Re: [MBZ] DOT REGS

2015-06-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:06:50 -0400 Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> this reg is new to me
>
> It is possible that occasionally you may not use a truck
>   in commerce at all. You may be moving your personal
>   belongings to a new house or, as a hobby, you may be taking
>   your horses to a horse show. As long as the activity is not
>   in support of a business, the Federal hours-of-service
>   regulations do not apply to you.

The latest version of the document I quoted is at
www.fmcsa.dot.gov/ sites/ fmcsa.dot.gov/ files/ docs/
Interstate-Truck-Driver-Guide-to-HOS_508.pdf


I found the citation in 49 CFR Part 395 earlier today, but I cannot seem
to find it now.


> I'd hate to try to convince the DOT guy that i was using my commercial
> truck recreationally …
> 
> The DOT guy is going to say you are commercial.
> 
>  i've done lots of jobs where i was moving people's personal effects
> which could even include a printing press.

But the paragraph above says, "moving YOUR PERSONAL belongings ..."


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] DOT REGS

2015-06-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Pointing out the law to the ges tapo is a good 
way to make it worse.  When they start 
"interpreting" stuff into the "law" that isn't 
there, the only thing that works is "yes Sir. 
How much is the fine? Where do I pay" Arguing 
with them is futile and only will make things 
even worse for you.


Their position is "if it looks like a truck, it 
is commercial."  THey really don't car if you are 
hauling your own clothing or your antique car. 
They can and will say that is commercial.



Folks,

this reg is new to me

It is possible that occasionally you may not use a truck
  in commerce at all. You may be moving your personal
  belongings to a new house or, as a hobby, you may be taking
  your horses to a horse show. As long as the activity is not
  in support of a business, the Federal hours-of-service
  regulations do not apply to you.


HOWEVER in the same section they discuss driving 
an empty truck and the fact that even if you are 
not hauling you are still commercial


I'd hate to try to convince the DOT guy that i 
was using my commercial truck recreationally Š


The DOT guy is going to say you are commercial.

 i've done lots of jobs where i was moving 
people's personal effects which could even 
include a printing press.




thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins


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[MBZ] DOT REGS

2015-06-30 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
Folks,

this reg is new to me

It is possible that occasionally you may not use a truck
  in commerce at all. You may be moving your personal
  belongings to a new house or, as a hobby, you may be taking
  your horses to a horse show. As long as the activity is not
  in support of a business, the Federal hours-of-service
  regulations do not apply to you.


HOWEVER in the same section they discuss driving an empty truck and the fact 
that even if you are not hauling you are still commercial

I'd hate to try to convince the DOT guy that i was using my commercial truck 
recreationally …

The DOT guy is going to say you are commercial.

 i've done lots of jobs where i was moving people's personal effects which 
could even include a printing press.



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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