Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Yup, I talked to a friend who thinks it could be the return line from the filter to the tank collapsing internally. It shouldn't be surprising for a 50 year old machine to have some failing hoses. A complete service would be job one. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: A quick look online suggests that the filter may be in the return line to the tank and will be under pressure. Over pressure may mean nothing more than the filter is dirty and clogged up and needs to be changed. The whole of the oil might need to be changed if it is making filters dirty too quickly and that could mean that parts of the system are wearing and making the fluid dirty. RB On 04/04/2021 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've > found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling > cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet sure > what that means. > Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on that > term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over > 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the > mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a big > deal since I want it at camp. > I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many > machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to > find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
A quick look online suggests that the filter may be in the return line to the tank and will be under pressure. Over pressure may mean nothing more than the filter is dirty and clogged up and needs to be changed. The whole of the oil might need to be changed if it is making filters dirty too quickly and that could mean that parts of the system are wearing and making the fluid dirty. RB On 04/04/2021 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet sure what that means. Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a big deal since I want it at camp. I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Most of the really small ones can be moved with a 1 ton. The other annoying issue with a TLB (tractor, loader, backhoe) is the length. Where a big trucker could probably get 2 or even 3 mini excavators on a trailer you can't do 2 TLBs. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On 2021-04-04 18:14, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Buy one of the later model 14,000 machines [much to find parts for and > more likely built to improved standard]. Then, pay an equipment mover > to > deliver the machine to your camp I don't know what my buddy's mini Ex weighs, but it cost him $850 to get it hauled up to Michigan from Texas last year. And I don't think it was Texahoma, seems like it was near DFW. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
On 2021-04-04 18:14, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Buy one of the later model 14,000 machines [much to find parts for and more likely built to improved standard]. Then, pay an equipment mover to deliver the machine to your camp I don't know what my buddy's mini Ex weighs, but it cost him $850 to get it hauled up to Michigan from Texas last year. And I don't think it was Texahoma, seems like it was near DFW. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Hmm, I wonder if somebody put thick oil in to counteract some leaks... Could be a good starting place. -Curt On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 7:21:50 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Oops I misread your subject -- I read "lifter" for "filter." Maybe this? https://www.greentractortalk.com/threads/2640-hydraulic-filter-pressure-problem.205986/ Allan Streib via Mercedes writes: >> Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on >> that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > > Google search is not what it used to be. > > I mostly use DuckDuckGo now, it isn't full of ads, not sure if it's > helpful in this case though. I tried this: > > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=deere+tractor+pressurized+hydraulic+lifter=ffab=web > > Allan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
I figured the transport (about 450 miles) is going to be in the neighborhood of $2,000. A Case 580 or equivalent (about a 75hp machine) from the mid to late '80s runs $15,000-20,000. The pressurized Deere is $3,500... I'd rather find a Case 380 or equivalent (50hp machine) in that same age range but there just aren't any anywhere near me, or at least none for sale. Anybody with a machine that size is holding it. The Deere 400 is 59hp, its the industrial version of a 2020 farm tractor. I *think* that means that engine parts should be pretty available... -Curt On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 7:15:50 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Buy one of the later model 14,000 machines [much to find parts for and more likely built to improved standard]. Then, pay an equipment mover to deliver the machine to your camp [one time moving cost] which could be less than what you spend trying to sort out the hydraulic issues on the older, smaller machine. [ blockage of some sort downstream from the hydraulic filter, would be my guess, like an internal hose failure, or a valve failure.. Just keep replacing parts till you happen to get the one that fixes the problem, fix. On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 3:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've > found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling > cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet > sure what that means. > Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on > that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over > 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the > mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a > big deal since I want it at camp. > I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many > machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to > find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. > -Curt > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Curt. Maybe some useful info? https://www.greentractortalk.com/threads/jd-400-hydraulic-issues.38970/ Fred On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 6:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've > found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling > cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet > sure what that means. > Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on > that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over > 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the > mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a > big deal since I want it at camp. > I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many > machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to > find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. > -Curt > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Oops I misread your subject -- I read "lifter" for "filter." Maybe this? https://www.greentractortalk.com/threads/2640-hydraulic-filter-pressure-problem.205986/ Allan Streib via Mercedes writes: >> Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on >> that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > > Google search is not what it used to be. > > I mostly use DuckDuckGo now, it isn't full of ads, not sure if it's > helpful in this case though. I tried this: > > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=deere+tractor+pressurized+hydraulic+lifter=ffab=web > > Allan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
Buy one of the later model 14,000 machines [much to find parts for and more likely built to improved standard]. Then, pay an equipment mover to deliver the machine to your camp [one time moving cost] which could be less than what you spend trying to sort out the hydraulic issues on the older, smaller machine. [ blockage of some sort downstream from the hydraulic filter, would be my guess, like an internal hose failure, or a valve failure.. Just keep replacing parts till you happen to get the one that fixes the problem, fix. On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 3:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've > found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling > cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet > sure what that means. > Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on > that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? > The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over > 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the > mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a > big deal since I want it at camp. > I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many > machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to > find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. > -Curt > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
> Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on > that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? Google search is not what it used to be. I mostly use DuckDuckGo now, it isn't full of ads, not sure if it's helpful in this case though. I tried this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=deere+tractor+pressurized+hydraulic+lifter=ffab=web Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Pressurized hydraulic filter
So you guys might remember I've been looking for a backhoe. Locally I've found an old John Deere 400, its late '60s, not sure exactly yet.Selling cheap because it "Pressurizes the hydraulic filter" although I'm not yet sure what that means. Google just wants to sell me hydraulic filters when I try to search on that term. Anybody BTDT, know anything about this sort of thing? The main reason I'm looking at the machine is that its smaller, just over 10,000 pounds which makes moving it a whole lot easier. Starting with the mid-'70s stuff all the machines I see run 14,000+ pounds which becomes a big deal since I want it at camp. I know, I know, buy it up there, the thing is there are 4 times as many machines for sale down here. I dunno if you need to know a guy up there to find anything but none of my internet searches bear much fruit. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
