Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I bought some a couple of years ago at Bass Pro Shop. It's not all that quiet - - - On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:48 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > I think all the sub sonic rounds got used up at the traveling carnivals. > Shipmate has a collection of old .22 short rifles from the midway and a few > cases of ammo. He is saving it to pay his grandkids college tuition. > Pretty rare stuff that fetches a high price. > > clay > > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I think all the sub sonic rounds got used up at the traveling carnivals. Shipmate has a collection of old .22 short rifles from the midway and a few cases of ammo. He is saving it to pay his grandkids college tuition. Pretty rare stuff that fetches a high price. clay On Mar 18, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I have my Dad's Benjamin .177 pellet pistol, and with maybe 10 pumps it will > do as much damage as a subsonic .22 round at relatively close range. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I usedta shoot pigeons off the edge of the eaves (hidden gutter) areas, >> maybe 35 to 40 feet, and up on the widow's walk rail, maybe 65-70 feet or >> so, with a Crossman pellet gun. 'Haven't had to do it for several (7 or 8) >> years (went through the generations, I guess, so there's none of 'em coming >> back home). May tremor was bad then, and SWMBO was amazed that I could hit >> anything - no tremor when I'd hold the gun against as tree to aim and fire. >> 'Could see the puff of feathers when the pellet struck; 'sometimes, if I >> pumped it up a little more, I could see a puff of feathers on the backside >> to indicate exiting pellet. I was always lucky enough that the bird could >> still fly enough to "clear" the house and crash in the yard near me for >> burial. >> >> Wilton >> >> ----- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog >> >> >>> I was looking for some subsonic .22 ammo to pop squirrels but couldn't find >>> any around. What else might be good? I want to get them out to maybe >>> 50-75ft but don't want too much travel after that. The pellet gun is OK in >>> that regard but it is a cheap one and the scope is always getting out of >>> line so I spend more time screwing with it than actually shooting squirrels. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/17/15 9:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >>>> Hear here! That is the way it is done. >>>> >>>> I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey >>>> won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, >>>> but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a >>>> round ball. >>>> >>>> Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. >>>> >>>>> I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept >>>>> telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if >>>>> that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really >>>>> just hiring out the killing. >>>>> A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter >>>>> people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered >>>>> to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his >>>>> attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to >>>>> shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they >>>>> were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he >>>>> and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what >>>>> was going on. >>>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
For small birds .22 birdshot works well, again not enough power to damage buildings. Crimped packages, not the sabots. Those suck. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Droll. Very. On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > What do they eat? >> > > I hear they like slugs. .22 would be my guess. :-) > > -- Jim > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
What do they eat? I hear they like slugs. .22 would be my guess. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
The Youtube guy said PB&J is irresistible bait to critters susch as raccoons and ground hogs and their ilk On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > An opened can of sardines in a cage trap works for possums and raccoons. > Some people use poison peanut bits obtainable in a cone shaped container > from Home Depot or Walmarts for smaller underground animals that chew on > underground electric cable. It's reasonably humane since death from > internal bleeding is fairly fast and not extremely painful; probably more > humane than slow death from natural causes. Don't know if groundhogs would > eat peanuts. > Gerry > > Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > > >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > > >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such > an > > >animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under > the > > >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > > >know what to bait it with. > > > > > > 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean > > and gut it too. > > 20 Ga works well > > .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. > > > > Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli > > should work well. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > - > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9325 - Release Date: 03/17/15 > > > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
An opened can of sardines in a cage trap works for possums and raccoons. Some people use poison peanut bits obtainable in a cone shaped container from Home Depot or Walmarts for smaller underground animals that chew on underground electric cable. It's reasonably humane since death from internal bleeding is fairly fast and not extremely painful; probably more humane than slow death from natural causes. Don't know if groundhogs would eat peanuts. Gerry Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an > >animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the > >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > >know what to bait it with. > > > 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean > and gut it too. > 20 Ga works well > .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. > > Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli > should work well. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9325 - Release Date: 03/17/15 > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I have my Dad's Benjamin .177 pellet pistol, and with maybe 10 pumps it will do as much damage as a subsonic .22 round at relatively close range. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote: > > I usedta shoot pigeons off the edge of the eaves (hidden gutter) areas, maybe > 35 to 40 feet, and up on the widow's walk rail, maybe 65-70 feet or so, with > a Crossman pellet gun. 'Haven't had to do it for several (7 or 8) years > (went through the generations, I guess, so there's none of 'em coming back > home). May tremor was bad then, and SWMBO was amazed that I could hit > anything - no tremor when I'd hold the gun against as tree to aim and fire. > 'Could see the puff of feathers when the pellet struck; 'sometimes, if I > pumped it up a little more, I could see a puff of feathers on the backside to > indicate exiting pellet. I was always lucky enough that the bird could still > fly enough to "clear" the house and crash in the yard near me for burial. > > Wilton > > - Original Message ----- From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog > > >> I was looking for some subsonic .22 ammo to pop squirrels but couldn't find >> any around. What else might be good? I want to get them out to maybe >> 50-75ft but don't want too much travel after that. The pellet gun is OK in >> that regard but it is a cheap one and the scope is always getting out of >> line so I spend more time screwing with it than actually shooting squirrels. >> >> --R >> >> >> >>> On 3/17/15 9:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >>> Hear here! That is the way it is done. >>> >>> I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey >>> won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, >>> but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a >>> round ball. >>> >>> Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. >>> >>>> I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept >>>> telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if >>>> that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really >>>> just hiring out the killing. >>>> A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter >>>> people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered >>>> to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic >>>> stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 >>>> adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were >>>> getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and >>>> the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was >>>> going on. >>>> -Curt >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I usedta shoot pigeons off the edge of the eaves (hidden gutter) areas, maybe 35 to 40 feet, and up on the widow's walk rail, maybe 65-70 feet or so, with a Crossman pellet gun. 'Haven't had to do it for several (7 or 8) years (went through the generations, I guess, so there's none of 'em coming back home). May tremor was bad then, and SWMBO was amazed that I could hit anything - no tremor when I'd hold the gun against as tree to aim and fire. 'Could see the puff of feathers when the pellet struck; 'sometimes, if I pumped it up a little more, I could see a puff of feathers on the backside to indicate exiting pellet. I was always lucky enough that the bird could still fly enough to "clear" the house and crash in the yard near me for burial. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog I was looking for some subsonic .22 ammo to pop squirrels but couldn't find any around. What else might be good? I want to get them out to maybe 50-75ft but don't want too much travel after that. The pellet gun is OK in that regard but it is a cheap one and the scope is always getting out of line so I spend more time screwing with it than actually shooting squirrels. --R On 3/17/15 9:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Hear here! That is the way it is done. I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a round ball. Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really just hiring out the killing. A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Hard to find any 22 shells anywhere. Yesterday I saw a hardware store had a few boxes at $10/50 I used to get 500 for $10, so I am not willing to pay $10 a box. Try old line gun shops, gunsmiths. If you have any around. These guys used to have BB and CB pre-obummer. I don't know about now. You can try. (319) 372-2792 I was looking for some subsonic .22 ammo to pop squirrels but couldn't find any around. What else might be good? I want to get them out to maybe 50-75ft but don't want too much travel after that. The pellet gun is OK in that regard but it is a cheap one and the scope is always getting out of line so I spend more time screwing with it than actually shooting squirrels. --R On 3/17/15 9:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Hear here! That is the way it is done. I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a round ball. Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really just hiring out the killing. A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I was looking for some subsonic .22 ammo to pop squirrels but couldn't find any around. What else might be good? I want to get them out to maybe 50-75ft but don't want too much travel after that. The pellet gun is OK in that regard but it is a cheap one and the scope is always getting out of line so I spend more time screwing with it than actually shooting squirrels. --R On 3/17/15 9:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Hear here! That is the way it is done. I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a round ball. Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really just hiring out the killing. A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Then Andrew better stay in DC! ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Relocated animals seldom survive, > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:01 PM >> To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog >> >> Well, I lack the indignation to want to do it harm since the groundhog > hasn't >> wrecked my yard YET. I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> A pellet gun would do the job real well, be real quiet and won't be >>> terribly dangerous in a small backyard.I popped a ground hog right in >>> the head last summer, it didn't kill him but I rang his bell well >>> enough that that he took off and hasn't come back. That was just a >>> cheap 10 pump Crossman, effective range maybe 30-40 feet, anything >>> beyond that its really slowing down, you can watch the pellet arch > through >> the air. >>> I've got a B3 Chinese pellet gun thats a little more powerful than the >>> Crossman and its a single pump which is nice. I need to work on the >>> rear sight some and clean it up some so it makes more power. Dad gave >>> it to me, he bought it at an auction for $16 so it is what it is. For >>> $200 you can buy a really nice gun that'll fix ground hogs easy. >>> -Curt >>> >>> From: Curly McLain via Mercedes >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog >>> >>>> A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just >>>> outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to >>>> such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? >>>> Burrow under >>> the >>>> deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but >>>> don't know what to bait it with. >>> >>> >>> 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean and >>> gut it too. >>> 20 Ga works well >>> .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. >>> >>> Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli >>> should work well. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ma >>> ilman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ma >>> ilman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailm >> an/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Relocated animals seldom survive, > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:01 PM > To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog > > Well, I lack the indignation to want to do it harm since the groundhog hasn't > wrecked my yard YET. I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > A pellet gun would do the job real well, be real quiet and won't be > > terribly dangerous in a small backyard.I popped a ground hog right in > > the head last summer, it didn't kill him but I rang his bell well > > enough that that he took off and hasn't come back. That was just a > > cheap 10 pump Crossman, effective range maybe 30-40 feet, anything > > beyond that its really slowing down, you can watch the pellet arch through > the air. > > I've got a B3 Chinese pellet gun thats a little more powerful than the > > Crossman and its a single pump which is nice. I need to work on the > > rear sight some and clean it up some so it makes more power. Dad gave > > it to me, he bought it at an auction for $16 so it is what it is. For > > $200 you can buy a really nice gun that'll fix ground hogs easy. > > -Curt > > > > From: Curly McLain via Mercedes > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog > > > > >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > > >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to > > >such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? > > >Burrow under > > the > > >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but > > >don't know what to bait it with. > > > > > > 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean and > > gut it too. > > 20 Ga works well > > .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. > > > > Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli > > should work well. > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ma > > ilman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ma > > ilman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailm > an/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
IIRC BB caps have now powder and CB caps have just a little. For small birds .22 birdshot works well, again not enough power to damage buildings. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog Hear here! That is the way it is done. I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a round ball. Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. >I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I >kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard >and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she >was really just hiring out the killing. >A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. >Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove >them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat >at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. >Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two >hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them >and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the >day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. >-Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Hear here! That is the way it is done. I used to use CB caps and BB caps to get rid of pidgeons in the barn. THey won't go through the roof, but eliminated pests. CB looks like a short, but basically has no powder, just the primer. The BB is shorter and has a round ball. Andrew needs to grow a set and eliminate pests. I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really just hiring out the killing. A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Do that, and it will probably be home before you. I would not wish a ground hog on anyone. They cause dams to wash out, ruin buildings, cause underground washouts that swallow tractors, and all kinds of other mischief.I sure ould not take it to property that my taxes will have to repair. Now if you haul it to newyawk and plant it in Billybob's yard, that might be entertaining. We'd probably hear a story about how a car with 2 drunk SS men was swallowed up in a hole caused by a groundhawg. Or how the groundhawg ate the server with all pillary's secret emails. Andrew Strasfogel sez: Well, I lack the indignation to want to do it harm since the groundhog hasn't wrecked my yard YET. I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I had a co-worker who was a bleeding heart and talked about that. I kept telling her that the thing would just find somebody else's yard and if that somebody else was like me it'd get killed there. So she was really just hiring out the killing. A college friend had squirrels in his attic a couple years ago. Critter people wanted something like $20 each to trap and remove them. I offered to "remove" them for a case of his homebrew. I sat at the top of his attic stairs with a flashlight and my pellet gun. Took about 2 hours to shoot 2 adults and 4 juveniles. Another two hours to find the holes they were getting in through and fix them and he's been all set. Made sure he and the family were gone for the day so the wife and kids find out what was going on. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog Well, I lack the indignation to want to do it harm since the groundhog hasn't wrecked my yard YET. I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: A pellet gun would do the job real well, be real quiet and won't be terribly dangerous in a small backyard.I popped a ground hog right in the head last summer, it didn't kill him but I rang his bell well enough that that he took off and hasn't come back. That was just a cheap 10 pump Crossman, effective range maybe 30-40 feet, anything beyond that its really slowing down, you can watch the pellet arch through the air. I've got a B3 Chinese pellet gun thats a little more powerful than the Crossman and its a single pump which is nice. I need to work on the rear sight some and clean it up some so it makes more power. Dad gave it to me, he bought it at an auction for $16 so it is what it is. For $200 you can buy a really nice gun that'll fix ground hogs easy. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an >animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't >know what to bait it with. 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean and gut it too. 20 Ga works well .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli should work well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Andrew wrote: > I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. That will raise your taxes. Park maintenance will need to increase and your assessment will go up. Death is a good thing, however that happens. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Well, I lack the indignation to want to do it harm since the groundhog hasn't wrecked my yard YET. I'll trap and relocate it on county park land. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A pellet gun would do the job real well, be real quiet and won't be > terribly dangerous in a small backyard.I popped a ground hog right in the > head last summer, it didn't kill him but I rang his bell well enough that > that he took off and hasn't come back. That was just a cheap 10 pump > Crossman, effective range maybe 30-40 feet, anything beyond that its really > slowing down, you can watch the pellet arch through the air. > I've got a B3 Chinese pellet gun thats a little more powerful than the > Crossman and its a single pump which is nice. I need to work on the rear > sight some and clean it up some so it makes more power. Dad gave it to me, > he bought it at an auction for $16 so it is what it is. For $200 you can > buy a really nice gun that'll fix ground hogs easy. > -Curt > > From: Curly McLain via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog > > >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an > >animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under > the > >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > >know what to bait it with. > > > 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean > and gut it too. > 20 Ga works well > .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. > > Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli > should work well. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
A pellet gun would do the job real well, be real quiet and won't be terribly dangerous in a small backyard.I popped a ground hog right in the head last summer, it didn't kill him but I rang his bell well enough that that he took off and hasn't come back. That was just a cheap 10 pump Crossman, effective range maybe 30-40 feet, anything beyond that its really slowing down, you can watch the pellet arch through the air. I've got a B3 Chinese pellet gun thats a little more powerful than the Crossman and its a single pump which is nice. I need to work on the rear sight some and clean it up some so it makes more power. Dad gave it to me, he bought it at an auction for $16 so it is what it is. For $200 you can buy a really nice gun that'll fix ground hogs easy. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog >A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just >outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an >animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the >deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't >know what to bait it with. 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean and gut it too. 20 Ga works well .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli should work well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
GMann sez: U... I believe Andrew lives in the "it's illegal to own a gun zone" called Washington DC... I can only imagine the issues it would cause to dispatch said varmet with a Joe Biden recommended 12 gage from your porch, or a nice black bushmaster with a 30 round magazine.. [OMG.. the horror]. On the other hand.. he might make a lot of "new friends" in prison.. Get some veggies and a trap.. then call for disposal... If you saw one.. there are others not far away.. His political environment only adds to the entertainment. Lotsa kmart blue light specials, suited up popos, armored cars, machine guns, the whole package. all for a rodent. I you catch one in the trap, fill a garbage can with water and slide the trap in. Take the drowned rodent out, field dress it, and take it down to the white house servant's entrance. Somebody will make it into sweet sour.(tastes just like chicken) Andrew, if you find the hole, they sell smoke bombs that suffocate the hog in the the hole. Automatic burial. No muss, no fuss. You need to find the main entrance, the emergency entrance, and any other entrances. Cover them at dusk, when the critter(s) are in the hole, plug the extra exits; light and shove the smoke bomb in the hole, and cover with dirt/rocks. check it the next day. if all entrances are closed, and no new ones, you got it. done. You need to have the shovel ready before you light it off. You can't breathe the smoke, or you will end up like you want the hog to end up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
U... I believe Andrew lives in the "it's illegal to own a gun zone" called Washington DC... I can only imagine the issues it would cause to dispatch said varmet with a Joe Biden recommended 12 gage from your porch, or a nice black bushmaster with a 30 round magazine.. [OMG.. the horror]. On the other hand.. he might make a lot of "new friends" in prison.. Get some veggies and a trap.. then call for disposal... If you saw one.. there are others not far away.. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:16 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Andrew wrote: > > > > A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio > > just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first > > exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my > > foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? > > WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it > > with. > > Ground hogs - or woodchucks - eat plants. They have made a big > mess of my garden. They typically are very cautious and shy, so > trapping or shooting them is a bit tricky. > > The dig like a tunnel making machine, and once gone, those tunnels > can be used by rats, foxes, rabbits, etc. > > I know how hard it is to dig in the rocky soil here - and yet they > seem to dig in it readily. > > If I didn't have a garden, I might ignore them - but I don't let > them stay around here. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
> Andrew wrote: > > A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio > just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first > exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my > foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? > WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it > with. Ground hogs - or woodchucks - eat plants. They have made a big mess of my garden. They typically are very cautious and shy, so trapping or shooting them is a bit tricky. The dig like a tunnel making machine, and once gone, those tunnels can be used by rats, foxes, rabbits, etc. I know how hard it is to dig in the rocky soil here - and yet they seem to dig in it readily. If I didn't have a garden, I might ignore them - but I don't let them stay around here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Andrew needs a Bushmaster, one of the really scary-looking black ones. Scary! --R On 3/17/15 5:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: They like veggies, esp sweet corn. They will go through a corn patch in one night, pulling down every stalk, taking one bit from each ear, moving to the next. This is why Mr.s Remington, Browning, Mossberg and their other friends are good groundhog eliminators. --R You left out Messrs winchester, Savage (old 24 is my choice) Smith, Springfield, Colt, Wesson, ruger and all the new names. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
They like veggies, esp sweet corn. They will go through a corn patch in one night, pulling down every stalk, taking one bit from each ear, moving to the next. This is why Mr.s Remington, Browning, Mossberg and their other friends are good groundhog eliminators. --R You left out Messrs winchester, Savage (old 24 is my choice) Smith, Springfield, Colt, Wesson, ruger and all the new names. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it with. 12 ga slug works incredibly well. If placed right, It will clean and gut it too. 20 Ga works well .22 is less likely to have the neighbors calling the popos. Bait the havahart with PB, apples, or greens of any sort. Broccoli should work well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. --R elimination is the only good solution. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Maybe you should offer some of your hot pepper jelly? That might discourage them from eating on your property. RB On 17/03/2015 3:31 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: You could house it in the back of one of your TD's. On Mar 17, 2015 4:29 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Also sweet corn, strawberries, PB&J, and ripe cantaloupe! They prefer to eat bait off fine china using sterling silver utensils (not silver plated), quaffing vintage bordeaux out of crystal stemware. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Google says raw broccoli is EXCELLENT bait. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel < astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote: ROFLMAO. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no fix for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. After all what are friends for? Hahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Uh Oh! Call the Realtor. Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. RB On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Andrew, They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will soon have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of your foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack them as they shift... Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and pet them for you.. your choice... Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
You could house it in the back of one of your TD's. On Mar 17, 2015 4:29 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Also sweet corn, strawberries, PB&J, and ripe cantaloupe! > > They prefer to eat bait off fine china using sterling silver utensils (not > silver plated), quaffing vintage bordeaux out of crystal stemware. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > Google says raw broccoli is EXCELLENT bait. > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel < > astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> ROFLMAO. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no > >>> fix for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for > free. > >>> After all what are friends for? Hahaha! > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Uh Oh! > >>> > Call the Realtor. > >>> > Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. > >>> > > >>> > RB > >>> > > >>> >> On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >>> >> Andrew, > >>> >> They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will > >>> soon > >>> >> have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any > crawl > >>> >> space under your house will represent safe haven for their den > exits. > >>> >> > >>> >> Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things > >>> like > >>> >> ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of > >>> your > >>> >> foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water > >>> which > >>> >> then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then > >>> crack > >>> >> them as they shift... > >>> >> > >>> >> Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed > >>> and > >>> >> pet them for you.. your choice... > >>> >> > >>> >> Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ___ > >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> > > >>> > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> > >>> > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
They like veggies, esp sweet corn. They will go through a corn patch in one night, pulling down every stalk, taking one bit from each ear, moving to the next. This is why Mr.s Remington, Browning, Mossberg and their other friends are good groundhog eliminators. --R On 3/17/15 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Google says raw broccoli is EXCELLENT bait. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: ROFLMAO. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no fix for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. After all what are friends for? Hahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Uh Oh! Call the Realtor. Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. RB On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Andrew, They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will soon have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of your foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack them as they shift... Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and pet them for you.. your choice... Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Also sweet corn, strawberries, PB&J, and ripe cantaloupe! They prefer to eat bait off fine china using sterling silver utensils (not silver plated), quaffing vintage bordeaux out of crystal stemware. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Google says raw broccoli is EXCELLENT bait. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >> ROFLMAO. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no >>> fix for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. >>> After all what are friends for? Hahaha! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Uh Oh! >>> > Call the Realtor. >>> > Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. >>> > >>> > RB >>> > >>> >> On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >>> >> Andrew, >>> >> They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will >>> soon >>> >> have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl >>> >> space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. >>> >> >>> >> Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things >>> like >>> >> ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of >>> your >>> >> foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water >>> which >>> >> then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then >>> crack >>> >> them as they shift... >>> >> >>> >> Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed >>> and >>> >> pet them for you.. your choice... >>> >> >>> >> Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Google says raw broccoli is EXCELLENT bait. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > ROFLMAO. > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no fix >> for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. After >> all what are friends for? Hahaha! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Uh Oh! >> > Call the Realtor. >> > Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. >> > >> > RB >> > >> >> On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >> >> Andrew, >> >> They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will >> soon >> >> have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl >> >> space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. >> >> >> >> Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things >> like >> >> ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of >> your >> >> foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which >> >> then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then >> crack >> >> them as they shift... >> >> >> >> Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed >> and >> >> pet them for you.. your choice... >> >> >> >> Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
ROFLMAO. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no fix > for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. After > all what are friends for? Hahaha! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Uh Oh! > > Call the Realtor. > > Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. > > > > RB > > > >> On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >> Andrew, > >> They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will > soon > >> have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl > >> space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. > >> > >> Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like > >> ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of > your > >> foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which > >> then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack > >> them as they shift... > >> > >> Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and > >> pet them for you.. your choice... > >> > >> Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
You have a very serious problem. A groundhog infestation. There is no fix for that I'm afraid. I will take your house off your hands for free. After all what are friends for? Hahaha! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Uh Oh! > Call the Realtor. > Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. > > RB > >> On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >> Andrew, >> They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will soon >> have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl >> space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. >> >> Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like >> ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of your >> foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which >> then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack >> them as they shift... >> >> Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and >> pet them for you.. your choice... >> >> Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Uh Oh! Call the Realtor. Get the For Sale sign on the lawn quickly before the house caves in. RB On 17/03/2015 2:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Andrew, They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will soon have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of your foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack them as they shift... Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and pet them for you.. your choice... Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Andrew, They are group animals. If you have one, and a food source, you will soon have more. They will burrow your entire yard is left alone., any crawl space under your house will represent safe haven for their den exits. Being ground animals, they collect the usual accumulation of things like ticks and fleas, while their tunnels will weaken the substructure of your foundation. When it rains, those tunnels provide a path for water which then will soften the soil compaction under your foundations.. then crack them as they shift... Or.. you could call your local PETA people and ask them to come feed and pet them for you.. your choice... Trap, and eliminate, would be the prudent choice, in my opinion. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What should I bait the trap with? > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > And they drive pretty good for quadrupeds. > > > > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. > > Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. > > They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, > > and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. > > > > > > --R > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > >> A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > > >> outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to > such > > an > > >> animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow > under > > the > > >> deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but > don't > > >> know what to bait it with. > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
I would rather ge a first hand report. It's so much more satisfying. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > > Ask Google what they eat. > > RB > > > On 17/03/2015 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> What should I bait the trap with? >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> And they drive pretty good for quadrupeds. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. >>> Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. >>> They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, >>> and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. >>> --R On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such > an >>> animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under > the >>> deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > know what to bait it with. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ >>> mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ >>> mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ >>> mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ >> mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Ask Google what they eat. RB On 17/03/2015 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What should I bait the trap with? On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And they drive pretty good for quadrupeds. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. --R On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
What should I bait the trap with? On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And they drive pretty good for quadrupeds. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. > Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. > They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, > and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. > > > > --R > > > > > > > >> On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > >> outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such > an > >> animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under > the > >> deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > >> know what to bait it with. > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
And they drive pretty good for quadrupeds. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. Best > to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. They > like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, and can > tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. > > --R > > > >> On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just >> outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an >> animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the >> deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't >> know what to bait it with. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
They will tear up the entire garden to get one bite from every plant. Best to either trap it and move it, or effect a more permanent solution. They like burrowing up under buildings too, esp near a good food supply, and can tear up your foundation. And they breed like, well, groundhogs. --R On 3/17/15 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
Thanks. I ha a mini-garden last year (tomato and pepper plants) but only insects disturbed the plants (tomato hornworm) On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Jon Agne wrote: > They’re basically harmless unless you plant a garden every year (They love > the new sprouts). You shouldn’t let them burrow next to your house, and > they can be persuaded to move elsewhere by throwing mothball in the > entry/egress points. > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > > outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such > an > > animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under > the > > deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > > know what to bait it with. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
They’re basically harmless unless you plant a garden every year (They love the new sprouts). You shouldn’t let them burrow next to your house, and they can be persuaded to move elsewhere by throwing mothball in the entry/egress points. > On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just > outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an > animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the > deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't > know what to bait it with. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Advice sought re: jumbo Eastern ground hog
A large ground hog was spotted sunning him/herself on the patio just outside my dining room sliding door. This is my first exposure to such an animal. What should I do? Will it dig up my foundation? Burrow under the deck? Eat all the earthworms? WTF. I have a haveaheart trap but don't know what to bait it with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
