Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Probably not caused by the lost wire. Had that wire shorted the fuse would probably have blown. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Turner via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 7:13 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Larry Turner > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down? > > Hi Max, > > Just finished testing the fuses - I disconnected the Neg Cable Connector - > Then with the Test Light connected between the Neg Cable and Neg Post - I > found the light stayed Lit the whole time except when I got to #9. I pulled > the > top of the Fuse Holder away from the top of each fuse and there was no > change in the way the light acted except when I got to #9. The Light went out > when I removed the fuse and then when I put the fuse back the light came > back on. I then pulled it again. > > BTW, I remembered that when I R'd the AC Evap. I lost the power wire that > makes the antenna go up/down when the radio is turned on - it disappeared > into the area under/behind the console and after 2 days of searching I gave up > and found another place to get 12v when the key turned on. I ended up tying > into the light in the glove box for power to raise/lower the antenna. Maybe > that wire came in contact with the chassis? > > But the good thing is, I am beginning to understand how to test, how the test > work and what they tell me - Thanks to you, Peter and Craig. I still have a > long > way to go before I can operate by myself, but at least I understand more about > what I'm doing. > > I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the > Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered > what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this > right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on > the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder > could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? > > Oh well, as long as the lights come on when I flip the switch. ;-) > > Anyway. here's the list of associated things on circuit #9: > > Diagnostic Term. # 6 > Hazard Warning Light > Clock > Front Roof Light > Radio > Vanity Mirror Light > Relay Comfort Circuitry Term 86. > > I have no idea what Term 6 and 86 do or where they are located but I doubt > either would have a short. > > I'll start troubleshooting the things on this circuit. > > Comments anyone? > > LarryT > 91 300D > > > > > > On 07/22/2018 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Just a slow day perhaps. > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did > >> everyone sleep in? > >> > >> LarryT > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hi Mitch, I went back and checked my notes to confirm my findings and it was Fuse C that was blown. Fuse #9 is the one that allowed the test light to go out when I pulled the fuses. But I see what you mean about the fuse and the battery killer being separate issues. So I have 2 problems to locate... Is it possible the fuse got weak and popped by itself? Speaking of Fuses - I noticed one of my fuses had a thin strip of solder connecting the ends and saw in the WSM that some (all, ?) fuses would have this design after 12/90 (IIRC). Any idea what the solder was supposed to do on the fuse? And lastly, I noticed some of my fuses have the same rating but the metal strips look different. Normal? Thanks! Now I have something else to think about ;-) LarryT 91 300D On 07/23/2018 10:45 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Whichever circuit has a blown fuse, is not the circuit that's killing batteries. The blown fuse stops the current draw. There's likely a big issue on that circuit, but it's a separate issue from the dead battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Jim, I'll study this for a while and I suspect things will become clearer. Thanks for the simplification! LarryT On 07/23/2018 11:05 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Basic electrical circuitry is actually quite simple. Pretend that an electron wishes to get from the positive side of the battery to the negative side. (They actually go the other way, due to a bad naming guess by the original scientists, but that's irrelevant.) How does it get there? Follow its journey along the map (schematic diagram) from the hotter side (positive) to the notter side (negative) of each circuit element along the way. As it travels through each element designed to extract energy from this motion (lights, motors) some work is performed, and some heat is generated. As it travels through everything else, some heat is generated. (Ideally, not much.) Open switches, or fuses, or wires, stop the journey. More than one moving electron is required for any significant action to take place. For example, your test light probably needs 3 quintillion of them a second to light at full brilliance. You use it by inserting it into a path, or bridging an open path, and seeing if (m)any of the little buggers now have an intact road they can travel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Unfortunately no, when I put it away for "semi-storage" I made sure everything was turned off. I should have disconnected the battery but something came up IIRC. After that it was out of the memory banks.. Larry On 07/23/2018 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Max, Well duh, it sounds so simple when you tell it like that ;-) Actually I should have been able to figure that one by myself. But after so long it was obviously not coming easily. Seems like I used to be much smarter than I am now. Guess my brain is getting older too. I hate to spend the time to do it but I should play a brain improvement game. Maybe I could improve my problem solving abilities... ;-) Larry On 07/23/2018 12:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Hot side of the fuse: If you remove the fuse, one of the two terminals will be "hot" with 12v DC. In order to be hot, usually some switch like the ignition switch needs to be turned on, but some fuses and circuits are not switched and always have power, like the headlights and the courtesy light, sometimes the radio. #9 is probably hot all the time. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Max, Thanks, so you think it may be as simple as swapping out the front/courtesy light assy? Sure, I'm in no hurry - I can drive it with Fuse 9 removed. The Radio doesn't work anyway ;-) Is there anyway to test it? Maybe take the bulbs out, put the fuse back in and see what the test light tells us? 'Course swapping the assemblies would do the same thing let me know how much you want for it please... Think I should replace my Hazard Switch? It's another user on my #9 circuit and I have one in my toolbox Thanks again, Larry On 07/23/2018 12:10 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Larry - I think I have a spare front / courtesy light. Finding that spare in my garage, now that may be another matter If you are in no hurry, and decide you would like it, let me know. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry - I think I have a spare front / courtesy light. Finding that spare in my garage, now that may be another matter If you are in no hurry, and decide you would like it, let me know. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might > be as simple as that... > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> > On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here >> in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hot side of the fuse: If you remove the fuse, one of the two terminals will be "hot" with 12v DC. In order to be hot, usually some switch like the ignition switch needs to be turned on, but some fuses and circuits are not switched and always have power, like the headlights and the courtesy light, sometimes the radio. #9 is probably hot all the time. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of > the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I > remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test > Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when > the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess > both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on > the design? Right? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here > in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Basic electrical circuitry is actually quite simple. Pretend that an electron wishes to get from the positive side of the battery to the negative side. (They actually go the other way, due to a bad naming guess by the original scientists, but that's irrelevant.) How does it get there? Follow its journey along the map (schematic diagram) from the hotter side (positive) to the notter side (negative) of each circuit element along the way. As it travels through each element designed to extract energy from this motion (lights, motors) some work is performed, and some heat is generated. As it travels through everything else, some heat is generated. (Ideally, not much.) Open switches, or fuses, or wires, stop the journey. More than one moving electron is required for any significant action to take place. For example, your test light probably needs 3 quintillion of them a second to light at full brilliance. You use it by inserting it into a path, or bridging an open path, and seeing if (m)any of the little buggers now have an intact road they can travel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Whichever circuit has a blown fuse, is not the circuit that's killing batteries. The blown fuse stops the current draw. There's likely a big issue on that circuit, but it's a separate issue from the dead battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That was my fault - when I reported what happened when checking my fuses I used the wrong thread to reply to - Sorry -- Larry On 07/23/2018 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Oops, not this thread, the short thread. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is the odd thing - Fuse #8 blew but Fuse #9 is the one that turned off the test light as I went through the fuses disconnecting each one. But the fuse blowing could have been a fluke, perhaps? I'll look at the Relay Diagrams and pull the Courtesy Light Relay, then put #9 back in and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestion - Larry On 07/23/2018 8:11 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Terminal 86 is the German label for power supply connection at the relay. I suspect the curtesy light relay, it's the usual failure. Draws a couple amps all the time when dead. Never known it to blow the fuse though. Your lost wire could be pinched in the dash somewhere and grounded, too. That might be a chore to find. You can test the relay by unplugging it -- on the 124's it's under the steering column and fairly easy to get to. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was camping, a Coleman Lantern friend who also owns the Whately Engine Museum, had a gathering. We camped and lit lanterns and watched old engines run. He calls his big engines "Medium sized" but I consider them HUGE. 4' flywheels aren't uncommon... I've got video of him starting a "semi-diesel" which is really a hot bulb diesel. To start it you put a big torch on what looks a like a trailer hitch ball. The "injector" drips fuel onto the shaft the ball is part of inside the cylinder and "vaporizes" which is maybe a generous term, the fuel. That one blows smoke rings when its running... I'll post some pictures and video once I get them ready. -Curt On Sunday, July 22, 2018, 2:47:12 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone sleep in? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Terminal 86 is the German label for power supply connection at the relay. I suspect the curtesy light relay, it's the usual failure. Draws a couple amps all the time when dead. Never known it to blow the fuse though. Your lost wire could be pinched in the dash somewhere and grounded, too. That might be a chore to find. You can test the relay by unplugging it -- on the 124's it's under the steering column and fairly easy to get to. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in > this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Oops, not this thread, the short thread. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I believe Relay Comfort Circuitry is the delay relay for the dome lights staying on after you close the door. I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Max, Just finished testing the fuses - I disconnected the Neg Cable Connector - Then with the Test Light connected between the Neg Cable and Neg Post - I found the light stayed Lit the whole time except when I got to #9. I pulled the top of the Fuse Holder away from the top of each fuse and there was no change in the way the light acted except when I got to #9. The Light went out when I removed the fuse and then when I put the fuse back the light came back on. I then pulled it again. BTW, I remembered that when I R'd the AC Evap. I lost the power wire that makes the antenna go up/down when the radio is turned on - it disappeared into the area under/behind the console and after 2 days of searching I gave up and found another place to get 12v when the key turned on. I ended up tying into the light in the glove box for power to raise/lower the antenna. Maybe that wire came in contact with the chassis? But the good thing is, I am beginning to understand how to test, how the test work and what they tell me - Thanks to you, Peter and Craig. I still have a long way to go before I can operate by myself, but at least I understand more about what I'm doing. I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? Oh well, as long as the lights come on when I flip the switch. ;-) Anyway. here's the list of associated things on circuit #9: Diagnostic Term. # 6 Hazard Warning Light Clock Front Roof Light Radio Vanity Mirror Light Relay Comfort Circuitry Term 86. I have no idea what Term 6 and 86 do or where they are located but I doubt either would have a short. I'll start troubleshooting the things on this circuit. Comments anyone? LarryT 91 300D On 07/22/2018 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Just a slow day perhaps. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone sleep in? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I enjoyed a rainy day yesterday. From 10AM until midnight we received 5" in the gauge. Highly variable - DCA got under 2"/ On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 5:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I mowed the front yard and roadside - it's down to a balmy 97F from the > 111F two days ago :-) > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. > > > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > > > > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did > everyone > > sleep in? > > > > > > LarryT > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I mowed the front yard and roadside - it's down to a balmy 97F from the 111F two days ago :-) On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > > > LarryT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > LarryT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just a slow day perhaps. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > LarryT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wondered ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wondered the same thing - perhaps it's nice weather ??? On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: Wondered ... Craig -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the list down?
Craig. I'm here, your here. Seemingly all on our lonesome. They have probably given us an enhancement to improve our experience. Dark days ahead, I think. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 5/1/2010 9:06 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: Wondered ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the list down?
The list is not down, but it does seem to be on the wane lately. There are only about a dozen folks who post here with any frequency, and as often as not the posts are off topic or quickly become so. Out of curiosity I did a google search for mercedes benz email lists and mercedes benz discussion and okiebenz.com does not appear on the first page of results for either. So people who are looking for a list are likely not finding this one, and over the years it seems we've been steadily losing members. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
