Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

On rereading it I see what you mean. I like to 
watch a lot of auto racing and downhill skiing and 
have seen on OTA broadcasts a lot of pixilating, 
more in the background then the center of focus. I 
guess I will give it a try and see how it goes.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, the Tablo does H.264, but then again, so do a lot of streaming devices. 
As our OTA stuff is no better than 720p for the most part, there’s little to no 
loss. That and the majority of what we watch form the Tablo is stuff that’s low 
res, like old Perry Mason episodes, so again, quality isn’t usually an issue. 
Not that it matters much, but I’ve got a 4GB hard drive on the Tablo for 
storage, so I’m storing at the highest (8 Mbps/second) bandwidth possible, too.

I think the key phrase here is "It'll depend on your network and what devices 
you're streaming to”.

My network is 1Gb copper for most of the house, with the master bedroom using 
5GHz wifi from a mesh network that has a node maybe 15 feet away. Signal 
strength is solid.

-D



On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a quote 
of what I read,

What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some additional 
hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to H.264. If 
you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all if that isn't the sort 
of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means the video stream is converted from 
one format to another.

The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so that 
it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various devices 
in your home.

Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different and 
it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. If 
you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.

The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even though 
H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and what 
devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. Just be 
prepared, is all we're saying.


So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.

Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.
There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.
-D

On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
fast action shots so I was wondering about that.

MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
-D

On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pluto TV is an app that lets you watch free TV, too. It’s got a lot of old 
stuff on it, but there’s some more modern things, too. Kind of fun to just 
troll through it to see what’s there.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been watching Netflix and Amazon Prime mostly, the quality seems to be 
> getting better.  I have like 15Mbps cnxn so plenty of bandwidth.  It's really 
> weird, every evening at like 11:44PM the bandwidth goes to like a 56k dial up 
> connection, picture gets all blocky.  This is every night at almost exactly 
> the same time.  i don't know if I have some device that is calling home, or 
> my cnxn goes into fits for some reason, or what, but it is really weird. 
> After a minute or so it will recover and the picture slowly gets better, I 
> guess as it buffers or something.
> 
> Amazon Prime has a bunch of other channel apps you can download, i was 
> leeching HBO I think, and it had a lot of stuff too. The AppleTV also has 
> lots of stuff, including the PBS app so you can watch most everything on 
> that.  The news is a day later, but who cares, nothing changes anyway.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/15/19 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a 
>> quote of what I read,
>> 
>> What's not so good about Tablo?
>> 
>> One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some 
>> additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to 
>> H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all 
>> if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means 
>> the video stream is converted from one format to another.
>> 
>> The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
>> that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so 
>> that it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various 
>> devices in your home.
>> 
>> Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
>> First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
>> and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. 
>> If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.
>> 
>> The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even 
>> though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and 
>> what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. 
>> Just be prepared, is all we're saying.
>> 
>> 
>> So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.
>> 
>> Just wanted to get another opinion.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, 
>>> but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a 
>>> Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture 
>>> quality is not a concern.
>>> 
>>> There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes 
>>> to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here 
>>> it rarely occurs.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Thanks Dan,
 
 One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem 
 in fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
 
 MG
 
 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
> things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
> both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
> that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
> -D
>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
>> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the 
>> transcoding  causes in quick action scenes and sports.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back 
>>> of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut 
>>> the cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR 
>>> and YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for 
>>> about $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet 
>>> access costs me about $50/month.
>>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store 
>>> this week and handing them their boxes back.
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have been watching Netflix and Amazon Prime mostly, the quality seems 
to be getting better.  I have like 15Mbps cnxn so plenty of bandwidth.  
It's really weird, every evening at like 11:44PM the bandwidth goes to 
like a 56k dial up connection, picture gets all blocky.  This is every 
night at almost exactly the same time.  i don't know if I have some 
device that is calling home, or my cnxn goes into fits for some reason, 
or what, but it is really weird. After a minute or so it will recover 
and the picture slowly gets better, I guess as it buffers or something.


Amazon Prime has a bunch of other channel apps you can download, i was 
leeching HBO I think, and it had a lot of stuff too. The AppleTV also 
has lots of stuff, including the PBS app so you can watch most 
everything on that.  The news is a day later, but who cares, nothing 
changes anyway.


--FT

On 10/15/19 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is 
a quote of what I read,


What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has 
some additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream 
from MPEG-2 to H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we 
don't blame you at all if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on 
a regular basis), that means the video stream is converted from one 
format to another.


The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the 
video so that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're 
recording, and so that it requires less bandwidth when you're 
streaming the video to various devices in your home.


Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to 
this? First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a 
different and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 
15 seconds or so. If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), 
you'll absolutely notice this.


The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, 
even though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your 
network and what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of 
variables here. Just be prepared, is all we're saying.



So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.

Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of 
bandwidth, but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports 
unless maybe a Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the 
sucking, so picture quality is not a concern.


There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it 
comes to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the 
antennas here it rarely occurs.


-D


On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  
wrote:


Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture 
problem in fast action shots so I was wondering about that.


MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for 
how things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. 
That’s with both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It 
also includes setups that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D
On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the 
transcoding  causes in quick action scenes and sports.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the 
back of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s 
time to cut the cord. Did a lot of research and found that 
between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can get nearly 
everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to 
over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about 
$50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company 
store this week and handing them their boxes back.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, the Tablo does H.264, but then again, so do a lot of streaming devices. 
As our OTA stuff is no better than 720p for the most part, there’s little to no 
loss. That and the majority of what we watch form the Tablo is stuff that’s low 
res, like old Perry Mason episodes, so again, quality isn’t usually an issue. 
Not that it matters much, but I’ve got a 4GB hard drive on the Tablo for 
storage, so I’m storing at the highest (8 Mbps/second) bandwidth possible, too.

I think the key phrase here is "It'll depend on your network and what devices 
you're streaming to”.

My network is 1Gb copper for most of the house, with the master bedroom using 
5GHz wifi from a mesh network that has a node maybe 15 feet away. Signal 
strength is solid.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a 
> quote of what I read,
> 
> What's not so good about Tablo?
> 
> One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some 
> additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to 
> H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all 
> if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means 
> the video stream is converted from one format to another.
> 
> The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
> that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so 
> that it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various 
> devices in your home.
> 
> Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
> First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
> and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. 
> If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.
> 
> The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even 
> though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and 
> what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. Just 
> be prepared, is all we're saying.
> 
> 
> So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.
> 
> Just wanted to get another opinion.
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, 
>> but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a 
>> Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture 
>> quality is not a concern.
>> There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes 
>> to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
>> rarely occurs.
>> -D
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dan,
>>> 
>>> One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
>>> fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
 We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
 things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
 both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
 that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
 -D
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding 
>  causes in quick action scenes and sports.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back 
>> of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut 
>> the cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR 
>> and YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for 
>> about $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet 
>> access costs me about $50/month.
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

I got the impression that it had nothing to do 
with bandwidth. Here is a quote of what I read,


What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little 
technical. Tablo has some additional hardware 
inside that "transcodes" the video stream from 
MPEG-2 to H.264. If you're not up on your video 
codecs (and we don't blame you at all if that 
isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular 
basis), that means the video stream is converted 
from one format to another.


The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: 
Tablo transcodes the video so that it takes up 
less room on the hard drive when you're recording, 
and so that it requires less bandwidth when you're 
streaming the video to various devices in your home.


Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. 
But the downsides to this? First is that there's a 
noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
and it starts the transcoding process. We're 
talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. If you're an 
impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll 
absolutely notice this.


The other thing is that video quality can 
definitely suffer a bit, even though H.264 is 
supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your 
network and what devices you're streaming to — 
there can be a lot of variables here. Just be 
prepared, is all we're saying.



So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it 
isn't that noticeable.


Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.

There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.

-D



On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
fast action shots so I was wondering about that.

MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
-D

On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.

There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan,
> 
> One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
> fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
>> things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
>> both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
>> that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
>> -D
>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
>>> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
>>> causes in quick action scenes and sports.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of 
 a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the 
 cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and 
 YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about 
 $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access 
 costs me about $50/month.
 I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
 week and handing them their boxes back.
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan,

 One of the reviewers was saying something about 
a slight picture problem in fast action shots so I 
was wondering about that.


MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D


On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
> causes in quick action scenes and sports.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
>> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
>> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
>> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month 
>> compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me 
>> about $50/month.
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:25:18 -0800 Clay Monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> AKC has crap internet.

AKC? Surely not American Kennel Club ...


Craig

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[MG via Mercedes]

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the 
considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the 
picture the transcoding  causes in quick action 
scenes and sports.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.

I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

So, what took ya so long to tell them to stuff it?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 11:53 AM:

I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.

We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the area 
is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great coverage of 
OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we had with cable.

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It does. You have to have interwebz access.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How does youtubeTV get there?  I had assumed it ran on your interwebz.  
> 
> I gave up on live TV due to poor quality digital signal and cost of service 
> for cable shows.  I had intended to swap to the DSL folks back many years ago 
> and took the crimecast box back to their store.  The fellow behind the desk 
> was bending over backward to get me to stay.  I was talked into a 
> phone/interweb bundle because that was less expensive than interweb alone.  
> The next time service went bad and they tried to hike the fees, the box and I 
> returned to the store.  Got another deal that dropped the bill back to the 
> same price of two years prior.  I kept that up for 8 years until I began 
> packing the house to head out of SEA.  Now I exist on the pitiful hotspot on 
> the cell phone if I need interwebz at the house in town.
> 
> AKC has crap internet.  SWMBA is using DSL from the dark ages.  Speeds of 
> 2.3mbps.  Just barely enough to stream netflix and download email.
> 
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
>> with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
>> about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
>> Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.
>> 
>> We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the 
>> area is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great 
>> coverage of OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we 
>> had with cable.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
>>> that Dish?
>>> 
 On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
 My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues 
 before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been 
 paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether 
 but see what deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be 
 able to strong arm them if you say you are going to another service.
>>> 
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[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

How does youtubeTV get there?  I had assumed it ran on your interwebz.  

I gave up on live TV due to poor quality digital signal and cost of service for 
cable shows.  I had intended to swap to the DSL folks back many years ago and 
took the crimecast box back to their store.  The fellow behind the desk was 
bending over backward to get me to stay.  I was talked into a phone/interweb 
bundle because that was less expensive than interweb alone.  The next time 
service went bad and they tried to hike the fees, the box and I returned to the 
store.  Got another deal that dropped the bill back to the same price of two 
years prior.  I kept that up for 8 years until I began packing the house to 
head out of SEA.  Now I exist on the pitiful hotspot on the cell phone if I 
need interwebz at the house in town.

AKC has crap internet.  SWMBA is using DSL from the dark ages.  Speeds of 
2.3mbps.  Just barely enough to stream netflix and download email.


clay


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
> with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
> about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
> Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.
> 
> We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the 
> area is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great 
> coverage of OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we 
> had with cable.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
>> that Dish?
>> 
>>> On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues 
>>> before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been 
>>> paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but 
>>> see what deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able 
>>> to strong arm them if you say you are going to another service.
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Hmm, this guy claims the guys selling unthrottled are FOS:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AT-T-Unlimited-4G-LTE-Data-Plan-34-99-Hotspot-/173875000427

> On October 13, 2019 at 4:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe I should get one of these to run my home internet instead of paying $98 
> a month for 12gb wireless radio service

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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We have a Verizon Fios bundle (internet, cable TB, land line) and their
customer service is surprisingly good/prompt.  Cable DVR picture quality is
a little spotty but I really cant complain.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 4:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe I should get one of these to run my home internet instead of paying
> $98 a month for 12gb wireless radio service
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, I don't know the details, but people on eBay are selling the right
> to buy $35 uncapped/unthrottled AT hotspot service:
> > https://www.ebay.com/i/123800554069
> >
> > A year ago, if you bought a in-car hotspot, AT would sell you the same
> service for $20.
> > I guess they got tired of people throwing the Mobley in the closet and
> sticking the SIM in their home hotspot.
> >
> https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1894167-Stand-alone-AT-amp-amp-T-Unlimited-ZTE-Mobley-Hotspot-now-only-20!!!
> !!
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe I should get one of these to run my home internet instead of paying $98 a 
month for 12gb wireless radio service 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> BTW, I don't know the details, but people on eBay are selling the right to 
> buy $35 uncapped/unthrottled AT hotspot service:
> https://www.ebay.com/i/123800554069
> 
> A year ago, if you bought a in-car hotspot, AT would sell you the same 
> service for $20.
> I guess they got tired of people throwing the Mobley in the closet and 
> sticking the SIM in their home hotspot.
> https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1894167-Stand-alone-AT-amp-amp-T-Unlimited-ZTE-Mobley-Hotspot-now-only-20!
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

BTW, I don't know the details, but people on eBay are selling the right to buy 
$35 uncapped/unthrottled AT hotspot service:
https://www.ebay.com/i/123800554069

A year ago, if you bought a in-car hotspot, AT would sell you the same 
service for $20.
I guess they got tired of people throwing the Mobley in the closet and sticking 
the SIM in their home hotspot.
https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1894167-Stand-alone-AT-amp-amp-T-Unlimited-ZTE-Mobley-Hotspot-now-only-20!

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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Looks like it's conditions placed on one company's merger approval, not the 
industry as a whole.
Mitch

> On October 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like that’s the law until 2023 or thereabouts.
> 
> https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11586392/charter-fcc-broadband-data-caps

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like that’s the law until 2023 or thereabouts.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11586392/charter-fcc-broadband-data-caps

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just checked their web site and Spectrum does not have data caps.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is Comcast/Spectrum your internet provider too?
>> I have a client that has them. When he cut the cord and started using 
>> streaming services
>> Commiecast put a cap on data to 4 gigs a month. If you go over they "Offer" 
>> up grade data
>> service for a price ( and it ain't cheep). So they penalize you for dropping 
>> their tv service.
>> 
>> Russ W.
>> 


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just checked their web site and Spectrum does not have data caps.

-D

 
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is Comcast/Spectrum your internet provider too?
> I have a client that has them. When he cut the cord and started using 
> streaming services
> Commiecast put a cap on data to 4 gigs a month. If you go over they "Offer" 
> up grade data
> service for a price ( and it ain't cheep). So they penalize you for dropping 
> their tv service.
> 
> Russ W.
> 
> On 10/13/2019 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
>> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
>> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
>> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month 
>> compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me 
>> about $50/month.
>> 
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> 
>> -D
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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Where do you get internet access?
Gerry

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 11:48:55 -0400
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:

> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared 
> to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about 
> $50/month.
> 
> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
> and handing them their boxes back.
> 
> -D
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

4GB or 400GB?
If I only needed 4gb/mo, I wouldn't buy it from Comcast.
(8 years ago, I paid $40/mo for Virgin Wireless datacard with 4GB cap, and 
cellular data cost a lot more back then)
https://www.totalwireless.com/serviceplan?session=reset

> On October 13, 2019 at 3:17 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is Comcast/Spectrum your internet provider too?
> I have a client that has them. When he cut the cord and started using 
> streaming services
> Commiecast put a cap on data to 4 gigs a month.

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, and that’s something I’m aware of and will be asking about, but thanks for 
bringing it up. I’ve got a youngster who plays XBox Live daily, so I’m sure 
we’ve gone well over 4Gb a month.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is Comcast/Spectrum your internet provider too?
> I have a client that has them. When he cut the cord and started using 
> streaming services
> Commiecast put a cap on data to 4 gigs a month. If you go over they "Offer" 
> up grade data
> service for a price ( and it ain't cheep). So they penalize you for dropping 
> their tv service.
> 
> Russ W.
> 
> On 10/13/2019 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
>> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
>> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
>> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month 
>> compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me 
>> about $50/month.
>> 
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> 
>> -D
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[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

Is Comcast/Spectrum your internet provider too?
I have a client that has them. When he cut the cord and started using 
streaming services
Commiecast put a cap on data to 4 gigs a month. If you go over they 
"Offer" up grade data
service for a price ( and it ain't cheep). So they penalize you for 
dropping their tv service.


Russ W.

On 10/13/2019 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.

I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.

-D
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Has anyone had luck with OTA (over the air) antenna's?
   Maps of local coverage looks promising.


Absolutely. I have one and it works very well. Too bad I don't watch TV.

Rick
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You know, short of not using the Internets, it’s going to happen one way or 
another. They’ll be sorely disappointed with my data, as the extent of my TV 
viewing is usually a Family Guy or Perry Mason off the DVR before I nod off. If 
it wasn’t for the spouse the TVs around here would be paperweights.

-D

  
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So you have to pay Goolag $50/mo to accumulate and sell info on your viewing 
> habits?
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On October 13, 2019 at 1:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> YouTube TV is a subscription service that costs $50/month.
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So you have to pay Goolag $50/mo to accumulate and sell info on your viewing 
habits?

Mitch.

> On October 13, 2019 at 1:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> YouTube TV is a subscription service that costs $50/month.

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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

speaking pf DVR, one thing I dislike about  Dish is the format they use 
to record stuff on the Recorder.  I'm told there is no way tp convert the
 Dish format to anything that can be used on more traditional formats.  
I like to record some stuff (like LeMans) but unless I am committed to 
Dish, keeping recordings is not likely.  Other than that, Dish has been 
pretty good except for the ocassional streaming interruptions which are 
usually less than 2 or 3 seconds.   When it gets wiindy we often have 
interruptions - I assume the dish is shaking or something.


Has anyone had luck with OTA (over the air) antenna's?
  Maps of local coverage looks promising.

Larry


On 10/13/2019 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I think they all probably do it.  I have been with Dish for nearly 20 
years straight and I am quite sure new customers get it cheaper than I 
do.  I have thought about switching back and for the between direct 
and dish every couple of years but have not bothered.  If these 
streaming services got DVR figured out a little better like dish I 
might cut the cord.  I have found by the time I add up everything I 
would want it is not that much cheaper than what I am paying now and 
everything is pretty much turn key with their receivers.


On 10/13/2019 11:43 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, 
or is that Dish?


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My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some 
issues before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she 
hasn’t been paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna 
cancel it altogether but see what deal they pitched her to keep her 
as a customer. You might be able to strong arm them if you say you 
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

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Rick,

YouTube TV is a subscription service that costs $50/month. It carries many of 
the major cable networks as well as your local stations, at least the network 
affiliates. You use a streaming device like an AppleTV, Roku or Amazon 
Firestick to access it on your TV or computer using their application.

The DVR function is built into their application. For instance, I just searched 
for Family Guy and told it I want all new episodes recorded for the season. You 
can also watch a fair amount of stuff on demand as well.

I bought a refurbished “Tablo” OTA DVR box for about $75. Using an HDTV antenna 
and an external hard drive, it will record any of our OTA stations for me. It 
has a subscription service that’s $5/month for the scheduling, which you would 
need for the DVR function. Without the hard drive you can still watch OTA 
stations, but not record them.

https://www.tablotv.com/ 

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How will you DVR any of your shows?  Are you going to buy one for OTR or just 
> watch things the old fashioned way in real time?
> 
> On 10/13/2019 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
>> with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
>> about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
>> Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.
>> 
>> We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the 
>> area is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great 
>> coverage of OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we 
>> had with cable.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
>>> that Dish?
>>> 
 On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
 My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues 
 before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been 
 paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether 
 but see what deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be 
 able to strong arm them if you say you are going to another service.
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I might need to revisit this at some point.  Last time I looked there 
did not seem to be any that had DVR.  I also only have a 12mbs 
connection here which normally runs about half that speed or even down 
to 1-2 when everyone in the house is streaming and gaming.


On 10/13/2019 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s one of the reasons we went with YouTube TV. Unlimited DVR and 
scheduling, so you can program it for a series or shows, it vacuums them up and 
you can watch them when you have time. Not all of the streaming services have 
DVR capabilities.

We also looked at Philo, which has all of the “lifestyle” channels, many of 
which she likes to watch. It’s only $20/month and also has DVR capabilities, 
too.

-D



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 wrote:

I think they all probably do it.  I have been with Dish for nearly 20 years 
straight and I am quite sure new customers get it cheaper than I do.  I have 
thought about switching back and for the between direct and dish every couple 
of years but have not bothered.  If these streaming services got DVR figured 
out a little better like dish I might cut the cord.  I have found by the time I 
add up everything I would want it is not that much cheaper than what I am 
paying now and everything is pretty much turn key with their receivers.

On 10/13/2019 11:43 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
that Dish?


On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying much. 
That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what deal 
they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong arm 
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That’s one of the reasons we went with YouTube TV. Unlimited DVR and 
scheduling, so you can program it for a series or shows, it vacuums them up and 
you can watch them when you have time. Not all of the streaming services have 
DVR capabilities.

We also looked at Philo, which has all of the “lifestyle” channels, many of 
which she likes to watch. It’s only $20/month and also has DVR capabilities, 
too.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think they all probably do it.  I have been with Dish for nearly 20 years 
> straight and I am quite sure new customers get it cheaper than I do.  I have 
> thought about switching back and for the between direct and dish every couple 
> of years but have not bothered.  If these streaming services got DVR figured 
> out a little better like dish I might cut the cord.  I have found by the time 
> I add up everything I would want it is not that much cheaper than what I am 
> paying now and everything is pretty much turn key with their receivers.
> 
> On 10/13/2019 11:43 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
>> that Dish?
>> 
>>> On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues 
>>> before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been 
>>> paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but 
>>> see what deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able 
>>> to strong arm them if you say you are going to another service.
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

How will you DVR any of your shows?  Are you going to buy one for OTR or 
just watch things the old fashioned way in real time?


On 10/13/2019 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.

We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the area 
is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great coverage of 
OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we had with cable.

-D



On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
that Dish?


On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying much. 
That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what deal 
they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong arm 
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What is YouTube tv? I watch regular YouTube on my TV  when I'm on the exercise 
machine.


Rick
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think they all probably do it.  I have been with Dish for nearly 20 
years straight and I am quite sure new customers get it cheaper than I 
do.  I have thought about switching back and for the between direct and 
dish every couple of years but have not bothered.  If these streaming 
services got DVR figured out a little better like dish I might cut the 
cord.  I have found by the time I add up everything I would want it is 
not that much cheaper than what I am paying now and everything is pretty 
much turn key with their receivers.


On 10/13/2019 11:43 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
that Dish?


On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying much. 
That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what deal 
they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong arm 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m wondering that myself. I’m not putting up a dish as I don’t want to mess 
with all the related crap that goes with it. That’s one of the great things 
about streaming services - you can get programming anywhere you have an 
Internet connection, hard wired or WiFi.

We’re lucky in that the antenna farm with nearly every OTA station in the area 
is only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. With the great coverage of 
OTA stations and YouTube TV we’re getting nearly everything we had with cable.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
> that Dish?
> 
>> On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues 
>> before and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been 
>> paying much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but 
>> see what deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able 
>> to strong arm them if you say you are going to another service.
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does Direct pull the "first year cheap with two year contract" trick, or is 
that Dish?

> On October 13, 2019 at 12:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
> and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying 
> much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what 
> deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong 
> arm them if you say you are going to another service.

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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our local cable providers don’t bother with “retention” until you bail. When we 
had Verizon they would send you to someone that had the ability to deal to get 
you to stay. Since Frontier and Comcast came to town their attitude seems to be 
“Good luck, it’s been nice, we’ll see you.”

Since I’ll go to the store and see someone in person it might be different, but 
over the phone that’s been the attitude. I’ll report back what they do.

-D




> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
> and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying 
> much. That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what 
> deal they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong 
> arm them if you say you are going to another service. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
>> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
>> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
>> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month 
>> compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me 
>> about $50/month.
>> 
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> 
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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My cousin went through that recently with Directv. She had some issues before 
and they lowered her bill and got an $80 credit so she hasn’t been paying much. 
That’s all running out. She was gonna cancel it altogether but see what deal 
they pitched her to keep her as a customer. You might be able to strong arm 
them if you say you are going to another service. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared 
> to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about 
> $50/month.
> 
> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
> and handing them their boxes back.
> 
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[MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.

I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.

-D
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