Re: [MBZ] OT guns now Soros
gawd, this OT filter is workin' so FN great--I love it. Please keep it up [sent from my junk box] On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:24 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was this an April Fool's joke - the part about collaborating with the Nazis? On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this lecture he told the story of his father who had been deported to Siberia in WWII or thereabouts, escaped the prison camp and made his way back to Hungary (? I think) by various tricks and thievery and whatever. It was an interesting story and suggested his father was a very strong person. He said that his father told him that if he wanted something, he should do whatever it takes to get it. Right there I understood his operating principle, that morality was just a bump in the road, if he could even recognize it (I think he is completely amoral). There were strong indications, perhaps his own admissions in the past, that during the war he collaborated with the Nazis in rounding up and persecuting Jews, as he himself had remade himself to hide the fact that he was a Jew (that part is well known). Very scary stuff. Most of the crowd was eating up every word. There were a lot of smart people in the audience but their willing suspension of disbelief was astounding. It was a very disconcerting evening, as the tension in the room was quite noticeable. Those (adults in the age sense) who appeared to be supporters of the Soros agenda hooted and hollered occasionally at those who politely asked critical questions of Soros, as was the process that these lectures follow. I did not notice this sort of disrespect directed toward the followers when they asked their questions. My buddy and I went there with sorta open minds about the whole thing, so I found it enlightening, but came away with very strong and disturbing impressions about this man and his followers. We talked about it quite a bit afterwards, my buddy's parents were refugees from Czechoslovakia in the 50s, and had family who were in the Resistance against the Nazis and Communists, he was much more disturbed about it than I was being much closer to that sort of thing. --R LarryT wrote: Rich wrote I think he had the right idea on that point True - on that one instance - but Soros - a multi-billionaire, has funded several anti-gun websites, studies (where the result is pre-determined), and other things - including far left democratic party funding. He's not a friend of the 2nd A - perhaps when that guy asked the question and defined the situation (no police response) Soros saw no other workable answer. IMO he;s a dangerous person - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT guns Here in Houston we have a lot of what are euphemistically called undocumented immigrants, which is a term for people from (mostly) Mexico who sneak across the border and come here to work. Most of them are hard-working decent people who have no future in Mexico for themselves or their families, due to a lot of reasons. They can find work and make money to support their extended families here and back home. There is a small percentage of these people who seem to account for a lot of the mayhem that goes on in the greater Houston area (leaving out Katrina evacuees which is whole 'nuther story). They rob and assault and invade homes (and cars) of people in broad daylight, fast and hard, in 2s and 3s. Its pretty easy work. In our little community, which a separate city within Houston, this happens every couple of weeks, older people or women alone followed home from the store, dinner, etc. There is no defense except what you can do yourself, even though in our community police response time is maybe 2 minutes from when they get the call. But by then, if you manage to call, the perps are gone with your goods and in recent times, having hurt their victims even when the goods have been given up. There have been a few occasions when the victims have been armed and have dealt with the pending or completed assault, usually to the detriment of the perp or enough to scare them off. Many people carry personal defense, as is their right under the Constitution of the United States and the laws of Texas and many other states. As far as I know there has been vanishingly small, if at all, instances of licensed carriers harming another individual through
Re: [MBZ] OT guns now Soros
To see if it's working, or grabbing the wrong stuff. Obviously, given that it filters out the likes of this and the other fifty wacked-out gun nut reichwing drivel-threads, it works ever-so-nicely, indeed [again, sent from my junk box] On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, you read your junk box? What's the point, then? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bay area folks, I need a fiberglass fabricator.
I've been very pleased with the Lincoln SP 135T I picked up four years ago http://www.weldingmart.com/mig_welder/mig_welder_sp-135t_k1873_1.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D for $2300?
I smell a scam, or they forgot to place the 1 in front of that price--which would be a stretch On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this be true? I think not, but here it is. http://portland.craigslist.org/nco/car/626653988.html Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD CV axle swaps
Rick, IIRC, the early 123 chassis uses an inner CV joint which requires you to remove the rear diff cover, in order to pry out the circlip holding in the axle stub. I think the later versions use an inner joint which bolts on to the CV flange externally. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Rick Hawkins Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: I have a friend who wants to change the rubber boots on his CV axles on his 1980 non turbo 300TD he has another good set of axles from a 1985 300TD (turbo, of course) his idea was to reboot, clean and refurb the pair from the 1985 so they are ready for a quick swap into the 1980 this will help him avoid down time with the car the big question . are the axles the same and will they fit? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bay area folks, I need a fiberglass fabricator.
Actually, AMG did put together a race-prepped 114 (or was it a 108?) with bitchin fender flares. I'm not a huge fan of the 123, but mo-powah to ya, if that's what turns yer crank. Rather than fibreglass, it might be useful to have the existing spoiler vacuum formed and then constructed out of high-impact plastic with a reinforced lip at the bottom. Some of the Vanagon guys were discussing this process a while back for some NLA custom grills and fender flares they wanted to replicate. On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's next, a slammed 114 with fender flares? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w124 door check strap
I had one last me a little less than four years. I think it's an overly complicated design. The door check in my Audi consists of a two step roller cam and a simple S spring--dirt simple, completely external and not much to wear out. Hopefully MB has a simpler and more robust setup in its newer vehicles. On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a great design, they have a limited (often VERY short) lifetime. At least they aren't expensive, and not all that bad to replace. The door liner gets easier with practice, I can do one in 5 min now! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AMG w123 spoiler / Fiberglass fab/replication
You should post some pics, so folks know what they look like. I've never seen any. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Guns Firearms
If you're going to go there again, please have the decency to place an OT in the subject line. Thanks 2008/3/30 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here we are discussing guns again on the Mercedes group. I love this group….. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Guns Firearms
The addition of OT in the subject line allows my email filter to strip it automatically, rather than filling my inbox with annoying drivel that makes me needlessly cranky 2008/3/30 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would think that Guns Firearms as a title is obvious enough to not need a OT. It's not like they are standard parts of a Mercedes tool kit. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Guns Firearms If you're going to go there again, please have the decency to place an OT in the subject line. Thanks 2008/3/30 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here we are discussing guns again on the Mercedes group. I love this group….. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Finns have a new super turbo
Diesels are slow and smelly--why bother? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Finns have a new super turbo
love--nuthin but love On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:28 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Diesels are slow and smelly--why bother? Why the hate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Finns have a new super turbo
Gawd, that reminds me of the pics sitting in my camera that I need to send to Dave. Most of the stuff he has up there is about four years old and way way outdated. Embarrassing... ; ( On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You took Casey's bait: http://www.w124performance.com/images/SuperTurbo/Zeitgeist/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Finns have a new super turbo
I suspect the quickest S124 in the states is the one owned by Neil, with the C36 engine. The same one that's highlighted in the 124 Owner's Bible. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duh weather
Ha, it's even snowing here on the wet side of the Cascades! Had to switch back to driving the Audi Q after re-falling in love with piloting the Benz for a few short weeks. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd _think_ it'd be time for that sort of thing here, but no... It's snowing again, looks like winter, about an inch on the ground so far. The 4 blast we had just last week only lasted about a day, though. I put the winter cars away two weeks ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can you geuss what's in the trunk of my SDL?
Free trial offer coupons to the Emperor's Club? On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's loaded WAYYY down. Can you guess what's in the trunk that weighs that much? http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One of the finest sports cars
Ha, I've owned the KG chassis...but, it had a Thing body sitting on it. Things used the wider KG IRS pan with a modified front beam. I'm also a huge fan of the Type 34 KG http://vwtype34.blogspot.com/ On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:59 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only VW chassis I never owned, but I always wanted one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bandwagon/sports car
Karmann Ghias should've essentially followed the same HP figures for a Beetle of the same year, so they progressed from 36hp in '55 on up to around 60hp by '74 On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Karmann-Ghia had 47 hp. Wilton _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Performance Diesel Mercedes
Diesels are slow and smelly--why bother? On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Sorry to spam a bit but I am trying go the the good word out about http://superturbodiesel.com/ Its a community forum with no retail ambitions for the purpose of discussing engine/drivetrain and suspension modifications for any diesel Mercedes. Currently our members (all 12 of them) are all 123 owners but many of the theories and applications work for any of the OM series engines and any diesel in general. Discussed are auto-manual transmission swaps, turbo upgrades, pump modifications and more advanced diesel maintenance. If you are passionate about your diesel and interested in even mild improvements, come on by and check it out. We are looking for article writers, if you've done something noteworthy or have input lets hear it. That being said it's nice to find another mailing list to waste work hours on :) -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: cheap 126 SD
Uh, it has Nissan seats...no telling how badly they mangled that install On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys think of this one? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/604112244.html All records since new is good. Pity about the damage, but it looks from the pic like it's just the hood and the corner marker light that got mangled, both of which are interchangeable with any other early 126, right? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Performance Diesel Mercedes
It's been rumored that I've boasted that claim before. Until it runs in the sub-6.0sec range, I'd hesitate to call the TD a performance Mercedes. It's quick enough for a daily driver, and probably more so than just about anything MB offered back in '87. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Diesels are slow and smelly--why bother? What about your wagon? Last I heard you had a 7 second 0-60. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temporal Distortions
Are you sniffing glue again...we've talked about this before On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing replies to emails before the email that prompted the reply. I am guessing that some machines were not updated with the temporal distortion that occurred 10 or 12 days ago, though it appears to be only a few minutes difference. For a day or two my msgs were not getting through immediately, but showed up maybe an hour later, which is kinda weird, even though my machine updated itself. Anyone else seeing this? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temporal Distortions
We're so proud. Keep the faith, bro On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paint. --R Zeitgeist wrote: Are you sniffing glue again...we've talked about this before On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing replies to emails before the email that prompted the reply. I am guessing that some machines were not updated with the temporal distortion that occurred 10 or 12 days ago, though it appears to be only a few minutes difference. For a day or two my msgs were not getting through immediately, but showed up maybe an hour later, which is kinda weird, even though my machine updated itself. Anyone else seeing this? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Performance Diesel Mercedes
I found a site that lists the '87 16v at 7.5 secs and the 560SEC as 7.0 secs On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: quick enough for a daily driver, and probably more so than just about anything MB offered back in '87. I think my 190e is supposed to be a 7.0-7.5 second car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigs list finds
That Jetta may or may not have the eco-diesel engine, which has a turbo, but no boost enrichment apparatus. These engines can run for a very long time, as long as the timing belt is changed religiously at or before the interval schedule. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nh.craigslist.org/car/604974274.html http://nh.craigslist.org/car/603599882.html - is this high mileage for a diesel Jetta? This is the painfully slow one right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigs list finds
I have a set of 15 fifteen hole rims with an offset of 21.5mm. I presume they're off of a W126. The same type of rim for my 124 has an offset of 49mm. I think W140 has something like 52mm On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no the 140 and 126 is not the same offset, dont ask me what they are but I know they are different ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE
Hey Jim, how's about this one? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/591589419.html Seems like a decent, possibly easy to fix runner On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sister-in-law is looking to get a used wagon of some sort, and is considering a mercedes. Her existing car is, according to the family mechanic, on its last legs. I told her that the 300TE, in non-AWD trim, might fit her needs. (Though she has no objection to diesel, the supply of 300TD's is somewhat less.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
Not bloody likely, but hey, I've been wondering the same thing about grafting one of the locking diffs from an Audi Quattro, as well. You could theoretically fabricate the mounts, but I doubt the CV and driveline flanges would be adaptable. And then there's the whole thing about comparable final drive ratios...oh well. I can't for the life of me figure out why MB produced so few LSD setups, back in the day. Fools On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a 5 series (80's vintage) BMW sure-grip differential fit any of our cars, particularly my '85 300SD... Friend found one at the PNP and I at least thought it worth asking, although I realize it's not likely. (But, hey, the Reutter oil caps are interchangeable). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
If the E420 in question is also a W124, then I do believe it should have the same suspension bits, though maybe they opted for Sportline stuff in the late-late models--dunno. Price seems a tad high for a car, sans tranny. For whatever reason, the 400's don't seem to hold their value well. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:25 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
Most of the original headgaskets need to be replaced by now. Nice cars On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this is why we need that spreadsheet. Anything to watch for with these cars? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flirting with BMW spark ignition...suggestions on models?
An E30 with the six cylinder = 325i Great cars and fun to drive. Of course, a 190E 2.6 is also supposed to be nifty, especially with the 5 speed On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What year and model (BMW) would best fit these criteria: -5 speed manual -gas -300 series -coupe (not necessarily convertible) -really exciting acceleration -fast with great handling -old enough that it can be worked on without a degree in aerospace technology and parts found at PNP...prolly 1980's model Thanks! Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flirting with BMW spark ignition...suggestions on models?
ix = AWD s = special (?) On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1987-1991 325i/is - 2.5 L M20B25 I6, 168 hp (125 kW) - North America 1988-1991 325ix - 2.5 L M20B25 I6, 168 hp (125 kW) - North America What's the difference in these modelsi, is, ix? Thanks! CM E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They all handled well. Not sure if the earlier ones are fast by todays standards, but sporty. Friend had an '86 325i with a sports suspension, and it was at 340,000 kms when he parted with it, with zero work required. I hear the later or next series were good, but not as long lived. The M's are quick cars, but parts can be pricey. watch for rust on the older cars. Like any car, best find the right car with history and pay a bit more. Always cheaper in the long run. Ed 300E On 26/02/2008, Christopher McCann wrote: What year and model (BMW) would best fit these criteria: -5 speed manual -gas -300 series -coupe (not necessarily convertible) -really exciting acceleration -fast with great handling -old enough that it can be worked on without a degree in aerospace technology and parts found at PNP...prolly 1980's model Thanks! Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL
That pic shows the replacement log, which was installed post-trap recall. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this have the Trap Oxidizer? 290k for $2500. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Re: Our Political System
Only he is allowed to mouth off about our murdering fascist-in-chief---oops, did I just say that? Wow, see how I added an OT to the subject line? It works great for my email filter, so I don't have to read or delete these inane ad nauseum threads. Please use it On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how does any of that conflict with what you quoted me saying? I never said Clinton didn't do it, I just said we currently have a problem with Bush doing it, as you admit he is doing. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People
We're all mutant freaks On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many would have blue eyes? Strange question perhaps but I read somewhere not long ago that everyone on earth who has blue eyes is related. It is apparently all from one oddball gene at one point in time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this
Yeah, but it's not a speed demon...what good is it to me, if it's not a speed demon? On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So get on it, that's an extra bedroom. Luther On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:39:18 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mobile.craigslist.org/rvs/582152211.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used Parts website?
Earlier '86-'89 124 models will also work, but they lack the holes for the chrome strip under the headlights http://www.silverstarrecycling.com/ http://mbpartsonline.com/ And, of course, Kaleb sells used parts, but I don't know if he has much 124 stock On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while back to a website that looked like a place where a number of junkyards posted the items they had for sale. Can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Or have an extra bumper laying around? Thanks -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.3 engine swap.
OMFg, that's what I've been wanting to do with a W113, except to install a killer OM606 Super Turbo. The 113 is the only MB I actually lust after. That's a helluva lot of FN work, though...whoa On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:28 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be kind of cool to do something like this with an old 3.5SE coupe (sorry, don't know the proper name). But keep it more stock looking than this SL. Oh, and it would have to be silver, dark green, or royal blue. :-) http://www.ritzsite.net/280SL63/01_SL63.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ShoeGoo, etc.
Ha, I used some expensive competitor's product to fix a X-country ski boot, just yesterday--I didn't buy the stuff. Seems to have worked just dandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A truly amazing thing occurred today. I used my tube of ShoeGoo to repair a shoe!!! This stuff is amazing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
Personally, I'd just remove the pump, 'cause working on that side of the engine is just plain icky. I can remove the pump in less than an hour. The large o-ring from an OM617 oil filter housing will function quite well as the bottom plate gasket. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for it to be retimed. If anyone's interested here's two posts from the other forums (what other forums?) on the subject. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1767696 http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=24554 I love jobs where people say You need to stand on your head and have a set of offset ratcheting veeblefetzers and SPIDER MONKEY SIZE HANDS if you want to have a CHANCE to get the inside back corner screw off! I consider that a challenge. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How cheap to fix this 6.2?
Hard to say, but the ad says it's doesn't want to crank, which sounds like an electrical issue with either the battery or starter...or it's frozen up On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:39 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://northmiss.craigslist.org/car/580154911.html Since I'm crazy, I'm actually thinking of getting this. Is the problem maybe bad fuel? These aren't turbocharged are they? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 fixer on CL
Yeah, but you're out there in the middle of no-where. Up here in the land of milk n' honey, those things are gold-plated. On Feb 19, 2008 1:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last one I bought was 1500 and it didnt have anywhere near the problems this one has, or the body damage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head number tranny mating
The head # is located down on the head, between Cyls 1 2, or 2 3 -- can't remember which set. No, I believe the OM60x engines all use a different bell housing than the earlier OM617 engines, so the trannies are all different. On Feb 18, 2008 9:27 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can you find what # the head is on an OM603? I THINK it is on the part of the intake manifold that comes over the top of the engine. You can see writing very clearly on this one: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=531353image=101662449images=101661954,101661983,101662012,101662039,101662074,101662103,101662127,101662154,101662171,101662186,101662209,101662236,101662257,101662278,101662298,101662327,101662350,101662382,101662413,101662449,101662477formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0format=0 just an example...Isn't it near the end of that number? a 15, 17, 19, or 21? SECOND QUESTION: how easily does an OM603 mate to the stock tranny in my '85 300SD? THANKS! Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Window switch primer
Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches to be fully operational in order for the window to function. I don't have my CD manual with me, so I can't check the diagram. The motor works, but I can't get the switches to initiate action. I think there might be some funky wiring in the bellows where they run through the door. TIA Casey '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer
So, one bad switch will cause a non-functioning situation--is that right? Well then, I'd best take them apart--bummer. On Feb 18, 2008 11:18 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches to be fully operational in order for the window to function. Both switches have to be good in order for the _rear_ window to work. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 fixer on CL
Sheesh, that's a killer deal, and a super easy fix--bummer, it already has a sale pending. On Feb 18, 2008 9:18 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spotted this one a few minutes ago. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/578541486.html Maybe it's good that I don't have the money to throw at this one. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi+, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE
Well, I have a 124 wagon, and as an alternative, I've opted for a mid-'90's Audi wagon (100CSQ) as my wintertime go-to wheels. The car possesses most of the good stuff I like about the 124 and some new things found on more modern vehicles...as well as a killer AWD system that actually works flawlessly. I think a '94 - '95 E320 wagon would be a very fine vehicle, assuming it's been well taken care of over the years. They can generally be had for between $3500 and $6500 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM cars
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 524td - buy this and sell the SD?
They use a Bosch VE injection pump, similar to those found on the early Cummins 6BT and VW/Volvo diesels. Nice cars. I'd certainly buy one if the price were right. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D update
I've taken those pumps apart, and they seem pretty well constructed to me. Of course, I have no reference from which to judge, though. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cleaned all the (Nippondenso) compressor parts in the solvent tank. That was tedious, and cold! (I didn't plug in the tank heater, probably I should have.) Everything cleaned up well. I saw no scoring of the cylinders or pistons. The swash plate had marks where the piston glide buttons had sat, perhaps corrosion was setting up? It came off with a bit of worn 600-grit wet-and-dry sandpaper. That revealed that there was only one small score arc in one face of the swash plate, which I burnished down. I think it will be OK. Everything cleaned up pretty well, in fact. The thrust bearings roll smoothly. There was some black smudge on a lot of places such as the piston and valve faces, but it rubbed off. 'Black death'? Didn't seem too deadly to me, it could have just been decomposed oil residue. Looks to me like the compressor siezed up quickly enough that it didn't damage itself. The car's belt-saver circuit may have helped. At the moment I see no reason not to reassemble and use this compressor. I should have a new seal kit for it, but I don't. Next time! I'll reassemble the compressor body first before cleaning the exterior clutch parts. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 524td - buy this and sell the SD?
Yes, and said to be somewhat fragile, though they often get high miles out of 'em, so it's probably a lot like the OM603 heads, On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aluminum head? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM cars
Yes... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my classic 1977 Corvette sucks? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM cars
Clearly my opinion is entirely subjective, but I've had a lifelong enmity
towards their commitment to perennial mediocrity. Facts and figures aren't
gonna change that opinion--I'm too far gone. I also grew up during the
'70's and '80's, an era that produced some of their worst crap ever...not
that the other two were much better. I just hate Merkin cars, in general.
Only owned one ('93 Dodge Cummins--body integrity issues galore) and have
never owned an Asian vehicle--probably never will.
Old dawg--new tricks blah blah blah
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somebody who uses the email Zeitgeist wrote:
GM sucks
I can't remember who uses this email address. But, to address your email,
I think it depends on which cars you are talking about to say they sucks.
ALL American cars have improved dramatically with reliability, fit and
finish, resale, etc. Now, I will admit there were some pretty bad GM cars
in the 70's and 80's. But, in my experience with GM cars (as an owner of at
least 20 GM cars and as a service manager at an Oldsmobile/Honda
dealership), I would say GM cars have no more problems than about any other
cars. My MOST TROUBLE FREE and reliable cars have been two oldsmobiles and
two Mercedes. The Oldsmobiles were cheaper to own, maintain, service,
repair, and insure. But, the Mercedes were very close.
If your comment refers to your own personal tastes, then I think many
people will agree with you. Some of the GM cars are very boring and lack
much style. My wife felt that way about our former Olds. She drove a 1999
Olds Intrigue. We bought it at the dealership I worked at and got a great
deal. She drove it for 4 years and 60,000 miles. I did NOTHING on it
except oil changes. I had the alternator replaced while it was still under
warranty - not because it was bad, but it was a pretty difficult job and I
knew it would need to replaced soon. I sold it to my in laws, who did very
little to it either other than replace the tires and pay for a transmission
flush. They had it until it had 120,000 miles and the only thing other than
front brakes they had to do was to replace the driver's side window switch -
about $50. I can tell you about literally DOZENS of my customers at the
dealership who had 200,000, 300,000 or 400,000 miles on their cars.
I have only had two cars (out of 30-35) cross over 350,000 miles. One was
a 1982 Mercedes 300D, and the other was a 1984 Oldsmobile Delta 88. I would
have kept driving them both, but I sold the Mercedes for more than I paid
for it, and I sold the Oldsmobile, so I could get another delta 88 that was
newer and nicer with the 3800.
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Re: [MBZ] 500K
I'm mesmerized by the backlit gauges in that mother-of-pearl dash--just FN dreamy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM cars
Clearly, you never had any vacuum leaks or reduced compression to throw off your fuel metering. D-jet sucks to diagnose. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 280SE 3.5 W111 coupe (manufactured 9/69) has its original engine and transmission as well as the original EFI computer that has required zero maintenance in nearly 40 years of on and off driving. If this isn't great engineering then what is? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM cars
I just love the silver-painted interiors found on some Firechickens and Vettes--classy! On Feb 15, 2008 2:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I was under the impression that even 'Vette enthusiasts saw the late-'70s early-'80s C3 cars as an embarrassment. Kind of like the post-muscle-car-era Firebirds with the big bird on the hood---emissions and fuel economy considerations made them all show and no go. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did I mention
Sounds like a regular Renault Alliance...ha ha, get it? On Feb 15, 2008 4:03 PM, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because it isn't a Japanese car. It's made in Mexico and is a rebadged Renault (their B platform, used by the Clio and Modus). Ditto for the Sentra, which uses the Megane or C platform. There has been some discussion that Chrysler may rebadge some Renault B- and C- cars to fill the gaping hole in their product line, ie the absence of any small, fuel-efficient vehicles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
The rust problem he was referring to there, was more than likely related to the spring perches, which were a serious design flaw associated with the W210 chassis. I'd seriously consider either a '98 or '99 E300D, but the first thing I'd do is remove the front springs, break out my MIG setup and beef up the perch welds. Other than that, they're nice cars. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was out in front of our building and I saw a 1999 300 diesel. I was out looking at it and the owner came out and was wondering if he could help me (I am sure he was thinking what is this strange guy doing around my car). Anyway, I talked to him and told I was interested in Mercedes diesels and that I have had several, etc. Well, he warmed up to me and started telling me about all of his MB diesels. He said that this car had 345,000 miles, he was the original owner and had no problems other than maintenance items. He said he routinely got 37 mpg and it was the best MB, he had ever had. He said the only warranty work done was that they had to replace the shock towers when they rusted out. The strange thing was that he did not have any other rust problems. There was no rust on the car. He said he had no plans to get rid of it unless he had to pay for an engine rebuild and wouldn't get rid of it until it had at least 500,000 miles. That was encouraging to hear, because I thought these later models had all sorts of problems. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300td wagon prices
Price a set of rear SLS legs, or #22 head, or evaporator RR for the S124. My '96 Passat tdi was a rock-solid reliable, economical and fun to drive car. Much cheaper to keep than my Mercedes--damn, my Vanagon is even a helluva lot cheaper to run than the TD. I think I keep the Merc for purely sentimental reasons, at this point. On Feb 13, 2008 12:33 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: carbucks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So paying $10k for a twenty plus year old car that only gets about half the fuel mileage of a five year old Jetta does not add up. Factor in rising fuel costs as well as the higher costs to maintain the Benz and the arithmetic is even less in favor of the Benz. The Jetta will not hold up like the Benz though Price a new Jetta injection pump. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable?
It would be great if your website actually reflected the full depth of parts and equipment you offered, rather than just the WorldPac stuff. That could help remove any lingering ambiguities whatsoever...just a thought On Feb 11, 2008 11:28 AM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subtle? Me? Nope. I have been posting on here and mbz.org for 10 years and people still ask about buying parts from someone else at a higher price. I just don't get it. I sponsor the list. I ship same day you order. I carry 99.99% of ANYTHING that is available for ANY Mercedes and still the questions. Go figure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HAHA, funny 210 sighting
It must be signaling the opening of Spring Perch season in OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap Question
You nailed the biggest hurdle to such a swap; the oil filter housing. I believe the housing will interfere with the crossmember. On Feb 2, 2008 9:46 AM, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Will the motor from my 75 W115 240D drop into a 82 W123 240D? The oil filters are different, don't know about the tranny bolts, engine mount, etc. Any advice appreciated, Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 358kmi 'His' 85 300CD 263kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' headed for Ebay...snif... 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How good is the E320 wagon (looking at a 95)?
I believe the '95s are an excellent vehicle, overall. I've heard that the engine wiring harnesses will disintegrate over time ($), the headgaskets will probably require replacement, and the A/C evaporator will eventually fail ($). That's all I know. A very nice car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
I'm outraged there aren't more pols willing to stand up for the rights of inanimate objects, like guns n' flags! harrumpfff! perpetuallyoffreakintopic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
While the 300TD awaits my mechanical attentions, I'm forced to plod along through snow and sleet in the climate-controlled squalid discomfort of heated leather seats found in my Audi Quattro--so sad for me On Jan 29, 2008 11:19 AM, Alex Chamberlain I had three inches or so of snow with ice underneath on my steep gravel driveway yesterday morning. The (non-4wd) 124, with Blizzaks and a couple of hundred pounds of stuff in the trunk and back seat, handled it just fine. I bet you have a little more snow than that, though. ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum
And that would be great, if folks always bothered to add the OT tag...which ironically is missing on this one On Jan 29, 2008 11:45 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Create a filter to dump Subject lines beginning with [MBZ] OT and Re: [MBZ] OT and you will miss the bulk of it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Whatever... On Jan 29, 2008 3:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What topic would that be? When I setup the list I do not recall there being any certain topic that was only allowed to be spoke of. Zeitgeist wrote: Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles. Couldn't be worse than the typical free-for-all bitch-fest about nothing that seems to go on endlessly around here. Why not keep it slightly more focused on the topic at hand, eh? Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts
Jeezus, all you have to do is put a little OT in the subject line, then those of us with ADD can automatically filter out the fluff. I just set up a filter for [MBZ] OT and it junked 1034 different threads. Shit, it's not like I'm some stranger to OT discussions, but lately it's been a bit overwhelming...or not On Jan 29, 2008 3:49 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said. This is like so much else in lifeuse what you need and leave the rest. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:42 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts As happens every once in a while, we get a few people griping about off topic posts. Most of the folks on this list already know how to fix their cars, etc. Sooo, if only MB tech stuff was allowed to be posted, and nobody had a specific question, there would be very little if any traffic. Think of the off topic stuff as filler, until another issue comes up. It would get mighty boring around here just waiting for somebody to post a mb question. The OT does not take away from MB content, but as I said, its just filler. If you dont like it, just hit the delete button. This is a community, not strictly a tech list. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes question for Zeitgeist
I don't do V8s -- they suck On Jan 29, 2008 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 94 E420 has been sitting a while because I need to pull the idle control/cruise/throttle valve. Done this before? Got detailed instructions? Looks like a pain. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Does anyone here own a Mercedes Benz? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...? On Jan 28, 2008 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a few Zeitgeist wrote: Does anyone here own a Mercedes Benz? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles. Couldn't be worse than the typical free-for-all bitch-fest about nothing that seems to go on endlessly around here. Why not keep it slightly more focused on the topic at hand, eh? On Jan 28, 2008 7:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, they are all doing fine, as far as what Im driving. Got plenty of projects though. Zeitgeist wrote: Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...? On Jan 28, 2008 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a few Zeitgeist wrote: Does anyone here own a Mercedes Benz? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Agreed, and that's what I typically do, and counsel others to do, quite frequently...but, this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the time affair. I've been member of this list (or the mbz.org list) since '03, and it's been an invaluable resource for most of that time...but, not so much these days. I find myself deleting, and deleting and deleting these pointless threads, all the freakin' time. It's not like there's a paucity of resources out there for folks to bitch about the gov, taxes or Romney's hairstyle. There's a great big world of pontificating ponderosa out there folks! On Jan 28, 2008 7:41 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, OK that was a bit harsh of a response I guess. But the thread subject pretty clearly indicates no MBZ content. Just delete it and move on if you're not interested. Allan On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Uh, this thread has no Mercedes content...capisce? This list is ostensibly for the discussion of Mercedes Benz vehicles. There's the banned list and limitless other resources out there bitching about whatever crosses one's mind. Just sayin' On Jan 28, 2008 7:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pot? Kettle? Where's YOUR Mercedes Benz contribution to this thread? Please STFU if you're just going to gripe. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Uh, this thread has no Mercedes content...capisce? This list is ostensibly for the discussion of Mercedes Benz vehicles. There's the banned list and limitless other resources out there bitching about whatever crosses one's mind. Just sayin' On Jan 28, 2008 7:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pot? Kettle? Where's YOUR Mercedes Benz contribution to this thread? Please STFU if you're just going to gripe. Allan On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles. Couldn't be worse than the typical free-for-all bitch-fest about nothing that seems to go on endlessly around here. Why not keep it slightly more focused on the topic at hand, eh? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
fair enough... On Jan 28, 2008 8:04 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the time affair. Well, you're right, but most listers seem to like it that way, or are at least tolerant of it. I find a lot of it interesting, especially the off-topic technical/mechanical threads. I'd be happy enough to see the political threads killed more quickly, but I can live with it as-is. The list owner is OK with it, so ... what? There are other, more strictly moderated forums for Mercedes talk if you want to seek them out. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] language drift
WTF? U FN SOBs R PWND ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] language drift
U B Pnwd, bro On Jan 24, 2008 8:40 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PWND? On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:04:29 -0600, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTF? U FN SOBs R PWND ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart
You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the stoopid jerks. From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough little cars. On Jan 21, 2008 8:48 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy. Once we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart. Weird looking, the first time I've seen one in person. Apparently not up to going even 55 mph with two people in them. Looks like a deathtrap. We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good look at the front. At the next light they hung well back, perhaps four car lengths. Apparently they don't like following old diesels. (We were in the infamous Chicken Wagon.) Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching mightily to his passenger about us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart
I think the Smart's safety cage design is similar to that which is found on my Vanagon. Both vehicles are deceptively vulnerable looking, yet have rigid structures that utilize the other car's crumple zones for protection. Frontal impacts into solid stationary objects are their achilles heel. http://www.vanagon.com/info/safety/volvo-crash/index.html On Jan 21, 2008 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around here they are either bleached blond women or bros/vatos with twennytoos or twennyfos, neither group paying much attention to anyone else. The Motorweek show yesterday had a test of a Smart, stressed the safety cage aspect of the thing (it had some name, after some designer) and the airbags it had. They said it was made to cause the other vehicle's crush zones to activate as well in a crash, while it was being crushed. No word on the physics of a 5500lb v. 1800lb crash at 30 or 70 mph. Did not inspire confidence in this viewer, though I could see it would be fun having one to putt around town. They showed it parking crosswise in a parking space in front of a bigass pickemup, but they were both stationary. I got the t-bone image though. --R Zeitgeist wrote: You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the stoopid jerks. From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough little cars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart squashability
Yes, the 75 mph run into the stationary barrier, but it's still a testament to the safety cage's durability. Almost no car's passengers would survive that same test--the physics work mightily against our relatively frail bodies On Jan 21, 2008 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough little cars. Car survives, passengers do not. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart squashability
In a modern MB, at least from the 124 onward, I think all the belts have some form of pyrotechnical tensioning device that essentially renders them fully kaput after a significant impact. On Jan 21, 2008 5:50 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No only do the belts stop you from smashing into things, but they do help dissipate some of that energy, and allow for a more controlled deceleration. Have a look at a belt after a high speed crash. Amazing to think you can stretch a seatbelt, but they do stretch, more than most think. There are huge forces at place in a crash. On that note, if a car has been in a collision where the belts were called upon, make sure they are changed along with the other repairs. You won't always see the damage, but best to think of them as a one time use only device. Just as you would a motorcycle helmet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Does anybody else get Homepower?
By golly, you're right... http://www.homepower.com/article/?file=HP122_pg96_Estill On Jan 18, 2008 8:28 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do get Homepower magazine check out the biodiesel shed (like a shed to keep your biodiesel warm in) article. Notice the picture of the photographer fueling her diesel car. Notice that its a 380 SL. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
I still haven't fixed mine, 'cause I can't seem to find the time to put it back together. I figured out that the fan was dying, but there may still be other issues to resolve once I get back on the project. I bought an Audi Quattro wagon to drive in the meantime, and its ACC works just dandy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple general questions about 190D
If a door has a keyhole, then it should both lock and unlock via that door. If the OM601 engine is anything like my OM603, then you shouldn't have much deflection at all in your serpentine belt. I'd look to the tensioner pivot to see if it's sitting at an angle to the timing chain cover. On Jan 16, 2008 12:24 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two quickies regarding our 87 190D: Is the passenger door supposed to not be able to unlock from the outside? Nothing at all happens when key is turned. How much deflection should the serp. belt have? We had it replaced with the alternator and various tensioner equip. It seems, to me, looser than it should be. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
I know next to nothing about those rigs, but I think they're super cool. If you do end up grabbing it, let me know, 'cause I'd love a chance to check one out. On Jan 16, 2008 11:25 AM, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed
All of the forged rims like those that I've seen for sale have been 16 On Jan 13, 2008 7:00 PM, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About the 16 wheels on that car, did they make those mags in 16? I got a set like that on my 201 and they are 15. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed No, I dont see how it would be more reliable. If anything, the other way around. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than the M104) ... Is this true? How reliable is that? What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 8:23 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citroen Diesel, yes, a Citroen Diesel!
Duh-rool! Gawd, I need that car. Too rich for my blood, though On Jan 11, 2008 3:39 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spotted a 1981 Citroen CX Pallas diesel on CL. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/535960324.html It seems like quite a cool car if you could find the parts to keep it running. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Audi S4
I'm considering picking up a '93 Audi 100 S4 as my winter rig (230 hp 20v 2.3L five cylinder w/AWD). Anyone know about or have much experience with them? Casey '87 300TD '89 Bluestar '90 90Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess 126 seats will fit in a 116
Aren't the front seats in a W126 powered? So, how does this guy adjust them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's OM 603 adventure
How do you intend to hold the crank when you re-torque the new balancer? On Jan 5, 2008 9:51 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We improvised -- since he's got a new balancer anyway, and the rubber on the old one is VERY soft (the source of his vibration, I'm fairly certain), we just welded a piece of angle iron to it so that it hit the floor after the old balancer was bolted back in place. I figured the very worst that would happen is that we'd tear the rubber off and have to weld the angle iron to the remaining part. Bolt came right out with the help of a length of square tubing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's OM 603 adventure
Hmmm, I guess I'll have to check mine to see what you're talking about. On Jan 6, 2008 6:59 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the balancer bolts onto the removable flange with the same bolts that hold the pulley on. This is why you need to check the pulley bolts, the balancer will destroy the front cover if it gets loose. The flange is bolted to the crank with a large (24mm?) bolt. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cokes
Yeah, and the price was freaking outrageous. I had no idea what they cost until after it was rang up at the cash register. Never again... On Jan 5, 2008 9:23 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Red Bull is 19.9% sugar, 0.1% caffene and 80% marketing. It's a great high carb boost but they have definitely pushed marketing to the edge. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/5/08 12:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cokes I tried Red Bull for the first time yesterday--no wings have sprouted, yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cokes
I think it was something like $2.38 for one 8 oz can--insane On Jan 5, 2008 9:39 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much is it in the US? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cokes
I tried Red Bull for the first time yesterday--no wings have sprouted, yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Fold down the seats and you can sleep maybe three or four kids in there at night--instant mobile home On Dec 31, 2007 12:11 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
My Vanagon could easily handle 7 people, without requiring 2 of them to sit in the way back and stare at the fools behind you...though, two of them would have to stare at the three sitting in the back seat. On Dec 31, 2007 12:54 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever watch the tv show John and Kate Plus 8 (I think I got the name right - not really sure about John)? A couple who had twins and then sextuplets. They have a big Ford Diesel van if I recall. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
Won't that be a bit tricky to turn the engine over with both valves closed? I suspect that you'll be able to see the bent valves by the height of the valve stems once the cam's out. On Dec 30, 2007 6:18 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do a compression test with the chain cam out. All the valves will be up you'll know right away. Those cylinders with bent valves will measure much lower than the others. I'm predicting 2 cylinders will read low. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:45 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam So what are the chances that a 602 that broke the chain and broke the cam does NOT have bent valves? Is is possible that the cam broke instead of bending a valve? Thinking maybe just replacing cam etc and seeing what happens without pulling the head. Am I just farting in a whirlwind? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the brushes and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the huge amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's almost entirely occluded any passage of air through there. It looks a lot like the texture of velour. Is there a preferred method for removing this offending gunk? I'll bet my heater/cooler output increases measurably after this little exercise. On Dec 26, 2007 12:07 PM, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty likely the fan motor is hosed. It will be fairly obvious once it's out, if the brushes are shot, and/or the commutator is deeply grooved. I would get the motor assembly WITH the fans mounted. The problem is that swapping the cages is difficult to do without breaking them. Although I've never tried, you might see if you can carefully remove your old cages intact... if so, you could attempt the motor-only swap. Be careful to get the cages installed in the right direction (!), and don't lose the balance clips on them either. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: heat.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 166199 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071226/6fe564d8/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 broken swaybar mount bracket
Mine all broke up at the top near the 90. I welded a large thick washer to the front side of the mounting surface, then added some supporting ribs to reduce the flexing at that juncture. That was maybe two months ago, so we'll see how it holds up. I think it's the new speed bumps in my neighborhood that are the major source of the problem...other than the fact that I sometimes fail to slow down sufficiently. Really, I'm the source of the problem, but I digress... On Dec 26, 2007 9:11 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am quite certain that impact load (rough roads) shorten the life of the brackets. Normally don't fail until high milage, and mine sure looked like a fatigue (stress corrosion) failure. They seem to break at the 90 degree bend at the top or at the start of the cup on the bottom, never anywhere else. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
Ah, so I'm presently experiencing a complete failure with my the climate control in my '87 300TD, which sorta sucks...you know, being that it's sub-freezing and all. Right now I'm getting no heat or fan output at all. I thought the default failure mode would kick the mono-valve wide open, allowing full heat into the cabin--that's obviously not going on here. So, this started somewhat intermittently, with the fan failing to kick in until a few minutes after starting the car, even on defrost. Then I noticed a clicking behind the dash when I accelerated first thing in the morning. Now, there's nothing at all. I just swapped in a spare pushbutton unit, but the failure mode is exactly the same. I also changed the #7 fuse in the box. I don't presently have my CD manual with me, so I'm blindly flailing around in desperation. Does anyone have a clue what's going on here? Klima? OVP relay? TIA, Casey '87 300TD 230k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
