[MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:01:01 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Is the little door on the keyway still functioning properly? It's supposed to keep moisture out. You can also spray the lock with liquid lock oil (NOT WD-40). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
So what you're saying is that water is TRAPPED inside the lock and cannot escape even after 5 straight rain-free? If the little door covering the key hole is missing, would that allow moisture to penetrate? If I swapped handles and the problem persisted what would that tell me? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
That's about as low tech a solution as it gets. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
I have had good luck with 100% silicone spray. Spray the key and work it in the lock. There may be better stuff but this is what I had handy, and has given me lasting results. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Yes, in a sense. Even a small amount of moisture in the right place in the lock cylinder can freeze and prevent it from moving. Yes. That the passenger door lock has moisture in it as well. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So what you're saying is that water is TRAPPED inside the lock and cannot escape even after 5 straight rain-free? If the little door covering the key hole is missing, would that allow moisture to penetrate? If I swapped handles and the problem persisted what would that tell me? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Tri-flow The other stuff is a boon for locksmiths, as it gums up the works and you end up replacing the locks you put the gunk in. clay On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
A lighter and your key are better than a cup of hot water. On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: I have had good luck with 100% silicone spray. Spray the key and work it in the lock. There may be better stuff but this is what I had handy, and has given me lasting results. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
On 04/12/2014 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. Just Pe* on it. Then you won't have to carry the mug around. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Yes but true. Use an alcohol based de-icer that displaces water, then use lock ease. Obviously the door flap should be dealt with or not. I never bothered, just carry some lock de-icer with me or don't lock door overnight. You shouldn't have theft issues where you are?! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's about as low tech a solution as it gets. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Great idea! Mmmm frozen pee! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 04/12/2014 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. Just Pe* on it. Then you won't have to carry the mug around. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Interesting. Never knew that! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 3:56 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tri-flow The other stuff is a boon for locksmiths, as it gums up the works and you end up replacing the locks you put the gunk in. clay On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:01:01 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? From last spring ... On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:23:33 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The MB lock lubricant is a part number 002 989 06 51 and it runs around $17.00. Everyone I know that has ever used it swears by the stuff. Dan Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Smart ass answer - move south. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? Yes but true. Use an alcohol based de-icer that displaces water, then use lock ease. Obviously the door flap should be dealt with or not. I never bothered, just carry some lock de-icer with me or don't lock door overnight. You shouldn't have theft issues where you are?! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's about as low tech a solution as it gets. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. Lock is frozen. Frozen means water is frozen Did it ever occur to you that adding water to the frozen lock is somewhat analogous to throwing diesel fuel on a fire you are trying to put out? It does not matter that it has been 5 days without rain, you are wetting it each day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Freezes up or gets stuck? I've been in Maryland for a week where its not been below freezing. I'd suggest pulling it out which is actually pretty easy. The door handle is held with 3 screws one of which is inside the door and requires pulling the inner panel. You'll need to be able to turn the key to get the attachment from the lock to the latch out so don't wait until its stuck full time. Getting the lock cylinder out requires pushing out a roll pin, its pretty easy. Then pull the cylinder, do it inside a plastic bag, the lock wafer springs might *sproing* when you pull it apart. Carefully push out each wafer with a small screwdriver, theres a spring under there, be careful. Wash each wafer down with carb cleaner, do the same for the spring. KEEP THEM IN ORDER. Then wash down the lock cylinder. Reassemble with some of this: http://www2.dupont.com/Consumer_Lubricants/en_US/products/lock_lubricant.html which is the best lock lube I've ever used. Done yearly your locks won't freeze even if the little door is missing... BTDT -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 12:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Well, I don't have the problem in the warm months. At least there's something to be grateful for... BTW, HAPPY FESTIVUS EVERYBODY! On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. Lock is frozen. Frozen means water is frozen Did it ever occur to you that adding water to the frozen lock is somewhat analogous to throwing diesel fuel on a fire you are trying to put out? It does not matter that it has been 5 days without rain, you are wetting it each day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
I love 123 door locks because they're easy to warm with a torch. When I was driving Hammie the '83 240D the first time around I used to do that almost every day all winter... Second time I got it the driver's lock was stuck, I took it apart and all the schmutz I'd put in it the first time to keep it working had frozen into a waxy goo. I had to cut the cylinder apart... This whole discussion reminds me I need to take the trunk lock on the Jetta apart... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
The lock is NOT stuck and works perfectly above 32 degrees. I will check on the keyhole flap issue and see if the PS door handle works below freezing. If so, the easiest solution is to swap door handles. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I love 123 door locks because they're easy to warm with a torch. When I was driving Hammie the '83 240D the first time around I used to do that almost every day all winter... Second time I got it the driver's lock was stuck, I took it apart and all the schmutz I'd put in it the first time to keep it working had frozen into a waxy goo. I had to cut the cylinder apart... This whole discussion reminds me I need to take the trunk lock on the Jetta apart... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Which removes your backup... If you've got to move it anyway clean it and fix it while you've got it out, it'll only take another 15 minutes. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? The lock is NOT stuck and works perfectly above 32 degrees. I will check on the keyhole flap issue and see if the PS door handle works below freezing. If so, the easiest solution is to swap door handles. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I love 123 door locks because they're easy to warm with a torch. When I was driving Hammie the '83 240D the first time around I used to do that almost every day all winter... Second time I got it the driver's lock was stuck, I took it apart and all the schmutz I'd put in it the first time to keep it working had frozen into a waxy goo. I had to cut the cylinder apart... This whole discussion reminds me I need to take the trunk lock on the Jetta apart... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*? And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
or unlock the car from the passenger door or the rear hatch. The lock is NOT stuck and works perfectly above 32 degrees. I will check on the keyhole flap issue and see if the PS door handle works below freezing. If so, the easiest solution is to swap door handles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? 1) Clean it out, and use correct water-repellant lube. 2) Make sure it has a viable keyhole flap. 3) Make sure the thin plastic rain hat inside the door over the lock is still there. I've found the shards in a lot of doors I've opened. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
