Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
yes - saw both, wondered why you sent two. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Yup - doesn't compute for me either, but then again, I barely do the tone CW. I heard stories of comm sargents in WWII, from the hams at Ft. Sill, who would lie back and listen to a stream of CW, then get up and write down a paragraph of text, with no errors. Amazing stuff. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and dashes, and from there it's just about the rhythm... Then you're better than me. The dash has a click like the dot and then a clack. If click = dot and clack = dash I might do okay, but the my brain gave up when the clicks and clicks from the click-clacks started running together. The data about that first sound clip from the hosting page. We don't have the documentation to go with the discs, but the record logically enough, starts with ten single dots, then ten single dashes. There next follows the letter A (di-dah) 5 times, then letter B (dah-dididit) 5 times. At this point, if you are not into the original American Morse, consternation reigns! Probably we are expecting letter ___C___to be 'dah-di-dah-dit', as in the International Morse Code? No! In American Morse, ___C___ was ___didit , dit___, the comma indicating a space within the character. http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
'Cause first one never came thru here. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? yes - saw both, wondered why you sent two. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Roger, Roger, what's the vector Victor? -R On 8/20/2012 11:57 AM, WILTON wrote: Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago, including Morse code, I was in bathroom at home one evening, when I realized I did not have adequate supply of toilet tissue. I began to send oral distress signal to SWMBO with appropriate high-pitched tone, Dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit; dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit, etc. After about three transmissions, SWMBO came running and asking, What is it? I replied, that's and international distress signal - SOS - I need toilet tissue, please. She learned well; the signal has come in handy for that many other distress situations around the house and yard. Her response continues to be immediate. 'Never used Morse code in Air Force, though. 'Used a little more in puddle jumper (Cessna) flying; 'tune in a VOR, etc., station for navigation aid or approaching an airport and often first get the three letter identifier in Morse code; I was usually able catch the first letter and have to wait for second transmission to catch second letter, third trnx for third letter, etc., and wait for it in English to be really sure. Most annoying was Tiverton, OH; I'd tune it in, turn the volume up, listen to the Morse, and, suddenly, the woman's very shrill voice would squeal loudly into my ear, TIVERTON VOR!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Oops! That was 52 years ago, not 62. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago, including Morse code, I was in bathroom at home one evening, when I realized I did not have adequate supply of toilet tissue. I began to send oral distress signal to SWMBO with appropriate high-pitched tone, Dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit; dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit, etc. After about three transmissions, SWMBO came running and asking, What is it? I replied, that's and international distress signal - SOS - I need toilet tissue, please. She learned well; the signal has come in handy for that many other distress situations around the house and yard. Her response continues to be immediate. 'Never used Morse code in Air Force, though. 'Used a little more in puddle jumper (Cessna) flying; 'tune in a VOR, etc., station for navigation aid or approaching an airport and often first get the three letter identifier in Morse code; I was usually able catch the first letter and have to wait for second transmission to catch second letter, third trnx for third letter, etc., and wait for it in English to be really sure. Most annoying was Tiverton, OH; I'd tune it in, turn the volume up, listen to the Morse, and, suddenly, the woman's very shrill voice would squeal loudly into my ear, TIVERTON VOR!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. Sister worked as a (Multiplex?) operator for the C O railway in Richmond during WW-2 with a randy group of old telegraphers who were still using the original Morse. She was a fast typist and would send more messages per shift (8 or 900) than the table of bug clickers combined would send. I tried to learn it at age 13-15 but our visit was soon over and we went back to Indiana. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Oops! That was 52 years ago, not 62. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago, including Morse code, I was in bathroom at home one evening, when I realized I did not have adequate supply of toilet tissue. I began to send oral distress signal to SWMBO with appropriate high-pitched tone, Dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit; dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit, etc. After about three transmissions, SWMBO came running and asking, What is it? I replied, that's and international distress signal - SOS - I need toilet tissue, please. She learned well; the signal has come in handy for that many other distress situations around the house and yard. Her response continues to be immediate. 'Never used Morse code in Air Force, though. 'Used a little more in puddle jumper (Cessna) flying; 'tune in a VOR, etc., station for navigation aid or approaching an airport and often first get the three letter identifier in Morse code; I was usually able catch the first letter and have to wait for second transmission to catch second letter, third trnx for third letter, etc., and wait for it in English to be really sure. Most annoying was Tiverton, OH; I'd tune it in, turn the volume up, listen to the Morse, and, suddenly, the woman's very shrill voice would squeal loudly into my ear, TIVERTON VOR!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
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I'll take Hamm on 5 and hold the Mayo! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Roger, Roger, what's the vector Victor? -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? --... ...-- e n6zes On 20/Aug/12 10:37, Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. Sister worked as a (Multiplex?) operator for the C O railway in Richmond during WW-2 with a randy group of old telegraphers who were still using the original Morse. She was a fast typist and would send more messages per shift (8 or 900) than the table of bug clickers combined would send. I tried to learn it at age 13-15 but our visit was soon over and we went back to Indiana. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Oops! That was 52 years ago, not 62. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago, including Morse code, I was in bathroom at home one evening, when I realized I did not have adequate supply of toilet tissue. I began to send oral distress signal to SWMBO with appropriate high-pitched tone, Dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit; dit, dit, dit - dah, dah, dah - dit, dit, dit, etc. After about three transmissions, SWMBO came running and asking, What is it? I replied, that's and international distress signal - SOS - I need toilet tissue, please. She learned well; the signal has come in handy for that many other distress situations around the house and yard. Her response continues to be immediate. 'Never used Morse code in Air Force, though. 'Used a little more in puddle jumper (Cessna) flying; 'tune in a VOR, etc., station for navigation aid or approaching an airport and often first get the three letter identifier in Morse code; I was usually able catch the first letter and have to wait for second transmission to catch second letter, third trnx for third letter, etc., and wait for it in English to be really sure. Most annoying was Tiverton, OH; I'd tune it in, turn the volume up, listen to the Morse, and, suddenly, the woman's very shrill voice would squeal loudly into my ear, TIVERTON VOR!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http
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Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. Correct - about the clicks. Is it more interesting? I dunno. Early on there were few different flavors. Vail, Prussian, Bain. By 1865 or so most of the variations were set aside and an international standard was in use. The US railroad continued to use American Morse, though. The standand, and what is used in radio, is properly called international code, not morse code. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip Sister had a bug. A telegraph key moved up and down; a bug moved side to side. IIRC if you moved the bug to the right there was one click, which was a dash. If you moved it to the left there were rapid fire clicks which were dots; the number depending on how long you held it to the left. Spacing of the clicks told the listener what letter was being sent. The bug was all mechanical with a spring versus weight bouncing the contacts together. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraph_key Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yep; i've had both straight keys and bugs; have a modern version of the bug (an electronic paddle set) next to me here on the desk. http://www.bencher.com/ham/index.php?main_page=popup_imagepID=1 change your statement Spacing of the clicks told the listener what letter was being sent. to Spacing of the dots and dashes told the listener what letter was being sent, and you'd be correct. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 15:49, Gerry Archer wrote: Sister had a bug. A telegraph key moved up and down; a bug moved side to side. IIRC if you moved the bug to the right there was one click, which was a dash. If you moved it to the left there were rapid fire clicks which were dots; the number depending on how long you held it to the left. Spacing of the clicks told the listener what letter was being sent. The bug was all mechanical with a spring versus weight bouncing the contacts together. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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ernest breakfield wrote: well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P Well, he was visiting a relative that worked for the railroad and I understand in some places they were still using american code into the 1970's. So while he might be 150 years old, he wouldn't have to be for the story to hold. *grin* ... but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png Yup. But did you listen to the what it sounds like? It does not sound at all to my CW ear like a dash! It sounds like nothing but clicks and clacks. This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:49:14 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Sister had a bug. A telegraph key moved up and down; a bug moved side to side. IIRC if you moved the bug to the right there was one click, which was a dash. If you moved it to the left there were rapid fire clicks which were dots; the number depending on how long you held it to the left. Look closely at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vibroplex_06.JPG and you'll see that moving it to the left gives dashes and moving it to the right gives a string of dots. I had one of those back in my amateur radio days. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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hi Phillip! i hadn't seen anything about the old code still in use into the 1970s; that makes it plausible. yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and dashes, and from there it's just about the rhythm... cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 16:26, Fmiser wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P Well, he was visiting a relative that worked for the railroad and I understand in some places they were still using american code into the 1970's. So while he might be 150 years old, he wouldn't have to be for the story to hold. *grin* ... but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png Yup. But did you listen to the what it sounds like? It does not sound at all to my CW ear like a dash! It sounds like nothing but clicks and clacks. This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO were probably in their 60s or older, so I suspect they might have been called out of retirement to man the railroads communication system. Back then nearly everything moved by rail; people, war materiel, troops, domestic freight, etc. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was only 10 in '44, but I clearly remember the all-out, totally committed effort; 'also remember our deep hatred for Hitler and Tojo (Jap premier). 3 of my brothers were in the thick of it from beginning. Speed limit was 35 mph. BTW, I still have my ration book for food stuff, shoes, etc. Helped brother put blowout boots in tires coupla times. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO were probably in their 60s or older, so I suspect they might have been called out of retirement to man the railroads communication system. Back then nearly everything moved by rail; people, war materiel, troops, domestic freight, etc. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R On 8/20/2012 7:47 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO were probably in their 60s or older, so I suspect they might have been called out of retirement to man the railroads communication system. Back then nearly everything moved by rail; people, war materiel, troops, domestic freight, etc. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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very cool; thanks Gerry, for sharing that! cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 16:47, Gerry Archer wrote: I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO were probably in their 60s or older, so I suspect they might have been called out of retirement to man the railroads communication system. Back then nearly everything moved by rail; people, war materiel, troops, domestic freight, etc. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I remember the boots. Sister loaned me her '35 Chevy because she couldn't find tires for it. Got by with small boots and many flats until I managed to get a couple of full boots. Then we had to check the tires every day to be sure the tire fabric hadn't worn through and started wearing the boot. Two BILs were overseas; one a motor pool mechanic in Germany and the other a bomb demo engineer in the Pacific islands. Twenty some odd in his group went over and 9 came back. He was never the same after the war. Today he would probably be diagnosed with PTSD. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com I was only 10 in '44, but I clearly remember the all-out, totally committed effort; 'also remember our deep hatred for Hitler and Tojo (Jap premier). 3 of my brothers were in the thick of it from beginning. Speed limit was 35 mph. BTW, I still have my ration book for food stuff, shoes, etc. Helped brother put blowout boots in tires coupla times. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO were probably in their 60s or older, so I suspect they might have been called out of retirement to man the railroads communication system. Back then nearly everything moved by rail; people, war materiel, troops, domestic freight, etc. Gerry From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point is that even that had long and short dashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amercode.png you're not going to find the old 'American Morse Code' anywhere now but in Museums or those games where people dress up and try to reenact some historical event. cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 14:25, Fmiser wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, Gerry is correct. Telegraph morse code (later called american code, or railroad code) is clicks only. It is the sound of the solenoid that originally marked a paper tape. Operators learned to copy by sound only and skip the paper tape. That was in the 1840s. The is a dash in the American code, but the way it sounds on a sounder is not at all dash-like to CW operators. The clunk of the release is a bit different sounding that the click of pull-in and the time between them is the difference between a dot and a dash. Actually, initially there was two lengths of dashes. but reading code of just identical clicks would be difficult at best, but more likely, impossible. imagine; how would you be able to identify a click as a Dit (e) or a Dah (t)? Heh. Tell that to the many thousands of railroad telegraphers. The did it for over a hundred years! Not each one of them, of course - but as a whole. *smiles* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code http://33rdwis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=33reenactaction=printthread=207 http://www.w5sf.com/n0hff_morse_article/c19a.htm This site has some sound files http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm http://www.normanfield.com/mercury.mp3 http://www.normanfield.com/hmvb789a.mp3 --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
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We are such wimps. Theres very little sacrifice anymore. BTW I received a 1942 Coleman 220BX today. An interesting lantern because of changes to the basic design required by war shortages of brass. The burners are ceramic, many of the other brass parts are steel. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:18:59 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Message-ID: 5032e203.8060...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And '43 pennies were zinc-coated steel. Butter was white margarine with a little accompanying capsule of food coloring that the buyer mixed into it to make it look like butter. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? We are such wimps. Theres very little sacrifice anymore. BTW I received a 1942 Coleman 220BX today. An interesting lantern because of changes to the basic design required by war shortages of brass. The burners are ceramic, many of the other brass parts are steel. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:18:59 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Message-ID: 5032e203.8060...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and dashes, and from there it's just about the rhythm... Then you're better than me. The dash has a click like the dot and then a clack. If click = dot and clack = dash I might do okay, but the my brain gave up when the clicks and clicks from the click-clacks started running together. The data about that first sound clip from the hosting page. We don't have the documentation to go with the discs, but the record logically enough, starts with ten single dots, then ten single dashes. There next follows the letter A (di-dah) 5 times, then letter B (dah-dididit) 5 times. At this point, if you are not into the original American Morse, consternation reigns! Probably we are expecting letter ___C___to be 'dah-di-dah-dit', as in the International Morse Code? No! In American Morse, ___C___ was ___didit , dit___, the comma indicating a space within the character. http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lost again?
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Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope On 8/19/2012 13:05, WILTON wrote: Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All your emails are coming through. Quit worrying so much. WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did not see first one. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Me, either. That's the point. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Did not see first one. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:53:55 -0500 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Receiving You 5 by 5 Shouldn't that be 5 by 9? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:53:55 -0500 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Receiving You 5 by 5 Shouldn't that be 5 by 9? Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He should turn it up to 11 --R On 8/19/2012 7:49 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He should turn it up to 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeOXsA8sp_Efeature=youtube_gdata_player Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See http://www.hamuniverse.com/rst.html R = READABILITY 1 -- Unreadable 2 -- Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable 3 -- Readable with considerable difficulty 4 -- Readable with practically no difficulty 5 -- Perfectly readable S = SIGNAL STRENGTH 1 -- Faint signals, barely perceptible 2 -- Very weak signals 3 -- Weak signals 4 -- Fair signals 5 -- Fairly good signals 6 -- Good signals 7 -- Moderately strong signals 8 -- Strong signals 9 -- Extremely strong signals T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind So 5 by 9 is Perfectly Readable Extremely Strong Signals Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:19:25 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified a.c. but strongly ripple-modulated 6 -- Filtered tone, definite trace of ripple modulation 7 -- Near pure tone, trace of ripple modulation 8 -- Near perfect tone, slight trace of modulation 9 -- Perfect tone, no trace of ripple or modulation of any kind The third section of RST, tone, is for CW transmissions and is omitted for voice (or text, as in our case) transmissions. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lost again? Test
Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe I'm shell shocked. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think everyone is either sleeping in or out driving, or working on the car. The list is quiet this morning. Except Woger. he is polishing his new car with a toothbrush. Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable. Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more than enough flying. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Maybe I'm shell shocked. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and cut the weeds/grass. Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed several years ago still holding up. Might oughta (that's Southern for maybe I should just in case any of youse guys/y'all have trouble translating) slime the rear ones. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable. Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more than enough flying. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Maybe I'm shell shocked. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed 182,
also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way). Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on the
carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were somebody, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing
for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable.
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was
fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more
than enough flying.
Gerry
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there?
Wilton
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When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:
Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
--R
On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one
Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern,
etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go
around while I landed and got out of the way).
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Wonder how much great came down on Tower for that one...
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:
Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
--R
On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one
Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern,
etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go
around while I landed and got out of the way).
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Where were you stationed, KI Sawyer? We used to see bombers and tankers from
that base fly over our home in central Wisconsin frequently. There were hills
and high country in that part of the state; we speculated that the low level
bomber passes were training to avoid radar.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'87 300TD
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed 182,
also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way). Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on the
carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were somebody, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing
for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable.
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was
fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more
than enough flying.
Gerry
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there?
Wilton
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WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).
What? Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets? You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*
For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane. The Citation is a business jet.
The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.
--Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
I finally made time to cut the grass today, it'd been way too long and part of the yard was a total hay field. My wife had tried to start the old Snapper last week but it wouldn't go. Today I discovered that the auto choke had stuck on, its done that before too. Its one of those systems where you push the throttle all the way up to engage. I'm thinking its time to convert to a manual choke. I've found that the detent for max-throttle isn't very pronounced so occasionally it'll slip the choke on while I'm mowing and the engine spits and pops until I figure out whats going on and slip it back just slightly. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:40:39 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Message-ID: 5AC47638A23F46FB84A2B7EC71FB9A01@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and cut the weeds/grass. Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed several years ago still holding up. Might oughta (that's Southern for maybe I should just in case any of youse guys/y'all have trouble translating) slime the rear ones. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Should say heat not great. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Wonder how much great came down on Tower for that one... -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
A 150 is capable of slow flight at about 30-35 mph, and when you have a
nice headwind you can almost hover. The windows open too so you can
stick your arm out, and shout at people on the ground. This makes for
great fun over golf courses, in particular when the golf course is
located on the final approach to the airport, and the engine is
throttled back and it makes very little noise.
Not that I would have any direct knowledge of that sort of thing...
--R
On 8/12/12 3:42 PM, Fmiser wrote:
WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).
What? Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets? You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*
For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane. The Citation is a business jet.
The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.
--Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Four years (May 71 - Jul 75) at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 22 mi south of Sault Ste.
Marie; not quite six years Robins, GA (Oct 62 - Jun 68); 2 1/2 years (Mar
79 - Nov 81) Seymour Johnson, NC, lotsa low level all around, even up and
down mountains and mountain valleys in Rockies, Sierras, Appalachians, NY,
Ontario, NC, TN, KY, MO, NM, CO, CA, NV, etc., plains of NE, KS, Dakotas,
many areas I can't remember.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Where were you stationed, KI Sawyer? We used to see bombers and tankers
from that base fly over our home in central Wisconsin frequently. There
were hills and high country in that part of the state; we speculated that
the low level bomber passes were training to avoid radar.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed
182,
also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
and
got out of the way). Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on
the
carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were somebody, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing
for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable.
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was
fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more
than enough flying.
Gerry
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there?
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
150 small - very small
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:42 PM
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WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).
What? Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets? You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*
For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane. The Citation is a business jet.
The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.
--Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
I would liken a 150 as the Volkswagen of private planes.
I started in a 150, then a 172, then a 182, then a Piper, and finally to a
Beech Bonanza V35 with full IFR capabilities (all my Dad's planes.) Dad had an
instructor's rating, so I often got to fly left seat in the Bonanza, unless we
were full IFR.
I don't like having a shoebox on my head, thank you very much.
We had an AP guy at our FBO that was old as the hills. Smokey as he was
known, had a Luscomb that he used to fly to Florida in every winter. We often
joked that we could drive to Florida quicker than Smokey could fly...
Dan
On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
A 150 is capable of slow flight at about 30-35 mph, and when you have a nice
headwind you can almost hover. The windows open too so you can stick your
arm out, and shout at people on the ground. This makes for great fun over
golf courses, in particular when the golf course is located on the final
approach to the airport, and the engine is throttled back and it makes very
little noise.
Not that I would have any direct knowledge of that sort of thing...
--R
On 8/12/12 3:42 PM, Fmiser wrote:
WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).
What? Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets? You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*
For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane. The Citation is a business jet.
The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.
--Philip
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I cut the weeds/grass today, too. Pretty good hay crop in coupla areas. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test I finally made time to cut the grass today, it'd been way too long and part of the yard was a total hay field. My wife had tried to start the old Snapper last week but it wouldn't go. Today I discovered that the auto choke had stuck on, its done that before too. Its one of those systems where you push the throttle all the way up to engage. I'm thinking its time to convert to a manual choke. I've found that the detent for max-throttle isn't very pronounced so occasionally it'll slip the choke on while I'm mowing and the engine spits and pops until I figure out whats going on and slip it back just slightly. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:40:39 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Message-ID: 5AC47638A23F46FB84A2B7EC71FB9A01@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and cut the weeds/grass. Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed several years ago still holding up. Might oughta (that's Southern for maybe I should just in case any of youse guys/y'all have trouble translating) slime the rear ones. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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WILTON wrote: I cut the weeds/grass today, too. Pretty good hay crop in coupla areas. I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard. It has been so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two months. I'm saving money on gasoline though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Same situation here. THe only place we've mowed in the last two months is over the septic lateral lines. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: WILTON wrote: I cut the weeds/grass today, too. Pretty good hay crop in coupla areas. I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard. It has been so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two months. I'm saving money on gasoline though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
afterwards, but it was close.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:
Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
--R
On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
and got out of the way).
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Our local airport is only staffed part-time. If you are landing at
night and there's nobody in the tower, you double-click your mic on a
particular frequency and the landing lights switch on. I don't know how
planes coordinate landing at unmanned airfields, but I assume there's a
protocol.
Allan
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes:
At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
afterwards, but it was close.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:
Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
--R
On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
and got out of the way).
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Unicom frequency, all small airports have sort of a CB freq you just
get on and announce what you are up to. Others are supposed to listen
and do the same. Supposed to.
I had a fun afternoon, I believe I had related before, wherein the Air
Guard F-100s were practicing IFR in the pattern. I was doing touch and
goes with my instructor, and announcing properly under tower control.
We were at 1600ft where we were supposed to be. I hear the tower tell
an F-100 flight your traffic is 12 o'clock 1 mile at 1200 you will pass
over at 400. My instructor was about 3 milliseconds faster than I was
and yanked the throttle back and shoved the wheel into the dash, and a
few seconds later 2 F-100s passed over us, right over us, close enough
to see the rivets.
We were both rattled and after getting the airplane under control I
asked what that was about, meaning the tower FU, and he said we almost
scraped some paint. Uh, yeah. I landed the airplane with no further
conversation and as we were taxiing past the terminal building where the
tower was, he says stop here so I did and he jumps out without a word
and was making a very purposeful line toward the building. Hmmm. so I
went on over to the ramp and parked the airplane and got it sorted, he
shows up about 10min later, still red and very angry. He tells me he
chewed out the controllers something fierce, they were clueless as to
what had happened. Back then you could just go up to the tower, I used
to do that occasionally. I don't think there was ever any sort of
incident report made, but it would have been a serious CF, like fatally
serious for 3 airplanes and 4 people, had we both not been paying close
attention to the radio.
I was 16 at the time, still a bit away from getting my license and had
not even been driving that long, that put the fear into me about flying
airplanes and paying very very close attention to everything going on
around -- situational awareness as he called it. It was a good lesson
about a lot of things.
--R
On 8/12/12 8:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
Our local airport is only staffed part-time. If you are landing at
night and there's nobody in the tower, you double-click your mic on a
particular frequency and the landing lights switch on. I don't know how
planes coordinate landing at unmanned airfields, but I assume there's a
protocol.
Allan
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes:
At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
afterwards, but it was close.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:
Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
--R
On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
and got out of the way).
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
The rains have come here, or at least a little. The area I filled last spring has LEAPED up from the ground. I'm not sure what the grass is that took first but its a broadleaf, probably timothy, it looks like hay. I suspect they put that in the mix to get SOMETHING growing and it'll get crowded out by a smaller bladed grass later. In a shadier spot of the lawn I got some real fine bladed stuff from the same mix. Or maybe all the mix grass died in the hot sun... -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:50:26 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test Message-ID: canzcij8ydz2fgfs76pvs3zrhwho886ezbreeqjay6zs4phw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Same situation here. THe only place we've mowed in the last two months is over the septic lateral lines. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: WILTON wrote: I cut the weeds/grass today, too. Pretty good hay crop in coupla areas. I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard. It has been so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two months. I'm saving money on gasoline though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Fmiser wrote: I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard. It has been so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two months. I had to mow the more persistent weeds about a week ago after a couple months of not mowing. The grass hadn't grown. Six inches of rain in the last few days have greened it up nicely though, I'll probably mow again before the month is over. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:26:33 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Six inches of rain in the last few days have greened it up nicely though, I'll probably mow again before the month is over. We have been getting some rain here in Los Alamos. I need to get out and mow the lawn, but with all the work on the house and the rain haven't had an opportunity. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
