Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Inner bushings; outer bushings are actually pressed into the wheel carrier (the 
only bushing out of the five links that attach to the wheel carrier).
 
I suspect that one could make a tool for the inner bushings cheaply with a 
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod, some pipe of the right inner diameter, and big 
washers and a socket, and do the job at leisure.
 
I'm probably not going to be done with the S.T. tool for the outer bushing 
until January - did you need it sooner?
 
Let me know if you also find the inner bushing sleeve to be tapered.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of OK Don
Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun



Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of
them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new
bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!).

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 124 Fans,

 Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
 to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
 that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
 so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
 at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
 were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
 had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
 bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
 to be slightly larger than the old.

 Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
 worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

 Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
 less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
 wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
 have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
 of a pipe).

 When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
 link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
 piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
 stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

 -Max
 --

OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-29 Thread OK Don
I hope to need it before then, but I don't have the parts yet -

I'll write up what I find when I do it.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Inner bushings; outer bushings are actually pressed into the wheel carrier
 (the only bushing out of the five links that attach to the wheel carrier).

 I suspect that one could make a tool for the inner bushings cheaply with a
 piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod, some pipe of the right inner diameter, and
 big washers and a socket, and do the job at leisure.

 I'm probably not going to be done with the S.T. tool for the outer bushing
 until January - did you need it sooner?

 Let me know if you also find the inner bushing sleeve to be tapered.

 -Max

 --

OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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[MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
124 Fans,
 
Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
to be slightly larger than the old.
 
Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.
 
Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
of a pipe).
 
When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.
 
-Max
Very respectfully, 
/s/ 
Max Dillon 
'87 300TD 332k miles 
'95 E300 275k miles (project) 
'73 Balboa 20 
Charleston SC 


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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. 
But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link)



124 Fans,

Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
to be slightly larger than the old.

Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
of a pipe).

When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

-Max
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 332k miles
'95 E300 275k miles (project)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
What year was the car that you did this work on?  I'm wondering if a
change was made mid-run.

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. 
But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link)

124 Fans,

Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a 
shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We

found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be 
tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when 
starting at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had 
bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve 
rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He 
measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, 
and found the new to be slightly larger than the old.

Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as

275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been 
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require 
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the 
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would 
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and 
part of a pipe).

When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring 
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a 
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I 
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

-Max
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 332k miles
'95 E300 275k miles (project)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread OK Don
Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of
them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new
bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!).

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 124 Fans,

 Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
 to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
 that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
 so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
 at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
 were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
 had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
 bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
 to be slightly larger than the old.

 Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
 worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

 Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
 less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
 wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
 have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
 of a pipe).

 When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
 link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
 piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
 stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

 -Max
 --

OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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