Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
LEDs are diodes (the D in LED) so they only work in one direction. Incandescent bulbs will work either way.The problem is that the bulb holders aren't marked for polarity and you can't really test until you reinstall the cluster since the bulbs are on the rear and the cluster needs to be mostly installed to be plugged in. So you put it in place, see if the bulbs come on, if one or both down you pull the cluster again and flip the lights to the opposite polarity. On a 123 I like to pull the steering wheel, it makes pulling the cluster a breeze. Actually on a 201 I won't pull the cluster without pulling the steering wheel, its wicked tight with the steering wheel in the way. Remember to mark the steering wheel and shaft before you pull it so you can get it back on right and leave the bolt(201) or nut(123) in place until you loosen the steering wheel on the shaft so you don't hit yourself in the face with it. Not that I would have ever done that, nope, not me... -Curt On Monday, January 25, 2021, 2:56:43 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 23/01/2021 9:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > LED bulbs are a great upgrade for a 123. While you've got the dash pod out >line the light pipes with mylar or aluminum foil. Worst thing about the LEDs >is that they only go one way so you might have to pull the dash pod again and >flip 'em around. > > Don't fall for the xenon bulbs, they'll melt the light pipes, BTDT... > -Curt OK, you lost me. What do you mean by "they only go one way so you might have to pull the dash pod again and flop 'em around"? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
> OK, you lost me. What do you mean by "they only go one way so you might have > to pull the dash pod again and flop 'em around"? 1) LEDs are polarized. 2) Incandescent bulbs are not. 3) the car runs on DC. So, you can put a cheap symmetrical incandescent-replacement LED bulb into a socket in a car two ways. Only one of them will work. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
On 23/01/2021 9:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Try it more, if you haven't worn the skin off your fingers you haven't twiddled it enough. If you take the pod out to do LED bulbs and line the light pipes you can bridge across it so you've always got full brightness. I've never seen any need to turn down the brightness on a 123. -Curt On my car, the the shaft on the rheostat is now loose. I assume the winding has disintegrated enough that the whole thing is done for. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
On 23/01/2021 9:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: LED bulbs are a great upgrade for a 123. While you've got the dash pod out line the light pipes with mylar or aluminum foil. Worst thing about the LEDs is that they only go one way so you might have to pull the dash pod again and flip 'em around. Don't fall for the xenon bulbs, they'll melt the light pipes, BTDT... -Curt OK, you lost me. What do you mean by "they only go one way so you might have to pull the dash pod again and flop 'em around"? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
On 23/01/2021 6:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Lighting rheostat is one of the most common failures you’ll ever find on a w123. The wiper on the rheostat sits in one place for decades and the contact corrodes. Give it a twist or two and all is well. Sometimes they will fail so bad they’ll have a dead spot, but that just means you have to turn it down slightly to a spot before the worn spot. -D OR, totally fail like mine. It used to work if I twisted it back and forth some and found a good spot, but now, not at all. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
In a 240D, not too much to worry about with today's speed limits. Petal to the medal unless you seem to be going faster than everybody else. Fuel up every five hours. And pray the oil pressure gauge doesn't drop to zero. Too bad about that Italian tune-up the car didn't get. Didn't Klebbie check the throttle linkage before selling it? OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I think the issue is that he's on the road now, and would like to know how fast he's going and how much fuel he has while driving at night. He can fix it when he gets home, but what does he do tonight? I vote for a red led headlamp. I keep one in the airplane for night flying - as the instrument lights in the 1957 Cessna are rudimentary at best. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Right on, put the pedal down and leave it there. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:50 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: Good news is you don't jave to worry about speeding in a 240D. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 11:59 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I think the issue is that he's on the road now, and would like to know how > fast he's going and how much fuel he has while driving at night. He can fix > it when he gets home, but what does he do tonight? > I vote for a red led headlamp. I keep one in the airplane for night flying > - as the instrument lights in the 1957 Cessna are rudimentary at best. > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Try it more, if you haven't worn the skin off your fingers you haven't > > twiddled it enough. If you take the pod out to do LED bulbs and line the > > light pipes you can bridge across it so you've always got full > brightness. > > I've never seen any need to turn down the brightness on a 123. > > -Curt > > > > On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 8:28:38 PM EST, Don Snook via > Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Already tried the rheostat. Nothing > > > > Donald H. Snook > > FedEx Freight > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > > > > That’s a feature. > > > > > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on > > the rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely > > come on. > > > > > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > > > > > -D > > > > > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. > Not > > dim or dark. Totally black > > >> > > >> Donald H. Snook > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ > > >> > > >> To search list archives > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
They’re not cheap: 000 542 41 25 - around $75.00 at a discount dealer. -D > On Jan 24, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > If you have to ask you probably can't afford it. > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:00 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> How much are they? It’s unbelievable they are available again. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> As mentioned, it's the rheostat. You can wiggle it back and forth >>> carefully for several minutes and you might get lucky and get the lights >> to >>> come on a bit. The real fix is to take it apart and clean the contacts >>> well. If the resistive coil inside has come out of its place in the >>> ceramic body, then there isn't much hope to fit it. >>> >>> Good news is they're available new from Mercedes again. I just bought >> one. >>> >>> Jaime >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:37 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> Jaime Kopchinski >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
If you have to ask you probably can't afford it. On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:00 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > How much are they? It’s unbelievable they are available again. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 24, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > As mentioned, it's the rheostat. You can wiggle it back and forth > > carefully for several minutes and you might get lucky and get the lights > to > > come on a bit. The real fix is to take it apart and clean the contacts > > well. If the resistive coil inside has come out of its place in the > > ceramic body, then there isn't much hope to fit it. > > > > Good news is they're available new from Mercedes again. I just bought > one. > > > > Jaime > > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:37 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not > >> dim or dark. Totally black > >> > >> Donald H. Snook > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
How much are they? It’s unbelievable they are available again. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > As mentioned, it's the rheostat. You can wiggle it back and forth > carefully for several minutes and you might get lucky and get the lights to > come on a bit. The real fix is to take it apart and clean the contacts > well. If the resistive coil inside has come out of its place in the > ceramic body, then there isn't much hope to fit it. > > Good news is they're available new from Mercedes again. I just bought one. > > Jaime > > >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:37 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not >> dim or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
As mentioned, it's the rheostat. You can wiggle it back and forth carefully for several minutes and you might get lucky and get the lights to come on a bit. The real fix is to take it apart and clean the contacts well. If the resistive coil inside has come out of its place in the ceramic body, then there isn't much hope to fit it. Good news is they're available new from Mercedes again. I just bought one. Jaime On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:37 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not > dim or dark. Totally black > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Good news is you don't jave to worry about speeding in a 240D. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 11:59 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I think the issue is that he's on the road now, and would like to know how > fast he's going and how much fuel he has while driving at night. He can fix > it when he gets home, but what does he do tonight? > I vote for a red led headlamp. I keep one in the airplane for night flying > - as the instrument lights in the 1957 Cessna are rudimentary at best. > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Try it more, if you haven't worn the skin off your fingers you haven't > > twiddled it enough. If you take the pod out to do LED bulbs and line the > > light pipes you can bridge across it so you've always got full > brightness. > > I've never seen any need to turn down the brightness on a 123. > > -Curt > > > > On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 8:28:38 PM EST, Don Snook via > Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Already tried the rheostat. Nothing > > > > Donald H. Snook > > FedEx Freight > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > > > > That’s a feature. > > > > > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on > > the rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely > > come on. > > > > > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > > > > > -D > > > > > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. > Not > > dim or dark. Totally black > > >> > > >> Donald H. Snook > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ > > >> > > >> To search list archives > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
I think the issue is that he's on the road now, and would like to know how fast he's going and how much fuel he has while driving at night. He can fix it when he gets home, but what does he do tonight? I vote for a red led headlamp. I keep one in the airplane for night flying - as the instrument lights in the 1957 Cessna are rudimentary at best. On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Try it more, if you haven't worn the skin off your fingers you haven't > twiddled it enough. If you take the pod out to do LED bulbs and line the > light pipes you can bridge across it so you've always got full brightness. > I've never seen any need to turn down the brightness on a 123. > -Curt > > On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 8:28:38 PM EST, Don Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Already tried the rheostat. Nothing > > Donald H. Snook > FedEx Freight > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > > That’s a feature. > > > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on > the rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely > come on. > > > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > > > -D > > > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not > dim or dark. Totally black > >> > >> Donald H. Snook > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ > >> > >> To search list archives > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ > >> > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
I did? I'm sure there's a bunch. I had to run a separate ground on my '83 240D back in the day. When it was bad the turn signals would make the fuel gauge jump... -Curt On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 9:20:51 PM EST, Dwight Giles wrote: IIRC Curt posted a you tube on how to fix ground on 123 instrument clusters Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 9:13 PM Dwight Giles wrote: I have had to jiggle most 123 instrument cluster light knobs. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 7:48 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is > BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Try it more, if you haven't worn the skin off your fingers you haven't twiddled it enough. If you take the pod out to do LED bulbs and line the light pipes you can bridge across it so you've always got full brightness. I've never seen any need to turn down the brightness on a 123. -Curt On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 8:28:38 PM EST, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: Already tried the rheostat. Nothing Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > That’s a feature. > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on the > rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely come on. > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > -D > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim >> or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ >> >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ >> >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
LED bulbs are a great upgrade for a 123. While you've got the dash pod out line the light pipes with mylar or aluminum foil. Worst thing about the LEDs is that they only go one way so you might have to pull the dash pod again and flip 'em around. Don't fall for the xenon bulbs, they'll melt the light pipes, BTDT... -Curt On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 7:57:37 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Lighting rheostat is one of the most common failures you’ll ever find on a w123. The wiper on the rheostat sits in one place for decades and the contact corrodes. Give it a twist or two and all is well. Sometimes they will fail so bad they’ll have a dead spot, but that just means you have to turn it down slightly to a spot before the worn spot. -D > On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be > working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). > > Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the > current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, > so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. > > Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is >> BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
IIRC Curt posted a you tube on how to fix ground on 123 instrument clusters Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 9:13 PM Dwight Giles wrote: > I have had to jiggle most 123 instrument cluster light knobs. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 7:48 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be >> working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). >> >> Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the >> current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, >> so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. >> >> Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: >> >> > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is >> > BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black >> > >> > Donald H. Snook >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have had to jiggle most 123 instrument cluster light knobs. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 7:48 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be > working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). > > Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the > current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, > so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. > > Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > > > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is > > BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Cathey via Mercedes writes: >> Already tried the rheostat. Nothing > > Basically, it's still a bad rheostat. Once I had a blown trace inside the > instrument cluster, on a W201, but even that's fixable with a bit of wire. I mean, it *could* be a fuse, but more than the instrument lights would not be working. Or, potentially, every bulb in the cluster is burned out, but those bulbs tend to last a long time and odds are against that scenario IMO. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Already tried the rheostat. Nothing Basically, it's still a bad rheostat. Once I had a blown trace inside the instrument cluster, on a W201, but even that's fixable with a bit of wire. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Already tried the rheostat. Nothing Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > That’s a feature. > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on the > rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely come on. > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > -D > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim >> or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ >> >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ >> >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Lighting rheostat is one of the most common failures you’ll ever find on a w123. The wiper on the rheostat sits in one place for decades and the contact corrodes. Give it a twist or two and all is well. Sometimes they will fail so bad they’ll have a dead spot, but that just means you have to turn it down slightly to a spot before the worn spot. -D > On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be > working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). > > Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the > current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, > so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. > > Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is >> BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
It’s most likely the reostat or whatever it’s called. How far have you made it? Noting has flown apart yet? I kind of miss that car actually. I do need to get a 240D going for myself to drive. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim > or dark. Totally black > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Most certainly there is a fuse, but I think more things would not be working if that fuse blows (parking/turn indicators, fuel gauge, IIRC). Try twiddling the dimmer knob. Maybe oxidation is interrupting the current flow. The instrument lights are not super bright to begin with, so you'll probably want it at or near max brightness. Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is > BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
That’s a feature. It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on the rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely come on. You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. -D > On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim > or dark. Totally black > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim or dark. Totally black Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
