Re: [MBZ] OT - Solar

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A quick search brought up $320 installed for new ones.

On Tuesday, April 2nd, 2024 at 5:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Got a chance to get some used panels that are a couple years old that are 
> “take-outs” from a commercial installation where the roof space got removed 
> for a remodel.
>
> Owner has tested them and has specs for each panel. I can get them cheap, 
> like $160/each.
>
> Anyone here have direct experience with solar that can tell me if this could 
> be a good deal?
>
> [image]
>
> [image]
>
> Any info would be helpful. They have 70 of them, I only need maybe 12-15, max.
>
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[MBZ] Series Diesel -Electric kit

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Coming to an MB near you someday?

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Re: [MBZ] Printers

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Elon had to lower the price of new cars due to competition, which then tanked 
the value of used Telsa's. He was counting on the price of new ones always 
going up.




On Thursday, March 7th, 2024 at 11:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> “Cheap enough” is relative. I've been reading the trades of late and all the 
> talk is about how badly EVs are depreciating. Doesn’t sit well with Elon and 
> friends, as he was claiming that the values of his cars would go up...
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] TIG welding exhaust pieces.

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It's not the welder, but the skill of the man using it ---


On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 7:50 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> An old, circa 1990 Miller Syncrowave 250 with water cooler, CK size 20 torch 
> with 3/32 2% lanthanated tungsten electrode.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:27 -0500 Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > > TIG welding exhaust pipes is so much nicer than MIG welding. No
> > > grinding necessary! This is a section of front pipe for the 300D 2.5.
> > 
> > What kind of equipment were you using?
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Now THAT is a Tailwind!

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I wonder if there is a penalty for arriving early, because there is not an 
available gate?

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> 
> [Screen-Shot-2024-01-31-at-1.33.35-PM.png]
> A Roaring Tailwind Propels China Airlines Flight to 826 MPH Over Pacific and 
> Other Record 
> Flights
> airguide.info
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[MBZ] OT: An electric car done right

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Or almost right --

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Re: [MBZ] Black, Sticky, Impervious Something Something

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I think the 2001 163 I had did have the storage door under the front passenger 
seat and it locked with the key.


On Saturday, January 20th, 2024 at 9:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Would be interesting if it does. 164s have the little bin
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > Pretty sure mine has one. I’ll check.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > > On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > No storage drawers on that car. Don’t think that was a feature on 163s
> > > 
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iFōn
> > > 
> > > > > On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Picture?
> > > > 
> > > > I’m confused. Are you talking about the lining of the storage drawer 
> > > > under the front passenger seat? If so, that is the lining, which is a 
> > > > nasty rubbery concoction that is near impossible to remove and almost 
> > > > impervious to everything, except maybe acetone.
> > > > 
> > > > -D (puzzled)
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Did the steam cleaning if the interior of the 350ML today. Worked 
> > > > > well, looks great with one exception: the plastic trim beneath the 
> > > > > passenger seat has a black, sticky residue on it. It is very evenly 
> > > > > spread all over it. You can’t see it on there but when you try to 
> > > > > wipe it off your cloth straight up sticks to it and then turns your 
> > > > > cloth black when you pull it off.
> > > > > Steam did not work. Simple Green, scrubbing then steam did nothing. 
> > > > > Good Gone did nothing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ideas?
> > > > > 
> > > > > AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] New Tools from Harbor Freight

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Hmmm - I'm not sure how that name is being sent, but this is OK Don.




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> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:22:45 +0000 MB list etc via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> > If you do much wiring other than house grade, this is well worth the
> > money. I'm working on wiring my second aircraft, and these save a LOT
> > of time and nicked wires.
> > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RFSWF8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> 
> IDEAL INDUSTRIES INC. 45-097 Stripmaster Wire Stripper, #16 to #26 AWG
> $40.14
> 
> Thank you for the link MB (is that your real name?).
> 
> Another similar, but for larger gauges, is
> 
> https://www.jbtools.com/klein-tools-11063w-wire-cutter-and-stripper-for-8-20-awg-solid-and-10-22-awg/
> Klein Tools 11063W Wire Cutter and Stripper, for 8-20 AWG Solid and
> 10-22 AWG [stranded, I assume]
> $29.97
> 
> I have used these types of strippers when I was working for electronics
> companies and for a national lab. They do work very well.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Tools from Harbor Freight

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If you do much wiring other than house grade, this is well worth the money. I'm 
working on wiring my second aircraft, and these save a LOT of time and nicked 
wires.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RFSWF8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1


On Tuesday, January 16th, 2024 at 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> In case anyone is interested ...
> 
> Harbor Freight introduced an 800 lumen LED clamp light with a circular
> magnetic base to which it can clamp, powered by 120 VAC for $14.99. If
> I did not already have two rechargable magnetic flashlights, I'd be
> interested.
> 
> They also introduced a readily-adjustable V-notch wire stripper. My
> trusty old (~ 55 yr) Miller Tool Company equivalent has a sliding T-nut
> fixed in position with a screw.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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Might it be cheaper and easier to drill a hole straight down rather than 
digging a 100 - 300 feet long 12 feet deep trench?
Talk to a professional geothermal dude, pretending to be considering him to do 
the job, listen to what he tells you is needed.




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> 
> 
> How deep can a Ditch Witch go? The best I can find from Google is a 7.5' 
> (90") frost line for Caribou. I'd been under the impression we could do the 
> horizontal piping at 10' but now I'm thinking maybe 12...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 04:32:13 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > the [in-ground] upfront cost is crazy, like $40,000 instead of a $6,000 oil 
> > furnace.
> 
> 
> That is ludicrous. If you have space it shouldn't cost incrementally more
> than an air-exchange pump, beyond what it takes to ditch-witch a 4' (?)
> deep trench around the place and throw poly pipe down in it.
> 
> > I don't consider a heat pump to be a good primary heating system because 
> > they don't last all that long. The boiler in our house is at least 20 years 
> > old (probably more like 30) and still going strong, heat pumps would have 
> > to have been replaced at least once already.
> 
> 
> The all-electric Rheem in my house is still going strong. (These last
> few days have been sub-zero, too. Two fireplaces also going!) It was
> installed in 1976. I have had to repair some crimp-on wire connectors
> a few times, and replace one in-unit circuit breaker that failed. There's a
> lot to be said for simplicity. This unit has no electronics in it. Just 
> thermal
> (time-delay) relays.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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Our ground source geothermal heat pump is still working great 10 years in. It 
has two 300 ft. deep wells with ABS pipe looped down and up through both holes. 
It paid for it's self in a little less than 7 years in reduced energy bills. 
The main circuit board and thermostat were replaced under warranty not too far 
in (it was a new model at the time). We have the emergency backup heat strips 
disconnected, and the heat pump is keeping us warm in sub-zero temps just fine 
- not running continuously. 
At our previous house, we had to replace the 1978 air source heat pump after 
about 25 years. The dog peeing on the outside coil didn't help.




On Sunday, January 14th, 2024 at 12:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Most modern air source heat pumps are rated down to at least zero F. How much 
> time do you spend below that? We hit -9F last year once overnight.
> 
> Most units have some kind of resistive electric for backup.
> 
> I don't consider a heat pump to be a good primary heating system because they 
> don't last all that long. The boiler in our house is at least 20 years old 
> (probably more like 30) and still going strong, heat pumps would have to have 
> been replaced at least once already.
> 
> Before anybody mentions it we are overdue for a new boiler, efficiency 
> improvements should mostly pay for it...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 04:07:54 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> They have but they still crap out in real cold. I'd definitely want to have a 
> wood stove or other backup heat source if I had to have a heat pump.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 15:56, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > HSPF is 10.6. The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer.
> > > I figured the unit as a whole would run 16.
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > > On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a
> > > > lower temp than the old one.
> > > > 
> > > > If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a
> > > > matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, 
> > > > is
> > > > it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.




On Saturday, January 13th, 2024 at 1:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 12:15, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > Do people actually pay this much for these things?
> > 
> > https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

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OK - what is a UAP?




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> 
> I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs and 
> UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video evidence and very knowledgeable 
> and experienced people speaking out about stuff. I’m maintaining some 
> reasonable skepticism but I’m getting somewhat convinced there is a lot of 
> kinda very interesting and possibly disturbing stuff out there that might be 
> coming out soon. Or not, who knows. It’s still kinda crazy.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT-Microwave

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These three microswitches were all wired into a black box - no idea of how they 
were wired beyond that. I can say that the cover is nice steel with a good 
paint job - it will be used someday for something. 




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> 
> 
> >> I found the fault that caused the microwave to turn on when you open the 
> >> door - a failed closed microswitch. The little red button is stuck in the 
> >> closed position. It is one of three activated by the closing of the door...
> 
> 
> There is something criminally wrong with the design of that oven, if that
> kind of single failure resulted in a containment failure. The chain is
> supposed to be fail-SAFE, in that all failures result in failure to cook,
> rather than ever cooking the environment.
> 
> The designs I've looked at all have three different microswitches in 
> electrical
> series, thus ALL have to say 'go' before the magnetron is powered.
> 
> 1: Door closed.
> 2: Door latched.
> 3: Start button pushed.
> 
> All three have to fail, opposite their normal state, in order to pump 
> microwaves
> out into the world.
> 
> -- Jim

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[MBZ] Fw: OT-Microwave

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> I found the fault that caused the microwave to turn on when you open the door 
> - a failed closed microswitch. The little red button is stuck in the closed 
> position. It is one of three activated by the closing of the door, the others 
> are fine and were harvested for future projects.
>
> The good news is that SWMBO likes the new (expensive) Panasonic combo 
> microwave/convection oven. This one does a better job of heating stuff 
> uniformly - no cold centers without heating a frozen roll so hot that you 
> can't touch it. You can watch to entire bowl of oatmeal boil compared to just 
> the outside edge with the old one. The usefulness of the convection oven/air 
> fryer feature is yet to be determined.
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Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

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Our microwave had the first example I've run across of failing "on". You put 
food in it, started the cooking cycle, then the bell sounded and it turned off. 
When you open the door, it turns on again. The only way to turn it off is to 
un-plug it. Now we have to leave it unplugged, open the door, put the food in, 
close the door. plug it into the wall outlet, clear the nanny, set the time and 
push go. when it's done, unplug it, open the door and remove the food without 
frying your hand. 

Yes, something broke and latched the wrong way in the door latch mechanism, and 
might be repairable, but I don't have the bandwidth to deal with it and SWMBO 
wants to play with a small convection oven, so a new Panasonic should arrive 
tomorrow. We'll see.

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[MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

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It's time for a new one - wife wants one with a combo convection feature. 
Anyone have recommendations for or against various brands?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

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We now use a printing service - cheaper than replacing dried up dead inkjet 
printers. We use mpix.com, but there are several good ones. Maybe one will let 
you send/order a print from your phone? (I use a real camera for anything that 
will get printed).




On Monday, December 25th, 2023 at 2:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> I have HP LaserJet 4000s around I can give her that would probably outlive 
> her. She wants something that will print color.  And do it from a 
> mobile device, like a phone or tablet.
> 
> 
> Damned TV ads.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Dec 25, 2023, at 3:01 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I'd probably get her a Brother BW laser printer and say oops.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: December 25, 2023 1:56 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: d...@penoff.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use
> > 
> > Mother-in-law asked me to get her an inkjet printer. I see this as a major 
> > concern, as we probably all know how poorly inkjet printers are when not 
> > used regularly. But, being that I’m a good son-in-law, I’ll see what I can 
> > do.
> > 
> > I’m partial to Epson and HP in that order. Epson has been doing inkjet on a 
> > big scale for decades, as has HP, but I have used professional Epson 
> > products for a while and as a result, I prefer them.
> > 
> > If you’ve got any direct experience with something that might do the trick, 
> > please share. I’m looking at sub-$100 stuff to give you some idea.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

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We gave up on inkjets, both large and small and now have a cheap laser printer 
that nicely tolerates long periods of dis-use. We got a Brother with  a 
scanner/copier which get's almost as much use as the printer function. YMMV.




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> 
> 
> Mother-in-law asked me to get her an inkjet printer. I see this as a major 
> concern, as we probably all know how poorly inkjet printers are when not used 
> regularly. But, being that I’m a good son-in-law, I’ll see what I can do.
> 
> I’m partial to Epson and HP in that order. Epson has been doing inkjet on a 
> big scale for decades, as has HP, but I have used professional Epson products 
> for a while and as a result, I prefer them.
> 
> If you’ve got any direct experience with something that might do the trick, 
> please share. I’m looking at sub-$100 stuff to give you some idea.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends.

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Merry Christmas or happy Holidays, or whatever floats your boat from chilly 
central OK where it's cloudy. windy, and 35F or 1.7C.

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> 
> From toasty AZ
> 
> AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Bright idea

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AMEN!




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> 
> 
> They should have flashing lights like the cleaning contraptions and forklifts 
> at big stores
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> > On Dec 20, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > I saw this on Jalopnik earlier this week. Interesting.
> > 
> > Not sure I want to let other drivers know I’m not controlling the car…
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > On Dec 20, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > If you see a Mercedes-Benz with turquoise exterior lights on, it’s driving 
> > itself. The new indicator was 
> > approvedhttps://media.hubspot.com/e3t/Ctc/UB+113/d2q-Vf04/VVJ80z7Wls7wW1Y2DT16LtPkvVLsY3L57gC18N44_DbK2-ZVTW7Y8-PT6lZ3njW4JRJmF73Gsn5W4NgmrH1kClHzW7txd_C8gTTfVN480YLGlGlX1VxVX3T13GJp5W1GJhK324-vbkW8JXbV7916D1GN4KsMd_P-RZCV3Rn8F3w__4PN6sJJbckGn6tVzncPn1-fbwFW37Cwxz9kQ5YdW2-YP4s6c0MSFW4fd3S28CyMGyW18jKk_3Lmqv8W7tQMm_4BJzDgW8Y7YZz8-dnlGVzpDVd2_rXxdW5Bn_cs4VFl7MW5KK5qZ2_PLRZW48gtgK37v52-W24mzgN5GcwtQW2LPhw25qtxB1W3hzJzZ43G32FW4ltJnK2WLmTJW68-2CB1SC5DLf4z9L7l04
> >  in California and Nevada, the only states where the automaker’s 
> > self-driving tech is legal.
> > 
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. What’s This Nonsense

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If you rely on a vehicle (no mass transit), you need N+1 cars per required 
transport (if both of you need to go different places at the same time, you 
need three, if not, two).


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> 
> 
> I have averaged about two scammers each day off of Fakebook marketplace, and 
> the one scammer from Craigslist.
> And….I sold it at full ask to a CL dude. The guy is from Albuquerque, flying 
> in Saturday and driving it home. The moolah is already in my account.
> 
> Now the hunt is on even though I was strongly encouraged to pause by SWMBO 
> (“maybe we don’t need two vehicles now that you’re retired”).
> 
> AZBob
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[MBZ] How the great have fallen

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[12 Car Brands That Will Break Down Twice as Fast as the Average Vehicle | 
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Re: [MBZ] OT who’s into radio

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Thanks. That's old stuff, not that there's anything wrong with that. It's not 
old enough for "real radios glow in the dark" though ...




On Tuesday, December 5th, 2023 at 12:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Here you go:
> 
> [399830317_706675637818_495447469780173_n.jpg]
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 5, 2023, at 12:15 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am, but won't create a Fakebook account just to see what this is. My 
> current radio is a QRP-Labs QDX, a software defined radio about the size of a 
> deck of cards, My first contact with is (at under 5 watts) was in Tanzania.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 5th, 2023 at 8:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Look at this post on Facebook 
> https://www.facebook.com/share/gv22VEPue3PtjoUM/?mibextid=79PoIi
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Re: [MBZ] OT who’s into radio

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I am, but won't create a Fakebook account just to see what this is. My current 
radio is a QRP-Labs QDX, a software defined radio about the size of a deck of 
cards, My first contact with is (at under 5 watts) was in Tanzania.




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> 
> 
>  Look at this post on Facebook 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Medicare Questions

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I forgot to add that if you don't enroll in part D initially, you have ta pay a 
penalty for every year you didn't have it if you try to get it later - totally 
a money grab by the insurance industry. There is no government part D, it's all 
individual insurance companies - you have to find the plan that gives you the 
lowest prices on the drugs you take, and not all drugs are covered by any one 
plan. Worthless system.




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> 
> 
> We are on Medicare also - and have a supplemental plan that covers everything 
> that Medicare doesn't. We don't have part D (drugs) because we had no 
> prescriptions at the time. My wife as had a few since then, and does have one 
> now, but the part D premium is far more than the cost of the prescription.
> From my perspective, part D was written by the pharmaceutical companies for 
> them, not us. Total ripoff. Same with the "Advantage" programs - they are an 
> advantage for the insurance companies, not you. They were a response to 
> pressure from the insurance industry to let them in on geezer demographic. 
> Follow the $$$.
> 
> Functionally, our Medicare parts A & B plus the supplement are providing the 
> best health insurance experience we've ever had at a lower cost. I was 
> worried before retiring, but am now a firm believer in single payer none 
> profit run health insurance. Everything else is a ripoff.
> Off the soapbox now, back to your regular programming.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Medicare Questions

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We are on Medicare also - and have a supplemental plan that covers everything 
that Medicare doesn't. We don't have part D (drugs) because we had no 
prescriptions at the time. My wife as had a few since then, and does have one 
now, but the part D premium is far more than the cost of the prescription.
From my perspective, part D was written by the pharmaceutical companies for 
them, not us. Total ripoff. Same with the "Advantage" programs - they are an 
advantage for the insurance companies, not you. They were a response to 
pressure from the insurance industry to let them in on geezer demographic. 
Follow the $$$.

Functionally, our Medicare parts A & B plus the supplement are providing the 
best health insurance experience we've ever had at a lower cost. I was worried 
before retiring, but am now a firm believer in single payer none profit run 
health insurance. Everything else is a ripoff.
Off the soapbox now, back to your regular programming.



On Saturday, November 25th, 2023 at 7:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> i have been on Medicare for 11 years. DO NOT fall for Medicare Advantage
> promises unless your research is 100% certain it is an advantage in
> coverage.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2023, 5:44 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rick,
> > 
> > I’m in the same boat as you - a year out from 65 this month and getting
> > spammed by all the supplemental plan sellers, not Medicare itself. Here’s
> > my advice:
> > 
> > 1.) Consult a professional. It’s money very, very well spent. They know
> > exactly what to do, how, and when.
> > 
> > 2.) I am nearly 100% positive that you must sign up for Medicare at 65 or
> > you risk not getting it or getting significantly reduced benefits as a
> > penalty. We’re not planning on bailing out until 66 and 10 months, our 100%
> > SSA vesting point, so we’ll continue to have health coverage under our
> > employers until that point, or so we expect.
> > 
> > 3.) Consult a professional.
> > 
> > Kind of like Kaleb’s toasty stove, sometimes it’s better and cheaper in
> > the long run to pay a professional. Especially when it involves your
> > financial future.
> > 
> > We use a “wealth manager” at our credit union to provide our planning
> > needs. We gave him a few things to do a year or so ago with some
> > discretionary funds we had, and he did great things with them, so we signed
> > on for planning with him. I just finished the worksheet last week and we’re
> > seeing him on Wednesday. I’m really interested to see where we’re going to
> > come out. OK, I think, but I’m not a financial planner nor have I played
> > one on TV or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. We don’t expect
> > to live a lavish lifestyle by any means, so I think we’ll be OK. My biggest
> > concern is the shock of going from work to not working, both from an
> > activity point of view as well as a financial one. When I was at Kohler
> > people were retiring all year long (5,000+ employees) and the ones that did
> > well after leaving were the ones who had clearly established plans for what
> > they were going to do. Like on a daily basis, not generally. Establishing a
> > routine, getting out, staying active, that sort of thing.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > > On Nov 25, 2023, at 5:26 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, I do realize the system will be bankrupt by 2025 or so. That
> > > doesn't stop time, and I will be sixty five soon. I am employed and have
> > > what would be considered a "Cadillac" health plan. I am in good health 
> > > with
> > > reasonably good genes and no bad habits (i.e. no smoking, no alcohol, no
> > > illicit substances) I take supplements (vitamin d, ect.) but no
> > > medications. I almost feel guilty pecking that out on the screen.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I am getting inundated with junk mail, and spam calls regarding
> > > Medicare. It is my understanding that I don't have to sign up, if I don't
> > > plan on retiring at 65, and I don't. Is that correct? Also, stay away from
> > > Medicare "Advantage" plans? What is an accurate resource to go for
> > > information?
> > > 
> > > Getting this correct, and not getting permanently screwed is important.
> > > 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

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Pex-Al-Pex is what the air line kit I bought uses. I think the fittings were 
special. I don't think that something that can explode and send srapnel in the 
shop is a place to save mmoney, though I did shop for the least expensive 
solution.




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 wrote:


> 
> 
> I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that 
> while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number 
> of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure.
> 
> What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider using 
> PEX-AL-PEX, which is PEX with an internal aluminum core. It doesn’t appear to 
> be all that expensive, but I didn’t look to see if it requires special 
> fittings or can use standard PEX fittings. 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be 
> around $140, which doesn’t seem that expensive compared to other materials, 
> like copper or iron pipe.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex 
> > fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon.
> > 
> > On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > 
> > > I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use 
> > > SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on 
> > > the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really 
> > > quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need 
> > > or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing.
> > > 
> > > Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go.
> > > 
> > > -D
> > > 
> > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX 
> > > > fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as 
> > > > the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change 
> > > > something.
> > > > 
> > > > I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my 
> > > > garage too.
> > > > 
> > > > I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the 
> > > > cottage with no issues so far.
> > > > 
> > > > Randy
> > > > 
> > > > On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't 
> > > > > reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've 
> > > > > never tried it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit 
> > > > > > fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this 
> > > > > > will be cheaper.
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Re: [MBZ] I think I found the problem with the stove

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Two burnt off wires - and the breaker didn't blow? Both impressive and scary.




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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

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Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 
60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it.




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 wrote:


> 
> 
> Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along 
> with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
> > 
> > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for 
> > > your shop 
> > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits?
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes 
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 
> > > > > inch lines.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having
> > > > > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of
> > > > > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire
> > > > > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at 
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I 
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the
> > > > > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big 
> > > > > > retractable
> > > > > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps 
> > > > > > along
> > > > > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario 
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" 
> > > > > > appears
> > > > > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or
> > > > > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors.
> > > > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

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The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for your 
shop 




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> 
> 
> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch 
> > lines.
> > 
> > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having
> > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of
> > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire
> > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least
> > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will
> > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the
> > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable
> > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along
> > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where
> > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me.
> > > 
> > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears
> > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or
> > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors.
> > > 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

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Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch 
lines.




On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having
> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of
> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire
> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least
> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will
> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the
> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable
> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along
> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where
> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me.
> 
> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears
> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or
> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors.
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Re: [MBZ] Be thankful y’all for all you have

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All the meat (smoked ribs and a turkey were cooked/smoked in the smoker 
attached to the wood burning clay oven, as usual. Some re-heating and cooking 
was done in the gas grill, the rest was cooked in/on the first year Maytag dual 
oven electric range (25-30 years old?). I think we have most of the bases 
covered for cooking, though we didn't use the Coleman stove.




On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 4:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> No gas here, all electric.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 2:56 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > I recommend a gas range, before they go extinct.
> > 
> > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yea, tried that. At first the display didn’t come back on but turned one
> > > of the knobs and it did but still no heat. I guess after the festivals end
> > > I will see if it’s getting a full 220. The thing is only 9 years old. Top
> > > of the line Maytag double oven stove.
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Did you try turning the breaker off and back on? It sounds sort of like
> > > > your stove may only be getting 120V.
> > > > 
> > > > Randy
> > > > 
> > > > > On 23/11/2023 2:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > > When I was a kid we had the whole family together at my grandparents
> > > > > for a big thanksgiving and Christmas Eve dinner. After they died the 
> > > > > entire
> > > > > family still got together alternatjng thanksgiving and Christmas. 
> > > > > Slowly
> > > > > it appears these were less and less and I have not been invited to 
> > > > > one it
> > > > > probably 8-10 years. I am not sure if the rest of the family still 
> > > > > has them
> > > > > or not, but I hear nothing about it. Now it’s just our immediate 
> > > > > family.
> > > > > Sometimes we don’t do anything. Currently we have 7 people here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the process of cooking the electric range appears to have died. 
> > > > > Both
> > > > > the stove top burners and the ovens no longer heat. Indicators light 
> > > > > up but
> > > > > no heating. Since everything quit it seems like maybe the control 
> > > > > board
> > > > > died.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess we will get what we get, not everything got cooked.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 23/11/2023 12:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I care less and less about the various holidays as time goes on.
> > > > > > > While I enjoy time with family, all the “getting ready” that 
> > > > > > > precedes the
> > > > > > > various events is tiring, if not a PITA, and just ruins it for me.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Call me Scrooge, whatever, but I would be just fine with a casual
> > > > > > > gathering that doesn’t have to be over the top or something done 
> > > > > > > to excess.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The days leading up are just too focused on making things right,
> > > > > > > getting everything surgically clean, pressure to get things done, 
> > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But yes, I do value the time spent with friends and family. I just
> > > > > > > guess I could do without all the junk that can go with it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -D
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Our family gatherings have become smaller and smaller. Where we once
> > > > > > had 20+ people at such meals, we are now down to basically, my 
> > > > > > younger son,
> > > > > > his wife, their two little girls and my mother, plus of course my 
> > > > > > wife and
> > > > > > I.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My father has been gone many years as have my wife's parents.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My elder son and his family are about 1200 miles east. My sister and
> > > > > > her family are here but have their own gatherings as their children 
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > grown, and married and she has two granddaughters.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My wife's sister and her family don't come any more because her
> > > > > > children are grown and have their own gatherings.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My wife's brother and his wife don't come any more because they tend
> > > > > > to spend their holidays with his wife's family.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, it got smaller and easier with time. I do miss the larger
> > > > > > gatherings somewhat but it was much more work and much more mess to 
> > > > > > clean
> > > > > > up afterwards.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nothing stays the same forever and we have learned to live with the
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Randy
> > > > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] Be thankful y’all for all you have

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When we had kids, we declared that "Christmas is where the kids are", which was 
our house. of course. We would sometimes go to Dad's for Thanksgiving, but 
Christmas was never anywhere else. Now the Grandparents are gone and the kids 
grown with extended families of their own, but our son )the youngest) is still 
in the area and he and our DIL are here often. We had the DIL's family here for 
Thanksgiving dinner - the first gathering of more than four of us since before 
Covid (nine of us). It was nice to share a great meal with everyone.




On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> My Mom’s family was the side that had the huge gatherings with easily 30+ 
> people (classic big Catholic family) but those went away years ago as the 
> older relatives passed and my cousins became adults.
> 
> When Mrs. Dan and I got married, I was insistent that we have our own 
> traditions for holidays. I had too many memories of never having Christmas at 
> home and always being on the road. To be blunt, it sucked and really soured 
> me on holidays because it meant being away from home. And of course, the out 
> of band Christmas that we would have would be hollow and weird because it 
> wasn’t on Christmas.
> 
> I didn’t want my kids to have the same experience, and they didn’t, 
> thankfully.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] This might explain

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I'll bet that the pistons are melting 




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 wrote:


> 
> 
> Why nothing is working
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Why Am I Strangely Attracted to This?

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I'm guessing the black from the light is the residue from the Lucas Smoke that 
has been leaking out ---




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On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 1:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 19:04:00 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> > https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/brooksville-1958-rolls-royce-silver/7685038887.html
> > 1958 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud for sale by owner - Brooksville, FL -
> > 
> > I am sorely tempted to go have a look…do these older models have
> > hydraulic suspension? Looks like it might.
> 
> 
> That's a HUGE air filter cannister!
> 
> And what is the black dripping from the trunk light assembly?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] An question to start an oil debate

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Is it because the manual was referring to dino oil and almost all current oil 
is synthetic? 
I know that my OM616 and OM617 engines would easily start down to 0° F with 
Mobil one back in the day vs very hard to start below freezing with Castrol 
20w50.


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 wrote:

> In looking thru the manuals on this 123, the manual shows 15w40 good down to 
> 23 where as later and I believe current oil charts show it good down to 5 
> IIRC. Why such a big difference from back in the old days? Is 15w40 today 
> that much better and can be used at lower temps than 15w40 from 40 years ago?


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Re: [MBZ] CL600 Fun

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What logic? The 300SL was W198 in 1954, the 450SL was R or C 107 in 1971.




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 wrote:


> 
> 
> Why does W215 predate the W212? Where's the logic?
> 
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:32 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> 
> > Uh, I got it back in March. It’s a 2001 CL600 (W215). I paid well below
> > market as it was a distress sale.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > > On Oct 8, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > What M.Y.? What did you pay for the car?
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:25 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Sehr gut!!
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > > On Oct 7, 2023, at 3:44 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Got some parts in for the CL600 this week, so I’ve been taking time
> > > > > here and there to address the remaining issues.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Right rear brake light was out, which is a series of three circuit
> > > > > boards with LEDs on them. Not sure why they did this other than maybe
> > > > > for
> > > > > brightness without a lot of current, but every other lamp in the
> > > > > taillight
> > > > > assembly is a standard incandescent lamp. Grrr.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Remove the taillight assembly and check the gasket for leaks (none!
> > > > > Yay!) then remove the clamp that holds the three LED boards in place.
> > > > > Lift
> > > > > the boards out and pull their socket and stab connectors apart. 
> > > > > Reverse
> > > > > the
> > > > > procedure and button things up. Right rear brake light is now
> > > > > functional!
> > > > > Nice!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Another issue I have been dealing with is the ABS/ESP/BAS module not
> > > > > seeing the signal from the right rear speed sensor. I replaced the
> > > > > original
> > > > > sensor with a decent quality (Delphi, OE are NLA, third party are 
> > > > > mostly
> > > > > junk) part, but that did not resolve the issue. Dummy Me should have
> > > > > paid
> > > > > closer attention rather than just looking at the condition of the
> > > > > original
> > > > > part and assuming it was bad. Anyway, further (logical) 
> > > > > troubleshooting
> > > > > transpired and I “rang out” the harness from the plug at the sensor to
> > > > > the
> > > > > pin and socket connector at the module. All tested well.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I snagged a used ABS module on eBay from a local seller. I did try
> > > > > cleaning the connectors on the harness and original module first, but
> > > > > that
> > > > > didn’t change anything. I swapped out the module with the used one, 
> > > > > and
> > > > > after resetting the BAS, the ABS light has gone out and remains out.
> > > > > Huzzah!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I’ve had a good run today so I think I may leave things as-is for now.
> > > > > I
> > > > > need to replace a driving light bulb, which I might still do just to 
> > > > > top
> > > > > things off.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Okie alignment

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Can you open the sensor housings and resolder the connections to the LEDs and 
sensors? Perhaps this is why it was for sale in the first place? Maybe find 
another set of sensors on eBay or somewhere? Not by tomorrow, but ...




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> 
> 
> Been messing with this alignment machine learning all about it today. I have 
> the car setup and the sensor heads compensated but I can’t get the 2 left 
> sensors to see each other. These have a IR beam from to back on each side; 
> then side to side on the front. At first the fronts could not see each other 
> but one of them had a mess of cob webs in the opening covering the eye. 
> Cleaned that out and they are fine. Now i still can’t get the left side to 
> cooperate. If I put my hand over the lens then remove it, machine says there 
> is a problem with the beam, then goes back to saying it’s blocked. It’s 
> clear, nothing is in the way, no cob webs blocking anything. Of course with 
> this blocked I can’t get a full set of readings
> 
> I may have to throw in the towel and take the car somewhere Monday to get 
> aligned.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 11

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What Dave said - something is wrong there - Maybe send it back as defective.




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On Friday, October 6th, 2023 at 5:47 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> That is NOT normal behaviour for W11.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Kaleb Striplin wrote:
> 
> I will get used to it my my main issue is going into different settings
> windows the selections are blank. If I hover over then thru sometimes
> appear for a split second. Perhaps hard to tell from these pics but you can
> see blank ?tiles? and if you move mouse around the wording appears.
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Re: [MBZ] Initial review of 124 after 1500 miles.

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Bear in mind that the octane rating is for the worst case scenario - hot 
engine, mashing the pedal to the floor from a stop - to prevent detonation. 
Modern engines with "knock" sensors will retard the ignition when detonation 
(knock) is detected to keep from grenading the engine. The retarded ignition 
will reduce power some.
Higher octane than is required to prevent detonation is wasted money, nothing 
else. I don't know if your MB adjusted the timing for detonation with lower 
octane fuel of not.
Another factor in the difference in mileage between fills can also be road 
gradient - it takes less fuel to travel on flat roads than it does to go up 
hill. I expect that your trip out was mostly downhill, so should have gotten 
the best mileage, therefore the highway driving did the engine some good.
As always, YMMV.




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On Monday, October 2nd, 2023 at 11:44 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Right. I could do that. But, on the best tank I was using 89 and driving 80 
> mph and got 21.8. It makes me wonder if 91 is really going to make a 
> difference.
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
> 
> > On Oct 2, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Allan Streib astr...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> > 
> > > The car requires (?) 91 octane. But, every time I have gotten gas they 
> > > only have 93.
> > 
> > If you know roughly how many gallons you'll be buying, fill up half of that 
> > with 87 and then finish off with 93. A bit of a nuisance in that you'll 
> > need two transactions.
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Re: [MBZ] More jackstand overkill ...

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IIRC, heat also helps loosen rusted threads, though I guess the Kroil will burn 
off now if you hit it with a torch. Could make a mess of things. If it comes to 
it, if it breaks off, drill it out and use an "EZ-out" (or whatever they call 
those things) to get it out and replace it with a new bleeder valve.




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 wrote:


> 
> 
> Don't forget to hit the bleeder screw with a hammer as if it were a
> nail.
> Helps jar things loose, but just thump it once, don't beat it into
> something non bleeder shaped.
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Re: [MBZ] PC

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It comes installed on the HD from the seller. I clone it to the SSD, make sure 
it boots, then format the HD. I use AOMEI Backupper for the cloning. YMMV. FYI 
- Curt turned me on to the HP workstations.

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On Monday, September 18th, 2023 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> Where do you get the OS? Back in the day I had installations that could be 
> installed on any number of machines like an enterprise copy. That was windows 
> 7 though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 18, 2023, at 11:37 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > 
> > I've quit building my own and now buy used previous generation HP 
> > workstations with the OS from eBay. Kurt suggested this a while back. I 
> > installed a new SSD as the boot drive and use the HD it came with for data.
> > 
> > --- Original Message ---
> > 
> > > On Monday, September 18th, 2023 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > My PC appears to have crashed. This is a system I built probably 10 or 
> > > more years ago, maybe much longer. And over the years IIRC have upgraded 
> > > the MB. It had a 1.5tb HDD as well as a 1tb SSD. Over the last couple of 
> > > months I have noticed a high pitched whining sound. Seemed to start and 
> > > stop. This was coming from the SSD. It then got to where when booting the 
> > > cmos wouldn’t even see the SSD. System seemed to boot fine otherwise. At 
> > > one point in the last week system seems extremely slow to boot. I also 
> > > ordered a deal where you can plug in drive to a device that connects to 
> > > PC. With SSD connected I finally got it to recognize the drive but when 
> > > trying to access, sits there and then gives I/O error drive not 
> > > accessible.
> > > 
> > > Installed SSD back in machine, same thing. Also, I have noticed that even 
> > > without the SSD installed the main HDD is started and stopping all the 
> > > time and takes forever to load windows. At the moment machine won’t even 
> > > load windows, just goes into a repair then says not able to repair. Only 
> > > option is to try to have to reinstall windows.
> > > 
> > > Back to SSD, tried connecting it to a laptop and it shows the drive which 
> > > appears to have 2 partitions but clicking on either one, it spins/loads 
> > > for a few minutes. Strange thing is when viewing these drives in windows 
> > > it doesn’t show capacity and free space. Eventually it basically says 
> > > drive inaccessible. I need to recover this drive. Any ideas or software 
> > > that might work?
> > > 
> > > Point of the post. Thinking it’s time for a new system. Should I just 
> > > order new MB, memory, hard drive etc, build a completely new system, or 
> > > just buy a commercially prebuilt one such as HP etc? The prices of these 
> > > seem so cheap these days and will already have OS installed maybe that 
> > > makes the most sense? If I go this route I will then attempt to connect 
> > > these drives externally to recover data.
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any thoughts on this?
> > > 
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Re: [MBZ] PC

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I've quit building my own and now buy used previous generation HP workstations 
with the OS from eBay. Kurt suggested this a while back. I installed a new SSD 
as the boot drive and use the HD it came with for data. 




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On Monday, September 18th, 2023 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> My PC appears to have crashed. This is a system I built probably 10 or more 
> years ago, maybe much longer. And over the years IIRC have upgraded the MB. 
> It had a 1.5tb HDD as well as a 1tb SSD. Over the last couple of months I 
> have noticed a high pitched whining sound. Seemed to start and stop. This was 
> coming from the SSD. It then got to where when booting the cmos wouldn’t even 
> see the SSD. System seemed to boot fine otherwise. At one point in the last 
> week system seems extremely slow to boot. I also ordered a deal where you can 
> plug in drive to a device that connects to PC. With SSD connected I finally 
> got it to recognize the drive but when trying to access, sits there and then 
> gives I/O error drive not accessible.
> 
> Installed SSD back in machine, same thing. Also, I have noticed that even 
> without the SSD installed the main HDD is started and stopping all the time 
> and takes forever to load windows. At the moment machine won’t even load 
> windows, just goes into a repair then says not able to repair. Only option is 
> to try to have to reinstall windows.
> 
> Back to SSD, tried connecting it to a laptop and it shows the drive which 
> appears to have 2 partitions but clicking on either one, it spins/loads for a 
> few minutes. Strange thing is when viewing these drives in windows it doesn’t 
> show capacity and free space. Eventually it basically says drive 
> inaccessible. I need to recover this drive. Any ideas or software that might 
> work?
> 
> Point of the post. Thinking it’s time for a new system. Should I just order 
> new MB, memory, hard drive etc, build a completely new system, or just buy a 
> commercially prebuilt one such as HP etc? The prices of these seem so cheap 
> these days and will already have OS installed maybe that makes the most 
> sense? If I go this route I will then attempt to connect these drives 
> externally to recover data.
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts on this?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fast airplanes

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It will start again sometime today. 




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On Saturday, September 16th, 2023 at 7:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 23:16:10 +0000 MB list etc via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> > The last Reno Air races is streaming live (with plenty of commercials)
> > at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5nEoXXZhyU
> 
> 
> The live streaming apparently stopped. It's now a video which is
> 9:23:30 long.
> 
> 
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[MBZ] OT - fast airplanes

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The last Reno Air races is streaming live (with plenty of commercials) at 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5nEoXXZhyU
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Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it

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The difference in cost between a 182 at 150mph vs anything that will cruise 200 
(saving 30 minutes for Curt's flight) will cost you a LOT of money. I can fly 
the 182 out of a 1200 foot grass runway comfortably. Few 200 MPH planes can do 
that. I suspect that Curt might be able to clear 1200ft of relatively flat 
straight ground for a runway ---




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> 
> 
> 
> That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a 
> Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only 
> > 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car...
> > 
> > -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it

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That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a 
Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost.



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On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only 
> 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car...
> 
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it

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Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's an 
airplane, I have too many as it is 




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> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh
> 
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