Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
Inner bushings; outer bushings are actually pressed into the wheel carrier (the only bushing out of the five links that attach to the wheel carrier). I suspect that one could make a tool for the inner bushings cheaply with a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod, some pipe of the right inner diameter, and big washers and a socket, and do the job at leisure. I'm probably not going to be done with the S.T. tool for the outer bushing until January - did you need it sooner? Let me know if you also find the inner bushing sleeve to be tapered. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of OK Don Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 7:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!). On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: 124 Fans, Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in. We found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting at the wide end. At first the technician thought I had bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially). He measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new to be slightly larger than the old. Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links? Car as 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been worked on. The FSM does not mention this. Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require less and less force. I had been trying to press out the bushing the wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part of a pipe). When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring link and which direction to move the bushing. I'm also going to get a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store. -Max -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
I hope to need it before then, but I don't have the parts yet - I'll write up what I find when I do it. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Inner bushings; outer bushings are actually pressed into the wheel carrier (the only bushing out of the five links that attach to the wheel carrier). I suspect that one could make a tool for the inner bushings cheaply with a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod, some pipe of the right inner diameter, and big washers and a socket, and do the job at leisure. I'm probably not going to be done with the S.T. tool for the outer bushing until January - did you need it sooner? Let me know if you also find the inner bushing sleeve to be tapered. -Max -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
124 Fans, Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in. We found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting at the wide end. At first the technician thought I had bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially). He measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new to be slightly larger than the old. Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links? Car as 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been worked on. The FSM does not mention this. Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require less and less force. I had been trying to press out the bushing the wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part of a pipe). When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring link and which direction to move the bushing. I'm also going to get a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store. -Max Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link) 124 Fans, Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in. We found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting at the wide end. At first the technician thought I had bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially). He measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new to be slightly larger than the old. Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links? Car as 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been worked on. The FSM does not mention this. Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require less and less force. I had been trying to press out the bushing the wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part of a pipe). When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring link and which direction to move the bushing. I'm also going to get a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store. -Max Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
What year was the car that you did this work on? I'm wondering if a change was made mid-run. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link) 124 Fans, Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in. We found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting at the wide end. At first the technician thought I had bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially). He measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new to be slightly larger than the old. Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links? Car as 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been worked on. The FSM does not mention this. Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require less and less force. I had been trying to press out the bushing the wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part of a pipe). When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring link and which direction to move the bushing. I'm also going to get a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store. -Max Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun
Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!). On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: 124 Fans, Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in. We found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting at the wide end. At first the technician thought I had bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially). He measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new to be slightly larger than the old. Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links? Car as 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been worked on. The FSM does not mention this. Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require less and less force. I had been trying to press out the bushing the wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part of a pipe). When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring link and which direction to move the bushing. I'm also going to get a piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store. -Max -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com