Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
On Jul 12, 2013, at 9:21 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 9:39 PM -0500 7/12/13, OK Don wrote: The receiver drier is by the port side of the radiator -- Out in front. Found it. And those two wires coming out are for the fan? -MMM- Looked into this awhile back for my W123s. Cleanest method I could figure was to put a switch inline from pin 5 on the fan relay to ground. The relay is ice cube shaped, the furthest of the two away from the firewall on top of the L front wheel well. It's the shortest distance to the cabin and can look factory with a little effort. Dave in SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was someone looking for a deal on R-134a?
12 oz. for $4 at Menards through 7/14. I don't use it but seems to be a decent price for small bottles. Not available in Cali. http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive/maintenance-fluids-additives/r-134a-refrigerant/p-1778256-c-10098.htm or avoiding line wrap issues: http://bit.ly/181OJm7 HTH, Dave 82 240D (3 pedal), 84 300TD (Euro), 85 300TD (CA) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: garage door openers
I'm sure you'll make the best decision for the situation but one more data point for the archives - after living with a torsion spring opener for a decade, I'll never use anything else. Super quiet and extra storage space above the door - awesome. Dave On Apr 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I looked at that, but I'm already all set up for a traditional overhead unit (power outlet in place, etc.) so don't think I'll go that route. Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Don't know anything about that, but if you have a torsion spring door, this is great: http://www.amazon.com/LiftMaster-3800-Residential-Jackshaft-Garage/dp/B000MT7WV4/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S**T!!! -- Spring Compressor
Clamped in vise per the instructions on job 33-440, I use an appropriately sized impact socket and a 5-lb. sledge. Regular hammer just doesn't do it. I'm in rust-free CA but it's usually quick once it's in the vise. Dave On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I actually cut them across the top, and the end bits sorta fell out then. I put a big socket on one end of the inner rubber/metal bit, and pushed that out with a vise. I am still trying to get the lower BJ undone, tried the hot wrench and some shims for the pickle fork, still no go. Went at the BJ shaft with the sawzall but that stuff is REALLY tough, barely made a dent in it. Tomorrow another tactic will unfold I am sure. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S**T!!! -- Spring Compressor
I may be misreading this and not understanding the interlock but are there no flat spots on the plates which enable it to be compressed like that in the linked Klann video? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3614495583838776006 Is lack of a bench vise the issue? Perhaps a neighbor can assist? CL is a common source for a used vise - I got a beefy vintage Prentiss for $20. It's saved me much grief over the years - especially when remounting MB springs. Dave SoCal On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I am rebuilding the front end of mama's 300SD. Bought this spring compressor that Max found, eng.jtc.com.tw/products/index.php?mode=dataid=355top=0 it seems like a good stout unit, not a lot different from the one I rented from Rusty last time I did the job on the 123. Rotated the plates around to get a good grip at top and bottom of spring (first attempt I needed to get more coils in the tool), got the spring out no problem other than fiddling a bit to get the teeth set in the plate pockets. Went to uncompress the spring, got the compressor all the way extended and there was still compression on the spring so I can't get it out, maybe only a half inch or so. I try to turn it back to tighten it to put it back in the car to compress it a bit and hold it compressed, to rotate the plates some to get some slack (they are interlocked top and bottom now with the teeth on both ends locked in the pockets on the plates, so the whole thing rotates), and I run into this feature : Advantage :Newly developed automatic 3-point safety interlock and ***automatic freewheel at end of stroke.*** Which means the screw will not engage the bottom part now, and I cannot recompress it to put it back in the car. SH*T!!! So I am pondering how to get it compressed enough to rotate the plates around a bit to get the thing out. I am thinking to stick it under the car frame and then drop the whole car down enough to compress it a bit (I think I only need a 1/4 or 1/2 or so but I am also thinking that is dangerous as hell and really do not want to mess up my day. Or maybe use the floor jack (which has a round pocket on the lift arm) to put it under the car and push it up a tad. Or if I should go to oreilly's and borrow one of their cheapo compressors, use that just enough to get some slack on the system. There is probably not a whole lot of compression on it at this point, maybe a coupla hundred pounds if that, but still enough to make a problem if it decides to go for a walk. Or maybe if they have a press we can push it enough to release a plate so I can rotate it out and re-engage the screw. Ideas? I was hoping to get this job done this weekend, mostly (gotta go to a shop to get BJs pressed) but not if I am running all over creation to deal with this stupid thing. —R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes
A backwards method I have used in the past is to log in to the EPC with the VIN you want to put parts on and run a 'part' search with the the part number you have. If applicable, a diagram will pop up, if not, a 'no part found' message appears. Did this for some 380SL rotors I had - my memory is faded but I believe the rears worked on a W123 but the fronts did not. Could be completely wrong, though — it was a good while back. Dave On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:10 PM, clay monroe wrote: I ordered a brake set for Gump from Rusty. Gump died prior to my installing the set. What does the group opine as to transferability of said parts to a R107? Set consists of all rotors, pads, hoses and some small stuff. Right now I am listing it on CL, but if I can use it, then I will put it back on the shelf clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project
Losing a pet is never easy. 17 years is a very full life but I know from experience that it never seems long enough. My condolences to you. White cement is available. http://www.cement.org/decorative/about.asp I would contact construction supply houses or suppliers to decorative concrete contractors. There are a few good concrete forums these days. A long time ago I found good info at: http://www.concretenetwork.com but have not been there in years. a quick search turned up: http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/decorative/white.html Dave On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Max Dillon wrote: ...I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so that the mosaic will stand out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb
I took the advice below to heart when I bought my '83 380SL. Not looking for controversy nor plan to defend Stu's reputation but I wouldn't underestimate the single row chain issue. Dave Stu Ritter wrote: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 15:49:46 Some thoughts about the single row chain in the 81-83 380 models. I have always maintained that chains were cheap and we have changed these chains every 30,000 miles (I am very conservative with other peoples cars). Then the following.. a 1981 380SEC that I have maintained since new. REplaced chain at 30K, chain and updated cam sprockets at 60K and then at 82,000 with no warning, no noise, no nuttin', the chain snapped. The post mortem revealed that the sprockets inside the timing chest were so worn out they had damaged the chain. The idler sprocket, the distributor drive sprocket and the crankshaft sprocket were EXTREMELY worn out. I have now changed my point of view and we have been converting every car in my fleet. I called all of my customers within the affected range and told them to convert or sell. We have converted five now and the condition of the sprockets that we have taken out makes me think of a bomb, sitting there just ticking away. I now believe the conversion really needs to be done.. Stu Ritter On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:21 AM, clay monroe wrote: I really want a 280 engine. No need for V8 guzzling and lack of power because it got detuned anyway. Dual banks of things to go wrong with V8, and twice the expense. clay On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mar 23, 2012 9:53 AM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Converted to dual chain? If not, run. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1983 Mercedes Benz Station Wagon 300TD - $500 (Whitefield, NH)
On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Fmiser wrote: KLIMA? I haven't found a KLIMA - but I haven't looked either. It does have a monovalve and the ACC controller is interchangeable with earlier cars. Might it still have a KLIMA? The relay is near the fuse box / brake booster. The wiring, I believe, heads down to a black box in the passenger footwell. I love my '85 wagon. Would not trade it for any other year… but I say the same thing about my '84 Euro wagon. Both are keepers. Dave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
So, no Klima on Dan's model. The linked post below makes it appear that the MAS may control A/C functions. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showpost.php?p=126705postcount=13 Post #4 here, says something different: http://mbworld.org/forums/190e-w201/48220-c-compressor-relay-92-190e-2-6-a.html Hmmm... if one of these relays is taking over some Klima functions, I wonder (shooting from the hip) if it works like the Klima does on my '85 W123… if freon pressure is lost, a pressure switch tells the Klima to turn off the compressor solenoid, saving the compressor from damage. I know they changed the configuration and function of this thing many, many times but here's my schematic (all I can find)… maybe it'll jog a memory or point to a possibility until the real schematic appears. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GMQYuBJUv3hTB_4vilWnuB_L548h0FhsE9Lwz-quTRM?feat=directlink Dave SoCal For completion, according to the manual the two other functions on a 1985 W123 Klima are: (1) when the engine is started, the relay keeps the compressor solenoid off until 10 seconds after the engine speed has reached 600 RPM. This improves engine speed stabilization after startup. (2) with engine speed less than 1050 RPM, when the accelerator is floored, the compressor solenoid is released until the engine reaches 2150 RPM or the accelerator is released. This function is controlled by a microswitch on the valve cover. On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Compressor clutch coils can go bad, they're in a harsh environment. Connectors thereto, also. But it sounds KLIMA-ish to me. The WOT switch can affect the AC too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
