Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have no idea what they were running in it but that is possible. 

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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 6:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If it had green anti-freeze, then the radiator is bad, in my experience. I
> had to replace *every* MB radiator  that came with green coolant,
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The head was pulled off because the PO evidently broke off a glow plug,
>> but yes the radiator is suspect. Will have to investigate further.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well the bottom hose is not supposed to get hot, the radiator is
>> supposed
>>> to cool off the coolant, so maybe it will be warmish.  Really hot or
>> stays
>>> cold would be problems.
>>> 
>>> Used radiator from a car that had the head off, hmmm, maybe a bad
>> radiator
>>> blew the headgasket or cracked the head on that car?  Yeah, be suspicious
>>> of that radiator.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets
 warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water
 flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in
 the reservoir.
 
> On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the
 radiator, then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then
 water pump.
> 
> Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> 
>> No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The
>> thermostat
 was replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked
>> lower
 hose. I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
If it had green anti-freeze, then the radiator is bad, in my experience. I
had to replace *every* MB radiator  that came with green coolant,

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The head was pulled off because the PO evidently broke off a glow plug,
> but yes the radiator is suspect. Will have to investigate further.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well the bottom hose is not supposed to get hot, the radiator is
> supposed
> > to cool off the coolant, so maybe it will be warmish.  Really hot or
> stays
> > cold would be problems.
> >
> > Used radiator from a car that had the head off, hmmm, maybe a bad
> radiator
> > blew the headgasket or cracked the head on that car?  Yeah, be suspicious
> > of that radiator.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets
> >> warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water
> >> flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in
> >> the reservoir.
> >>
> >>> On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the
> >> radiator, then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then
> >> water pump.
> >>>
> >>> Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >>>
>  No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The
> thermostat
> >> was replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked
> lower
> >> hose. I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The head was pulled off because the PO evidently broke off a glow plug, but yes 
the radiator is suspect. Will have to investigate further. 

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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well the bottom hose is not supposed to get hot, the radiator is supposed
> to cool off the coolant, so maybe it will be warmish.  Really hot or stays
> cold would be problems.
> 
> Used radiator from a car that had the head off, hmmm, maybe a bad radiator
> blew the headgasket or cracked the head on that car?  Yeah, be suspicious
> of that radiator.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets
>> warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water
>> flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in
>> the reservoir.
>> 
>>> On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the
>> radiator, then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then
>> water pump.
>>> 
>>> Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>>> 
 No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat
>> was replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower
>> hose. I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well the bottom hose is not supposed to get hot, the radiator is supposed
to cool off the coolant, so maybe it will be warmish.  Really hot or stays
cold would be problems.

Used radiator from a car that had the head off, hmmm, maybe a bad radiator
blew the headgasket or cracked the head on that car?  Yeah, be suspicious
of that radiator.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets
> warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water
> flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in
> the reservoir.
>
> On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the
> radiator, then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then
> water pump.
> >
> > Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat
> was replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower
> hose. I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets 
warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water 
flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in 
the reservoir.


On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the radiator, 
then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then water pump.

Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :


No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat was 
replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower hose. I 
assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?

Sent from my iPhone


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Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the radiator, 
then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then water pump.

Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat was 
> replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower hose. 
> I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat was 
replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower hose. I 
assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?

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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:24 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two questions:
> 1. Did you turn the cabin heat on before you started filling the system?
> 2. Did you try running it with a new thermostat?
> Gerry...late comer to discussion.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at 
>> the mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it 
>> idle with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while 
>> and never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved 
>> it up and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for 
>> a drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the 
>> highway a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. 
>> Suddenly temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off 
>> an turned heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac 
>> back on and drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back 
>> up. Crap. Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. 
>> This is unbelievable. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, never really had any issues before.
>>> 
 On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
 always seemed to help me 
 
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Nope
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
>> YMMV
>> Fred.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
> the
>>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
> fluid
>>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
> upper
>>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
> the
>>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
> radiator.
>>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
> like
>>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
> squishy
>>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
> mess
>>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
> stuck
>>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
 I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
> pull
>>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
> then
>>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
> then
>>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
> is
>>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
> was
>>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
> and it
>>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Two questions:
1. Did you turn the cabin heat on before you started filling the system?
2. Did you try running it with a new thermostat?
Gerry...late comer to discussion.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at the 
> mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it idle 
> with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while and 
> never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved it up 
> and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for a 
> drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the highway 
> a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. Suddenly 
> temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off an turned 
> heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac back on and 
> drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back up. Crap. 
> Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. This is 
> unbelievable. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > No, never really had any issues before.
> > 
> >> On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
> >> always seemed to help me 
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Nope
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
>  YMMV
>  Fred.
>  
>  
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
> >>> the
> > hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
> >>> fluid
> > started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
> >>> upper
> > hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
> > like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
> > was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
> > the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
> > Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
> >>> the
> > hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
> >>> radiator.
> > Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
> > run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
> >>> like
> > there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
> >>> squishy
> > with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
> >>> mess
> > with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
> >>> stuck
> > closed or something, or what the deal might be.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> >>> wrote:
> >> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
> > coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
> >>> pull
> > the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
> >>> then
> > reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
> > Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
> >>> then
> > took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
> > climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
> >>> is
> > I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
> > feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
> > little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
> > coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
> > After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
> >>> was
> > dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
> > the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
> > after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
> > flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
> >>> and it
> > still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
> >>> the
> > reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
> > Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
> >>> about
> > 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
> >>> recall
> > it being stiff before while running. Temp 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That’s what she asked 

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>> On 6/7/20 1:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Does the upper hose stay hard overnight?
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> J
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Might be the clutch and/or this radiator. I took the radiator that was in the 
back seat of that 80k mile e300 I picked up from copart that had the head 
removed. I may need to pull it back out and just swap in a new one and clutch. 

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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If the hose got soft, the head and gasket sound fine to me.  You have other 
> problems.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Bad fan clutch for starters.  If you had a cracked head or blown head gasket 
you would probably have oil in the reservoir by now.

Easy to test the visco clutch -- when it's hot, have someone shut the engine 
off while you watch the fan.  If it doesn't stop within a rotation or two, it's 
out of oil.
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
If the hose got soft, the head and gasket sound fine to me.  You have other 
problems.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No. In fact this morning it was under a slight vacuum as in the upper hose was 
somewhat squeezed in. Not completely flat. When I pulled the cap it expanded. 
Within about 20-30 minutes of shitting the car off just now hose is pliable 
again. 

It could have a fan clutch problem as well. Even at high temp clutch did not 
seem engaged and was easy to stop with my hand and a rag. That could be part of 
the issue. Maybe something is plugged up with the radiator I put in. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you're slowly working out the trapped air.
> 
> Does the upper hose stay hard overnight?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jun 7, 2020 12:49:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at 
>> the mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it 
>> idle with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while 
>> and never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved 
>> it up and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for 
>> a drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the 
>> highway a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. 
>> Suddenly temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off 
>> an turned heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac 
>> back on and drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back 
>> up. Crap. Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. 
>> This is unbelievable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, never really had any issues before.
>>> 
 On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
 always seemed to help me 
 
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Nope
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
>> YMMV
>> Fred.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
> the
>>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
> fluid
>>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
> upper
>>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
> the
>>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
> radiator.
>>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
> like
>>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
> squishy
>>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
> mess
>>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
> stuck
>>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
 I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
> pull
>>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
> then
>>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
> then
>>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
> is
>>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
> was
>>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>>> 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I did, it is now. And no oil in coolant, no steam out the tail pipe either. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Also, check the engine oil to see if milky.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jun 7, 2020 12:49:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at 
>> the mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it 
>> idle with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while 
>> and never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved 
>> it up and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for 
>> a drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the 
>> highway a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. 
>> Suddenly temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off 
>> an turned heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac 
>> back on and drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back 
>> up. Crap. Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. 
>> This is unbelievable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, never really had any issues before.
>>> 
 On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
 always seemed to help me 
 
 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Nope
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
>> YMMV
>> Fred.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
> the
>>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
> fluid
>>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
> upper
>>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
> the
>>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
> radiator.
>>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
> like
>>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
> squishy
>>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
> mess
>>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
> stuck
>>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
 I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
> pull
>>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
> then
>>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
> then
>>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
> is
>>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
> was
>>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
> and it
>>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
> the
>>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
> about
>>> 5-10 minutes and temp was 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

IF SO, SEEK MECHANIC TREATMENT IMMEDIATELY

--FT

On 6/7/20 1:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Does the upper hose stay hard overnight?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

J



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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Also, check the engine oil to see if milky.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jun 7, 2020 12:49:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at the 
> mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it idle 
> with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while and 
> never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved it up 
> and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for a 
> drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the highway 
> a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. Suddenly 
> temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off an turned 
> heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac back on and 
> drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back up. Crap. 
> Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. This is 
> unbelievable.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, never really had any issues before.
>> 
>>> On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
>>> always seemed to help me 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Nope
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> YMMV
> Fred.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
 the
>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
 fluid
>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
 upper
>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
 the
>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
 radiator.
>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
 like
>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
 squishy
>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
 mess
>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
 stuck
>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
 wrote:
>>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
 pull
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
 then
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
 then
>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
 is
>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
 was
>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
 and it
>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
 the
>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
 about
>> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
 recall
>> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
 to
>> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
>> between the line above 80 and the next line next to 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds like you're slowly working out the trapped air.

Does the upper hose stay hard overnight?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jun 7, 2020 12:49:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at the 
> mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it idle 
> with some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while and 
> never had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved it up 
> and down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for a 
> drive. On the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the highway 
> a mile down the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. Suddenly 
> temp started shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off an turned 
> heat on high and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac back on and 
> drove normal. Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back up. Crap. 
> Got it home and popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. This is 
> unbelievable.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, never really had any issues before.
>> 
>>> On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
>>> always seemed to help me 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Nope
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> YMMV
> Fred.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
 the
>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
 fluid
>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
 upper
>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
 the
>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
 radiator.
>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
 like
>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
 squishy
>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
 mess
>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
 stuck
>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
 wrote:
>>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
 pull
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
 then
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
 then
>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
 is
>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
 was
>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
 and it
>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
 the
>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
 about
>> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
 recall
>> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
 to
>> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
>> 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It sure doesn’t look good. This morning I checked reservoir and it was at the 
mark, pulled upper hose and had water there. Started it up and let it idle with 
some revs up and down without the cap on. Reached 80 after a while and never 
had any bubbles in the tank. Looked good. Put cap back on, revved it up and 
down some more and seemed fine. Temp holding fine. Took it out for a drive. On 
the road it seemed to be doing fine. When I got out to the highway a mile down 
the road I did a couple of full throttle accelerations. Suddenly temp started 
shooting is getting close to the red. I turned AC off an turned heat on high 
and temp dropped back down. After it did I turned ac back on and drove normal. 
Didn’t take long before temp started creeping back up. Crap. Got it home and 
popped the hood. Upper hose is rock hard. Damn it. This is unbelievable. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, never really had any issues before.
> 
>> On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
>> always seemed to help me 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
 YMMV
 Fred.
 
 
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
>>> the
> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
>>> fluid
> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
>>> upper
> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
>>> the
> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
>>> radiator.
> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
>>> like
> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
>>> squishy
> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
>>> mess
> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
>>> stuck
> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>>> wrote:
>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
>>> pull
> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
>>> then
> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
>>> then
> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
>>> is
> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
>>> was
> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
>>> and it
> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
>>> the
> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
>>> about
> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
>>> recall
> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
>>> to
> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for
>>> me.
> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it
>>> was
> 

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Uh oh, that’s a bad omen. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You can’t blow the head gasket on an OM606 on 6/06!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 875 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der 
> DoodleWagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard with a low mileage engine, still no news
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, never really had any issues before.
>> 
 On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
>>> always seemed to help me 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Nope
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> YMMV
> Fred.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
 the
>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
 fluid
>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
 upper
>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
 the
>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
 radiator.
>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
 like
>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
 squishy
>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
 mess
>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
 stuck
>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
 wrote:
>>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
 pull
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
 then
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
 then
>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
 is
>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
 was
>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
 and it
>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
 the
>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
 about
>> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
 recall
>> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
 to
>> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
>> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for
 me.
>> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
>>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
>> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it
 was
>> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge.
 Quite
>> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
>>> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
>> cylinder and master.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
You can’t blow the head gasket on an OM606 on 6/06!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 875 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der 
DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard with a low mileage engine, still no news

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, never really had any issues before.
> 
>> On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
>> always seemed to help me 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
 YMMV
 Fred.
 
 
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
>>> the
> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
>>> fluid
> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
>>> upper
> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
>>> the
> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
>>> radiator.
> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
>>> like
> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
>>> squishy
> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
>>> mess
> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
>>> stuck
> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>>> wrote:
>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
>>> pull
> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
>>> then
> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
>>> then
> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
>>> is
> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
>>> was
> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
>>> and it
> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
>>> the
> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
>>> about
> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
>>> recall
> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
>>> to
> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for
>>> me.
> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it
>>> was
> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge.
>>> Quite
> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
>> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
> cylinder and master.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

No, never really had any issues before.

On 6/6/2020 3:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
always seemed to help me 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nope

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
YMMV
Fred.



On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on

the

hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and

fluid

started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then

upper

hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru

the

hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on

radiator.

Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel

like

there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel

squishy

with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will

mess

with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat

stuck

closed or something, or what the deal might be.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 

wrote:

I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with

coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I

pull

the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill

then

reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I

then

took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure

is

I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it

was

dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again

and it

still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in

the

reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for

about

5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t

recall

it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood

to

take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for

me.

Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.

I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it

does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it

was

running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge.

Quite

disappointing and all my fault if really blown.

Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave

cylinder and master.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Did you raise the front of the car before starting the filling process? It
always seemed to help me 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nope
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> > YMMV
> > Fred.
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on
> the
> >> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and
> fluid
> >> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then
> upper
> >> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
> >> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
> >> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
> >> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
> >> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru
> the
> >> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on
> radiator.
> >> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
> >> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel
> like
> >> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel
> squishy
> >> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will
> mess
> >> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat
> stuck
> >> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
> >> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I
> pull
> >> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill
> then
> >> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
> >> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I
> then
> >> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
> >> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure
> is
> >> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
> >> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
> >> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
> >> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
> >> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it
> was
> >> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
> >> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
> >> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
> >> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again
> and it
> >> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in
> the
> >> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
> >> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for
> about
> >> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t
> recall
> >> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood
> to
> >> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
> >> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for
> me.
> >> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
> >> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it
> was
> >> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge.
> Quite
> >> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
> >>>
> >>> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
> >> cylinder and master.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nope 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> YMMV
> Fred.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on the
>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and fluid
>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then upper
>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru the
>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on radiator.
>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel like
>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel squishy
>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will mess
>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat stuck
>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then
>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is
>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was
>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again and it
>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in the
>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for about
>> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall
>> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood to
>> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
>> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for me.
>> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
>>> 
>>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
>> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was
>> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite
>> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
>>> 
>>> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
>> cylinder and master.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Frederick Moir 
3:21 PM (0 minutes ago)
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Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
YMMV
Fred.

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:21 PM Frederick Moir  wrote:

> Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
> YMMV
> Fred.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on the
>> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and fluid
>> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then upper
>> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
>> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
>> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
>> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
>> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru the
>> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on radiator.
>> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
>> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel like
>> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel squishy
>> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will mess
>> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat stuck
>> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> >
>> > I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
>> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then
>> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is
>> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
>> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
>> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
>> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
>> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was
>> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
>> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
>> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
>> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again and it
>> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in the
>> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
>> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for about
>> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall
>> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood to
>> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
>> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for me.
>> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
>> >
>> > I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
>> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was
>> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite
>> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
>> >
>> > Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
>> cylinder and master.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Water pump or belt turning it the wrong way?
YMMV
Fred.


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on the
> hose at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and fluid
> started coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then upper
> hose again and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt
> like there was no water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure
> was off removed the hose and there was no water in it. Started loosening
> the reservoir cap and water started flowing out of the upper hose.
> Tightened it and the flow stopped. I filled a little more water in thru the
> hose, probably less than a cup and it was full, put hose back on radiator.
> Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. Started it back up and let it
> run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard but also did not feel like
> there was any water in it again while running. Normally they feel squishy
> with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I shut it down and will mess
> with it some more in the morning. I wonder if suddenly the thermostat stuck
> closed or something, or what the deal might be.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >
> > I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with
> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull
> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then
> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes.
> Temp rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then
> took it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started
> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is
> I thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not
> feel any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a
> little and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started
> coming out. I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this.
> After releasing enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was
> dry. Filled in a whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off
> the reservoir. Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but
> after a few minutes with the cap left off coolant started rising up and
> flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again and it
> still appears to be dry. I filled in some more water and also filled in the
> reservoir until it was flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator.
> Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it up. I ran it for about
> 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall
> it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood to
> take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about half way
> between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for me.
> Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard.
> >
> > I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it
> does. I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was
> running with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite
> disappointing and all my fault if really blown.
> >
> > Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave
> cylinder and master.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yea. I filled in a gallon of G05 which usually will reach the top of the 
reservoir then I put in a gallon of distilled water which it will usually take 
nearly a gallon before it starts flowing back out the top hose from the engine 
indicating it is full. So about 2 gallon of fluid went in after the radiator 
swap initially, probably a little less than 2 gallons. Capacity is about 2.5 
gallons so I would suspect there would still be about half a gallon in the 
engine and heater core that would not have drained when the radiator was 
removed. 

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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you pay attention to the amount of water/coolant you put into it before 
> you ran it?
> 
> I always do.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with 
>> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull 
>> the upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then 
>> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes. Temp 
>> rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then took 
>> it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started 
>> climbing. I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is I 
>> thought I got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not feel 
>> any water in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a little 
>> and it had quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started coming out. 
>> I ran it for a few minutes on high heat before doing this. After releasing 
>> enough pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was dry. Filled in a 
>> whole gallon of distilled water in there and topped off the reservoir. 
>> Started it back up and it did not start getting hot but after a few minutes 
>> with the cap left off coolant started rising up and flowing out of the tank. 
>> Shut it back off, pull the upper hose again and it still appears to be dry. 
>> I filled in some more water and also filled in the reservoir until it was 
>> flowing out of the top outlet of the radiator. Reconnected hose and put cap 
>> back on then started it up. I ran it for about 5-10 minutes and temp was 
>> fine, but upper hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall it being stiff before 
>> while running. Temp was still good so I shut hood to take it out. Got back 
>> in the car and temp was now up to about half way between the line above 80 
>> and the next line next to red. Too warm for me. Shut it down. Upper hose is 
>> rock hard. 
>> 
>> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it does. 
>> I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was running 
>> with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite 
>> disappointing and all my fault if really blown. 
>> 
>> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave cylinder 
>> and master. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
After I sent this I went back to the car and there was no pressure on the hose 
at all after sitting about 10 minutes. I slowly loosened cap and fluid started 
coming out again. I quickly tightened it. I then loosed then upper hose again 
and slowing let the pressure off. No water came out and felt like there was no 
water at all in the upper hose. After all the pressure was off removed the hose 
and there was no water in it. Started loosening the reservoir cap and water 
started flowing out of the upper hose. Tightened it and the flow stopped. I 
filled a little more water in thru the hose, probably less than a cup and it 
was full, put hose back on radiator. Pulled cap level was fine in the radiator. 
Started it back up and let it run for a couple of minutes. Hose was not hard 
but also did not feel like there was any water in it again while running. 
Normally they feel squishy with water in the hose but it just felt empty. I 
shut it down and will mess with it some more in the morning. I wonder if 
suddenly the thermostat stuck closed or something, or what the deal might be. 

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> On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with 
> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull the 
> upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then 
> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes. Temp 
> rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then took 
> it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started climbing. 
> I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is I thought I 
> got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not feel any water 
> in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a little and it had 
> quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started coming out. I ran it 
> for a few minutes on high heat before doing this. After releasing enough 
> pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was dry. Filled in a whole 
> gallon of distilled water in there and topped off the reservoir. Started it 
> back up and it did not start getting hot but after a few minutes with the cap 
> left off coolant started rising up and flowing out of the tank. Shut it back 
> off, pull the upper hose again and it still appears to be dry. I filled in 
> some more water and also filled in the reservoir until it was flowing out of 
> the top outlet of the radiator. Reconnected hose and put cap back on then 
> started it up. I ran it for about 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper 
> hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall it being stiff before while running. Temp 
> was still good so I shut hood to take it out. Got back in the car and temp 
> was now up to about half way between the line above 80 and the next line next 
> to red. Too warm for me. Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard. 
> 
> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it does. 
> I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was running 
> with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite 
> disappointing and all my fault if really blown. 
> 
> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave cylinder 
> and master. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Did you pay attention to the amount of water/coolant you put into it before you 
ran it?

I always do.

-D

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with 
> coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull the 
> upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then 
> reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes. Temp 
> rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then took 
> it out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started climbing. 
> I immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is I thought I 
> got it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not feel any water 
> in the hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a little and it had 
> quite a bit of pressure enough to where fluid started coming out. I ran it 
> for a few minutes on high heat before doing this. After releasing enough 
> pressure I pulled the upper hose in again and it was dry. Filled in a whole 
> gallon of distilled water in there and topped off the reservoir. Started it 
> back up and it did not start getting hot but after a few minutes with the cap 
> left off coolant started rising up and flowing out of the tank. Shut it back 
> off, pull the upper hose again and it still appears to be dry. I filled in 
> some more water and also filled in the reservoir until it was flowing out of 
> the top outlet of the radiator. Reconnected hose and put cap back on then 
> started it up. I ran it for about 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper 
> hose seemed stiff. I don’t recall it being stiff before while running. Temp 
> was still good so I shut hood to take it out. Got back in the car and temp 
> was now up to about half way between the line above 80 and the next line next 
> to red. Too warm for me. Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard. 
> 
> I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it does. 
> I guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was running 
> with no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite 
> disappointing and all my fault if really blown. 
> 
> Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave cylinder 
> and master. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

2020-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I swapped out the radiator the other day and today filled it with 
coolant/distilled water. I fill from the reservoir until full then I pull the 
upper hose off the radiator then fill it into the hose until fill then 
reattached. I then started it up and ran it for probably 10-15 minutes. Temp 
rose steady till it hit the normal operating temp on the gauge. I then took it 
out for a test. As soon as I pulled onto the street temp started climbing. I 
immediately pulled back into the shop. Nearest I can figure is I thought I got 
it full from the top hose but must not have. I could not feel any water in the 
hose when squeezing it. I then loosened the cap a little and it had quite a bit 
of pressure enough to where fluid started coming out. I ran it for a few 
minutes on high heat before doing this. After releasing enough pressure I 
pulled the upper hose in again and it was dry. Filled in a whole gallon of 
distilled water in there and topped off the reservoir. Started it back up and 
it did not start getting hot but after a few minutes with the cap left off 
coolant started rising up and flowing out of the tank. Shut it back off, pull 
the upper hose again and it still appears to be dry. I filled in some more 
water and also filled in the reservoir until it was flowing out of the top 
outlet of the radiator. Reconnected hose and put cap back on then started it 
up. I ran it for about 5-10 minutes and temp was fine, but upper hose seemed 
stiff. I don’t recall it being stiff before while running. Temp was still good 
so I shut hood to take it out. Got back in the car and temp was now up to about 
half way between the line above 80 and the next line next to red. Too warm for 
me. Shut it down. Upper hose is rock hard. 

I suspect the worse but will let it set until tomorrow and see what it does. I 
guess I didn’t get the the engine filled the first time so it was running with 
no coolant circulating and didn’t show up on temp gauge. Quite disappointing 
and all my fault if really blown. 

Now I’m going to crawl under the 240d and start pulling the slave cylinder and 
master. 

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