Re: [MBZ] Grrrrr!
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:16:07 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Mitch wrote: > > > A pair of them would capture the clown who backs into my front > > or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy who deliberately > > slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep dent. > > Maybe not while it happens - but it would be pretty hard to drive > in or out without getting in camera view. >From the damage in the picture, I presume the car rocked when it was hit. That would be visible on video as a rocking of the background. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On August 30, 2018 at 4:20 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On 30/08/2018 12:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > "features to deter potential miscreants". > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqB6uM2hRpo Boy, somebody spammed the heck out of that video. Here's the original from the owner of the vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidAXgq9dWc I think this has better potential anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLhWzMOccTg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 30/08/2018 12:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: "features to deter potential miscreants". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqB6uM2hRpo RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Mitch wrote: > A pair of them would capture the clown who backs into my front > or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy who deliberately > slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep dent. Maybe not while it happens - but it would be pretty hard to drive in or out without getting in camera view. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"Trespassers will be severely mauled, played with, partially eaten, and presented as a present to the owner." With a picture of your Guard Cat... On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "features to deter potential miscreants". > > How about a sign that says "The owner of this property is armed and > prepared to defend with deadly force" and a big picture of your cat. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Would appreciate it if someone could post a link to an appropriate > dashcam > > that has the requisite features to deter potential miscreants. > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams > > of > > > them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot > in > > > the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is > > > interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does > > > when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun > > going > > > behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture > > the > > > clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the > guy > > > who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch > deep > > > dent. > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"features to deter potential miscreants". How about a sign that says "The owner of this property is armed and prepared to defend with deadly force" and a big picture of your cat. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Would appreciate it if someone could post a link to an appropriate dashcam > that has the requisite features to deter potential miscreants. > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams > of > > them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot in > > the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is > > interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does > > when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun > going > > behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture > the > > clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy > > who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep > > dent. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps=anker+dash+cam On 8/30/18 12:30 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote: look at the Anker dashcams on Amazon, they go on special occasionally but even so they are not that much --R On 8/30/18 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Would appreciate it if someone could post a link to an appropriate dashcam that has the requisite features to deter potential miscreants. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams of them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot in the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun going behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture the clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep dent. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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look at the Anker dashcams on Amazon, they go on special occasionally but even so they are not that much --R On 8/30/18 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Would appreciate it if someone could post a link to an appropriate dashcam that has the requisite features to deter potential miscreants. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams of them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot in the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun going behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture the clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep dent. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Would appreciate it if someone could post a link to an appropriate dashcam that has the requisite features to deter potential miscreants. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams of > them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot in > the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is > interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does > when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun going > behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture the > clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy > who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep > dent. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have four unused Android phones, often thought about making dash cams of them, but when running camera software (like Open Camera) they run hot in the house, would probably overheat and shut down in a parked car. It is interesting to set them for motion activation and see what the dog does when I'm not home. Also end up with lots of videos started by the sun going behind a cloud and other useless 'motion'. A pair of them would capture the clown who backs into my front or rear bumper, but wouldn't catch the guy who deliberately slams his pickup door into mine and leaves an inch deep dent. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The cost of such a system might exceed the cost of repair of the bumper, although I would take great satisfaction in getting the miscreant to pay for repairs. I've got a spare front bumper waiting to be installed on my cabriolet, so I can scavenge the impact strip from the old bumper that is coming off that car. Then I will need to repaint a white impact strip to a dark blue, this is a good excuse to try the "$50 roller paint job" method. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:07 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > After close inspection of your picture, I do not see a dash camera mounted > in the window. > Get one, wire in a manual switch, so you can turn it on when you park the > car and leave it unattended You would be glad to have a clear video of > the car and driver that hit you, then drove away the cops would be > impressed when they watch it also... Send them back to the station house > with a thumb drive of the "live incident" > > Priceless... [look for a camera that records in 1080, which will play > directly on a large screen TV, handy later in court.. ] > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent > > sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore > off > > the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > > > > White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the > > turn signal light. > > > > Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 > > uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > > > > -- > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > '87 300TD > > '95 E300 > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The one I have in the front window has 1080, and a 120 degree field of view, which covers both front side windows and forward.. Impact sensor trigger won't get you the whole story. you want to record the other vehicle that recklessly backs or drives into you, real time... much more powerful if you are lucky, if it takes pics of the driver and occupants, for later ID. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have one I bought on some special, an Anker of some kind, you can set > motion detection on it while the car is parked and it will record when it > sees something moving. It has 3 sensitivities to adjust how it triggers. > It’s a pretty nice unit, has WiFi and an app to download vid right to your > phone. You’d have to have one aimed in the right direction but it has a > pretty wide field of view. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > > > On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:07 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > After close inspection of your picture, I do not see a dash camera > mounted > > in the window. > > Get one, wire in a manual switch, so you can turn it on when you park the > > car and leave it unattended You would be glad to have a clear video > of > > the car and driver that hit you, then drove away the cops would be > > impressed when they watch it also... Send them back to the station house > > with a thumb drive of the "live incident" > > > > Priceless... [look for a camera that records in 1080, which will play > > directly on a large screen TV, handy later in court.. ] > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent > >> sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore > off > >> the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > >> > >> White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the > >> turn signal light. > >> > >> Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 > >> uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > >> > >> -- > >> Max Dillon > >> Charleston SC > >> '87 300TD > >> '95 E300 > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have one I bought on some special, an Anker of some kind, you can set motion detection on it while the car is parked and it will record when it sees something moving. It has 3 sensitivities to adjust how it triggers. It’s a pretty nice unit, has WiFi and an app to download vid right to your phone. You’d have to have one aimed in the right direction but it has a pretty wide field of view. --R Sent from iPhone > On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:07 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > After close inspection of your picture, I do not see a dash camera mounted > in the window. > Get one, wire in a manual switch, so you can turn it on when you park the > car and leave it unattended You would be glad to have a clear video of > the car and driver that hit you, then drove away the cops would be > impressed when they watch it also... Send them back to the station house > with a thumb drive of the "live incident" > > Priceless... [look for a camera that records in 1080, which will play > directly on a large screen TV, handy later in court.. ] > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent >> sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off >> the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. >> >> White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the >> turn signal light. >> >> Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 >> uJM/view?usp=drivesdk >> >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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After close inspection of your picture, I do not see a dash camera mounted in the window. Get one, wire in a manual switch, so you can turn it on when you park the car and leave it unattended You would be glad to have a clear video of the car and driver that hit you, then drove away the cops would be impressed when they watch it also... Send them back to the station house with a thumb drive of the "live incident" Priceless... [look for a camera that records in 1080, which will play directly on a large screen TV, handy later in court.. ] On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent > sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off > the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > > White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the > turn signal light. > > Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 > uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ha. Ha. Ha. I was toying with selling the car before this happened, but driving it again this a.m. I fell in love all over again. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2018 9:23:48 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > It's a total loss. > >I'll give you $501. > Rick > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I guess our taxes are good for something, had a local police officer in about fifteen minutes. He took a quick look around, no visible securel security cameras, offered to give me the full report to file with my insurance, I declined as I don't carry full collison coverage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2018 9:02:50 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >They won’t show up if it was in a parking lot, at least not hear. I >called them when the dude backed in to me, they refused to show up. > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> Do call the cops. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Aug 29, 2018 8:59 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" > >> wrote: >> >> Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No >bent >> sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, >tore off >> the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. >> >> White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near >the >> turn signal light. >> >> Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 >> uJM/view?usp=drivesdk >> >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of my E300, I think I need to get some photos of the entire car and post them and you all tell me if you think its even worth me replacing the door and getting it painted. I did notice today it did damage the area behind the rear door and the wheel arch. On 8/29/2018 8:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: It's a total loss. I'll give you $501. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Done, made incident report. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2018 9:01:11 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: >Do call the cops. > >Dwight Giles Jr. >Wickford RI > >On Aug 29, 2018 8:59 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" > >wrote: > >Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No >bent >sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore >off >the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > >White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the >turn signal light. > >Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 >uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > >-- >Max Dillon >Charleston SC >'87 300TD >'95 E300 >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's a total loss. I'll give you $501. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They won’t show up if it was in a parking lot, at least not hear. I called them when the dude backed in to me, they refused to show up. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do call the cops. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Aug 29, 2018 8:59 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" > wrote: > > Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent > sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off > the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > > White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the > turn signal light. > > Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 > uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do call the cops. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Aug 29, 2018 8:59 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the turn signal light. Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2 uJM/view?usp=drivesdk -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Crap. It’s not the week for e300’s I guess Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent > sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off > the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. > > White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the turn > signal light. > > Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2uJM/view?usp=drivesdk > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Miscreant hit and ran, damaged the front bumper of my '95 E300. No bent sheet metal I think, just a mangled bumper. Driver's side corner, tore off the impact strip, cracked the bumper cover underneath. White paint on the bumper and slight marking on the body paint near the turn signal light. Left the car parked all day at a glorified local strip mall. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cutUJuRS0rnZDCnsWvMb0StwujWD2uJM/view?usp=drivesdk -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:21:00 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. You combine these results with the battery voltage itself (measured between the posts) under the same conditions. It shouldn't drop too much, if it goes to 10V it's bad. (Or at least not charged.) -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. -Dave Walton On Dec 16, 2007 6:08 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:21:00 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. You combine these results with the battery voltage itself (measured between the posts) under the same conditions. It shouldn't drop too much, if it goes to 10V it's bad. (Or at least not charged.) -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. The difficulty there, of course, is that you're not going to have equipment that can reliably measure resistances that low. I use a clamp-on DC ammeter for that. Another (cheaper) option is to acquire a shunt resistor and put it in series with the battery. Then measure voltage across that. They're a precise high-current wire with a known low resistance expressly made for measuring high currents with a voltmeter. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Cathey wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. I figure if the starter cables are of proper factory size and they get hot, you're drawing serious AMPS, and need to look to the power consumer, not the power source, for your trouble. Seized starter, as mentioned by others, would be my first guess. (2nd guess would be an electrical short inside the starter) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kinda a catch-22. If you spend the money for a decent clamp-on DC ammeter, you have acquired a device that is adequate to measure low ohms. Still, I like DC clamp-on's, but consumer grade ones are flaky. Adding enough ohms to measure the resistance with a Harbor Freight multimeter causes it' own problems and in practice is a real PITA... You can get close enough with a cheap multimeter to diagnose basic problems - maybe +- 5 amps. -Dave Walton On Dec 16, 2007 11:21 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. The difficulty there, of course, is that you're not going to have equipment that can reliably measure resistances that low. I use a clamp-on DC ammeter for that. Another (cheaper) option is to acquire a shunt resistor and put it in series with the battery. Then measure voltage across that. They're a precise high-current wire with a known low resistance expressly made for measuring high currents with a voltmeter. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Could this be tied to the situation yesterday with the wipers going slower and slower? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A couple weeks ago when the battery went bad the dome light would go totally out. Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. You guys have got me paranoid, I'm going to go put the battery charger on... After my 1 hour drive home last night I tried to restart and nothing had changed... -Curt Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:07:16 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GR! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The lights come on and look normal I always open the door and then hit the key while watching the dome light. If it goes out, it's either the battery or the wiring there to. -- Jim - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. You combine these results with the battery voltage itself (measured between the posts) under the same conditions. It shouldn't drop too much, if it goes to 10V it's bad. (Or at least not charged.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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motor locked up? Curt Raymond wrote: '85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the solenoid clicks and nothing happens. I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B. The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack didn't change the symptoms at all. I can tell you that 3 of us pushing it in the snowy flat driveway can't go fast enough to start it... The security guys at work have a Jeep Liberty and say they'd give me a tug if I had a strap. I own two straps, they're safely home in my garage. I called a friend who is going to Wal-Mart for me... Anyway I'd wack the starter with a hammer (I've had that work on American cars before) if I knew where it was... Pray tell where is the starter on this beastie? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe but I doubt it. In that case ice had built up under the counterweight. In the morning I removed that ice and all was well. I put the charger on for about an hour this afternoon, the 4amp setting produced less than 2 amps on the meter. I don't think the battery was discharged significantly. When I tried it in the (relative) warmth of the day the starter turned but sounded HORRIBLE. All grinding and nasty. I think maybe its lost a bearing. Anyway its good to know it'd probably start if I wanted it to. I'll park on the hill at work on Monday since theres no way I'll be able to get in to the Indy until Tuesday at the earliest. That'll also allow me to get the starter from Rusty... -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:35:40 -0800 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GR! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Could this be tied to the situation yesterday with the wipers going slower and slower? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A solenoid click followed by dimming lights and warm or hot battery cables is a locked up starter motor, the typical failure mode on these engines. I've replaced two so far (different cars) -- they crank slow for a day or two, then lock up solid. There is no alternative to replacement. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the solenoid clicks and nothing happens. I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B. The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack didn't change the symptoms at all. I can tell you that 3 of us pushing it in the snowy flat driveway can't go fast enough to start it... The security guys at work have a Jeep Liberty and say they'd give me a tug if I had a strap. I own two straps, they're safely home in my garage. I called a friend who is going to Wal-Mart for me... Anyway I'd wack the starter with a hammer (I've had that work on American cars before) if I knew where it was... Pray tell where is the starter on this beastie? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You're really going to enjoy getting to the starter on that thing in the snow. Don't recall mine having neutral safety, so it's probably just a low battery. Battery being less than a month old doesn't mean anything anymore, unfortunately. Check the cables, make sure they're good and tight, and that you have a good ground. There's a lot less juice required to run lights than the glow plugs and the starter capable of spinning a 20:1 engine. On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:29:57PM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote: '85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the solenoid clicks and nothing happens. I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B. The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack didn't change the symptoms at all. I can tell you that 3 of us pushing it in the snowy flat driveway can't go fast enough to start it... The security guys at work have a Jeep Liberty and say they'd give me a tug if I had a strap. I own two straps, they're safely home in my garage. I called a friend who is going to Wal-Mart for me... Anyway I'd wack the starter with a hammer (I've had that work on American cars before) if I knew where it was... Pray tell where is the starter on this beastie? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Drivers' side, and you won't be able to whack it, it's buried up there. Most likely it's seized, typical failure on those diesel starters, they lock up solid. Changing it is horrible -- supposedly you can get the old one out and the new one in, but on the one I worked on the old one fell out on me when I got the solenoid wire loose (no way to reach it on the gasser from above, diesel may be better) and I didn't see how it came through. Never did get it back in without taking an engine mount out, which I recommend. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt, et al. On an '85 190D it isn't too hard to get the starter out, or check the connections. Apart from the lower bolt the rest is accessible from the drivers side top, after removing the air filter box complete. A 190E is (was) a lot more difficult as the cruise actuator is in front of the starter and it is under the fuel injection stuff on the hard to remove manifold. Not fun in the cold, but most is doable from under the hood. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent At 06:29 PM 12/14/2007, you wrote: '85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the solenoid clicks and nothing happens. I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B. The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack didn't change the symptoms at all. I can tell you that 3 of us pushing it in the snowy flat driveway can't go fast enough to start it... The security guys at work have a Jeep Liberty and say they'd give me a tug if I had a strap. I own two straps, they're safely home in my garage. I called a friend who is going to Wal-Mart for me... Anyway I'd wack the starter with a hammer (I've had that work on American cars before) if I knew where it was... Pray tell where is the starter on this beastie? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The lights come on and look normal I always open the door and then hit the key while watching the dome light. If it goes out, it's either the battery or the wiring there to. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt-on my 240D-I had to whack the starter-on it, it's passenger side down low half way back. Got it stuck it in the parking garage at work-no wrecker could really tow it out. Magic hammer worked. God luck. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:30 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] GR! '85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the solenoid clicks and nothing happens. I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B. The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack didn't change the symptoms at all. I can tell you that 3 of us pushing it in the snowy flat driveway can't go fast enough to start it... The security guys at work have a Jeep Liberty and say they'd give me a tug if I had a strap. I own two straps, they're safely home in my garage. I called a friend who is going to Wal-Mart for me... Anyway I'd wack the starter with a hammer (I've had that work on American cars before) if I knew where it was... Pray tell where is the starter on this beastie? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
