Re: [MBZ] Learn something each day

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have a few barrels worth of cider aging.  Too bad it is not near me.  Or, 
maybe for the best, as I would then be consuming said barrels to keep warm 
while the snow falls.

not snowing just yet, but it is coming

clay 

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> On Oct 10, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got some homemade 14 year old apple champagne that is getting real 
> mellow.   It is very tasty!   Very bubbly, naturally.
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> October 10, 2020 at 11:37 PM
>> I’m drinking 12yo Scotch whisky now


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Re: [MBZ] 1970 Mercedes 300 SEL - $6, 500 Rolls, stops, engine turns over but does not run

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Post deleted.

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> Looks nice
>
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Re: [MBZ] Learn something each day

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Apple champagne or sparkling cider?  What's the diff?

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> Yums!
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> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Oct 11, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I've got some homemade 14 year old apple champagne that is getting real
> mellow.   It is very tasty!   Very bubbly, naturally.
> >
> >> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> >> I’m drinking 12yo Scotch whisky now
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes pottery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You should see the beautiful MB pottery she has made for the Q. Our door
prizes.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Awesome.
> Did she draw that by hand?
>
> On 2020-10-11 16:21, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > Look at what my GF made for me!
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes pottery

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes! Maybe have some of those for the next Q!

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> On Oct 11, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
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> 
> Beautiful cup
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 4:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes pottery

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

No she lifted the image from the internet.

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> Awesome.
> Did she draw that by hand?
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>> On 2020-10-11 16:21, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Look at what my GF made for me!
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes pottery

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Awesome.
Did she draw that by hand?

On 2020-10-11 16:21, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Look at what my GF made for me!



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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes pottery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Beautiful cup

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues...

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I really like the electric fan. Makes so much more room in the engine 
> compartment.

The downside is that they can and do fail. They are working in one of
the hottest parts of the engine bay. I don't know about MB fans but this
was a weak point when I owned a VW Jetta that had an electric fan. I
replaced it at least three times during my ownership.

Of course, the belt can fail on belt-driven fans, but IMO there's more
opportunity to see that coming and deal with it proactively.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I also believe 2000 was the first year that ESP was standard in the 
210.1999
A non-ESP 210, even 4Matic, is tail-happy when you hit the throttle in 
the snow.
I used to practice powersliding my 1999 wagon in a parking lot in early 
snows every year.
I could usually catch the slide without lifting off the gas on the first 
attempt without overcorrecting by more than a foot, but after the first 
time each year I was pretty good at not losing the rear end in the first 
place and never overcorrected again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ2OYYeGPrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8h3Kv7fU1A


BTW, even though 11'8" is now 12'4", they're still hitting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR5MlZHA1fo

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I *think* the facelift (2000-2002, 2003 for the wagon) cars have additional 
structural rigidity, or something related to the safety of the passengers.

Couldn't stop myself. Quote from the '99 crash test. "Additional structural 
changes were made beginning with the 2000 E class models manufactured after 
January 2000, so the listed ratings do not apply to the latest models".

Links.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/e-class-4-door-sedan/1999

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/e-class-4-door-sedan/2001

Obviously no one intentionally crashes a car. That said, A.M. Booth drove 
Mercedes for the safety aspect. At least two members here have been in crashes 
that may have turned out differently in a lesser marque.

Safer is better.
Worth a thought.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT checking my lottery tikkie

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

NaNaNaNa...BATflip!
acquired by the seller in August 2020
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-mercedes-benz-sl500-46/

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[MBZ] OT How many kilos of coke...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

could I fit in here for a high-speed run from Miami to New York City?  
Even if I had to double the miles on it?


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-ferrari-testarossa-23/

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[MBZ] OT checking my lottery tikkie

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-ferrari-575-maranello-6/

If for nothing else than to listen to this

https://www.thedrive.com/news/24433/keep-the-gated-manual-dream-alive-with-this-rare-ferrari-575m-maranello

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Re: [MBZ] too far to go

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

There ya go, Poos.
Fix it in the driveway on your way to Indy.

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[MBZ] 1970 Mercedes 300 SEL - $6, 500 Rolls, stops, engine turns over but does not run

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks nice

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1970-mercedes-300-sel/7211573769.html

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Re: [MBZ] too far to go -- another one somewhat closer

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And another one with a trans issue

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-e320/7211782038.html

On 10/11/20 10:16 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:


but would be a good deal.  I think I posted this yesterday but I sent 
the guy a message it was an easy fix but he doesn't seem to want to 
deal with it


I bought one like this for $600, replaced the transmission
conductor plate and fluid for $250 in parts and the car is great.
Easy fix!


21 hours ago

It’s in limp mode for codes



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1999 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Sedan 4D
$800
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Grantville, GA 




About This Vehicle…

Driven 190,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Tan · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Petrol
18.0 MPG city · 25.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined


Typical Features…

 *
Alloy Wheels
 *
ABS
 *
AM/FM Stereo
 *
AWD
 *


Seller's description…

Goes forward and backwards only has low gear. Would make great 
demolition derby car. Or fixer upper.

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[MBZ] too far to go

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but would be a good deal.  I think I posted this yesterday but I sent 
the guy a message it was an easy fix but he doesn't seem to want to deal 
with it


   I bought one like this for $600, replaced the transmission conductor
   plate and fluid for $250 in parts and the car is great. Easy fix!


   21 hours ago

   It’s in limp mode for codes



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/629899437677435

1999 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Sedan 4D
$800
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Grantville, GA 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 190,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Tan · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Petrol
18.0 MPG city · 25.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined


   Typical Features…

 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *
   AWD
 *


   Seller's description…

Goes forward and backwards only has low gear. Would make great 
demolition derby car. Or fixer upper.


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Re: [MBZ] Motorwagen

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-11 08:20, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I thought that part was pretty funny.

I had to look up what “ligroin” was. Apparently a light solvent like 
naptha.


I had to look it up too. Was surprised by the boiling point.
That stuff sure wasn't gasoline. Now I know why early engines had heat 
cups on them.


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think the lack of an engine driven fan is what threw me off. I thought that 
was one of the indicators of a facelift car. Now I know better. Thanks!

I’m thinking about making the guy an offer of maybe $2600 and seeing what his 
reaction is. It still listed today, so I don’t think he’s had any takers yet. 
He said there were some people who were supposed to come by yesterday and look 
at it.

Hmm.

-D

> On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 99 will not have steering wheel controls, that started in 00 with the 
> facelift models. Every year from 96-99 was just a little bit different then 
> the facelift models were pretty much the same till the end of the run. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good to know. I couldn’t figure out how this would be the case. I’ll have 
>> to go back and look at pictures for the steering wheel - I could have been 
>> confusing it with the 2001 I looked at today.
>> 
>> I really like the electric fan. Makes so much more room in the engine 
>> compartment.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The 99 in the link below is not a facelift car. The electric engine fan 
>>> started 99 pre facelift. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I would add that the 99 model was facelift car, so it’s got the newer 
 stuff in the cabin and things like electric cooling fan instead of the 
 engine driven one.
 
 -D
 
> On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope. Most dealers won’t let an owner see the VMI, short of maybe letting 
> them look at it on the computer screen. I have a source for them that 
> emails them to me. I just haven’t had a chance to get them the 
> information. I might still get it today, if not, Monday for sure.
> 
> We’ll see. I’m still sort of “meh” on this one, but the pickings are 
> really slim around here for just about anything decent and used, or so it 
> seems. I hate to act fro desperation as I’m not under any pressure, but I 
> also don’t want to buy something and not have time to thoroughly vet it 
> before I drive it across country.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> > wrote:
>> 
>> Can just the owner order a VMI?
>> 
>> $2800 is close enough to asking price so you will probably succeed.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> >> wrote:
>> Went looking at a couple of W210s sedans with 4Matic, not something 
>> that’s common around here.
>> 
>> First one:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> >  
>> >
>>  
>> >  
>> >  
>> >>
>> 
>> Pretty solid, mostly Florida car, guy is clearly a flipper and I called 
>> him out on it (nicely.) I don’t care, flipping is fine with me as long 
>> as the price is reasonable for the car. Exterior is good, interior 
>> probably an 8 out of 10. When he got the car it needed a conductor plate 
>> and connector body as well as front axles, which he’s done himself. Car 
>> drives well, everything works from what I can tell. I haven’t seen the 
>> VMI on it yet, hoping to get one before the end of the day. Don’t know 
>> what his position is on price. Looks like it’s got three accidents 
>> reported against it, none major (“no damage reported”) except one in 
>> 10/2018 which appears to have been repaired at the dealer in Sarasota.
>> 
>> I might go for this one if I could get it for maybe $2800.
>> 
>> 
>> Number two:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Motorwagen

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I thought that part was pretty funny.

I had to look up what “ligroin” was. Apparently a light solvent like naptha.

-D

> On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> She’s a witch!
> 
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>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> Give Bertha some credit - she drove this thing over 100km on unpaved roads.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/vsGrFYD5Nfs  
>> >
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1886-benz-patent-motorwagen-replica/
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Re: [MBZ] Motorwagen

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She’s a witch!

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> On Oct 10, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Give Bertha some credit - she drove this thing over 100km on unpaved roads.
> 
> https://youtu.be/vsGrFYD5Nfs 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Learn something each day

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yums!

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> On Oct 11, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> I've got some homemade 14 year old apple champagne that is getting real 
> mellow.   It is very tasty!   Very bubbly, naturally.
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> October 10, 2020 at 11:37 PM
>> I’m drinking 12yo Scotch whisky now
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Learn something each day

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've got some homemade 14 year old apple champagne that is getting real 
mellow.   It is very tasty!   Very bubbly, naturally.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
October 10, 2020 at 11:37 PM
I’m drinking 12yo Scotch whisky now

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