Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
 ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many 
 Amerikuns call parking lights
 
I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. 
You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a 
bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would 
be a bit more circumspect.

Roger Ellingson/Seattle






Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist

I prefer the term Merkins, myself.

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I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning.
You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find
it a
bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you
would
be a bit more circumspect.



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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Roger!

if you think i can't make fun of a group that we're a part of, then we have
very different senses of humor, and/or you're too easily offended/demeaned, 
and/or
you don't understand the freedoms of expression and the right to not necessarily
blindly agree with government that our (arguably great) country was founded on.
aside from that, it *certainly* isn't that big a deal.

i don't believe the fact that i've been here (and on the previous 
incarnation
of this list) for years (whether you've noticed or not) doesn't really have any
bearing on the matter.

i guess you can (and perhaps will) feel insulted and demeaned if you 
choose
to, but it's not meant that way. regardless, i honor, respect and support your
right to do so, as much as my right to make fun of myself.;-)


cheers!
e


'85 300D
Berkeley


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many
  Amerikuns call parking lights
 
 I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning.
 You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it 
 a
 bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would
 be a bit more circumspect.

 Roger Ellingson/Seattle




Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you
  and many  Amerikuns call parking lights
  
 I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and
 demeaning.  You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the
 common herd but I find it a  bit much. I would think that as a
 newish contributor to this list, you would  be a bit more
 circumspect.

I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA
that think they alone are Americans.

What about Canada? 

And Mexico? 

They are both even in _North_ America.  What about all of central and
south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as
much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called
Asian.

America is a _continent_ not a country!!

So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering
fasion, I think it is eminently suitable.

-- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA



Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Canfield
Yeah Phillip.What you said. 


Mike
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rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you
 and many  Amerikuns call parking lights
 
I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and

demeaning.  You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the
common herd but I find it a  bit much. I would think that as a
newish contributor to this list, you would  be a bit more
circumspect.


I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA
that think they alone are Americans.

What about Canada? 

And Mexico? 


They are both even in _North_ America.  What about all of central and
south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as
much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called
Asian.

America is a _continent_ not a country!!

So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering
fasion, I think it is eminently suitable.

-- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA

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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread V Layton
I'm sure the last thing a Canadian wants to be called is an American.  
(We're the imperialistic scum of the earth, don't you know?)


Those in Mexico just aim for US citizenship, and everyone south of that has 
their own country name.


American is just a leftover common term no one else wanted, so we got t 
because it's easier that saying Citizen of the United States of America


There are no Asians, Africans or Europeans that designate sovereign 
citizenship status of a particualr country.  (No wonder we're considered 
such arrogant bastards)  Austrailia is the obvious exception, of course.


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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Christopher McCann
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Q) what specifically identifies a USA person?

A) Ignorance and disinterest of anything and anyplace outside of the USA.

-Dave Walton

On 11/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are  
 Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then  what are 
 residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be  Canadians with 
 their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside  from American, what 
 specifically identifies a USA person?

   CM



 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   and many  Amerikuns call parking lights
  
  I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and
  demeaning.  You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the
  common herd but I find it a  bit much. I would think that as a
  newish contributor to this list, you would  be a bit more
  circumspect.

 I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA
 that think they alone are Americans.

 What about Canada?

 And Mexico?

 They are both even in _North_ America.  What about all of central and
 south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as
 much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called
 Asian.

 America is a _continent_ not a country!!

 So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering
 fasion, I think it is eminently suitable.

 -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA

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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Canfield
Well I guess not knowing what to call himself would be a good way to 
tell.You set yourself up for that one...LOL


US Citizen would be what I say.

Mike
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I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are 
Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then  what 
are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be  Canadians 
with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside  from American, 
what specifically identifies a USA person?


 CM



Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



 
 and many  Amerikuns call parking lights

I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and
demeaning.  You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the
common herd but I find it a  bit much. I would think that as a
newish contributor to this list, you would  be a bit more
circumspect.


I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA
that think they alone are Americans.

What about Canada?

And Mexico?

They are both even in _North_ America.  What about all of central and
south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as
much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called
Asian.

America is a _continent_ not a country!!

So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering
fasion, I think it is eminently suitable.

-- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA

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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist

Heh heh, I like Users...says it all.

On 11/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So if North and South Americans are Americans, then  what are residents
of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be  Canadians with their pot
law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside  from American, what
specifically identifies a USA person?





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Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Christopher McCann
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Okay, isn't the noise to signal ratio getting a little out of hand on these
threads?

I'm not trying to be list nazi, but some of these threads get quite out
of hand, and you don't want certain experts on this list to get tired of
having to kill every thread and leave (again).

K

On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 11:16:26AM -0800, Christopher McCann wrote:
 It's true that US Americans are, on the average, ignorant of anything  beyond 
 the USA. But that is mostly due to our geography. I drove 17  hours from 
 Kansas City to Greeneville, SC. There are regional  differences, but pretty 
 much the same. 897 miles...1,440 km.  Now  Barcelona, Spain to Prague, Czech 
 Republic is 1,679 km. Not sure the  route...but probably, Spain, France, 
 Germany, Czech Republic...maybe  through Switzerland if a southern route is 
 taken. In Switzerland alone  4 languages are spoke (German, French, Italian, 
 Romansch)...Europeans  are forced to think beyond their borders. We are not.
   
   I firmly believe (OK, here is where I will get banned for being a Nazi  - 
 FYI I am NOT A NAZI) that different peoples IN GENERAL have different  
 characteristics and national qualities. Americans are FRIENDLY -  probably 
 the friendliest people in the world (some Euros interpret this  as 
 insincerity) and Americans are also very can-do people...positive,  DIY, 
 independent (sometimes to a fault). Germans have described this as  the 
 ability to cut through paperwork.
   
   Well, my 2 cents.
   
   Chris (who is so non-American, I only take a shower once a week. My German 
 penpals found that to be totally normal)