D, quite primitive
> compared to my 240D. I like the 107 and 116, but I’ve never spent much time
> around a W108 SE or SEL.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 900 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D still in the shop
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 27, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > And it's an "S class", about as old as Kevin.
> > How far from Kevin is it?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On Sat, June 27, 2020 7:18 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Price keeps dropping.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.304
> >> 3779/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I put a 9k Fujitsu in my living room, still needed a 5k window unit in the
master bedroom to sleep in the worst weather as the bedroom door was 30'
away from the heat pump. In the winter I put a thermostat in the bedroom,
set it at 62 for sleeping, and ran the Fujitsu to heat the living room and
kitchen to daytime living temps. It worked, sort of, a central air heat
pump is more effective but less efficient.

I've got 1200 well insulated square feet, with a 18k heat pump and 40k
furnace. The fixed speed heat pump can heat the house down to about 25
degrees. Below that the furnace needs to take over. But with electricity
over 15 cents and propane under $1, I don't use the heat pump at all. I
figure I put about $200-250 a year worth of electricity through it cooling
the house, so the payback on a more efficient more expensive unit would
exceed the expected lifespan.

That original Fujitsu is still working fine, currently in the master
bedroom of my parents' house.

This would probably work nicely in the areas near it, but you'd probably
want another for the bedroom. It's the new and improved version of the one
I had.
https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-09LMAS1/p106473.html

This would do your whole house, but it's not cheap.
https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-AOU24RLXFZ-2-ASU7RLF1-ASU9RLF1/p65951.html

On Sat, June 27, 2020 11:17 am, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I suspect we
> can get by with something quite small, the house is only 900sq ft. Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The big 3 were traditionally considered Daikin, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
The next tier is pretty much LG and LG.

The 'I like Commies' choices would have Pioneer and Gree in the top tier,
then everything else.

Daikin wasn't an option for me, as there were no gray market distribution
channels 8 years ago. That seems to have changed since they were merged
with Goodman.

At any rate, 'inverter drive' is easily worth an extra couple hundred
bucks if you use it very much.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

You will see different SEER ratings and prices.  SEER applies only to cooling 
performance.  If heating is important, note that heating efficiency doesn't 
vary much.  The higher SEER may not be worth the extra cost.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Ritchey 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:15 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

Maybe 3-5 years ago I installed a 12K "Pioneer" brand mini-split from 
https://www.highseer.com/ in my "barn."  I too used a pro connect the 
refrigerant lines and do the initial startup.  My outdoor unit is also mounted 
on the outside wall with brackets to keep it off the ground.  As I recall, the 
equipment cost $600-700 (delivered) and the "pro" charged about $100-200 for 
startup.

Lessons learned:
-  My main install problem was a tight available space with non-standard stud 
spacing.  I really had to hunt (and punch small holes) to find a location where 
the big hole missed all the studs.
 --On the outside I had to install horizontal two-by boards for the brackets, 
again the studs were in the wrong places.  The brackets must align 
(horizontally)  with the feet on the outdoor unit.
 --The "pro" routed the refrigerant lines between the wall and outdoor unit.  
When fall came leaves piled up on the lines blocking air flow.  In winter Ice 
formed around the lines blocking air flow.  The defrost cycle cleared the coils 
but I needed a heat gun or salamander to clear the ice behind the unit.  This 
year I had another "pro" come back and reroute the lines.
 -- The initial "pro" did not understand that all expansion devices are in the 
outdoor unit and insisted on installing a service port in the liquid line 
(totally unnecessary).  This appears to be a common misperception.  At some 
point the Schrader valve in that added port began leaking.
 -- The outdoor unit of my Pioneer system looks exactly like the Mitsubishi 
unit later installed at our church.  The indoor units look different.  If you 
are looking at an generic brand, it is worthwhile (IMO) to call the suppliers 
to find out who actually makes their equipment.
 -- Other than the leaking Schrader valve and ice/leaf accumulation (both now 
corrected) I have had no problems with my mini-split system (knock wood).  
 -- The plastic tubing for the condensate drain became brittle after long 
exposure to sunlight (UV).  Protect it with some sort of cover or conduit.

The outdoor unit is officially called a condenser, which is accurate during 
cooling but it becomes an evaporator during heating.  So I just call it the 
outdoor unit.
The "pros" I hired for this and other HVAC work have not been impressive.  They 
had the tools and got the job done but I would have done it with more care.
I had to cut and re-flare my refrigerant lines (way too long) and I didn't have 
a decent flare tool. That is the main reason I hired that done.
My HighSEER kit came with a tiny tube of stuff to prevent leaks at the 
refrigerant tube flare connections.  I can't swear it works but mine have never 
leaked.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC 
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t 
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if 
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power to the 
condenser. The only real work is drilling the line hole and running power and 
mounting the unit brackets. I hang the condenser on the outside wall because of 
storm surge flooding concerns. 

I have my AC guy come to pull down the lines and charge the system. I think for 
the warranty you need that. 

I put in a 24k BTU system with 2 12k heads last summer, I think with all the 
lines and such it was about $2200 or so plus a coupla hundred for my guy to 
spend a coupla hours fooling with it. A single unit will be much less. 

Look on their website and order one. Mitsubishi is supposedly “the best” but 
these LGs have been fine though I have fried 2 controller boards in the big 
system due to lightning hits nearby. You might consider a surge protector in 
your system somewhere. 

--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC 
> system is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing 
> a mini split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work 
> in the garage without sweating buckets.
> 
> I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
> would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.
> 
> So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it 

[MBZ] This looks pretty nice, low miles E430

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1412614362274180/

2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 430 Sedan 4D
$3,000
Vehicles 
Listed 4 hours ago in Winter Park, FL 



Driven 72,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
16.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
Very good condition 


   Typical Features…

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


   Seller's description…

2000 Mercedes E 430 Sport Sedan. These have always been known as solid 
reliable great handling models from the start. The 430 is the higher 
model, with the very powerful 4.3 V8. Fast with vast power, while not 
giving up a lot of fuel economy. This car was very well cared for, and 
runs and drives like new. No. Smoker. Interior in very preserved 
original condition. Body and paint beautiful and I damaged. Air ice 
cold. All power works, including all windows, locks with the 2 keys and 
remotes, cruise, seats, incredible audio system, Zeno headlights. Great 
value in a high performance safe car, and they still command a ton of 
compliments. Perfect auto check, no accidents. Car fax no accidents. 
Mileage discrepancy on carfax, not on auto check. Priced to move fast.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Maybe 3-5 years ago I installed a 12K "Pioneer" brand mini-split from 
https://www.highseer.com/ in my "barn."  I too used a pro connect the 
refrigerant lines and do the initial startup.  My outdoor unit is also mounted 
on the outside wall with brackets to keep it off the ground.  As I recall, the 
equipment cost $600-700 (delivered) and the "pro" charged about $100-200 for 
startup.

Lessons learned:
-  My main install problem was a tight available space with non-standard stud 
spacing.  I really had to hunt (and punch small holes) to find a location where 
the big hole missed all the studs.
 --On the outside I had to install horizontal two-by boards for the brackets, 
again the studs were in the wrong places.  The brackets must align 
(horizontally)  with the feet on the outdoor unit.
 --The "pro" routed the refrigerant lines between the wall and outdoor unit.  
When fall came leaves piled up on the lines blocking air flow.  In winter Ice 
formed around the lines blocking air flow.  The defrost cycle cleared the coils 
but I needed a heat gun or salamander to clear the ice behind the unit.  This 
year I had another "pro" come back and reroute the lines.
 -- The initial "pro" did not understand that all expansion devices are in the 
outdoor unit and insisted on installing a service port in the liquid line 
(totally unnecessary).  This appears to be a common misperception.  At some 
point the Schrader valve in that added port began leaking.
 -- The outdoor unit of my Pioneer system looks exactly like the Mitsubishi 
unit later installed at our church.  The indoor units look different.  If you 
are looking at an generic brand, it is worthwhile (IMO) to call the suppliers 
to find out who actually makes their equipment.
 -- Other than the leaking Schrader valve and ice/leaf accumulation (both now 
corrected) I have had no problems with my mini-split system (knock wood).  
 -- The plastic tubing for the condensate drain became brittle after long 
exposure to sunlight (UV).  Protect it with some sort of cover or conduit.

The outdoor unit is officially called a condenser, which is accurate during 
cooling but it becomes an evaporator during heating.  So I just call it the 
outdoor unit.
The "pros" I hired for this and other HVAC work have not been impressive.  They 
had the tools and got the job done but I would have done it with more care.
I had to cut and re-flare my refrigerant lines (way too long) and I didn't have 
a decent flare tool. That is the main reason I hired that done.
My HighSEER kit came with a tiny tube of stuff to prevent leaks at the 
refrigerant tube flare connections.  I can't swear it works but mine have never 
leaked.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC 
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t 
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if 
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power to the 
condenser. The only real work is drilling the line hole and running power and 
mounting the unit brackets. I hang the condenser on the outside wall because of 
storm surge flooding concerns. 

I have my AC guy come to pull down the lines and charge the system. I think for 
the warranty you need that. 

I put in a 24k BTU system with 2 12k heads last summer, I think with all the 
lines and such it was about $2200 or so plus a coupla hundred for my guy to 
spend a coupla hours fooling with it. A single unit will be much less. 

Look on their website and order one. Mitsubishi is supposedly “the best” but 
these LGs have been fine though I have fried 2 controller boards in the big 
system due to lightning hits nearby. You might consider a surge protector in 
your system somewhere. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC 
> system is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing 
> a mini split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work 
> in the garage without sweating buckets.
> 
> I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
> would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.
> 
> So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it out, 
> or DIY it. We’ve had these conversations here before about various brands, 
> which I would enjoy hearing the latest information anyone has in this regard, 
> but I’m also intrigued but the HUGE range of mini splits I see locally on FB 
> and Craigslist. The number of manufacturers is nothing short of astounding, 
> and they sound like a day’s search through AliBabba:
> 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Totally trashed. Worth scrap (less hauling 
cost)

--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Will sell with oil refinery"
> Translation:
> I tried to make my own bio diesel in the garage. The injection pump and
> fuel system is now snotted and plugged with half baked bio fuel made from
> used cooking oil and I don't want to even try to get it sorted out.
> 
> I'll take a betting pool position on that being the true condition of the
> car, now setting in tall weeds.  "spare car for parts goes with the sale"
> clinches my position [for me]
> <<< Run Away>
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Trunk lid says "60SEL". WTF
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2617541501867081
>> 
>> 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
>> $1,995
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed a day ago in Summerville, SC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 200,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Black
>> Fair condition 
>> 
>> 
>>Seller's description…
>> 
>> Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery. There
>> is a second car that is for parts.
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"Will sell with oil refinery"
Translation:
I tried to make my own bio diesel in the garage. The injection pump and
fuel system is now snotted and plugged with half baked bio fuel made from
used cooking oil and I don't want to even try to get it sorted out.

I'll take a betting pool position on that being the true condition of the
car, now setting in tall weeds.  "spare car for parts goes with the sale"
clinches my position [for me]
<<< Run Away>

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Trunk lid says "60SEL". WTF
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2617541501867081
>
> 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
> $1,995
> Vehicles 
> Listed a day ago in Summerville, SC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 200,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Black
> Fair condition 
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery. There
> is a second car that is for parts.
>
> --
> --FT
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[MBZ] Needs a router and motor mount I believe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

WiFi enabled?  Some sort of 210, no further details, looks half nice though

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/756002271604908/

2002 Mercedes Benz eclass
$900
Vehicles

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Cars

Listed 2 weeks ago in Villa Rica, GA 




   Details
   …

 *
   Condition
   Used - Fair

Year: 2002 Make: 391196981458827 Model: [hidden information]517292 Body 
style: sedan Exterior color: Blue Interior color: Tan Fuel type: 
Gasoline Mileage: 20 Needs work It runs Needs a router and motor 
mount I believe


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Re: [MBZ] 99 e300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have this 99 I need to get the fuel pump or whatever sorted on it, 
cranks but won't fire, I don't think it is getting fuel. Swapped the 
relay (K40?) or whatever that box is with the one from the wrecked E300, 
still wouldn't fire.  Now I'm wondering if it has a crank position 
sensor like the gassers


--FT

On 6/27/20 1:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have this hell of a nice 99 e300 with about 196k on it, leather seats etc 
that I bought a couple of years ago. It was stuck in 1st and I originally 
replaced the conductor plate but that didn’t cure it. Long story short I pulled 
a valve body out of a later 02 or 03 ML500 and now it shifts great. Next things 
it needed was tires and AC. Front tires are brand new Barium or something like 
that. Back are worn out. The whole time I could have sworn the ac compressor 
was locked up and was plan on on that job. I checked it the other day and 
managed to turn the clutch. Might not have tried hard enough before or didn’t 
have a good angle to get a good grib. Threw the ac machine on it and recovered 
a very small amount of refrigerant. Vaccumed it down and it passed the leak 
test. Charged it up and it cools great. I used my sniff tester and could find 
no leaks. Now just need to replace a couple of tires and it will be ready to 
hit the road. It’s a wonder I procrastinate on projects for so long.

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[MBZ] Dad’s restoration project that was never finished

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nominally a 450SL with a lump and lots of problems

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/510243623253138/

Title
$2,500
Vehicles 
Listed 14 weeks ago in Charlotte, NC 




   Seller's description…

This was my Dad’s restoration project that was never finished and has 
been sitting in a garage for 15 years. It has a 1994 Chevrolet LT1 V8 
motor, 300 turbo transmission. Must be moved from Oakboro, NC.


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[MBZ] Check out those bumpers!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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Mercedes Benz 300SD
$7,900
Vehicles

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Listed a day ago in Bristol, TN 




   Details
   …

 *
   Condition
   Used - Good
 *
   Brand
   Mercedes Benz 300SD, 4-door

Collectors Item 2-Owners 213,000 miles Good-Fair Condition

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[MBZ] it is worth the $1000 all day long no I will not part out cash is key

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Blown airmatic, no rear glass, interior torn up... uh no, it's not...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/553121135571388/

2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 Sedan 4D
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listed a week ago in Marietta, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 147,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline


   Typical Features…

 *
   Leather Seats
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   DVD Player
 *


   Seller's description…

1000 obo runs and drives does need work needs air shocks fixed a back 
window and a radio it is worth the $1000 all day long no I will not part 
out cash is key. Any questions feel free to message me. It runs and 
drives the way it is but is not recommend because of air shocks bad


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[MBZ] 99 e300

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have this hell of a nice 99 e300 with about 196k on it, leather seats etc 
that I bought a couple of years ago. It was stuck in 1st and I originally 
replaced the conductor plate but that didn’t cure it. Long story short I pulled 
a valve body out of a later 02 or 03 ML500 and now it shifts great. Next things 
it needed was tires and AC. Front tires are brand new Barium or something like 
that. Back are worn out. The whole time I could have sworn the ac compressor 
was locked up and was plan on on that job. I checked it the other day and 
managed to turn the clutch. Might not have tried hard enough before or didn’t 
have a good angle to get a good grib. Threw the ac machine on it and recovered 
a very small amount of refrigerant. Vaccumed it down and it passed the leak 
test. Charged it up and it cools great. I used my sniff tester and could find 
no leaks. Now just need to replace a couple of tires and it will be ready to 
hit the road. It’s a wonder I procrastinate on projects for so long. 

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[MBZ] If nobody buy by the end of this week ima just keep her ‼️

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

FB marketing genius of the week

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/278930726496075/

Title
$800
Vehicles 
Listed 2 days ago in Greenville, NC 




   Seller's description…

Runs good Title clean I found it Aux radio Everything works Contact me 
for more info call me [hidden information] If nobody buy by the end of 
this week ima just keep her ‼️


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[MBZ] Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Trunk lid says "60SEL". WTF

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2617541501867081

1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
$1,995
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Summerville, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Black
Fair condition 


   Seller's description…

Mercedes Super 300 SDT Diesel Turbo will sell with oil refinery. There 
is a second car that is for parts.


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Re: [MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

It is probably 20 miles away from Hillsboro, and it’s 10 years older than me. 
It would be cool to have a Mercedes of my birth year. since I would prefer a 
Diesel, that  would leave me with a 1972 220D, quite primitive compared to my 
240D. I like the 107 and 116, but I’ve never spent much time around a W108 SE 
or SEL.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 900 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D still in the shop 

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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And it's an "S class", about as old as Kevin.
> How far from Kevin is it?
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On Sat, June 27, 2020 7:18 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Price keeps dropping.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.304
>> 3779/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC 
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t 
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if 
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power to the 
condenser. The only real work is drilling the line hole and running power and 
mounting the unit brackets. I hang the condenser on the outside wall because of 
storm surge flooding concerns. 

I have my AC guy come to pull down the lines and charge the system. I think for 
the warranty you need that. 

I put in a 24k BTU system with 2 12k heads last summer, I think with all the 
lines and such it was about $2200 or so plus a coupla hundred for my guy to 
spend a coupla hours fooling with it. A single unit will be much less. 

Look on their website and order one. Mitsubishi is supposedly “the best” but 
these LGs have been fine though I have fried 2 controller boards in the big 
system due to lightning hits nearby. You might consider a surge protector in 
your system somewhere. 

--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC 
> system is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing 
> a mini split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work 
> in the garage without sweating buckets.
> 
> I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
> would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.
> 
> So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it out, 
> or DIY it. We’ve had these conversations here before about various brands, 
> which I would enjoy hearing the latest information anyone has in this regard, 
> but I’m also intrigued but the HUGE range of mini splits I see locally on FB 
> and Craigslist. The number of manufacturers is nothing short of astounding, 
> and they sound like a day’s search through AliBabba:
> 
> Boreal
> Daikin
> Dazuki
> Everwell
> Pioneer
> Premium
> Confortotal
> Gree
> Delta
> Mirage
> Air-Con
> 
> I have to believe there are just a few companies actually making these and 
> most of what’s in this market is just being brand labeled.
> 
> I’m looking for a 9,000-12,000 BTU unit so it will run on a single (120V) 
> circuit. Install will be a piece of cake as it will be on the garage wall and 
> the condensor right outside.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I suspect we can 
get by with something quite small, the house is only 900sq ft.
Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick via 
Mercedes wrote:   I need this information as well, I'm 
figuring out how to set mine up.  I'm done with window units I think.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I need this information as well, I'm figuring out how to set mine up.  I'm done 
with window units I think.
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[MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC system 
is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing a mini 
split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work in the 
garage without sweating buckets.

I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.

So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it out, or 
DIY it. We’ve had these conversations here before about various brands, which I 
would enjoy hearing the latest information anyone has in this regard, but I’m 
also intrigued but the HUGE range of mini splits I see locally on FB and 
Craigslist. The number of manufacturers is nothing short of astounding, and 
they sound like a day’s search through AliBabba:

Boreal
Daikin
Dazuki
Everwell
Pioneer
Premium
Confortotal
Gree
Delta
Mirage
Air-Con

I have to believe there are just a few companies actually making these and most 
of what’s in this market is just being brand labeled.

I’m looking for a 9,000-12,000 BTU unit so it will run on a single (120V) 
circuit. Install will be a piece of cake as it will be on the garage wall and 
the condensor right outside.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It would be a nice rolling restoration candidate. Got a lot of little issues, 
but nothing significant from what I can see. Not sure I understand what was 
going on with the rear seat upholstery. That’s sort of weird.

-D

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not getting a lot of love. Cool car though 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Price keeps dropping….
>> 
>> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.3043779/
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Not getting a lot of love. Cool car though 

--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Price keeps dropping….
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.3043779/
>  
> 
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

And it's an "S class", about as old as Kevin.
How far from Kevin is it?

Mitch.

On Sat, June 27, 2020 7:18 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Price keeps dropping.
>
>
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.304
> 3779/


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[MBZ] Decent Finnie in WA/OR

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Price keeps dropping….

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1962-mercedes-220s-fintail-for-sale.3043779/ 


-D
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