Re: [MBZ] AC success
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:18:42 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Those with r134 from the factory, not sure when that started. > I think 92 or 93. Our '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo was R12. Our '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo is R134. I cannot say what a '92 would have. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
Those with r134 from the factory, not sure when that started. I think 92 or 93. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On June 24, 2019 8:04:35 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:29:11 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >> When I have The White Whale apart, wonder if I should install a >> parallel flow condenser to improve performance? If one shows up at >the >> pick-n-pull... > >What makes/models have the parallel flow condensers? > > >Craig > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:29:11 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > When I have The White Whale apart, wonder if I should install a > parallel flow condenser to improve performance? If one shows up at the > pick-n-pull... What makes/models have the parallel flow condensers? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
Thanks Wilton! Nice cold AC for the ride home after work. 94 degrees ambient, about 105 deg in the car after sitting in the parking lot but shaded for the last hour of work. Once I got onto the freeway, vent temperature dropped to 44 deg or less. It will freeze you right out now. When I have The White Whale apart, wonder if I should install a parallel flow condenser to improve performance? If one shows up at the pick-n-pull... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On June 24, 2019 1:10:29 PM EDT, Wilton Strickland via Mercedes wrote: >ATTABOY! >W > > -From: "Meade Dillon via >Mercedes" >To: "Mercedes" >Cc: "Meade Dillon" >Sent: Monday June 24 2019 9:22:46AM >Subject: [MBZ] AC success > >Saturday and yesterday I finished the reseal of the compressor, >installed > that, vacuumed the system for 30 minutes, and then put a small amount >of > propane / butane blend and then pressurized up to 150 psi with CO2. > Checked around with the sniffer for leaks, and noted a leak at the > compressor shaft seal and small leak (still) from the evaporator. > > The shaft seal leaking was expected, typically they need to run-in a >bit to > fully seat. I had one more can of leak sealer to address the >evaporator. > > Bled off the test charge, installed a new receiver / dryer, vacuum >again > for thirty minutes, then attempted to charge the system with r134. >First > can goes in liquid, engine off, once that is mostly into the system, >right > the can and then start the engine so compressor can suck in more >juice. > Now I've got intermittent compressor engagement. KLIMA finally >decided it > was done playing. I'm not sure if the relay is bad, or an input is >bad. > Spent some time futzing with it, no joy, so I took the bypass relay >and > wiring that I made up for The White Whale KLIMA and installed that >into > this '95 E300. Lost more time, I was too hasty and pulled out the >pins > from the White Whale KLIMA socket before I noted which went where >(only > three pins are used), so I had to search around for that info. Found >it on > Peach Parts. > > Finally got the KLIMA bypass going, and proceeded with charging the >system, > then installed the leak sealer. Ran the AC for another 20 plus >minutes per > the leak sealer instructions, and then checked again for leaks with >my > sniffer. No leaks detected anywhere, so I think I've finally got this >one > sorted. I do need to set up the transmission kick-down jumper, to >restore > that function. > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com [1] > > To search list archives > > >Links: >-- >[1] http://www.okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
ATTABOY! W -From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes" Cc: "Meade Dillon" Sent: Monday June 24 2019 9:22:46AM Subject: [MBZ] AC success Saturday and yesterday I finished the reseal of the compressor, installed that, vacuumed the system for 30 minutes, and then put a small amount of propane / butane blend and then pressurized up to 150 psi with CO2. Checked around with the sniffer for leaks, and noted a leak at the compressor shaft seal and small leak (still) from the evaporator. The shaft seal leaking was expected, typically they need to run-in a bit to fully seat. I had one more can of leak sealer to address the evaporator. Bled off the test charge, installed a new receiver / dryer, vacuum again for thirty minutes, then attempted to charge the system with r134. First can goes in liquid, engine off, once that is mostly into the system, right the can and then start the engine so compressor can suck in more juice. Now I've got intermittent compressor engagement. KLIMA finally decided it was done playing. I'm not sure if the relay is bad, or an input is bad. Spent some time futzing with it, no joy, so I took the bypass relay and wiring that I made up for The White Whale KLIMA and installed that into this '95 E300. Lost more time, I was too hasty and pulled out the pins from the White Whale KLIMA socket before I noted which went where (only three pins are used), so I had to search around for that info. Found it on Peach Parts. Finally got the KLIMA bypass going, and proceeded with charging the system, then installed the leak sealer. Ran the AC for another 20 plus minutes per the leak sealer instructions, and then checked again for leaks with my sniffer. No leaks detected anywhere, so I think I've finally got this one sorted. I do need to set up the transmission kick-down jumper, to restore that function. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com [1] To search list archives Links: -- [1] http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
My comment, based on a faint recollection of a recommendation from somebody else, was pertaining to periodically running it AFTER the initial 20 minute run. Mitch. > On June 24, 2019 at 11:15 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Instructions say operate the AC system for 20 minutes after installing the > sealer (yes the Cliplight Super Seal Premium to be exact). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
Instructions say operate the AC system for 20 minutes after installing the sealer (yes the Cliplight Super Seal Premium to be exact). - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
You’re supposed to run the system for a minimum of 20 minutes after using it, I believe. I usually go for a 20-30 minute drive to distribute it. They address this in the instructions. -D > On Jun 24, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cliplight sealer? > I seem to recall somebody, somewhere, saying something about running it five > minutes per hour for the first few hours, recirculate the stuff and get more > sealer in the vicinity of the leak. > > My plan was to go for a nice long drive, run it for 20 minutes, then run it > five minutes on and ten minutes off for the rest of the trip, but I admit I > still have never used the stuff, so all I have is theory, not results. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
Cliplight sealer? I seem to recall somebody, somewhere, saying something about running it five minutes per hour for the first few hours, recirculate the stuff and get more sealer in the vicinity of the leak. My plan was to go for a nice long drive, run it for 20 minutes, then run it five minutes on and ten minutes off for the rest of the trip, but I admit I still have never used the stuff, so all I have is theory, not results. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
I'm getting 45 def F vent temperatures under mild conditions (85 degrees out). We'll see later today, predicted high is 95. 45 is cold enough for me. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:26 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dose it BLOW ICE COLD? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Saturday and yesterday I finished the reseal of the compressor, installed > > that, vacuumed the system for 30 minutes, and then put a small amount of > > propane / butane blend and then pressurized up to 150 psi with CO2. > > Checked around with the sniffer for leaks, and noted a leak at the > > compressor shaft seal and small leak (still) from the evaporator. > > > > The shaft seal leaking was expected, typically they need to run-in a bit > to > > fully seat. I had one more can of leak sealer to address the evaporator. > > > > Bled off the test charge, installed a new receiver / dryer, vacuum again > > for thirty minutes, then attempted to charge the system with r134. First > > can goes in liquid, engine off, once that is mostly into the system, > right > > the can and then start the engine so compressor can suck in more juice. > > Now I've got intermittent compressor engagement. KLIMA finally decided > it > > was done playing. I'm not sure if the relay is bad, or an input is bad. > > Spent some time futzing with it, no joy, so I took the bypass relay and > > wiring that I made up for The White Whale KLIMA and installed that into > > this '95 E300. Lost more time, I was too hasty and pulled out the pins > > from the White Whale KLIMA socket before I noted which went where (only > > three pins are used), so I had to search around for that info. Found it > on > > Peach Parts. > > > > Finally got the KLIMA bypass going, and proceeded with charging the > system, > > then installed the leak sealer. Ran the AC for another 20 plus minutes > per > > the leak sealer instructions, and then checked again for leaks with my > > sniffer. No leaks detected anywhere, so I think I've finally got this > one > > sorted. I do need to set up the transmission kick-down jumper, to > restore > > that function. > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC success
Dose it BLOW ICE COLD? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Saturday and yesterday I finished the reseal of the compressor, installed > that, vacuumed the system for 30 minutes, and then put a small amount of > propane / butane blend and then pressurized up to 150 psi with CO2. > Checked around with the sniffer for leaks, and noted a leak at the > compressor shaft seal and small leak (still) from the evaporator. > > The shaft seal leaking was expected, typically they need to run-in a bit to > fully seat. I had one more can of leak sealer to address the evaporator. > > Bled off the test charge, installed a new receiver / dryer, vacuum again > for thirty minutes, then attempted to charge the system with r134. First > can goes in liquid, engine off, once that is mostly into the system, right > the can and then start the engine so compressor can suck in more juice. > Now I've got intermittent compressor engagement. KLIMA finally decided it > was done playing. I'm not sure if the relay is bad, or an input is bad. > Spent some time futzing with it, no joy, so I took the bypass relay and > wiring that I made up for The White Whale KLIMA and installed that into > this '95 E300. Lost more time, I was too hasty and pulled out the pins > from the White Whale KLIMA socket before I noted which went where (only > three pins are used), so I had to search around for that info. Found it on > Peach Parts. > > Finally got the KLIMA bypass going, and proceeded with charging the system, > then installed the leak sealer. Ran the AC for another 20 plus minutes per > the leak sealer instructions, and then checked again for leaks with my > sniffer. No leaks detected anywhere, so I think I've finally got this one > sorted. I do need to set up the transmission kick-down jumper, to restore > that function. > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] AC success
Saturday and yesterday I finished the reseal of the compressor, installed that, vacuumed the system for 30 minutes, and then put a small amount of propane / butane blend and then pressurized up to 150 psi with CO2. Checked around with the sniffer for leaks, and noted a leak at the compressor shaft seal and small leak (still) from the evaporator. The shaft seal leaking was expected, typically they need to run-in a bit to fully seat. I had one more can of leak sealer to address the evaporator. Bled off the test charge, installed a new receiver / dryer, vacuum again for thirty minutes, then attempted to charge the system with r134. First can goes in liquid, engine off, once that is mostly into the system, right the can and then start the engine so compressor can suck in more juice. Now I've got intermittent compressor engagement. KLIMA finally decided it was done playing. I'm not sure if the relay is bad, or an input is bad. Spent some time futzing with it, no joy, so I took the bypass relay and wiring that I made up for The White Whale KLIMA and installed that into this '95 E300. Lost more time, I was too hasty and pulled out the pins from the White Whale KLIMA socket before I noted which went where (only three pins are used), so I had to search around for that info. Found it on Peach Parts. Finally got the KLIMA bypass going, and proceeded with charging the system, then installed the leak sealer. Ran the AC for another 20 plus minutes per the leak sealer instructions, and then checked again for leaks with my sniffer. No leaks detected anywhere, so I think I've finally got this one sorted. I do need to set up the transmission kick-down jumper, to restore that function. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
