Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
Might as well establish myself as a full fledged nutter. On my farm we've got a little camp. The camp has an outhouse which is nearing unusable because the hole is about full. This summer I did an experiment in humanure. Basically you do your business in a bucket that has a layer of sawdust in it. When you've made your deposit you cover with more sawdust. The sawdust magically makes it not smell (for real). Once the bucket is full you put the contents in your compost pile. 3 years later its totally composted and free of any potentially dangerous pathogens that might have been in your gut (as opposed to any potentially dangerous pathogens naturally present in the soil). As I say we've only made one experiement, my wife and I used the bucket for about 3 days. We're working on planting trees so I figure the compost could be put to good use... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:30:04 -0800 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics Charge To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed got to do something with all the feces too. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 15:08:40 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.197]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EewEi-0002TP-Pc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:08:40 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1603466nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hnzv4bcRoJO/nTan/RpvfJRPNrPBDVEOufZBzXdJ3vxaIwWT+nzF0LnV+r/pz/wmSM0xALPEdnqYJTZstG4cgaj0lveY4+i+vPUD5bWxXVddlqu9OqYOyMpWaQbIn2CJX9V8vZfGq6irNiPW1HOxqlcctbXFn7h85pLXfAcSKTk= Received: by 10.36.247.9 with SMTP id u9mr1759984nzh; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.106.10 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:08:37 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.2 engine/tranny X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:08:41 - OK, with Kaleb and Marshall against me the handwriting is on the wall. I recant. On 11/22/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats my thought. Marshall Booth wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Kaleb, I for one really enjoy these car links but it would be even better if you could combine several into one posting. Just my 2 cents. Why? I like dozens of different headers - each one can be searched for in my data base! Almost worthless if the subject line is A LOT OF USED CARS! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
you could make biogas and, with some fiddling, use it like propane in a gas engine. Biogas is very widespread on a small scale in India and China. Human feces has been used in China as a fertilizer for 4,000 years. Composting is better becuase it can kill pathogens if hot enough (and compost done right can get quite hot). Also, plenty of places sell composting toilets so you don't need a bucket. :-) And if you want crap - diesel...mix it with the turkey guts in Carthage. Chris Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you put it in a tank you could probably brew some kind of something that would run your diesel. --R Curt Raymond wrote: Might as well establish myself as a full fledged nutter. On my farm we've got a little camp. The camp has an outhouse which is nearing unusable because the hole is about full. This summer I did an experiment in humanure. Basically you do your business in a bucket that has a layer of sawdust in it. When you've made your deposit you cover with more sawdust. The sawdust magically makes it not smell (for real). Once the bucket is full you put the contents in your compost pile. 3 years later its totally composted and free of any potentially dangerous pathogens that might have been in your gut (as opposed to any potentially dangerous pathogens naturally present in the soil). As I say we've only made one experiement, my wife and I used the bucket for about 3 days. We're working on planting trees so I figure the compost could be put to good use... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:30:04 -0800 From: redghost Subject: Re: [MBZ] Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics Charge To: Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed got to do something with all the feces too. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 15:26:51 2005 Received: from mta13.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EewWJ-0004XI-DF for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:26:51 + Received: from your03667082de ([68.233.126.219]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:23:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:26:51 - Marshal is reported to have said All the books in the world are MEANINGLESS. They are AVERAGES and the car presented is NOT at all average. The car is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. If you bought an average 300TD and put new leather in it, re-did the AC system and done all that's been done to THAT car, you'd have at least $10k in it. Not unreasonable for the
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
Done. :) Lee On Wed Nov 23 07:03:22 PST 2005, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might as well establish myself as a full fledged nutter.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
Composting toilets, from what I've seen are usually a sham. They cook the uhh, deposit, down to ash which is then technically a toxic waste... Composting, as I'm sure you know, happens out in the open with air and microbes involved. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 you could make biogas and, with some fiddling, use it like propane in a gas engine. Biogas is very widespread on a small scale in India and China. Human feces has been used in China as a fertilizer for 4,000 years. Composting is better becuase it can kill pathogens if hot enough (and compost done right can get quite hot). Also, plenty of places sell composting toilets so you don't need a bucket. :-) And if you want crap - diesel...mix it with the turkey guts in Carthage. Chris - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 16:03:20 2005 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eex5b-0008Hj-45 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:03:19 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id 5.204.e636d33 (4254) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:05 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:05 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 2340 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] MB 1988 190E Driver's Door Lock Broken X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:03:23 - Hi all, This morning it was our first below freezing day in the New York City area. This freeze followed rain and all the locks froze on our cars. Problem is something must have snapped in the driver's side door lock of my son's 1988 190E. He said when he went to get in the lock it wouldn't work. It turns freely both ways and doesn't work. The lock does go up and down when the key is used on the passenger's side. Any suggestions Is there any part I should get before taking the panel off the door? Is the panel removal a difficult job. Any help would be greatly appreciated again! Bob Koziak 1990 300E 87K 1983 300D 114K 1988 190E 126K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
Uhh, no! You're a couple generations out-of-date: http://www.compostingtoilet.org/ Ron Dwelle On Nov 23, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Composting toilets, from what I've seen are usually a sham. They cook the uhh, deposit, down to ash which is then technically a toxic waste... Composting, as I'm sure you know, happens out in the open with air and microbes involved.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
wondered how composting toilets actually work - never looked into them. Chinese don't really compost either - they just dump SHO (straight human waste) into the paddies. Unless they are using it for biogas, in which case they use underground digesters, usually. Chris Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Composting toilets, from what I've seen are usually a sham. They cook the uhh, deposit, down to ash which is then technically a toxic waste... Composting, as I'm sure you know, happens out in the open with air and microbes involved. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics To: Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 you could make biogas and, with some fiddling, use it like propane in a gas engine. Biogas is very widespread on a small scale in India and China. Human feces has been used in China as a fertilizer for 4,000 years. Composting is better becuase it can kill pathogens if hot enough (and compost done right can get quite hot). Also, plenty of places sell composting toilets so you don't need a bucket. :-) And if you want crap - diesel...mix it with the turkey guts in Carthage. Chris - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 17:09:04 2005 Received: from mail3.ttlc.net ([66.94.32.26] helo=star.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eey7E-0007CC-Ny for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:09:04 + Received: from MOOSE.star.net [199.232.114.201] by star.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A2299566006E; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:08:57 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@venus.star.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:08:42 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Broken door lock X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:09:05 - Hi, All. My 87 190DT had a broken door handle lock assy. It was the one with the alarm contacts and the very end of the door handle assembly's lock, the tang broke off, fatigue, I think. One socket grub screw to remove and the handle comes out. (With some wiggling). I also removed and lubricated the actual door lock itself, thinking that 18 year old grease was like glue, it was! Cost, at the stealers was about $150 with one key. Ouch! Hope this helps. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
hmm, interesting. Self Acting Earth Closet. Chris Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhh, no! You're a couple generations out-of-date: http://www.compostingtoilet.org/ Ron Dwelle On Nov 23, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Composting toilets, from what I've seen are usually a sham. They cook the uhh, deposit, down to ash which is then technically a toxic waste... Composting, as I'm sure you know, happens out in the open with air and microbes involved. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 17:43:14 2005 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EeyeI-0001n5-Pu for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:43:14 + Received: from elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.45]) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EeyeG-0001Qt-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:43:12 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:43:11 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 280 SEL 4.5L ignition problem X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:43:15 - You will always have battery voltage at the coil on a 4.5 ignition -- the coil is grounded by the swtichbox and the coil itself is awyas hot. On a direct point ignition, the coil will show battery voltage when the points are closed and 0V when they are opened. The resistor(s) are there to limit the current flow to save wear and tear on the switchgear, be it points or a transistor switch. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
I had a summer job working at a nearby provincial park, and part of my job was to clean the outhouse at the trail centre. It sat on the top of a sloped hill in the woods and looked like a normal outhouse from topside. But walk around the side and down the steps to the back where you'll find the access hatch. I'd have to stir-the-goo and throw a good layer of sawdust or wood shavings on the foul mixture and it did indeed keep the smell down. I can't remember why though. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/23/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might as well establish myself as a full fledged nutter. On my farm we've got a little camp. The camp has an outhouse which is nearing unusable because the hole is about full. This summer I did an experiment in humanure. Basically you do your business in a bucket that has a layer of sawdust in it. When you've made your deposit you cover with more sawdust. The sawdust magically makes it not smell (for real). Once the bucket is full you put the contents in your compost pile. 3 years later its totally composted and free of any potentially dangerous pathogens that might have been in your gut (as opposed to any potentially dangerous pathogens naturally present in the soil). As I say we've only made one experiement, my wife and I used the bucket for about 3 days. We're working on planting trees so I figure the compost could be put to good use... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:30:04 -0800 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics Charge To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed got to do something with all the feces too. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Since you all seem to have such a keen interest in this subject so I will chime in as someone who lived in China for over 20 years. Human manure has always been considered as an organic fertilizer and has been used all along until in 1980's when the industrial fertilizers were allowed to be imported to China. It does pose as a health risk particularlly in southern part of China (warm climate). A lot of people got hepitatis through eating vegetables not thoroughly cleaned. I remember one of technologies the government boasted back then was a household septic system which you can use the produced methanol gas for cooking and the final waste for crop field or fish pond. Tan --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wondered how composting toilets actually work - never looked into them. Chinese don't really compost either - they just dump SHO (straight human waste) into the paddies. Unless they are using it for biogas, in which case they use underground digesters, usually. Chris Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Composting toilets, from what I've seen are usually a sham. They cook the uhh, deposit, down to ash which is then technically a toxic waste... Composting, as I'm sure you know, happens out in the open with air and microbes involved. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics To: Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 you could make biogas and, with some fiddling, use it like propane in a gas engine. Biogas is very widespread on a small scale in India and China. Human feces has been used in China as a fertilizer for 4,000 years. Composting is better becuase it can kill pathogens if hot enough (and compost done right can get quite hot). Also, plenty of places sell composting toilets so you don't need a bucket. :-) And if you want crap - diesel...mix it with the turkey guts in Carthage. Chris - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics
Basic composting theory, you mix nitrogen (like the human waste) with carbon (sawdust) and the carbon takes away the smell. The mixture of the two also composts faster that either part would individually. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:18:45 -0500 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Green Fuels Would Damage Environment, Critics To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a summer job working at a nearby provincial park, and part of my job was to clean the outhouse at the trail centre. It sat on the top of a sloped hill in the woods and looked like a normal outhouse from topside. But walk around the side and down the steps to the back where you'll find the access hatch. I'd have to stir-the-goo and throw a good layer of sawdust or wood shavings on the foul mixture and it did indeed keep the smell down. I can't remember why though. Tim 1982 300TD Moby - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 23 20:40:10 2005 Received: from bay103-f38.bay103.hotmail.com ([65.54.174.48] helo=hotmail.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ef1PW-0003if-5T for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:40:10 + Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:40:06 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:40:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.41.70.232] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:40:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2005 20:40:06.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[16D0AB10:01C5F06E] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:40:10 - Good question. The thing was smoking (could mostly see it in the headlights of cars following at night). It wasn't black-ish smoke. And it didn't seem blue-ish like burning oil, nor was there a burnt-oil smell, or any oil collected in the tailpipe. Remember, this thing is shrowded in mystery because the breakdwon occurred while I was not around and someone else put a bunch of miles on it - possibly someone was allowed to drive it who had little sense (girlfried, drinking buddy? - the truth is hard to come by someitmes). Or it could be that there was a problem with the engine when be bought it. The kid we got it from claimed his dad replaced the engine before his death. But with 120k on the clock, I don't see why. Maybe he put in a crap engine? Or did improper repairs? I don't have much faith in the previous owner. The other scenario would be its being run out of oil and driven dry of oil. The thing was using oil shockingly fast when I drove it around, but I have since been told that if the car sits for a long period (it sat for around a year), it often consumes oil for a while when it is first driven again. Also, I was told that if one fills the oil up to the full mark (which I did repeatedly), it will burn it down fast. A small bit of evidence in favor of the blown head gasket is the coolant level being significantlly low (it wasn't when I was using it). I know, inconclusive, but still evidence. So, Marshall/others, what would be the indicators of a blown head gasket? What would be the indicators of siezing due to lack of oil? Some have suggested a broken timing chain. Wouldn't this be a sudden seizing? This siezing wasn't sudden. Brian 83 240d From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:11:12 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always
