[MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed the 
water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with it. It 
was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. Is this 
recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? I'm using a 
new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
What do you all think?

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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Did we discuss the fan clutch?

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer.
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket?
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?

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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Doesn't fit the symptoms and 240Ds don't have them, the fan spins full power 
all the time...
-Curt
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 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:43 PM
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Did we discuss the fan clutch?

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer.
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket?
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?

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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think you are only supposed to use the paper gasket.  But I always put 
a little Permatex on it anyway, which makes it a bit more of a bother to 
clean off next time, but that is in the future...


--R


On 12/15/14 11:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:

Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed the 
water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with it. It 
was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. Is this 
recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? I'm using a 
new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
What do you all think?

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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again
if it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my
Dad used.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer.
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket?
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?

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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Ever since I have geyser out of the thermostat housing on my Farmall Super M 
(which reminds me the thermostat has failed in that tractor and needs redoing) 
I've used something. Lately I like Hylomar although I'm not sure its 
recommended for water pumps. It worked out sweet on the case halves of a 
snowmobile engine I did crank seals on last year.
-Curt
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 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
   
I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again
if it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my
Dad used.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer.
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket?
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I went without the sealer, just my homemade gasket. No leaks.

I also replaced the thermostat with an OE Mercedes part from the classic 
center. No overheating yet but I haven't tried the car on the highway. Prior to 
this it overheated while idling. 
This car's behavior is inconsistent so I won't hold my breath!!
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 On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again if 
 it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my Dad 
 used.
 
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed 
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with 
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. 
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? 
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?
 
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 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That was the super frustrating thing. The last time I fixed it it was good 
for 100 miles...
-Curt
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 To: OK Don okd...@gmail.com 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
   
I went without the sealer, just my homemade gasket. No leaks.

I also replaced the thermostat with an OE Mercedes part from the classic 
center. No overheating yet but I haven't tried the car on the highway. Prior to 
this it overheated while idling. 
This car's behavior is inconsistent so I won't hold my breath!!
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 On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again if 
 it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my Dad 
 used.
 
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed 
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with 
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. 
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? 
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?
 
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 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?

2014-12-15 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Maybe having the car sit for a few weeks after is overheating episodes fixes it 
for a while? Not sure why. Perhaps a head issue that seals itself shut after 
sitting? If it overheats again, I will do leakdown test. 

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 On Dec 15, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That was the super frustrating thing. The last time I fixed it it was good 
 for 100 miles...
 -Curt
  From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: OK Don okd...@gmail.com 
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
 
 I went without the sealer, just my homemade gasket. No leaks.
 
 I also replaced the thermostat with an OE Mercedes part from the classic 
 center. No overheating yet but I haven't tried the car on the highway. Prior 
 to this it overheated while idling. 
 This car's behavior is inconsistent so I won't hold my breath!!
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again 
 if it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my 
 Dad used.
 
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed 
 the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with 
 it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. 
 Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? 
 I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock.
 What do you all think?
 
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