Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



Mars on a train:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa2894MBZC8

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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think some motorcycles use Mars lights?
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 14, 2020 3:54:01 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> I don't think I've ever seen one in action, but they sound cool. I might
> have to make one for the Woody's Pusher (N10RY) as a landing light - deer
> on the runway.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I always like the “Lights from Mars” on the front of fire trucks. Those
>> are cool.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Light
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
 very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
 old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.
>>> 
>>> I saw a girl felled on the street by one, kind of an epileptic seizure.
>>> It was even making me woozy.  Traffic control at a parade.  Absolutely
>>> f'n idiotic design.  Right out of the "brighter/faster MUST be better,
>> right?"
>>> school of thought.
>>> 
>>> The gumball lights were MUCH more friendly, yet plenty visible.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I don't think I've ever seen one in action, but they sound cool. I might
have to make one for the Woody's Pusher (N10RY) as a landing light - deer
on the runway.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I always like the “Lights from Mars” on the front of fire trucks. Those
> are cool.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Light
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 14, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
> >> very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
> >> old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.
> >
> > I saw a girl felled on the street by one, kind of an epileptic seizure.
> > It was even making me woozy.  Traffic control at a parade.  Absolutely
> > f'n idiotic design.  Right out of the "brighter/faster MUST be better,
> right?"
> > school of thought.
> >
> > The gumball lights were MUCH more friendly, yet plenty visible.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Smells like Victory!

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> What sort of "mushroom"?  Portobello?  Shiitake?  Dried Chinese?  Porcini?
> Kennett square, PA?  Sauteed?
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Exactly. At least there always has been for me. And if the seller doesn’t
> > want to negotiate, I know if I want it bad enough what it’s going to cost
> > me.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> > >
> > >> Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...
> > >
> > > There's always another car...
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What sort of "mushroom"?  Portobello?  Shiitake?  Dried Chinese?  Porcini?
Kennett square, PA?  Sauteed?

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> Exactly. At least there always has been for me. And if the seller doesn’t
> want to negotiate, I know if I want it bad enough what it’s going to cost
> me.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...
> >
> > There's always another car...
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I always like the “Lights from Mars” on the front of fire trucks. Those are 
cool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Light

-D

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
>> very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
>> old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.
> 
> I saw a girl felled on the street by one, kind of an epileptic seizure.
> It was even making me woozy.  Traffic control at a parade.  Absolutely
> f'n idiotic design.  Right out of the "brighter/faster MUST be better, right?"
> school of thought.
> 
> The gumball lights were MUCH more friendly, yet plenty visible.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
> very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
> old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.

I saw a girl felled on the street by one, kind of an epileptic seizure.
It was even making me woozy.  Traffic control at a parade.  Absolutely
f'n idiotic design.  Right out of the "brighter/faster MUST be better, right?"
school of thought.

The gumball lights were MUCH more friendly, yet plenty visible.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] $3,800 of parts for $120

2020-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
A great buy for someone with the time to sort/sell them individually.

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> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/pts/d/charlotte-lot-of-mercedes-parts-from/7213594389.html
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Re: [MBZ] G 55 ,,This vehicle has been completely redone

2020-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If this were stock what is the blue book value?

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> hideous
>
>
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/okatie-mercedes-benz-class-55-amg-sport/7213424578.html
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I had some assh*t behind me on the way to work one morning in a jacked up 
pickup truck with one of the LED light bars hung under his front bumper, which 
was about at my rear view mirror height. I kept brake checking him because he 
was riding my rear, so then I just slowed down so he would pass me. After he 
did I was blinded enough by his light bar that I had to use my brights until he 
was well ahead of me.

They live in the neighborhood, so I made sure I got their license number and 
forwarded it to our community service officer (sheriff) that is responsible for 
the neighborhood.

-D

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The two worst offenders were an idiot going down the freeway towing a 3 
>> car slant with a giant off road 'LED light bar' on his grille, damn near 
>> blinded me with my door mirror. And another guy with a similar light bar 
>> on his roof driving on a two lane side road. At least he turned it off 
>> before he got to me, but not soon enough to suit my eyes.
> 
> I'm pretty sure light bars (whether incandescent/halogen or LED) are
> illegal everywhere for street use. But I've never seen it enforced.
> 
> Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
> very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
> old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> The two worst offenders were an idiot going down the freeway towing a 3 
> car slant with a giant off road 'LED light bar' on his grille, damn near 
> blinded me with my door mirror. And another guy with a similar light bar 
> on his roof driving on a two lane side road. At least he turned it off 
> before he got to me, but not soon enough to suit my eyes.

I'm pretty sure light bars (whether incandescent/halogen or LED) are
illegal everywhere for street use. But I've never seen it enforced.

Don't get me started about how bright police lights are now. Blinding,
very distracting, and the hyperactive strobing makes it even worse. The
old rotating gumball lights were tolerable and certainly visible enough.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. At least there always has been for me. And if the seller doesn’t want 
to negotiate, I know if I want it bad enough what it’s going to cost me.

-D



> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...
> 
> There's always another car...
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Not ideal, if it's backup lights.
Bloody dangerous, if it's headlamps. And driving at night last winter, I 
encountered 5-10% bloody dangerous.


The two worst offenders were an idiot going down the freeway towing a 3 
car slant with a giant off road 'LED light bar' on his grille, damn near 
blinded me with my door mirror. And another guy with a similar light bar 
on his roof driving on a two lane side road. At least he turned it off 
before he got to me, but not soon enough to suit my eyes.


Mitch.


On 2020-10-14 11:01, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
 They are bright, if you're looking at them, but the
effective illumination isn't much improved.


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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> And I think the phosphors emit at specific wavelengths as well.

The typical white LED these days is a strong blue emitter, covered
with a yellow phosphor.  Phosphors are not really broad-spectrum
light emitters, they're aimed at matching the sensitivity of the cones
in the human eye.  Unlike a tungsten filament, which is essentially
a black-body radiator.  Same effect, unless the surface reflecting
the light has a particular absorption band that matches the emission
band of the phosphor, in which case the light will tend to disappear.
LEDs also have physical directionality as well, which could play an
effect.  The point is that a filament lamp basically has wattage as a
variable, whereas LEDs have many more variables, none of which
are really talked about or rated.

I think, for nighttime illumination, that the blue light is largely wasted.
That might have the effect of it seeming bright, but not very effective.
Just a theory.  Are your backup lights warm white, or cool white?
(Cool == more blue.  Yellow == a strong red and a strong green
emission line.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil and
only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting destroyed.
>
>
> Rick
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> Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
>
> Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
>
> I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> around the flange of the thermostat housing.
>
> I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> few weeks ago and it was fine.
>
> Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
>
> I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> and I are.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

> Don't forget that all white LEDs are actually fluorescent lamps, with 
> phosphors
> excited by other wavelengths.

And I think the phosphors emit at specific wavelengths as well. I bought
some LED bulbs for reverse lights. I was after something brighter, and I
think they are somewhat, but the improvement is not quite what I was
hoping for. They are bright, if you're looking at them, but the
effective illumination isn't much improved.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Veggie Oil! 1982 Mercedes 240D

2020-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-14 10:18, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

This dude is chug gin’ the oil his on damn self.


Where have I seen doors like that before?
Oh, yeah, a friend of mine in 3rd grade had a couple of those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6J3wWE2Pg

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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> GMann's suggestion to hook a come-along to a tree then to the offending body 
> part and winch away worked well on the fenders of the E500 that had an 
> off-road adventure

My tree hit the corner of the rear bumper and jinked the truck sideways,
caving in the side forwards to the wheel well as the truck came to a
stop.  Same tree helped to rip the slightly-bent bumper off in my first
ill-considered repair attempt.  U-pull supplied replacement bumper and
taillight, Harbor Freight supplied hammer and dolly kit.  (Which I already
had, along with crowbars and long 2x4 lumber for levers.)  Rattle can
paint courtesy of FLAPS.

Good enough for what was originally a parts truck, and which has had its
peeling paint dealt with by Rustoleum and a brush.  Total cost about $100,
and probably 8 hours of work on my part.  It's back to reasonably presentable
again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...

There's always another car...

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Some LEDs try to approximate filament bulbs,

They really can't, not even as well as HID replacements.  No other lighting 
technology
has the flux density of a filament lamp, an optical system designed for those 
MUST
be sub-optimal with any other light source.

HID discharge arcs are pretty small, but not as small as a filament in those 
sizes.
Don't forget that all white LEDs are actually fluorescent lamps, with phosphors
excited by other wavelengths.  The emitting areas are relatively large, larger 
than
any other illumination technology.

Personally I'd like to kill whoever decided that 'projector' style headlamps 
were cool.
Worst possible thing for nighttime illumination, ultra-intensity point source 
light.  A bigger,
more diffuse source would both give you better quality of light, and would be 
less blinding
for oncoming traffic.

Analogy: a single 100W clear filament bulb in the center of the ceiling.  Now 
put a 1'
frosted white globe around it.  Compare your experiences in that room.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
GMann's suggestion to hook a come-along to a tree then to the offending 
body part and winch away worked well on the fenders of the E500 that had 
an off-road adventure


--FT

On 10/14/20 10:21 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

I feel they were all white or silver, with a few random maroon ones that are 
all fading into a hideous two-toned scheme here in AZ.

Barney is a dark purple color, which is part of what drew me to it.
Once the X5 is squared away, and the wife's driving the (silver)
E320, I'll probably get back to seeing if Barney can be brought
back to life, or else parted out and/or sold.

I've been tied up recently bringing the Dodge V10 back to its pre
where-did-that-tree-come-from state.  (Repairs accompanied by
PPM's "If I had a hammer" soundtrack in my head.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Re W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> One thing to remember with the halogen bulbs is you aren't supposed to touch 
> them bare handed. The oils from your fingers get on the glass and severely 
> shorten their useful lifespan.

Such failures will have obvious envelope damage, not just a burnt-out filament.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Fwd: 1997 E300D

2020-10-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Another champagne AZ MB diesel. 

Bob R

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[MBZ] Headlight polishing $9 kit

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I bought 2 of these kits to polish up some plastic headlight covers.  
Worked pretty well on the ML headlight covers, I need to pull out the 
lower fog lights and polish them up now.  The 3 fiber pads were an 
interesting addition and stripped off the old yellow stuff quickly and 
buffed them up some then the sandpaper pads got it polished up.  $9, 
cheepcheep price.  I had bought another kit a coupla years ago at HF I 
think, this one had more stuff for cheaper.  Package says each kit can 
do 4 headlights which is about right.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/HOTBEST-DIY-Car-Lights-Kit-Polishing-Restoration-Headlight-Repairing-Set-P240-Mop-Sanding-Discs-Drill-Adapter/496571450

Use a spray bottle with water and a bit of dish detergent to keep the 
paper from loading up with schmutz


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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I feel they were all white or silver, with a few random maroon ones that are 
> all fading into a hideous two-toned scheme here in AZ. 

Barney is a dark purple color, which is part of what drew me to it.
Once the X5 is squared away, and the wife's driving the (silver)
E320, I'll probably get back to seeing if Barney can be brought
back to life, or else parted out and/or sold.

I've been tied up recently bringing the Dodge V10 back to its pre
where-did-that-tree-come-from state.  (Repairs accompanied by
PPM's "If I had a hammer" soundtrack in my head.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Fwd: Veggie Oil! 1982 Mercedes 240D

2020-10-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
This dude is chug gin’ the oil his on damn self. 

Bob R


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[MBZ] buy my nasty old mercedes caps

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/pts/d/belmont-mercedes-and-cadillac/7213685455.html

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[MBZ] $3,800 of parts for $120

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/pts/d/charlotte-lot-of-mercedes-parts-from/7213594389.html

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[MBZ] Crackalicious! extra zero in the price

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://macon.craigslist.org/cto/d/lizella-1999-s500-mercedes-benz/7213025389.html

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[MBZ] G 55 ,,This vehicle has been completely redone

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

hideous

https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/okatie-mercedes-benz-class-55-amg-sport/7213424578.html

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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



Smoke Silver got used a lot by MBUSA.

If you didn't want a Pearl Black 2.3-16 like mine, you could always get 
one in Smoke Silver like Chuck L's. (then Chuck got a 500E, in, you 
guessed it, Smoke Silver)

RIP Chuck.

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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Oh "smoke" silver, not "silver."  Gotcha.  Same as my 560SEC I think.  
Not bad looking, just kinda bland.


Good dealing, sounds reasonable.

--FT

On 10/14/20 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It was advertised at $3200. I looked at it on Friday. It remained listed on CL 
through yesterday. I wasn’t terribly excited about it, so I sort of sandbagged 
on doing anything.

I decided to offer the guy $2600.

I texted him an offer. He asked if he could wait until tomorrow because he had 
someone coming to see the car. I told him no, as I didn’t want to become a 
point of negotiation.

He went quiet for about 30 minutes then texted me back that he would take my 
offer.

Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...

And yes, it’s smoke silver. Never understood why they didn’t just call it gold. 
Mushroom interior in very good shape.

-D


On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Sounds like a good deal (whatever you paid!) and a decent ride. 210 is a good 
transpo appliance.

I think every 210 was silver!  No, wait, I have a white E300 here...

--FT
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On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Bought the 1999 E320 4Matic with 143k and two owners. Originally delivered in 
PA, shortly after moving to Sarasota, FL. Smoke silver (yuck!) with mushroom 
interior.

I’ve driven it about five miles and all appears to be well. It runs well, has 
plenty of get up and go, and everything works, even the CD changer.

Ran a full set of diagnostics and got a lot of little “F”s, nearly all that 
were related to battery replacement. Cleared all the codes and none came back, 
so that’s good. The guy I bought it from put a conductor plate in it so I reset 
the adaptations on the transmission.

Went through and made a “list ‘o’ parts” for my dealer guy, mostly soft stuff 
as the car doesn’t seem to have much in the way of needs. I’ve got to pull the 
cluster to change the bulb behind the odometer, as it appears to be out, and 
the turn signal stalk seems sort of stiff but the signals cancel, so something 
may be going on there I’ll have a look at.

All in all it seems like a pretty solid car. I’ll Martha the heck out of it 
over the next few days and drive it some more to become more familiar with it.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It was advertised at $3200. I looked at it on Friday. It remained listed on CL 
through yesterday. I wasn’t terribly excited about it, so I sort of sandbagged 
on doing anything.

I decided to offer the guy $2600.

I texted him an offer. He asked if he could wait until tomorrow because he had 
someone coming to see the car. I told him no, as I didn’t want to become a 
point of negotiation.

He went quiet for about 30 minutes then texted me back that he would take my 
offer.

Best negotiating tool you can have - be willing to walk away...

And yes, it’s smoke silver. Never understood why they didn’t just call it gold. 
Mushroom interior in very good shape.

-D

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a good deal (whatever you paid!) and a decent ride. 210 is a 
> good transpo appliance. 
> 
> I think every 210 was silver!  No, wait, I have a white E300 here... 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bought the 1999 E320 4Matic with 143k and two owners. Originally delivered 
>> in PA, shortly after moving to Sarasota, FL. Smoke silver (yuck!) with 
>> mushroom interior.
>> 
>> I’ve driven it about five miles and all appears to be well. It runs well, 
>> has plenty of get up and go, and everything works, even the CD changer.
>> 
>> Ran a full set of diagnostics and got a lot of little “F”s, nearly all that 
>> were related to battery replacement. Cleared all the codes and none came 
>> back, so that’s good. The guy I bought it from put a conductor plate in it 
>> so I reset the adaptations on the transmission.
>> 
>> Went through and made a “list ‘o’ parts” for my dealer guy, mostly soft 
>> stuff as the car doesn’t seem to have much in the way of needs. I’ve got to 
>> pull the cluster to change the bulb behind the odometer, as it appears to be 
>> out, and the turn signal stalk seems sort of stiff but the signals cancel, 
>> so something may be going on there I’ll have a look at.
>> 
>> All in all it seems like a pretty solid car. I’ll Martha the heck out of it 
>> over the next few days and drive it some more to become more familiar with 
>> it.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I feel they were all white or silver, with a few random maroon ones that are 
all fading into a hideous two-toned scheme here in AZ. 

Bob R

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> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sounds like a good deal (whatever you paid!) and a decent ride. 210 is a good 
transpo appliance. 

I think every 210 was silver!  No, wait, I have a white E300 here... 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bought the 1999 E320 4Matic with 143k and two owners. Originally delivered 
> in PA, shortly after moving to Sarasota, FL. Smoke silver (yuck!) with 
> mushroom interior.
> 
> I’ve driven it about five miles and all appears to be well. It runs well, has 
> plenty of get up and go, and everything works, even the CD changer.
> 
> Ran a full set of diagnostics and got a lot of little “F”s, nearly all that 
> were related to battery replacement. Cleared all the codes and none came 
> back, so that’s good. The guy I bought it from put a conductor plate in it so 
> I reset the adaptations on the transmission.
> 
> Went through and made a “list ‘o’ parts” for my dealer guy, mostly soft stuff 
> as the car doesn’t seem to have much in the way of needs. I’ve got to pull 
> the cluster to change the bulb behind the odometer, as it appears to be out, 
> and the turn signal stalk seems sort of stiff but the signals cancel, so 
> something may be going on there I’ll have a look at.
> 
> All in all it seems like a pretty solid car. I’ll Martha the heck out of it 
> over the next few days and drive it some more to become more familiar with it.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] New Car

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Bought the 1999 E320 4Matic with 143k and two owners. Originally delivered in 
PA, shortly after moving to Sarasota, FL. Smoke silver (yuck!) with mushroom 
interior.

I’ve driven it about five miles and all appears to be well. It runs well, has 
plenty of get up and go, and everything works, even the CD changer.

Ran a full set of diagnostics and got a lot of little “F”s, nearly all that 
were related to battery replacement. Cleared all the codes and none came back, 
so that’s good. The guy I bought it from put a conductor plate in it so I reset 
the adaptations on the transmission.

Went through and made a “list ‘o’ parts” for my dealer guy, mostly soft stuff 
as the car doesn’t seem to have much in the way of needs. I’ve got to pull the 
cluster to change the bulb behind the odometer, as it appears to be out, and 
the turn signal stalk seems sort of stiff but the signals cancel, so something 
may be going on there I’ll have a look at.

All in all it seems like a pretty solid car. I’ll Martha the heck out of it 
over the next few days and drive it some more to become more familiar with it.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Re W211 Headlight Bulbs

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I never do. In fact, I use an alcohol wipe on them any time they’re handled 
just to be sure there’s nothing on the glass envelope. A box of those little 
single use squares is cheap as wine and they’re really handy in the shop for 
all sorts of things.

-D

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 1:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> One thing to remember with the halogen bulbs is you aren't supposed to touch 
> them bare handed. The oils from your fingers get on the glass and severely 
> shorten their useful lifespan. I have had silver star ultras last several 
> years (800-1000 hours).
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 13, 2020 9:44 PM
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ned.kleinh...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Re W211 Headlight Bulbs
> 
> I have been buying Orsam-Sylvania H7 (halogen) bulbs from O’Reilly’s.  They
> sell four different price levels of H7 from Basic to XtraVision to
> SilverStar to SilverStar Ultra.  Each successive level represents an
> increase in lumens, color temperature and projected beam distance.  But if
> you read the small print on the back of the bulb packages, you’ll see as
> the price (and performance levels) increase, the life expectancies
> decrease.  Last night O’Reilly’s did not have a Basic or SilverStar Ultra
> available.  I picked up a $17 XtraVision that has a life expectancy of 150
> hours.  I noted the $25 SilverStar is expected to last only about 83 hours.
> 
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