Re: [MBZ] New Snook Car!
How did they make it work with the DAS system (I think they were using benz DAS keys...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:37, Donald Snook wrote: > Kevin wrote: "Is this the same 3.5L that was used in the Dodge Magnum? It > could be had > with the crappy 2.7L as well." > > Yes, but it has been updated for 2009 and 2010. > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Snook Car!
In 1998 when we moved to Sheboygan Wisconsin I bought one. A prerequisite for living in that part of the state, sort of like Texas. The rub was that I wanted a bare-bones model, with the most basic stuff. One color, rubber floor mats, 2WD, essentially a contractor's truck. Had to go to Milwaukee to find one, as everything on the local dealer's lots were 4WD 9 passenger behemoths with all the swag on them. Sold it for a profit two years later when I moved to Port Washington and had a 60 mile round trip commute. Dan Sent from my iPod On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > I didnt know you used to have a Suburban. > > On 2/8/2011 8:25 PM, LWB250 wrote: >> It's easier than you think. >> >> 1.) Know your price BEFORE you go. Do your research/due diligence. >> >> 2.) Be realistic. The dealer has to make a living, too. >> >> 3.) Most important: Be willing to walk away. >> >> Number three is the most important. Dealers will play on your emotions. >> Being willing to walk no matter what the case is your leverage. If they are >> willing to let you walk, do some more research, as you may not be realistic >> in your price. >> >> I once bought a Chevy Suburban that took four trips to the dealer and over a >> week to close the deal. My last car was $300 away from the price I wanted. >> I got up and walked away. Before I was at the door I had a deal. >> >> I love buying cars - I got the bug from my Dad, who was an executive VP for >> General Motors in the 60s. He always had program cars, but bought cars for >> my Mom. I got to go along and watch/listen. He considered it great sport. >> >> Dan >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3432 - Release Date: 02/09/11 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They found out about the oil consumption when the oil light came on just before it was due for an oil change. I think they are doing 5Kmi oil change intervals. It was 2.5 qts down! I don't think they are using M1 though. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 09/02/2011 4:13 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: My sister has a '05 Magnum, and it's a good runner. It burns a qt of oil every 2Kmi or so, and has done it since new. Hopefully, yours doesn't. Of course, they've most likely fixed that with the updates if it had anything to do with the design. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon So, I have to wonder if it is like the MB and only uses the oil if you fill it to the full mark? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My sister has a '05 Magnum, and it's a good runner. It burns a qt of oil every 2Kmi or so, and has done it since new. Hopefully, yours doesn't. Of course, they've most likely fixed that with the updates if it had anything to do with the design. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What you SHOULD have done, is to keep the Ford as a back up vehicle. Big enough and old enough to be used somewhat informally to haul whatever. Useful when you need a vehicle while you repair one of the daily drivers or while you look for your next car after having sold your current one (which we KNOW you will do). AND of course, great on those miserable winter days when it snows or rains or whatever since it is big, sits high and has 4 wheel drive. PLUS, worth very little and not likely to depreciate a whole lot more unless it really rusts or has some major catastrophic failure. Randy n 09/02/2011 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, you probably did OK. On 2/8/2011 9:12 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own." It was an Expedition (big sucker). I don't think we could have done better, actually. It had 150,000 miles and the ABS light was on. Plus, we got them way down on the Charger and my wife was a master negotiator on the trade. We originally looked at a 2008 Charger. They wanted $16,900 (which is way too much). We got them down to $15,000 and they offered $2500 for the Expedition. I had a dealer friend of mine check the manheim auctions and the Expedition was going for $3000. We couldn't make a deal on the 08 Charger for the $250 payment my wife wanted. So, we called another dealer right from the showroom and found a 2010 for $16,900. They started falling all over themselves to make a deal. Finally they showed us the car we bought. They had it priced at $17,900. Edmunds prices it at $19,000. I think that's a little high. NADA shows $17,900. Kelly Bluebook $19,300. Also, it was a certified used. That doesn't do anything for me immeadiately because its still under factory warranty. But, it increases the powertrain warranty. Anyway, they told us they would sell it for $15,900 and give us $3000 for our Expedition. We said no. My wife was awesome. She kept saying, the payment has to be $250 a month and we won't go longer on the loan. They got it to within $8 and she still said no. We were there for almost 5 hours. Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. I had a potential buyer for my car for $5000. But, I don't think I could have got them down their car if I didn't have a trade. Either way, we feel like we got a great deal. And most importantly, my wife is happy. When she is happy, that means she won't be so eagle-eyed about my cars. So, in other words, she has a nice car and now I can get back to my car buying/selling fun. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I didnt know you used to have a Suburban. On 2/8/2011 8:25 PM, LWB250 wrote: It's easier than you think. 1.) Know your price BEFORE you go. Do your research/due diligence. 2.) Be realistic. The dealer has to make a living, too. 3.) Most important: Be willing to walk away. Number three is the most important. Dealers will play on your emotions. Being willing to walk no matter what the case is your leverage. If they are willing to let you walk, do some more research, as you may not be realistic in your price. I once bought a Chevy Suburban that took four trips to the dealer and over a week to close the deal. My last car was $300 away from the price I wanted. I got up and walked away. Before I was at the door I had a deal. I love buying cars - I got the bug from my Dad, who was an executive VP for General Motors in the 60s. He always had program cars, but bought cars for my Mom. I got to go along and watch/listen. He considered it great sport. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3432 - Release Date: 02/09/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yea, you probably did OK. On 2/8/2011 9:12 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own." It was an Expedition (big sucker). I don't think we could have done better, actually. It had 150,000 miles and the ABS light was on. Plus, we got them way down on the Charger and my wife was a master negotiator on the trade. We originally looked at a 2008 Charger. They wanted $16,900 (which is way too much). We got them down to $15,000 and they offered $2500 for the Expedition. I had a dealer friend of mine check the manheim auctions and the Expedition was going for $3000. We couldn't make a deal on the 08 Charger for the $250 payment my wife wanted. So, we called another dealer right from the showroom and found a 2010 for $16,900. They started falling all over themselves to make a deal. Finally they showed us the car we bought. They had it priced at $17,900. Edmunds prices it at $19,000. I think that's a little high. NADA shows $17,900. Kelly Bluebook $19,300. Also, it was a certified used. That doesn't do anything for me immeadiately because its still under factory warranty. But, it increases the powertrain warranty. Anyway, they told us they would sell it for $15,900 and give us $3000 for our Expedition. We said no. My wife was awesome. She kept saying, the payment has to be $250 a month and we won't go longer on the loan. They got it to within $8 and she still said no. We were there for almost 5 hours. Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. I had a potential buyer for my car for $5000. But, I don't think I could have got them down their car if I didn't have a trade. Either way, we feel like we got a great deal. And most importantly, my wife is happy. When she is happy, that means she won't be so eagle-eyed about my cars. So, in other words, she has a nice car and now I can get back to my car buying/selling fun. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3432 - Release Date: 02/09/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kevin wrote: "Is this the same 3.5L that was used in the Dodge Magnum? It could be had with the crappy 2.7L as well." Yes, but it has been updated for 2009 and 2010. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is this the same 3.5L that was used in the Dodge Magnum? It could be had with the crappy 2.7L as well. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Unfortunately there didn't seem to be any way to do it under Oregon law without becoming a licensed dealer. As a Mediator? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's easier than you think. 1.) Know your price BEFORE you go. Do your research/due diligence. 2.) Be realistic. The dealer has to make a living, too. 3.) Most important: Be willing to walk away. Number three is the most important. Dealers will play on your emotions. Being willing to walk no matter what the case is your leverage. If they are willing to let you walk, do some more research, as you may not be realistic in your price. I once bought a Chevy Suburban that took four trips to the dealer and over a week to close the deal. My last car was $300 away from the price I wanted. I got up and walked away. Before I was at the door I had a deal. I love buying cars - I got the bug from my Dad, who was an executive VP for General Motors in the 60s. He always had program cars, but bought cars for my Mom. I got to go along and watch/listen. He considered it great sport. Dan --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Rich Thomas wrote: > From: Rich Thomas > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Snook Car! > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:21 AM > Damn! I think i want your wife > to go with me on my next car-buying > expedition. > > --R Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex Chamberlain wrote: I once briefly entertained the idea of starting a business as a buyer's agent for car shoppers who didn't want to go through the negotiation process. We have licensed brokers here in Michigan, who are not allowed to take custody of the title, they just negotiate the deal. I can remember reading a tale of somebody who shopped heavily for a car, then let a broker give it a try. The broker came in about $1000 lower, and delivered the car to the buyer's driveway. The buyer couldn't figure out why the dealer refused to come within $1000 of the broker's price after the broker added his fee to the brokerage price from the same dealer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. Sounds like they wanted 15.9 for the Charger to preserve their commission, and the commission structure was such that they could screw the used car manager out of $1400? I wonder if that kills the commission for whoever sells your Ex. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: > Maybe she could be an agent for each of us when needed. > I once briefly entertained the idea of starting a business as a buyer's agent for car shoppers who didn't want to go through the negotiation process. The idea was to charge a flat fee, so that there would be no conflict of interest (as there is with so-called "buyer's agents" in real estate, who are still paid on commission), and guarantee that I would buy the exact car the customer wanted for a given price or less. Unfortunately there didn't seem to be any way to do it under Oregon law without becoming a licensed dealer. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Something you all might be interested in, if you haven't heard of it: http://carwoo.com/ You register, indicate what car you are shopping for, and dealers bid against each other to offer you the best price. I think for free you get three bids, you can pay a fee and you will get more bids. They claim to save an average of $5000 off MSRP. Note, it's for new cars only, at the current time. I have not used it but have heard through the grapevine that people like it. I think most of us on this list are used-car buyers, but for those who might want (or SWMBO wants) a new car, might be worth a try. Allan On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:44 -0500, "WILTON" wrote: > Maybe she could be an agent for each of us when needed. > > Wilton > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe she could be an agent for each of us when needed. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Snook Car! Damn! I think i want your wife to go with me on my next car-buying expedition. --R On 2/8/2011 10:12 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own." It was an Expedition (big sucker). I don't think we could have done better, actually. It had 150,000 miles and the ABS light was on. Plus, we got them way down on the Charger and my wife was a master negotiator on the trade. We originally looked at a 2008 Charger. They wanted $16,900 (which is way too much). We got them down to $15,000 and they offered $2500 for the Expedition. I had a dealer friend of mine check the manheim auctions and the Expedition was going for $3000. We couldn't make a deal on the 08 Charger for the $250 payment my wife wanted. So, we called another dealer right from the showroom and found a 2010 for $16,900. They started falling all over themselves to make a deal. Finally they showed us the car we bought. They had it priced at $17,900. Edmunds prices it at $19,000. I think that's a little high. NADA shows $17,900. Kelly Bluebook $19,300. Also, it was a certified used. That doesn't do anything for me immeadiately because its still under factory warranty. But, it increases the powertrain warranty. Anyway, they told us they would sell it for $15,900 and give us $3000 for our Expedition. We said no. My wife was awesome. She kept saying, the payment has to be $250 a month and we won't go longer on the loan. They got it to within $8 and she still said no. We were there for almost 5 hours. Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. I had a potential buyer for my car for $5000. But, I don't think I could have got them down their car if I didn't have a trade. Either way, we feel like we got a great deal. And most importantly, my wife is happy. When she is happy, that means she won't be so eagle-eyed about my cars. So, in other words, she has a nice car and now I can get back to my car buying/selling fun. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Whew - glad you kept the Benz! How long until we go through this cycle again? Fresh Dibs on next time Donald offer's this E320 for sale? ;) -Max From: Donald Snook To: "Mercedes@okiebenz.com" Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 11:44:15 AM Subject: [MBZ] New Snook Car! We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel Drive. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 100K 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Damn! I think i want your wife to go with me on my next car-buying expedition. --R On 2/8/2011 10:12 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own." It was an Expedition (big sucker). I don't think we could have done better, actually. It had 150,000 miles and the ABS light was on. Plus, we got them way down on the Charger and my wife was a master negotiator on the trade. We originally looked at a 2008 Charger. They wanted $16,900 (which is way too much). We got them down to $15,000 and they offered $2500 for the Expedition. I had a dealer friend of mine check the manheim auctions and the Expedition was going for $3000. We couldn't make a deal on the 08 Charger for the $250 payment my wife wanted. So, we called another dealer right from the showroom and found a 2010 for $16,900. They started falling all over themselves to make a deal. Finally they showed us the car we bought. They had it priced at $17,900. Edmunds prices it at $19,000. I think that's a little high. NADA shows $17,900. Kelly Bluebook $19,300. Also, it was a certified used. That doesn't do anything for me immeadiately because its still under factory warranty. But, it increases the powertrain warranty. Anyway, they told us they would sell it for $15,900 and give us $3000 for our Expedition. We said no. My wife was awesome. She kept saying, the payment has to be $250 a month and we won't go longer on the loan. They got it to within $8 and she still said no. We were there for almost 5 hours. Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. I had a potential buyer for my car for $5000. But, I don't think I could have got them down their car if I didn't have a trade. Either way, we feel like we got a great deal. And most importantly, my wife is happy. When she is happy, that means she won't be so eagle-eyed about my cars. So, in other words, she has a nice car and now I can get back to my car buying/selling fun. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more > selling it on your own." > Of course, but I'm willing to bet Snook's billable rate is high enough that it's not worth it to him to deal with Craigslist tire-kickers ;) Sounds like you got a great deal, Donald. Your wife must enjoy the negotiation game, too, to have spent five hours at the dealer. More power to her! With the economy like it is and new-car sales way down, I think dealers should be lucky if they get anywhere near invoice (or blue book on a used car). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: "You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own." It was an Expedition (big sucker). I don't think we could have done better, actually. It had 150,000 miles and the ABS light was on. Plus, we got them way down on the Charger and my wife was a master negotiator on the trade. We originally looked at a 2008 Charger. They wanted $16,900 (which is way too much). We got them down to $15,000 and they offered $2500 for the Expedition. I had a dealer friend of mine check the manheim auctions and the Expedition was going for $3000. We couldn't make a deal on the 08 Charger for the $250 payment my wife wanted. So, we called another dealer right from the showroom and found a 2010 for $16,900. They started falling all over themselves to make a deal. Finally they showed us the car we bought. They had it priced at $17,900. Edmunds prices it at $19,000. I think that's a little high. NADA shows $17,900. Kelly Bluebook $19,300. Also, it was a certified used. That doesn't do anything for me immeadiately because its still under factory warranty. But, it increases the powertrain warranty. Anyway, they told us they would sell it for $15,900 and give us $3000 for our Expedition. We said no. My wife was awesome. She kept saying, the payment has to be $250 a month and we won't go longer on the loan. They got it to within $8 and she still said no. We were there for almost 5 hours. Finally, they ended up selling their car for $15,900 and giving us $4400 for the expedition. I had a potential buyer for my car for $5000. But, I don't think I could have got them down their car if I didn't have a trade. Either way, we feel like we got a great deal. And most importantly, my wife is happy. When she is happy, that means she won't be so eagle-eyed about my cars. So, in other words, she has a nice car and now I can get back to my car buying/selling fun. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kevin wrote: "What V6 are they using in the 2010 Charger?" They have two of them. The base model is 2.7L. They use it in a bunch of cheap cars. It has lots of problems. The next step up is the 3.5L. In the early Chargers it was rated at less then 250 Hp. But, in the last few years its called the 3.5 High Output and is 250 HP and 250 lb/torque. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My BILs are lawyers and handle some private adoptions sometimes, the kind that the parties wish to keep low-key. They have said these seem to work out quite well as everyone is sorta with the program. But I guess too there is a lot of scamming out there, Wish you the best with your quest. --R On 2/7/2011 11:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote: She probably has no money. Might be able to go after the agency, although they were likely as fooled as everyone else. Sadly, it's probably just one of those things you have to chalk up to bad luck. On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:04 -0500, "Rich Thomas" wrote: You should find a lawyer and sue them --R On 2/7/2011 3:10 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Tim wrote: "Congratulations! Good choice, for you keeping the MB in particular. :) Glad your wife is happy too, of course. Didn't you have a baby on the way or something? Did I miss that?" Thanks. Actually, the adoption fell through. The birthmother was deceiving everyone involved about the who the real father was. It's a long drawn out story. The short version is the Birthmother lied about very important things, and it all crashed down once the baby was born. Of course, we were out in Washington for the birth and the whole process cost us about $10,000. Not good. So, now kid. But, we are still trying to adopt. Maybe now that we have a muscle car, it will work out! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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She probably has no money. Might be able to go after the agency, although they were likely as fooled as everyone else. Sadly, it's probably just one of those things you have to chalk up to bad luck. On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:04 -0500, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > You should find a lawyer and sue them > > --R > > On 2/7/2011 3:10 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > > Tim wrote: "Congratulations! Good choice, for you keeping the MB in > > particular. > > :) Glad your wife is happy too, of course. Didn't you have a baby on the > > way or something? Did I miss that?" > > > > Thanks. Actually, the adoption fell through. The birthmother was > > deceiving everyone involved about the who the real father was. It's a long > > drawn out story. The short version is the Birthmother lied about very > > important things, and it all crashed down once the baby was born. Of > > course, we were out in Washington for the birth and the whole process cost > > us about $10,000. Not good. So, now kid. But, we are still trying to > > adopt. Maybe now that we have a muscle car, it will work out! :) > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You should find a lawyer and sue them --R On 2/7/2011 3:10 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Tim wrote: "Congratulations! Good choice, for you keeping the MB in particular. :) Glad your wife is happy too, of course. Didn't you have a baby on the way or something? Did I miss that?" Thanks. Actually, the adoption fell through. The birthmother was deceiving everyone involved about the who the real father was. It's a long drawn out story. The short version is the Birthmother lied about very important things, and it all crashed down once the baby was born. Of course, we were out in Washington for the birth and the whole process cost us about $10,000. Not good. So, now kid. But, we are still trying to adopt. Maybe now that we have a muscle car, it will work out! :) Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's the plan - as soon as they get kid, they'll have to trade cars, and Mr. Snook will get the Charger. Congratulations on the car, sorry to hear about the adoption-gone-bad. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > > > From: dsn...@mtsqh.com > > So, no kid. But, we are still trying to adopt. Maybe now that we have a > muscle car, it will work out! :) > > You are probably correct on that one. The rear doors and rear seat of a > Charger don't look > particularly rear facing child seat friendly. :<) > > Rick -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> From: dsn...@mtsqh.com > So, no kid. But, we are still trying to adopt. Maybe now that we have a > muscle car, it will work out! :) You are probably correct on that one. The rear doors and rear seat of a Charger don't look particularly rear facing child seat friendly. :<) Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What V6 are they using in the 2010 Charger? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You traded in the Exploder? If so, you could have got way more selling it on your own. On 2/7/2011 10:44 AM, Donald Snook wrote: We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel Drive. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 100K 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy wrote: "It is amazing how possessive a woman can get of a car. My wife has a Honda Accord. I have rarely ever driven it and she gives me a hard time if I ever ask to drive it." My wife was that way when she got the Expedition. But, recently I think she preferred driving my E320 - although she wouldn't admit it. BUT, no matter what car she drives, she is NOT possessive of it when it needs to be washed, or to get gas or is having any problems. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> R A Bennell wrote: > It is amazing how possessive a woman can get of a car. My wife > has a Honda Accord. I have rarely ever driven it and she gives > me a hard time if I ever ask to drive it. I don't have that problem. But I do all the work on all the cars, so she has to behave a little bit. *smiles* --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It is amazing how possessive a woman can get of a car. My wife has a Honda Accord. I have rarely ever driven it and she gives me a hard time if I ever ask to drive it. Randy On 07/02/2011 2:11 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Mao wrote: "I think Snook loves it too. Fat chance you gonna get any seat time in that baby... Good luck..." I do love it and you are right. It will definitely be her car. I have only driven it for a few miles on test drive! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex wrote: "I thought all the Chargers/300s/Magnums had Mercedes transmissions. Chrysler not having had a RWD car on the market for some time before the 300 was introduced, I can't imagine they had a suitable trans of their own (unless they used the one from the 2WD Grand Cherokee?)." You may be right. I am basing my information on internet sources. I think it's the Chrysler 42RLE transmission. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt wrote: "What does it have? My main complaint about all Chrysler cars from the last few years is the sloppy trans..." It is a 4 speed auto - code name 42RLE. Apparently, it is the same tranny in the 300, Dodge Ram pickup, Dakota (2004-present) and a few others. It definitely doesn't feel sloppy. But, it only has 31,000 miles. I have been suspect about the Chrysler transmissions for a while too. But, I thought they had improved them. I heard that a lot of the problems had to do with putting in the wrong fluid. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mao wrote: "I think Snook loves it too. Fat chance you gonna get any seat time in that baby... Good luck..." I do love it and you are right. It will definitely be her car. I have only driven it for a few miles on test drive! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tim wrote: "Congratulations! Good choice, for you keeping the MB in particular. :) Glad your wife is happy too, of course. Didn't you have a baby on the way or something? Did I miss that?" Thanks. Actually, the adoption fell through. The birthmother was deceiving everyone involved about the who the real father was. It's a long drawn out story. The short version is the Birthmother lied about very important things, and it all crashed down once the baby was born. Of course, we were out in Washington for the birth and the whole process cost us about $10,000. Not good. So, now kid. But, we are still trying to adopt. Maybe now that we have a muscle car, it will work out! :) Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think I posted this once here already but I had a student 2 summers ago that had a Charger v6 for a rental and we both agreed it was absolute crap. Everything about it felt cheap, the engine was tuned for very high rpm and was quite buzzy, the steering was soft and unresponsive. But really it was the transmission that made us hate it, stomp on the gas, the engine revs up and at some mystical point in the future the transmission passes that to the ground. It was difficult to predict when that time would be... A friend owns a v8 Charger of similar vintage (a year older I think) and its a whole different car, different interior, better sounding engine but still the crap transmission. My '96 Dakota had a good, tight feeling transmission even when it had 200,000+ miles on it. When we were replacing it we test drove an '05 Dakota, forget that POS, same complaint as above. The Ranger's transmission is great. -Curt Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:42:25 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Snook Car! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > What does it have? My main complaint about all Chrysler cars from the last > few years is the sloppy trans... > I thought all the Chargers/300s/Magnums had Mercedes transmissions. Chrysler not having had a RWD car on the market for some time before the 300 was introduced, I can't imagine they had a suitable trans of their own (unless they used the one from the 2WD Grand Cherokee?). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > What does it have? My main complaint about all Chrysler cars from the last > few years is the sloppy trans... > I thought all the Chargers/300s/Magnums had Mercedes transmissions. Chrysler not having had a RWD car on the market for some time before the 300 was introduced, I can't imagine they had a suitable trans of their own (unless they used the one from the 2WD Grand Cherokee?). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are these the ones that I often see locally painted black and silver? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] New Snook Car! We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel Drive. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 100K 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What does it have? My main complaint about all Chrysler cars from the last few years is the sloppy trans... -Curt Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:44:15 -0600 From: Donald Snook To: "'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'" Subject: [MBZ] New Snook Car! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel Drive. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 100K 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Snook wrote: > My wife loves it. > I think Snook loves it too. Fat chance you gonna get any seat time in that baby... Good luck... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Congratulations! Good choice, for you keeping the MB in particular. :) Glad your wife is happy too, of course. Didn't you have a baby on the way or something? Did I miss that? -Tim On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's > collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. > Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but > we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 > miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. > > I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear > suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that > this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes > transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel > Drive. > > Donald H. Snook > 1995 Mercedes E320 100K > 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have a new (to us) car and I still have the Mercedes. I took the list's collective advice and traded off the Expedition for a Dodge Charger. Mrs. Snook is VERY happy. We thought we were going to buy a 2008 Charger SE, but we ended up making a better deal on a 2010 Charger SXT with only 31,000 miles. It is a VERY nice car. My wife loves it. I was surprised about how many components are Mercedes parts - front and rear suspension, steering column, and various other parts. The one thing that this one doesn't have that I wished for was the 5 -speed Mercedes transmission. On the non-hemi Chargers, the 5speed only comes with All Wheel Drive. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 100K 2010 Dodge Charger SXT (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
