Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:

Fram is a placebo.  You are about as well running NO filter as a fram.


Orange cans have been getting better in recent years.
The premium models are actually pretty good, but not inexpensive. (talking about 
the steel can filters, not MBZ inserts)


What's funny is the filter inserts for GM Ecotec engines. You pull the filter 
cartridge out of an ACDelco box and it has MANN-GERMANY printed on it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

 What's funny is the filter inserts for GM Ecotec engines. You pull the
 filter cartridge out of an ACDelco box and it has MANN-GERMANY
 printed on it.

I am running a Mann filter (can type) on our Ford Focus.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Tim C
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, what are 
 they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)

In a rush I have gotten filters at CarQuest.  The one at Airport Blvd
in Morrisville stocks common 123 and 126 parts, has a decent selection
in Raleigh (2-3 hours wait), and anything from Worldpac Greensboro
comes within 24 hours.  They are 25-50%+ more expensive than Rusty and
a lot more out of the way, but they are great in a pinch.

The local Autozones no longer stock anything I want, including
oils/liquids/etc.  They also have a five day shipping window and
demand full retail prepayment for orders.  I have no idea how they
make money.

One Advance in Durham (Hillsborough Rd) carries limited quantities of
123 and 126 stuff.  I've never seen any of the other Advances have
anything MB specific, but I have not looked for filters specifically.

I have had poor success with our local NAPA affiliates, for some
reason.  I can't really explain that; my father is a big fan of NAPA,
so maybe it's just me, or the area.

On the other hand if you are in Durham and need a 126 part, give me a
call first because it is very possible I have one in my shed. :)

Best,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Needed to change fuel filters on the road the other day and realized I had
no spares with me.  Stopped by Advance to grab a pair..primary: made in
china, secondary: made in GERMANY.

Don't know about oil filters there.

Mike
On Oct 8, 2012 12:30 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so,
 what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)

 In a rush I have gotten filters at CarQuest.  The one at Airport Blvd
 in Morrisville stocks common 123 and 126 parts, has a decent selection
 in Raleigh (2-3 hours wait), and anything from Worldpac Greensboro
 comes within 24 hours.  They are 25-50%+ more expensive than Rusty and
 a lot more out of the way, but they are great in a pinch.

 The local Autozones no longer stock anything I want, including
 oils/liquids/etc.  They also have a five day shipping window and
 demand full retail prepayment for orders.  I have no idea how they
 make money.

 One Advance in Durham (Hillsborough Rd) carries limited quantities of
 123 and 126 stuff.  I've never seen any of the other Advances have
 anything MB specific, but I have not looked for filters specifically.

 I have had poor success with our local NAPA affiliates, for some
 reason.  I can't really explain that; my father is a big fan of NAPA,
 so maybe it's just me, or the area.

 On the other hand if you are in Durham and need a 126 part, give me a
 call first because it is very possible I have one in my shed. :)

 Best,
 -Tim

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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread John Reames
It's been my experience that napa store brand filters exceed the cost of Wix by 
a significant amount. (in some cases the napa filter is 2.5x the price of the 
Wix!)

I've got an application that Rusty isn't able to help me with; my choices are 
NAPA (ouch), Wix, and Fleetguard. 

FWIW, it's a Mitsibishi S4Q2 engine; 33hp @1800rpm. Any thoughts?

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On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:30, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, what 
 are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)
 
 In a rush I have gotten filters at CarQuest.  The one at Airport Blvd
 in Morrisville stocks common 123 and 126 parts, has a decent selection
 in Raleigh (2-3 hours wait), and anything from Worldpac Greensboro
 comes within 24 hours.  They are 25-50%+ more expensive than Rusty and
 a lot more out of the way, but they are great in a pinch.
 
 The local Autozones no longer stock anything I want, including
 oils/liquids/etc.  They also have a five day shipping window and
 demand full retail prepayment for orders.  I have no idea how they
 make money.
 
 One Advance in Durham (Hillsborough Rd) carries limited quantities of
 123 and 126 stuff.  I've never seen any of the other Advances have
 anything MB specific, but I have not looked for filters specifically.
 
 I have had poor success with our local NAPA affiliates, for some
 reason.  I can't really explain that; my father is a big fan of NAPA,
 so maybe it's just me, or the area.
 
 On the other hand if you are in Durham and need a 126 part, give me a
 call first because it is very possible I have one in my shed. :)
 
 Best,
 -Tim
 
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Allan Streib
John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net writes:

 It's been my experience that napa store brand filters exceed the cost of Wix 
 by a significant amount. (in some cases the napa filter is 2.5x the price of 
 the Wix!)

 I've got an application that Rusty isn't able to help me with; my choices are 
 NAPA (ouch), Wix, and Fleetguard. 

 FWIW, it's a Mitsibishi S4Q2 engine; 33hp @1800rpm. Any thoughts?

I thought NAPA filters were made by Wix.  I don't know anything about
Fleetguard, so if Wix is cheaper, I'd probably go with that.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-08 Thread Dieselhead
Fleetguard used to be good.  I'd go with Wix or Fleetguard unless you 
want to buy 3 and cut them apart to see who is good/bad.


Fleetguard I believe is still owned by Cummins.  In 1979 Fleeguard 
were made by Walker Deluxe  (Yep the muffler people), which was then 
owned by Tenneco.


It's been my experience that napa store brand filters exceed the 
cost of Wix by a significant amount. (in some cases the napa filter 
is 2.5x the price of the Wix!)


I've got an application that Rusty isn't able to help me with; my 
choices are NAPA (ouch), Wix, and Fleetguard.


FWIW, it's a Mitsibishi S4Q2 engine; 33hp @1800rpm. Any thoughts?

--
John W Reames
jream...@verizon.net
Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:30, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:


 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If 
so, what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not 
knowing.  ;)


 In a rush I have gotten filters at CarQuest.  The one at Airport Blvd
 in Morrisville stocks common 123 and 126 parts, has a decent selection
 in Raleigh (2-3 hours wait), and anything from Worldpac Greensboro
 comes within 24 hours.  They are 25-50%+ more expensive than Rusty and
 a lot more out of the way, but they are great in a pinch.

 The local Autozones no longer stock anything I want, including
 oils/liquids/etc.  They also have a five day shipping window and
 demand full retail prepayment for orders.  I have no idea how they
 make money.

 One Advance in Durham (Hillsborough Rd) carries limited quantities of
 123 and 126 stuff.  I've never seen any of the other Advances have
 anything MB specific, but I have not looked for filters specifically.

 I have had poor success with our local NAPA affiliates, for some
 reason.  I can't really explain that; my father is a big fan of NAPA,
 so maybe it's just me, or the area.

 On the other hand if you are in Durham and need a 126 part, give me a
 call first because it is very possible I have one in my shed. :)

 Best,
 -Tim

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[MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread WILTON
Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked where I get 
my oil and filters.  Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at Wally's; filters from 
our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  Friend wanted to know why don't I get 'em from 
local parts store.  Answer:  Don't think they sell a filter I wanta use.  I 
have confidence in Rusty's filters; 'don't have confidence in whatever local 
parts store is selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and Rusty's filters come 
to my front door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's filters, but now I'm just 
curious - do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, 
what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread Allan Streib
I've occasionally seen a Fram filter cartridge or some such at the
Autozone, it appears to be just a bare pleated filter element; it didn't
have the separate bypass filter section.  I always use an OEM such as a
Mahle or Hengst from Rusty.  They are handy items to pad on an order if
you're close to the free shipping threshold.

Allan


WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked where I get 
 my oil and filters.  Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at Wally's; filters from 
 our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  Friend wanted to know why don't I get 'em 
 from local parts store.  Answer:  Don't think they sell a filter I wanta 
 use.  I have confidence in Rusty's filters; 'don't have confidence in 
 whatever local parts store is selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and 
 Rusty's filters come to my front door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's 
 filters, but now I'm just curious - do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 
 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay 
 tonight not knowing.  ;)

 Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread Dieselhead
In general, yes, they are not of the quality of what Mr. Q sells. 
often not fitting right, no bypass, or 100% bypass.  Wix makes 
filters that are generally good, but the MB Wix filters make me real 
nervous.  In an emergency I will use a Wix, but Mr.Q's filters are 
better and generally cheaper.



Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked 
where I get my oil and filters.  Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at 
Wally's; filters from our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  Friend wanted 
to know why don't I get 'em from local parts store.  Answer:  Don't 
think they sell a filter I wanta use.  I have confidence in Rusty's 
filters; 'don't have confidence in whatever local parts store is 
selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and Rusty's filters come to 
my front door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's filters, but now 
I'm just curious - do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 
126's, etc?  If so, what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay 
tonight not knowing.  ;)


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Local parts stores have crap filters for twice the price of correct Rusty ones. 
Rusty is the man (pun not intended) for filters!

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2012, at 11:20 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked where I get 
my oil and filters.  Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at Wally's; filters from 
our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  Friend wanted to know why don't I get 'em from 
local parts store.  Answer:  Don't think they sell a filter I wanta use.  I 
have confidence in Rusty's filters; 'don't have confidence in whatever local 
parts store is selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and Rusty's filters come 
to my front door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's filters, but now I'm just 
curious - do local parts stores have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, 
what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread Russ Williams
Advance sells Wix filters for the 616  617 engines don't know about the 
60x motors.

When I bought SWMBO's 240D there was one in the trunk from PO. For grins
I cut it apart construction was on the flimsy side filter material was 
thin and not as much
of it as the ones Rusty sells. I'll take the Mann or Hengst over the Wix 
or Fram every time.


Russ
On 10/7/2012 22:20, WILTON wrote:

Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked where I get my oil and filters.  
Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at Wally's; filters from our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  
Friend wanted to know why don't I get 'em from local parts store.  Answer:  Don't think they 
sell a filter I wanta use.  I have confidence in Rusty's filters; 'don't have confidence in whatever 
local parts store is selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and Rusty's filters come to my front 
door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's filters, but now I'm just curious - do local parts stores 
have 'em for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, what are they - POS?  'Hope I can sleep okay tonight 
not knowing.  ;)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] MB filters curiosity

2012-10-07 Thread Dieselhead

Fram is a placebo.  You are about as well running NO filter as a fram.

Advance sells Wix filters for the 616  617 engines don't know about 
the 60x motors.

When I bought SWMBO's 240D there was one in the trunk from PO. For grins
I cut it apart construction was on the flimsy side filter material 
was thin and not as much
of it as the ones Rusty sells. I'll take the Mann or Hengst over the 
Wix or Fram every time.


Russ
On 10/7/2012 22:20, WILTON wrote:
Friend coupla days ago was asking about my MB oil changes; 'asked 
where I get my oil and filters.  Answer:  oil (M1 Diesel truck) at 
Wally's; filters from our favorite Georgian, Rusty.  Friend wanted 
to know why don't I get 'em from local parts store.  Answer: 
Don't think they sell a filter I wanta use.  I have confidence in 
Rusty's filters; 'don't have confidence in whatever local parts 
store is selling, if anything for my MB's.  Oh, and Rusty's 
filters come to my front door.  'Don't plan to change from Rusty's 
filters, but now I'm just curious - do local parts stores have 'em 
for 123's, 124's, 126's, etc?  If so, what are they - POS?  'Hope I 
can sleep okay tonight not knowing.  ;)


Wilton


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