Re: [MBZ] How good is the E320 wagon (looking at a 95)?
How good is the E320 wagon as far as being a reliable and long lived car? How good is the engine, and drivetrain? Are there known issues with this car? Anyone with experience with this car? Thanks... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....
I'm sorry that my post was anoying but, I was asking a sincere question, I did not know any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was a response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see from my own email. I have seen many many anoying posts here, mine was a sincere question for help... Sorry I asked.. RickMessage: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks
In Washington State tailgating is a gross misdemenor (Road Rage Law) which can get you jail time, so is a number of other agressive driving tactics... There have been recent deaths from tailgating and running people off the road and deaths from such... also included in the Road Rage Law is driving in the passing lane on the freeway while blocking traffic behind.. this is what really irritates me.. I wish this was a very stiff penalty and enforced whenever possible, as I believe this causes the most roadrage, and of course, caused much slowed traffic in busy areas... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Why do almost all of my posts to mercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure to del
I am basically unable to post on this site... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?
I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that? The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions are bounced back to me... this is intentional? I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have a problem now? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: RE: Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:59:36 -0800 I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that? The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions are bounced back to me... this is intentional?I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have a problem now? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why do almost all of my poststomercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: OT: Why do almost all of my poststomercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:51:54 -0800From: Wonko the Sane Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Why do almost all of my poststomercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure to delTo: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID:Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 187 of whom didn't have sore throats.m didn't have sore throats. 187 of whom didn't have sore throats Please explain... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum
I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes value... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Questions about 87 300SDL
I have been trying to get through to this site, but my messages keep coming back as unable to deliver... Anyways, I test drove an 87 300SDL yesterday... I was quite dissappointed at the total lack of throttle response, extreme sluggishness. This car had no power at all, to the point of being dangerous... this car would not be able to get out of it's own way in case of an accident. I am quite familiar with MB diesels... I have had 2 123 body style 300D's and I currently have an 87 300D that the timing chain broke... so... I'm searching for another MB diesel. Are the SDL's that sluggish? I knew that they weren't as quick as the 300D, but I thought they were only slightly less powered? Was there something wrong with the car I drove? If this is a representation of the 300SDL, then I will stick with the 300D. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?
I have been trying to send mail for 3 days, and all is being sent back ... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot (WALTER WARREN)
What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way could the Fed run a National Health Care program... it really pisses me off when they even bring it up... Each time someone talks to me possivie about it, I ask them... well, what did the Feds do to Social Security Medicare They can't run these programs correctly, Social Security has been around since the 30's and Hilary wants to start a Health care program when they can't even run Social Security Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any good Mercedes diesel (603) mechanics in Central Washington (State)?
I have a 1987 300D that died on me last Sept. It has about 300K miles. I am suspecting a broken timing chain, (or primary chain, or flywheel problem). My wife was driving it on the highway, she said it all of a sudden lost power and she could barely hear a clanking or clicking noise, but that it was not loud at all I have turned the engine over, and it seems to turn almost twice as fast as normal, like there is much less resistance... I have just put new brakes (front/rear), new power stearing box, etc. so if it won't cost too much, I would like to get it fixed... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Rick in Yakima... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any good Mercedes diesel (603) mechanics in CentralWashington (State)? (RICHARD FIne)
--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any good Mercedes diesel (603) mechanics in CentralWashington (State)? (RICHARD FIne)Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:41:36 -0800 Hello,As far as checking for the timing chain, I have already previously checked the cam lobes... they do not move... but, as I stated in my first post, it could also be the Primary chain, flywheel ect. not only the timing chain... that is why I was asking if anyone knew a good mechanic in Central WA... Rick You can check for a broken timing chain by removing the oil filler cap and looking at the cam while someone turns the key to turn the engine over - if the cam turns - you should see 3 or 4 of the cam lobes pretty easily. If nothing is rotating the TC is likely broken. Unfortunately, a lot of damage to pistons/head/cam/etc can make repair pretty expensive. A used engine might be a better option of finding another similar 300D and use yours for parts. Don't know if you have been on this list for long, but there is some regular maintanence that needs to be done to monitor the chain condition. The stretch of the chain can be measured on a regular basis and once it reachs 5-8 degrees (? IIRC) stretch it's time to have the chain replaced as it affects the engines performance and fuel mileage. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber PartsTest Results http://members.rennlist.com/oilPORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.netWeber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:59:28 -0800 --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any good Mercedes diesel (603) mechanics in CentralWashington (State)? (RICHARD FIne)Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:41:36 -0800 Hello,As far as checking for the timing chain, I have already previously checked the cam lobes... they do not move... but, as I stated in my first post, it could also be the Primary chain, flywheel ect. not only the timing chain... that is why I was asking if anyone knew a good mechanic in Central WA... Rick You can check for a broken timing chain by removing the oil filler cap and looking at the cam while someone turns the key to turn the engine over - if the cam turns - you should see 3 or 4 of the cam lobes pretty easily. If nothing is rotating the TC is likely broken. Unfortunately, a lot of damage to pistons/head/cam/etc can make repair pretty expensive. A used engine might be a better option of finding another similar 300D and use yours for parts. Don't know if you have been on this list for long, but there is some regular maintanence that needs to be done to monitor the chain condition. The stretch of the chain can be measured on a regular basis and once it reachs 5-8 degrees (? IIRC) stretch it's time to have the chain replaced as it affects the engines performance and fuel mileage. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber PartsTest Results http://members.rennlist.com/oilPORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.netWeber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Hello, Thanks for the previous responses to my post.. My question: As posted earlier, my wife drove my car home, she said it ran out of power and she slowly came to a stop at the side of the freeway. After getting the car towed home, I charged the battery, then tried turning engine over... The engine turns over much quicker I then marked the serpentine belt to see if it would change position when engine (or starter) was engaged the belt did not move... Does this mean that the drive chain (the chain below the timing chain) is broke? I would find it quite coincidental that the starter would go out at the same time, and, it is not the same as the noise the starter makes when it does not engage the flywheel... I believe the starter is engaging the flywheel, but, that it does not have alot of resistance... If this is the case, is this a big job (engine removal) or is worth fixing? Thanks, Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Hello, I'm having a very tough time, my wife had to leave me in a neighboring town (my father is in Hospital dying a slow death, he has Reumatoid arthritis, that when it was brought under control, spread to his lungs, he only has a day or so to live) as she had to get home and work the next day. On the way home, she said that the car just started to drive very slowly until she came to a stop on the side of the road. I have had the car towed home, and upon my first inspection this morning, I inspected to see if any loose vacuum lines.. but found none, I just changed out the fuel filters about 4 months ago, and what I did notice was that when the engine is turned over, it turns over much faster than normal, I then checked to see if the pulley belt was moving when turned over and found it does not. I know that it probably means the starter selinoid is not engaging, but, I find that strange and too coincidiental... any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. I really need this car fixed, as I'm needed back with my Mother and family (I went home for a day) my Father won't make it much longer, and this is something very horrible for my Family to go through, my Father is up to 20 liters of Oxygen and the machine can't go any higher, he is slowly suffocating and probably will not make it past tomorrow... You suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Rick Fine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Will 15 x 8, ET49 mercedes rim fit 1987 300D turbo? I have 15 x 6.5, ET 49 rims stock.
Would be nice if these would fit... could use for summer tires. Thanks, Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 08 19:57:52 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HlVol-0008Cp-H0 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 08 May 2007 19:57:51 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-102-142.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.102.142]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id 20070508195742m15007oenve; Tue, 8 May 2007 19:57:45 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:57:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Sunroof drains X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 19:57:52 - Thanks Russ, Yep, I'm working on the W123 240D - I can easily see the front drains - and blow them out with air. The rear ones are my problem. I looked for the rear exits but without success - will have to look in the wheelwells as you suggest. I'll try the feel method as you suggest - I'm pretty sure I have some aquarium tubing around here. That and my air gun will hopefully work. I assume the drain hole opening starts at the top of the C Pillar? This time of year as the pollen and various reproduction system fall from the trees they seem to target my little cars! And the birds dont help matters. We have lots of trees for the shade in the summer time - but it's a double edged sword. Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Sunroof drains Larry, If they are similar to the 123 126 bodies there is 4 of them. 2 in front located at each corner, Drain lines go down the A-pillar. 2 in the rear again at each corner. Drain lines run down the C-pillar and exits in the rear wheel wells. What I use to clean the drain lines out was a 4' length of 1/4 Aquarium air line tubing attached to to my air nozzle. The Front one's you can see if you stand on the door frame. The rears You may be able to see with a flashlight. I just did it by feel. The S/R pan goes back pretty far. Hopes this helps. Russ W. '83 240 D x2 LarryT wrote: Where are they? At each rear corner? Will I see them with a flashlight? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM
[MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington (state) area?
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:33:44 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington area? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Where? OTOH, I am looking for a good rechroming shop anywhere in te USA. On 4/12/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would like to find a new mechanic Thanks, Rick
[MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington area?
Would like to find a new mechanic Thanks, Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 12 16:16:58 2007 Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hc1yj-0001y9-W0 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:16:58 + Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.56]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:19:58 -0400 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:16:39 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:16:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrew strasfogel's message of Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:00:49 -0400) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2007 16:19:59.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A619760:01C77D1E] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:16:58 - There are now smaller, cheaper, simpler, safer alternatives to the massive, complex light-water reactor plants we built in the 70s. http://gt-mhr.ga.com/ andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It will considerably dampen the enthusiasm of even the most ardent adherents if they honestly consider the entire life cycle of nuclear power, from uranium mining + processing, through enrichment to plant construction, operations and waste disposal and plant decommissioning. It's quite a trip.
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testing From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 11 22:01:04 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HGMkq-0003lw-Hs for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:01:04 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so1812508nfc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr10057070bud.1171231221192; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:00:21 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:01:05 - RST 599 On 2/11/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing -- OK Don, KD5NRO
[MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5?
I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D. The seller read the numbers back to me over the phone and because he couldn't read the numbers clearly, he told me they were 6.5 instead of the actual 6 that they are. The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. Any suggestions? Thanks Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 09 07:45:45 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.233]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFQS0-0001h1-OD for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:45:45 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so690517nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.122.2 with SMTP id u2mr4671125wac.1171007102087; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.153.1 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:45:45 - Rick, the most critical measurement is the ET (offset) which varies by wheel width. What style wheels are they and what is the ET? On 2/8/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D. The seller read the numbers back to me over the phone and because he couldn't read the numbers clearly, he told me they were 6.5 instead of the actual 6 that they are. The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. Any suggestions? Thanks Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo.... clarification
As I stated in my origional email The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. The numbers on the 87 300D : 6.5JX15H2 ET49 The numbers on the 6 rims that I bought: 6JX15H2 ET49 I assumed the only difference between these rims, since the numbers are exact is the width of the rim? Will these handle the same load range? Hope this clarifies my origional post. Jim Cathey: The 300D is holding up great, she just runs and runs and runs... as do most... what are you driving now? Thanks, Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 10 00:17:52 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.224]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFfw8-0002Nt-GP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:17:52 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so913664nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.192.1 with SMTP id p1mr5702119waf.1171066630796; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.18.19 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 From: Aaron Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo clarification X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:17:52 - You shouldn't have any problems. In the rest of the world, lower-spec 124s came with 15x6 wheels. -Aaron On 2/9/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I stated in my origional email The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. The numbers on the 87 300D : 6.5JX15H2 ET49 The numbers on the 6 rims that I bought: 6JX15H2 ET49 I assumed the only difference between these rims, since the numbers are exact is the width of the rim? Will these handle the same load range? Hope this clarifies my origional post. Jim Cathey: The 300D is holding up great, she just runs and runs and runs... as do most... what are you driving now? Thanks, Rick
[MBZ] Injector pump has stight fuel leak from side plate.... dealer going to replace some seals.. anything else I should have him check?
The dealer found a drip coming from the the plate on the front side of the injection pump (about 1 wide x 4 long). Mechanic says need to replace a few seals... but, labor will be about $200. Is there anything else I should have him do while he is doing this, for preventative maintenance? Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 15 07:57:48 2006 Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.225.92]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZ0sV-0003YT-Mw for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:57:47 + Received: from yourfulkl1oh2q (c-24-21-57-15.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.21.57.15]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with SMTP id 20061015075723b1200elstle; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:57:43 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: My Vanagon's persistant temp gauge problem is resolved X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:57:49 - My dad once had a rag get sucked into the intake of his 1969 AMX (wish he still had that thing). It didn't turn out to be a major thing, but it sure wasn't happy until the rag was fully digested. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, no MB diesel yet
[MBZ] Forgot how to lower wiper arm on 87 300D turbo.... feeling a little stupid now...
Just changed my wiper blade, and can remember how to lower the arm back onto the windshield... feel kinda stupid now, after I don't know how many wiper blades I have changed and never had a problem before... car is an 87 300D turbo... Any help would keep me from looking even more stupid.. Thanks... Richard
[MBZ] ordered steering gear box, thinking to replace left/center/right tie rod assemblies... anything else?
My gear box started to leak, so I ordered a replacement.. I got the thinking that my steering was a little peculiar just before the gear box started leaking... so I am thinking of replacing the left/center/right tie rod assemblies.. anything else I should think about replacing with this? Thanks... Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 02 17:07:58 2006 Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.5]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1GURGo-00085Q-SD for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:07:58 + Received: (qmail 55 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2006 17:07:48 - Received: from dsl081-164-043.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.164.43]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; 2 Oct 2006 17:07:48 - Received: from [69.88.113.178] (helo=[192.168.1.105]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1GURGc-000KXe-NQ for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:07:48 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:07:39 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] !!AAAYAMcPXSWNNaFAnfjSlYqMSm/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.7 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system ringbill.gull.us, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: ernest breakfield wrote: yikes! you'd subject your car to a *carwash*?! then again, if you're drilling directly into the bumper, you may be holding yours to a different level of Aesthetics,... ;-) i turned down cars when i was shopping for my 300D because of the damage that was obviously done to them by carwashes,... [...] Content analysis details: (-4.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] 1.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate placement X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:07:59 - ernest breakfield wrote: yikes! you'd subject your car to a *carwash*?! then again, if you're drilling directly into the bumper, you may be holding yours to a different level of Aesthetics,... ;-) i turned down cars when i was shopping for my 300D because of the damage that was obviously done to them by carwashes,... I wouldn't subject a car that had good paint to a carwash, unless it was the touchless variety. But this car was a total beater. Rust everywhere. Dents. Door dings. It was well beyond the point where a carwash could make it worse.
[MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?
Hello... I found a set of 15 stock wheels from a 1997 C230 (but the guy can't find any info on the inside of the rim) and would like to use these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 17:50:02 2006 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GTiyQ-0007aj-EP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:50:02 + Received: from dialup-4.224.207.2.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.207.2]) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GTiyL-00061H-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:49:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:44:02 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:50:02 - 0 weight oils are too thin, in my humble opinion, for any diesel. Too much pressure on the journal on the compression stroke, not enough film strength, even for a synthetic like Mobil 1 The difference between dino and synthetics is huge, the difference in cold viscosity of synthetics is fairly small. I believe the 0 weight oils are intended to give small gasoline engines a bit better milage from lower oil pump resistance, not something I'd like to try in a diesel! Just my opinion. I tend to use 5W40 or 5W50 Truck and SUV or 15W50 Mobil 1 in the summer and 5W40 in the winter, but if I need to change the oil and can only find 15W50 in the winter, I use it. Hard starts are usually not helped by lower viscosity oil unless you have fairly high viscosity dino in the crankcase -- I've seen an engine that simple would not crank at all in the winter with 50 wt in there to hide a bad bearing Peter
[MBZ] Is Dave Meimann (dm) still around?
I sent him an email... but it bounced back with a fatal error that said that his address was not valid... has been about 2 years since I emailed him last about the altinator swap he did In his 300D. Thanks... Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 23 23:52:42 2006 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.184]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GRHIX-0004jY-Ij for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:52:42 + Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k8NNqXI4009528 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (ip68-2-208-204.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.208.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k8NNqWrO011375 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:52:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:52:30 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is Dave Meimann (dm) still around? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:52:42 - I sent him an email w/some 500E questions a couple of days ago. Have gotten no reply... But, also did not get a bounce... Here's that address for Dave M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Sep 23, 2006, at 4:22 PM, RICHARD FIne wrote: I sent him an email... but it bounced back with a fatal error that said that his address was not valid... has been about 2 years since I emailed him last about the altinator swap he did In his 300D. Thanks... Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leaking steering gear box, install seal kit, or replace?
Hello, I have a 1987 300D turbo with around 300,000 miles I just started losing fluid in my power steering and traced it to the steering gear box. I priced them online, and will cost around $450.00 to $500.00 to replace. I also see that I can purchase a seal kit for around $35.00. Has anyone replaced the seals in their gear box? Is it too involved for an average do it yourselfer? I was also thinking of purchasing the seal kit and taking to a local shop and have them do the work Or... do I need to just come up the the cash to replace the gear box with a rebuilt one? Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Richard From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 23 22:56:08 2006 Received: from 70-184-20-145.atlasok.com ([70.184.20.145] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GRGPn-00083e-UN; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:56:08 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:56:06 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I investigate the 2.5 turbo engine a little X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:56:08 - Yes, its good. The motor is almost ready to pull, just have to unhook the fuel lines. Next will yank the one from johns car and do the swap. Luther wrote: Good thing you bought that 2.5 turbo wreck from John -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Are wheels from a 1987 190D turbo the same as for a 1987 300D turbo?
Hello, I posted this yesterday, but didn't get a clear answer, maybe someone can see today and answer. I found a person that would like to sell the wheels from his 1987 190D turbo. I would like to mount these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? Thanks, Richard From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 09 15:26:10 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GM4if-0008U0-Sp for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:26:10 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k89FQUxC013620 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:26:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:26:10 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:26:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are wheels from a 1987 190D turbo the same as for a 1987 300D turbo? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:26:10 - I found a person that would like to sell the wheels from his 1987 190D turbo. I would like to mount these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? In general, so far as I understand, 124 and 201 wheels are common to each other. (As were 114/115/107/116/123/126.) -- Jim
[MBZ] Would like to use smaller fan belt and bybass AC pulley. What size do I need? For 1987 300D turbo
I would like to bypass my AC compressor and use a smaller fanbelt that will not attach to the AC compressor pulley. My system does not work, and would rather get the somewhat improved mileage. Thanks, Richard From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 27 06:17:44 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fv6tL-0006S6-Gl for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:17:43 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k5R6IOPX001346 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:18:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:17:37 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Would like to use smaller fan belt and bybass AC pulley. What size do I need? For 1987 300D turbo X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:17:46 - I would like to bypass my AC compressor and use a smaller fanbelt that will not attach to the AC compressor pulley. My system does not work, and would rather get the somewhat improved mileage. I would think that in Yakima that AC would be somewhat desirable. What's wrong with it? Anyway, assuming nobody can look up the belt length you need you could always take a string and run it around the new path and measure the length. Try to put the tensioner in the normal place first, or account for it somehow. You might be able to use string to measure between two fixed points along the belt path that includes the AC pulley, then stretch a chord that excludes it, then take the difference and subtract that from the stock length. However, I don't think that the 'load' of an uncoupled AC compressor would even be noticeable at the fuel pump. Certainly not enough to even pay for the new shorter belt, IMHO. -- Jim
[MBZ] Anyone install a towing hitch on their 124 chassis? Need some guidance on how?
I have a 1987 300D turbo that I want to install a towing hitch to pull my boat trailer (light 14' inflatable w/30 HP outboard). I am planning to use my car for day fishing trips, and only use my truck for overnight/ extended trips as it only gets around 10 miles per gallon. I first looked underneath the rear of the car, and could not see any secure way to install a hitch. I then went to the local U-Haul center, and they could not find a correct match on there computer for a 1987 300D turbo (computer had it listed as a 2 door), and did not give a listing for a hitch for the car. I'm sure someone has found a way to install a hitch on their model 124 car that works. Your help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks... Richard From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jun 11 02:11:34 2006 Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com ([66.249.82.207]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FpFQL-0004mr-VE for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:11:34 + Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id r21so705960wxc for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AWAuAM/HJHEZynk/n6tAUo8EF+YAv60vx6/JRVQ0v7b0/QGwUll5/API+QXgcLPCKTRX/yLeDumBnBtQZdwE6XOCch/1zACAcyNgRDGgBGEYZmaTfRwYfBZWwtVrqq0SJpAaTVt3jGO2xkNMJHmlOFaMVKht0SVOH7D8jsXTgrYReceived: by 10.70.19.6 with SMTP id 6mr1671843wxs; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.122.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:11:28 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electronic AC servo on sale. X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:11:34 - What happened to the list member's engineering school project to make one of these using readily available parts? Perhaps Rusty could sell the kits? On 6/10/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is that the kit to replace the servo? If so, Rusty is getting beat. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Anyone still have the link to the water welder/water hybrid car article posted the other day?
Thanks... Richard From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 23 16:04:55 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiZNP-0007N2-0l for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 23 May 2006 16:04:55 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 20060523160449m1400e25v8e; Tue, 23 May 2006 16:04:49 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:31 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W202 chassis; yea or nay? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:04:55 - Zeitgeist wrote: Hey, as a corollary to my last posts about a '92 300TE, what are the list's thoughts on the early W202 vehicles? I've heard there were some issues with the early production vehicles, but by now most of those should've been dealt with by now. Are the MPG figures in this CL post relatively accurate? http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/163318403.html Again, TIA The mpg seems a little high, but the '90s C class cars were generally VERY reliable and quite trouble free. Owner satisfaction was VERY high. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] How to view condensed format of the posts?
I posted a lengthy qustion about changing a timing chain, and other questions on my 1987 300D, but, I see no way to view the the whole posts... I get a numbered column of replies, but just the heading, not the message. I used to be able to read the whole message. Can someone explain? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 19 05:47:05 2006 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgxpJ-gB-71 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 19 May 2006 05:47:05 + Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id 57so850399pya for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 May 2006 22:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oCO9u9zXDvZx90fvpYGDfk8w6OM5kl+wz/URhAHL2eR5hhOz+G3Xg7qdO756zpjQVLtYmeHsfbA9aM4KPB8nQ/e1IlADs/yRT9F2LKAeZ2QcNl1E+dfsKlTwznf0ssnqOkgGY4whwRBSjolWa/yE4YcATSBAH5BsiVAsIin/WV0Received: by 10.35.123.2 with SMTP id a2mr1473582pyn; Thu, 18 May 2006 22:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.49.3 with HTTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 22:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 00:47:04 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone need 240D parts? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 05:47:05 - I pulled the ashtray out and I think I see what you mean by mounting frame - which has, sure enough two screws holding it down in there. As the name would suggest, it accepts the ash tray after you've emptied it, etc. Yes, on the left is that copper colored tab that scrapes along the side of the ashtray when you pull it open - but - I think what it scrapes against at this point is plastic. There must be a metal piece that comes up over or under the plastic side of the ashtray to meet that tab - and it must come with the lighter base. Brian On 5/19/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, it appears to be a tab that is mounted to the console. It appears to be copper. I'll have to go downstairs and look more closely at the side of the ash tray and see if there's a metal track on it for the tab to slide along. I believe it does make contact when the ashtray is pulled open past a certain point. So overall, it just seems that there ought to be some sort of cradle for the lighter to plug into. Instead, there is just sort of a division in the plastic space there where it apparently used to be. And there are a few small square or rectangular holes there - to accept plastic snap-type hooks?? I'm guessing now. Yes, mine is the woodgrain type. Sheesh, if it wasn't for my woodgrain, I'd have nothing but the star in the hood to allow me to claim that I have a luxury car. I'm going down to the car now anyway so I'll take a closer look at the things so I can speak more intelligently on it. Brian On 5/19/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you expand on what you mean by mounting frame? It has a sliding wiper track on the side for the ashtray proper to contact, and has two screws that hold it in. It plugs in to the car's wiring harness. I thought I remembered that you'd said it was also missing, but it sounds like that's not right. Or am I correct in assuming that if I get the unit that pulls out by depressing the metal tab, I have gotten all that I need, and I can simply place it in, and the lighter should be operational provided none of the electric circuit has been altered? Sounds right. Use a meter to see if the metal track (or is it a tab that hits a track on the ashtray?) is 'hot' with the key on. You need to be sure you get the right ashtray, is your interior wood-faced or plastic? -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
[MBZ] 1987 300D turbo timing chain replacement questions....
I asked for a bid from my local Mercedes dealer (Yakima, WA) to replace the timing chain in my 1987 300D turbo, 300K miles. The first response I got was that it was not needed unless the timing chain was making lots of noise. I then told him, that as far as I knew, I should replace it because of the high mileage, that I didn't want to risk destroying the engine in case of failure. I asked for an estimate, and after 3 or 4 phone calls and 2 days time, he finally gave me one. He then, changed his story, telling me because of my mileage, I needed to change all the gears, sprocket, and related parts. The price of the parts was going to be $1200, and the labor was going to be $800. He then went on to tell me that all the years he had been with the dealership (he is the service manager, and has been there a long time) he has only known of 2 or 3 such replacements. I told him, well, I guess I won't be needing the work done, as, I surely was not going to be taking my car here. What I'm asking, is, would it be difficult for me to change the timing chain myself? I am somewhat mechanically inclined, and could take the car to a different shop to do the fine tuning of the timing and fuel pump. Is there any valve work that I should also consider while doing this? I have all the shop manuals for the car. Anyone know of other good shops in the Yakima, Washington area that I could trust working on my 300D? Your help would be greatly appreciated, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 18 05:16:42 2006 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.176]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgasM-0002jF-7e for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:16:42 + Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id 57so539140pya for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ahppdXeyM+FhUxjGDis9G/7LOvWKCWcp0fDQbH0e392f7uambCjwuJok9WcxwYfufhzGDEP1lYoA8aAv1bQfE5uRF6PfFy97XjVNTx9gXZAAaeC7LQ1tDjX7wzxUDtU+NMvbiv0Db5YTo3KXRNJ9+LigYqx3SwAKdzX92/gvr6sReceived: by 10.35.107.20 with SMTP id j20mr148249pym; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.49.3 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:16:40 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:16:42 - Thanks. As a follow-up, I wanted to ask the list: Does having the traditional tap-on style wheel weights on the outside of your allow wheels bother you at all? It really bothers me. I mean, you have this nice slick alloy wheel with this crude weight tacked onto it. I notice this when I look at a vehicle and I dislike it. Years ago I had Discount Tire use tape-weights on my Cragar Drag Stars for my old Dodge. They have not come off in over ten years. However these days, every place I've asked about them has told me no, you shouldn't mess with those. Brian 83 240D On 5/17/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Don't trust Midas If you haven't done so, loosen each lug bolt and retorque to the proper ft/lbs or lbs/ft (whichever) I think 80-85 is recommended. Wiser minds will probably chime in Some shops will use torque bars on their impact wrenches that (I'm told) apply proper torque to the lugs. Never trusted them and always requested the good old manual torque wrench.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On May 17, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I thought that most shops had moved beyond using impact wrenches on wheels. But maybe that's just what they tell you if you ask. I bought some Fuzion tires from TireRack. Just wanted to save money. No complaints yet. Supposedly from
[MBZ] 87 300D turbo, 300k miles, having timing chain replaced, what else should I have done at same time?
Hello, I am at a mileage point on my 1997 300D turbo that I know I need to have the timing chain replaced (also, which other related parts to the chain?), and would like to know what other maintenance I should have done while the valve cover is off (valves, etc.). Also, do I need to have the injection pump, injectors serviced? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D
