Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got it off the trailer by chaining the car to a tree and yanking the trailer out from under it. Whee! Sounds like fun! Video? Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
And an ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got it off the trailer by chaining the car to a tree and yanking the trailer out from under it. Whee! Sounds like fun! Video? Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
I picked up the putative body transplant car yesterday. The bottom (floors, etc.) is pretty rusty. Also, no key, and the wheels were turned, so moving it around was a bit awkward. We put it on with a front loader, but I got it off the trailer by chaining the car to a tree and yanking the trailer out from under it. Whee! I'm thinking of it more as parts at this point in time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap After taking apart the trunk latch in the 250 C, and deducing what must have happened to explain the exact symptoms, I removed the license plate and drilled a 1/2 hole in the outer rear wall of the trunk directly underneath the latch lever. In the rain, which was the worst part of all this. I then used a 5# hammer and a chunk of heavy steel rod to drive the inner trunk wall back forwards, maybe 1/2 or so. That moved the latch relative to the lock enough that the trunk could then unlock again. I used duct tape to cover the hole, it even closely matches the color of the car, though the license plate hides the surgery. (Duct tape and BFH's, it doesn't get any better than that!) It should be noted that the value of the retrieved trumpet _far_ outweighs the value of the car. 10:1 maybe. I was _not_ going to stop 'til I had it back, but it was nice that a relatively delicate operation was all that was needed. (I have much bigger hammers, and I'm not afraid to use 'em!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Oh that was a classic. On Mar 9, 2014 10:49 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy On 11/03/2014 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Oh that was a classic. On Mar 9, 2014 10:49 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No. What happened? On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
No, but maybe you'll tell us. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Sounds like a shaggy dog story to me... On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: No, but maybe you'll tell us. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@ constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
The guy comes walking into the doc's office, and the woman asks him, Why the tux? He says, If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent. --R On 3/11/14 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: No. What happened? On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? The car makes me look _really_ good. In comparison... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
i enjoy jokes like that :) like one man's mead is another man's persian (which is this in reserve) On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The guy comes walking into the doc's office, and the woman asks him, Why the tux? He says, If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent. --R On 3/11/14 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: No. What happened? On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to get a vasectomy? --R On 3/11/14 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes! One would normally expect a fellow wearing a tuxedp to drive a better looking Mercedes wouldn't one? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Wow! Never realized there was that much to a trumpet / cornet. Always though it was just 3 or 4 little buttons to make flats and sharps and the musician puckered up for the rest. Good luck on the trunk. Gerry On 3/9/2014 10:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Any way to shove a fish-tape through it and poke out the marble from the back? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 9, 2014, at 22:48, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP Frankenheap
Perhaps, but that'll be somebody else's problem. I have many horns, but I'd only brought the one. I suspect a string of plastic beads would work better, there's a rather sharp bend to negotiate. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. I had the same experience with the 300D. It wouldn't unlock for about two days, then mysteriously it unlocked again. I think it happened when I parked its rear end in the sun for a while. I assume something froze, even though at the time the lock was in perfect condition externally. Might consider trying Wilton's experiment with the random orbital sander, too. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've been having cold weather problems with a w210 doing similar. I suspect that water is in one of the vacuum lines and freezes when it gets really cold... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 10, 2014, at 14:20, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. I had the same experience with the 300D. It wouldn't unlock for about two days, then mysteriously it unlocked again. I think it happened when I parked its rear end in the sun for a while. I assume something froze, even though at the time the lock was in perfect condition externally. Might consider trying Wilton's experiment with the random orbital sander, too. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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After taking apart the trunk latch in the 250 C, and deducing what must have happened to explain the exact symptoms, I removed the license plate and drilled a 1/2 hole in the outer rear wall of the trunk directly underneath the latch lever. In the rain, which was the worst part of all this. I then used a 5# hammer and a chunk of heavy steel rod to drive the inner trunk wall back forwards, maybe 1/2 or so. That moved the latch relative to the lock enough that the trunk could then unlock again. I used duct tape to cover the hole, it even closely matches the color of the car, though the license plate hides the surgery. (Duct tape and BFH's, it doesn't get any better than that!) It should be noted that the value of the retrieved trumpet _far_ outweighs the value of the car. 10:1 maybe. I was _not_ going to stop 'til I had it back, but it was nice that a relatively delicate operation was all that was needed. (I have much bigger hammers, and I'm not afraid to use 'em!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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so, it all went smooth? _ Sorry about all the rotten things happening ;-) That horn with the marble sounds like a lost cause - perhaps it was the butt of a few high school jokes? Better luck during the solo - I played [poorly] a Conn cornet many years ago. I remember the girl in the 1st chair had a chrome Haan Cornet - Man! She was really good LarryT On 3/9/2014 10:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: So today I sat in as 3rd trumpet on a concert my wife was playing. Unpaid, volunteer gig. I have a tux, and don't charge, so even though I kinda suck I still get asked to dance once in awhile... _Anyway_, there I am, in my tux in the parking lot going to swap one trumpet for another, as I had to hurry to our concert band's dress rehearsal immediately after the concert, and I _need_ the other horn. Only the heap's trunk won't unlock. I had been rear-ended in the snow a month earlier, and while the car was knocked back together, and the trunk opened and closed just fine, I had never locked it since the accident. Well, it _locked_ just fine, but would not unlock. So I'm about to be late for the dress rehearsal, and I only have a C horn. Mind you, I only _have_ a C horn because I basically can't transpose. The conductor of today's concert was there, and was the musical director of the school it was held at. He had a spare Bb cornet in the band room. I don't know when it was last played. There's no mouthpiece. But you're welcome to borrow it. Well, I figure it's a step up from 'nothing', and just has to be better than me flailing around on C, so I grab it and dash off to the next school. Which I find, only there are no unlocked doors. After a trip around the building, gathering up other lost souls, we eventually found the one door with a stooge, who had wandered away for awhile. In we all go, they're starting to play already. So much for a little recovery time. I hold my T mouthpiece into the cornet, a Conn Victor, and it doesn't blow. At all. I look, and find that the #1 and #2 slides are swapped. That's not a good sign, I swap them back. I then check the valves, and yes, somebody has swapped #1 #2. I put them back. #2 promptly binds, it's not working right. And the horn is still blocked. I look down the bell, somebody has thoughtfully rammed a marble down there! I can't shake or blow it out, I think this horn is done for the day! Fortunately my stand-mate had brought her new old Conn/Wurlitzer Bb/C cornet along for show and tell. And a cornet mouthpiece. We had to find the stooge again, and go out to the parking lot to get it. I played that the rest of the rehearsal, trying to dial in the (as-yet unknown) tuning, figure out which HP/LP slides were what was needed, etc. It was fairly grim, she was still in the middle of polishing it, and figuring out how it went together. I don't think she had really played it at all yet. I think I just played it _way_ more than she had. Unfamiliar horn, unfamiliar mouthpiece, didn't even have time to tune it, except on the fly. Oh, and my solo's coming up fast. Ugh. Sigh. And my trumpet is still locked in the trunk. I have other horns, but I could really use the music for the concert, and I'm supposed to return it then. I will drill into it in the morning, I guess. My good horn, music, and good leather coat are still trapped in there. I think the settlement amount with the Insco just went up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you can do with bumpers. Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants. I have two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering column and bumpers could move from the 'heap. I'm hoping to get a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college? Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something? That'd be worth a look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If possible, it would be nice to fix the 200. The more modern W115s just don't have the appeal of yours. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college? Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something? That'd be worth a look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/02/2014 9:59 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: If possible, it would be nice to fix the 200. The more modern W115s just don't have the appeal of yours. I don't know about that statement. I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Despite the fact that it has things like power windows, it is pretty archaic. For example, the wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots strikes me as old. They added a few things on the 115 over the years but do not appear to have revised much prior to tossing it in favour of the 123. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Yours doesn't? :-) wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for the auxiliary lights. I don't think a car gets more basic than mine. Manual everything. Crank windows, manual locks. Its fanciest features are the light in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers. Fuel gauge is electric, but all other instruments are mechanical. (I did swap in a quartz clock.) No AC. Heater fan works. I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Yours doesn't? :-) wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for the auxiliary lights. I don't think a car gets more basic than mine. Manual everything. Crank windows, manual locks. Its fanciest features are the light in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers. Fuel gauge is electric, but all other instruments are mechanical. (I did swap in a quartz clock.) No AC. Heater fan works. I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great. -- Jim And it is pretty comfortable too for an old vehicle. I had, for a long time, a 1968 Chevy C10 pickup truck. No power steering or brakes. No radio. No power windows or locks. 292 inline 6. The only modern comfort was an AT and it was a powerglide. It was very basic and I kept it for something like 24 years. It was a backup vehicle when I needed to work on a daily driver and it was there to haul stuff when I was not driving a truck as a daily driver. But it was a bit of a bear to drive in the city without power steering. It was noisy on the highway at speed. No aerodynamics I guess. The seating position was not optimal. The cabs on the older trucks are not as big as the newer ones. I replaced the seat with one from a newer truck as the original had broken springs and upholstery that was destroyed when I got the truck. It was 17 years old when I bought it in the spring of 1985. The seat was maybe a bit deeper as it left no room for adjustment. I am only 5'8 so it worked for me but when my 6'3 son wanted to drive it, I did not think it safe for him as his knees were on either side of the wheel. And, did I mention the fuel economy or lack thereof? I only drove it about 13K miles in 24 years so it was ok and I still miss it somewhat but it was not nearly as nice to drive as the old MB is. The one thing that I miss with the MB is the remote locking. I may try to install something (a previous posting on this issue was only a week or two back if I recall) as I dislike having to use the key in the door lock everytime. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you can do with bumpers. Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants. I have two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering column and bumpers could move from the 'heap. I'm hoping to get a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do that. -- Jim generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500. I'd guess $1500 to swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion. Parts extra. Ins co is obligated to make you whole. The argument is what is whole I do think you can get more than 1700 out of them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college? Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something? That'd be worth a look. -- Jim Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle. Have to show the title. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/02/2014 11:24 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college? Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something? That'd be worth a look. -- Jim Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle. Have to show the title. Probably an insurance issue. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Yours doesn't? :-) wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for the auxiliary lights. I don't think a car gets more basic than mine. Manual everything. Crank windows, manual locks. Its fanciest features are the light in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers. Fuel gauge is electric, but all other instruments are mechanical. (I did swap in a quartz clock.) No AC. Heater fan works. I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great. -- Jim That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had. If the battery was down, you could crank it. Same with the IH H. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/02/2014 11:38 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Yours doesn't? :-) wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for the auxiliary lights. I don't think a car gets more basic than mine. Manual everything. Crank windows, manual locks. Its fanciest features are the light in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers. Fuel gauge is electric, but all other instruments are mechanical. (I did swap in a quartz clock.) No AC. Heater fan works. I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great. -- Jim That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had. If the battery was down, you could crank it. Same with the IH H. Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it break your wrist? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had. If the battery was down, you could crank it. Same with the IH H. Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it break your wrist? Randy no, unless you have the timing advanced too far ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So, all you need is to make sure the check straps are good to go, and finding a guy with a cherry picker to drop the engine into your new body clay On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you can do with bumpers. Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants. I have two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering column and bumpers could move from the 'heap. I'm hoping to get a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Same with my '61 MGA (you could start it with a crank), until I dropped the Olds V8 in it, that is . . . On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had. If the battery was down, you could crank it. Same with the IH H. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle. Have to show the title. He buys carcass? Move engine to carcass. Sell me result. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it break your wrist? no, unless you have the timing advanced too far Yes, always. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500. I'd guess $1500 to swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion. Parts extra. No conversion/parts required. The carcass is also a stickshift. Correction, only parts found to be _bad_ during the transplant are required. My guy's out of town this month. No quote. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I felt the W115 in basic trim were the epitome of practicality. Very simple to resolve issues, no need to head scratch and chase electronic gremlins. As long as you could find vegi oil and had a hills to push start, you could get most anywhere. Carry a sturdy lantern for night driving, lashed to the little child you lashed to the front of the car. clay On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would have a crank out front to start the engine. Yours doesn't? :-) wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for the auxiliary lights. I don't think a car gets more basic than mine. Manual everything. Crank windows, manual locks. Its fanciest features are the light in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers. Fuel gauge is electric, but all other instruments are mechanical. (I did swap in a quartz clock.) No AC. Heater fan works. I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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YEAH! It was a highly valued show car in unrestored condition and you were going to trailer it to Pebble Beach clay On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you can do with bumpers. Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants. I have two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering column and bumpers could move from the 'heap. I'm hoping to get a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do that. -- Jim generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500. I'd guess $1500 to swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion. Parts extra. Ins co is obligated to make you whole. The argument is what is whole I do think you can get more than 1700 out of them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500. I'd guess $1500 to swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion. Parts extra. No conversion/parts required. The carcass is also a stickshift. Correction, only parts found to be _bad_ during the transplant are required. My guy's out of town this month. No quote. -- Jim Ok, I thought it was an auto. a cutrate engine swap is about $500 around here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The insurance company has made their offer, $1863 I keep the car and we never hear from each other again. I'm mulling the options now. There are really two, keep the decomposing hulk and keep on driving it, or use the cash to transplant the guts into that $200 carcass. Maybe paint it on a MAACO sale day. I like having the unusual 200D, a lot, but the tinworm is thriving pretty well. The 240D carcass looks pretty good, but it's got modern mirrors/bumpers, no wing windows, foam steering wheel, etc. Anybody have any idea what it might cost to get the engine through differential moved? I'm just not into heavy lifting anymore. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The insurance company has made their offer, $1863 Doh! Lexdysia strikes again. Make that $1683. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college? Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something? --R On 2/18/14 10:17 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: The insurance company has made their offer, $1863 I keep the car and we never hear from each other again. I'm mulling the options now. There are really two, keep the decomposing hulk and keep on driving it, or use the cash to transplant the guts into that $200 carcass. Maybe paint it on a MAACO sale day. I like having the unusual 200D, a lot, but the tinworm is thriving pretty well. The 240D carcass looks pretty good, but it's got modern mirrors/bumpers, no wing windows, foam steering wheel, etc. Anybody have any idea what it might cost to get the engine through differential moved? I'm just not into heavy lifting anymore. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you can do with bumpers. I have a set of wing window replacements with hardware. Also have the glass for three windows. clay On Feb 18, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: The insurance company has made their offer, $1863 I keep the car and we never hear from each other again. I'm mulling the options now. There are really two, keep the decomposing hulk and keep on driving it, or use the cash to transplant the guts into that $200 carcass. Maybe paint it on a MAACO sale day. I like having the unusual 200D, a lot, but the tinworm is thriving pretty well. The 240D carcass looks pretty good, but it's got modern mirrors/bumpers, no wing windows, foam steering wheel, etc. Anybody have any idea what it might cost to get the engine through differential moved? I'm just not into heavy lifting anymore. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I currently have 3 varieties, all premixed to 50/50 G05 VW G013 and green stuff that I put in the 240D while it sleeps for winter awaiting a springtime head replacement. -Curt Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 21:30:55 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? Message-ID: a06240807cf1df84bc593@[192.168.1.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. She just got home, no antifreeze. 'Too tired'. So I guess my choices are either go out again now, or drive the 560 SL again tomorrow, in several inches of fresh snow. -- Jim Ugh! Rats! I have some, if you want to come over and get it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a chocolate brown 240D living at my indy. Engine became toast, and I am not sure what the customer is going to do. I am sure you could make a Kaleb Ka$h offer for it. Scrap value is all of $300. Engine was run on BioD, and is the only thing wrong. I did not look too hard, think it is a w123. Bet it makes a really good winter car. clay On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: It's not nearly so nice out today, I waited a bit later, but no sun. I went into the garage and searched more carefully for parts, and was able to find the all-metal 115 grille I'd laid in for potential use on the 250C. I'm not sure I want to use it here, though. I also found the 116 grille I'd bought for cutting off some repair plastic. That turns out to bridge nicely across the radiator, pinned in place by the grille surround mounting ears. I might go that way for now, it looks somewhat better than a gaping dark hole. I did not find any spare headlights, and I was reluctant to steal one off of the 250C. I dug some more, and found the spare glass lenses I'd bought for these headlights. They were flat-front, not the curved-fronts that were on the car, but they were Hella. I tried one, and it fits! I used a hammer to try to remove the bend from the trim ring, and I think it worked. There's a crack, as this is pot metal, but it doesn't look too bad. It looks a little funny compared to the other one, I may end up putting on both flat lenses and retiring the (broken, and glued-together) curved lens. I had to replace the 4W city (parking) light bulb, but the others were all still intact. I put the headlight back on the car, that helps the looks a lot. The auxiliary fog lights are not working, and there are no auxiliary driving lights, but the car looks driveable. I had a little coolant to pour in, but not enough to restore the car to the road. Jill is supposed to be fetching me some. -- Jim Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
I did not look too hard, think it is a w123. Bet it makes a really good winter car. They do, and we have one. Just need to fix the (probably) B2. Th local-ish engine-less 115 is a late-style 240D. No wing windows, padded steering wheel, etc. Not as appealing as the older style. The 'new' radiator leaks. When I park I put a jar under it, and pour it back in the radiator before I take off. Good thing I got it going for today, though, there was a _lot_ of fresh snow today, the SL would never have made it home, much less to band and then back home. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
I currently have 3 varieties, all premixed to 50/50 I drove out last night and bought a jug at the grocery store. Ugh. Oh, the 'heap is stuck in the driveway right now, the belly dragged too much in the deep new snow. I had to walk in, carrying all my crap at about 10PM. I'll dig it out tomorrow. Maybe 2 more expected tonight. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
I made a grill out of a drop-in light panel from a hanging ceiling... Sprayed it to match the car color... Clever, but too much work for the situation. I have a 116 grille panel in the scrap pile, I cut pieces off of it to glue onto some other grille that had a bit of damage. That'd probably be a decent base to build on. The grille _surround_ is a problem, it's mangled. Maybe I could hammer it into shape again, but right now I'm focused on drivability, not beauty. The headlight is a problem, I don't really want to steal one off the 250C. I thought I had laid in a spare light or two from the junkyard, but my first cruise through the piles netted zip. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The grille _surround_ is a problem, it's mangled. Maybe I could hammer it into shape again, but right now I'm focused on drivability, not beauty. The headlight is a problem, I don't really want to steal one off the 250C. I thought I had laid in a spare light or two from the junkyard, but my first cruise through the piles netted zip. -- Jim clay doesn't have spares any more? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I will go through my pile and see what I have on hand. If nothing, I can snag something from the scrap yard. maybe clay On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I made a grill out of a drop-in light panel from a hanging ceiling... Sprayed it to match the car color... Clever, but too much work for the situation. I have a 116 grille panel in the scrap pile, I cut pieces off of it to glue onto some other grille that had a bit of damage. That'd probably be a decent base to build on. The grille _surround_ is a problem, it's mangled. Maybe I could hammer it into shape again, but right now I'm focused on drivability, not beauty. The headlight is a problem, I don't really want to steal one off the 250C. I thought I had laid in a spare light or two from the junkyard, but my first cruise through the piles netted zip. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
It's not nearly so nice out today, I waited a bit later, but no sun. I went into the garage and searched more carefully for parts, and was able to find the all-metal 115 grille I'd laid in for potential use on the 250C. I'm not sure I want to use it here, though. I also found the 116 grille I'd bought for cutting off some repair plastic. That turns out to bridge nicely across the radiator, pinned in place by the grille surround mounting ears. I might go that way for now, it looks somewhat better than a gaping dark hole. I did not find any spare headlights, and I was reluctant to steal one off of the 250C. I dug some more, and found the spare glass lenses I'd bought for these headlights. They were flat-front, not the curved-fronts that were on the car, but they were Hella. I tried one, and it fits! I used a hammer to try to remove the bend from the trim ring, and I think it worked. There's a crack, as this is pot metal, but it doesn't look too bad. It looks a little funny compared to the other one, I may end up putting on both flat lenses and retiring the (broken, and glued-together) curved lens. I had to replace the 4W city (parking) light bulb, but the others were all still intact. I put the headlight back on the car, that helps the looks a lot. The auxiliary fog lights are not working, and there are no auxiliary driving lights, but the car looks driveable. I had a little coolant to pour in, but not enough to restore the car to the road. Jill is supposed to be fetching me some. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
It's not nearly so nice out today, I waited a bit later, but no sun. I went into the garage and searched more carefully for parts, and was able to find the all-metal 115 grille I'd laid in for potential use on the 250C. I'm not sure I want to use it here, though. I also found the 116 grille I'd bought for cutting off some repair plastic. That turns out to bridge nicely across the radiator, pinned in place by the grille surround mounting ears. I might go that way for now, it looks somewhat better than a gaping dark hole. I did not find any spare headlights, and I was reluctant to steal one off of the 250C. I dug some more, and found the spare glass lenses I'd bought for these headlights. They were flat-front, not the curved-fronts that were on the car, but they were Hella. I tried one, and it fits! I used a hammer to try to remove the bend from the trim ring, and I think it worked. There's a crack, as this is pot metal, but it doesn't look too bad. It looks a little funny compared to the other one, I may end up putting on both flat lenses and retiring the (broken, and glued-together) curved lens. I had to replace the 4W city (parking) light bulb, but the others were all still intact. I put the headlight back on the car, that helps the looks a lot. The auxiliary fog lights are not working, and there are no auxiliary driving lights, but the car looks driveable. I had a little coolant to pour in, but not enough to restore the car to the road. Jill is supposed to be fetching me some. -- Jim Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. She just got home, no antifreeze. 'Too tired'. So I guess my choices are either go out again now, or drive the 560 SL again tomorrow, in several inches of fresh snow. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
ATTABOY in the making! Wilt - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? It's not nearly so nice out today, I waited a bit later, but no sun. I went into the garage and searched more carefully for parts, and was able to find the all-metal 115 grille I'd laid in for potential use on the 250C. I'm not sure I want to use it here, though. I also found the 116 grille I'd bought for cutting off some repair plastic. That turns out to bridge nicely across the radiator, pinned in place by the grille surround mounting ears. I might go that way for now, it looks somewhat better than a gaping dark hole. I did not find any spare headlights, and I was reluctant to steal one off of the 250C. I dug some more, and found the spare glass lenses I'd bought for these headlights. They were flat-front, not the curved-fronts that were on the car, but they were Hella. I tried one, and it fits! I used a hammer to try to remove the bend from the trim ring, and I think it worked. There's a crack, as this is pot metal, but it doesn't look too bad. It looks a little funny compared to the other one, I may end up putting on both flat lenses and retiring the (broken, and glued-together) curved lens. I had to replace the 4W city (parking) light bulb, but the others were all still intact. I put the headlight back on the car, that helps the looks a lot. The auxiliary fog lights are not working, and there are no auxiliary driving lights, but the car looks driveable. I had a little coolant to pour in, but not enough to restore the car to the road. Jill is supposed to be fetching me some. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. She just got home, no antifreeze. 'Too tired'. So I guess my choices are either go out again now, or drive the 560 SL again tomorrow, in several inches of fresh snow. -- Jim Ugh! Rats! I have some, if you want to come over and get it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap with golden antifreeze?
Yeah but you want payment in pounds of Gold. Anyway Jim, harden up and tell the missus to get out there and get some bloody antifreeze and make sure it's the good stuff and while she is out to get some beer as well. Hendrik who is quickly sending this before fay sees it On 10/02/14 14:00, Dieselhead wrote: Attaboy! especially the part about getting SWMBO to get more anitfrizz. She just got home, no antifreeze. 'Too tired'. So I guess my choices are either go out again now, or drive the 560 SL again tomorrow, in several inches of fresh snow. -- Jim Ugh! Rats! I have some, if you want to come over and get it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
I finally got a chance, post-adjustor visit, to get out and work on the car with an eye toward patching it up enough to get it back on the road. (Snow tires would be _really_ nice to have right about now!) I waited until the car was in the sun, and above 20 degF, under which conditions it's actually fairly pleasant to work. (Just about noon.) I started by removing all the broken crap from the front, I'd already removed all the grille and the radiator and fan. I completed the removal by taking off the grille surround, and all the damaged headlights. With easy access to the radiator support area I got out a nice array of BFH's in the 5#-20# spectrum and a big crowbar. Is there _nothing_ a BFH cannot do? I used the crowbar as a hook and drove the pushed-in parts forward using a BFH, and did the best I could to straighten the radiator support channels. I pushed in the crease on the hood with a rubber mallet, and drove the front edge forward with a BFH. I moved the radiator support forwards until the hood latch again went into the hole in the hood, and generally did a lot of prying and hammering until the front part of the car looked kind of normal again. This was none too good for the paint, but we're long past caring about that now. I went to the back of the car and drove the trunk wall rearwards until the trunk latched normally again. That was actually fairly easy. With the metalwork all 'done' I then moved on to putting things back together. I checked the damaged radiator, and it could not even begin to hold mouth-applied air pressure. I looked in my spares pile and found a brass 115 radiator that seemed to hold pressure. (At least some, anyway, no guarantee that it doesn't have a slow leak.) I used the propane torch to remove the soldered-on side guides, which were for a narrower channel than my car has. I had some wider guides that I had been using to shim the (now-destroyed) 123 radiator in there, with them press-fit onto the radiator, much like the situation with the 123 radiator, the assembly slipped down into the newly-restored channels; it fit perfectly, I used the rubber donuts to tie the radiator to the radiator frame. I looked around and found the original small plastic four-bladed fixed fan, and put that back in place of the chipped viscous-clutch fan. (That had never really worked out for me, there was little point in putting it back.) I left off the shroud, the last thing we need in a winter car is more efficient cooling! I found that the lower radiator hose had been sliced into by something, so it was no good. I had another one, though, in the spares pile. The upper hose, which is in fact the wrong hose entirely, did not fit the radiator, it was too large. The same was true of the other end, and I'd made a folded 2-layer sock of bicycle inner-tube to shim the diameter there, so I did the same for the radiator end. The system seemed to hold air pressure when I blew into the radiator. I tightened up the alternator, it had been slipping a bit lately. All this took about three hours. The sun went behind the trees, so I wrapped it up for the day. All that's left is to put some coolant into the system, and get some kind of headlight on the right side. And maybe some kind of screen rigged to protect the radiator in the absence of a grille. Assuming no engine damage from the lost coolant, it should again be driveable, if not beautiful. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
Local Craigslist has an ad for a 115 240D manual, sans engine and tranny and with lots of extra parts. No pictures, he's asking $200. Pretty tempting! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? I finally got a chance, post-adjustor visit, to get out and work on the car with an eye toward patching it up enough to get it back on the road. (Snow tires would be _really_ nice to have right about now!) I waited until the car was in the sun, and above 20 degF, under which conditions it's actually fairly pleasant to work. (Just about noon.) I started by removing all the broken crap from the front, I'd already removed all the grille and the radiator and fan. I completed the removal by taking off the grille surround, and all the damaged headlights. With easy access to the radiator support area I got out a nice array of BFH's in the 5#-20# spectrum and a big crowbar. Is there _nothing_ a BFH cannot do? I used the crowbar as a hook and drove the pushed-in parts forward using a BFH, and did the best I could to straighten the radiator support channels. I pushed in the crease on the hood with a rubber mallet, and drove the front edge forward with a BFH. I moved the radiator support forwards until the hood latch again went into the hole in the hood, and generally did a lot of prying and hammering until the front part of the car looked kind of normal again. This was none too good for the paint, but we're long past caring about that now. I went to the back of the car and drove the trunk wall rearwards until the trunk latched normally again. That was actually fairly easy. With the metalwork all 'done' I then moved on to putting things back together. I checked the damaged radiator, and it could not even begin to hold mouth-applied air pressure. I looked in my spares pile and found a brass 115 radiator that seemed to hold pressure. (At least some, anyway, no guarantee that it doesn't have a slow leak.) I used the propane torch to remove the soldered-on side guides, which were for a narrower channel than my car has. I had some wider guides that I had been using to shim the (now-destroyed) 123 radiator in there, with them press-fit onto the radiator, much like the situation with the 123 radiator, the assembly slipped down into the newly-restored channels; it fit perfectly, I used the rubber donuts to tie the radiator to the radiator frame. I looked around and found the original small plastic four-bladed fixed fan, and put that back in place of the chipped viscous-clutch fan. (That had never really worked out for me, there was little point in putting it back.) I left off the shroud, the last thing we need in a winter car is more efficient cooling! I found that the lower radiator hose had been sliced into by something, so it was no good. I had another one, though, in the spares pile. The upper hose, which is in fact the wrong hose entirely, did not fit the radiator, it was too large. The same was true of the other end, and I'd made a folded 2-layer sock of bicycle inner-tube to shim the diameter there, so I did the same for the radiator end. The system seemed to hold air pressure when I blew into the radiator. I tightened up the alternator, it had been slipping a bit lately. All this took about three hours. The sun went behind the trees, so I wrapped it up for the day. All that's left is to put some coolant into the system, and get some kind of headlight on the right side. And maybe some kind of screen rigged to protect the radiator in the absence of a grille. Assuming no engine damage from the lost coolant, it should again be driveable, if not beautiful. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You know you really need it. On Feb 8, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Local Craigslist has an ad for a 115 240D manual, sans engine and tranny and with lots of extra parts. No pictures, he's asking $200. Pretty tempting! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
Attabiy! Your winter heap may turn out to be even uglier than mine. Now its bordering on the 190Dc I drove around for 4 or 5 winters in the 80s. I finally got a chance, post-adjustor visit, to get out and work on the car with an eye toward patching it up enough to get it back on the road. (Snow tires would be _really_ nice to have right about now!) I waited until the car was in the sun, and above 20 degF, under which conditions it's actually fairly pleasant to work. (Just about noon.) I started by removing all the broken crap from the front, I'd already removed all the grille and the radiator and fan. I completed the removal by taking off the grille surround, and all the damaged headlights. With easy access to the radiator support area I got out a nice array of BFH's in the 5#-20# spectrum and a big crowbar. Is there _nothing_ a BFH cannot do? I used the crowbar as a hook and drove the pushed-in parts forward using a BFH, and did the best I could to straighten the radiator support channels. I pushed in the crease on the hood with a rubber mallet, and drove the front edge forward with a BFH. I moved the radiator support forwards until the hood latch again went into the hole in the hood, and generally did a lot of prying and hammering until the front part of the car looked kind of normal again. This was none too good for the paint, but we're long past caring about that now. I went to the back of the car and drove the trunk wall rearwards until the trunk latched normally again. That was actually fairly easy. With the metalwork all 'done' I then moved on to putting things back together. I checked the damaged radiator, and it could not even begin to hold mouth-applied air pressure. I looked in my spares pile and found a brass 115 radiator that seemed to hold pressure. (At least some, anyway, no guarantee that it doesn't have a slow leak.) I used the propane torch to remove the soldered-on side guides, which were for a narrower channel than my car has. I had some wider guides that I had been using to shim the (now-destroyed) 123 radiator in there, with them press-fit onto the radiator, much like the situation with the 123 radiator, the assembly slipped down into the newly-restored channels; it fit perfectly, I used the rubber donuts to tie the radiator to the radiator frame. I looked around and found the original small plastic four-bladed fixed fan, and put that back in place of the chipped viscous-clutch fan. (That had never really worked out for me, there was little point in putting it back.) I left off the shroud, the last thing we need in a winter car is more efficient cooling! I found that the lower radiator hose had been sliced into by something, so it was no good. I had another one, though, in the spares pile. The upper hose, which is in fact the wrong hose entirely, did not fit the radiator, it was too large. The same was true of the other end, and I'd made a folded 2-layer sock of bicycle inner-tube to shim the diameter there, so I did the same for the radiator end. The system seemed to hold air pressure when I blew into the radiator. I tightened up the alternator, it had been slipping a bit lately. All this took about three hours. The sun went behind the trees, so I wrapped it up for the day. All that's left is to put some coolant into the system, and get some kind of headlight on the right side. And maybe some kind of screen rigged to protect the radiator in the absence of a grille. Assuming no engine damage from the lost coolant, it should again be driveable, if not beautiful. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:58:40 -0800 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: You know you really need it. Indeed! Go for it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Depends on rust I suppose, worth a phone call at least. Hendrik who doesn't need a winter beater On 09/02/14 15:13, Craig wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:58:40 -0800 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: You know you really need it. Indeed! Go for it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2/8/2014 9:17 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Attabiy! Your winter heap may turn out to be even uglier than mine. Now its bordering on the 190Dc I drove around for 4 or 5 winters in the 80s. I finally got a chance, post-adjustor visit, to get out and work on the car with an eye toward patching it up enough to get it back on the road. (Snow tires would be _really_ nice to have right about now!) I waited until the car was in the sun, and above 20 degF, under which conditions it's actually fairly pleasant to work. (Just about noon.) I started by removing all the broken crap from the front, I'd already removed all the grille and the radiator and fan. I completed the removal by taking off the grille surround, and all the damaged headlights. With easy access to the radiator support area I got out a nice array of BFH's in the 5#-20# spectrum and a big crowbar. Is there _nothing_ a BFH cannot do? I used the crowbar as a hook and drove the pushed-in parts forward using a BFH, and did the best I could to straighten the radiator support channels. I pushed in the crease on the hood with a rubber mallet, and drove the front edge forward with a BFH. I moved the radiator support forwards until the hood latch again went into the hole in the hood, and generally did a lot of prying and hammering until the front part of the car looked kind of normal again. This was none too good for the paint, but we're long past caring about that now. I went to the back of the car and drove the trunk wall rearwards until the trunk latched normally again. That was actually fairly easy. With the metalwork all 'done' I then moved on to putting things back together. I checked the damaged radiator, and it could not even begin to hold mouth-applied air pressure. I looked in my spares pile and found a brass 115 radiator that seemed to hold pressure. (At least some, anyway, no guarantee that it doesn't have a slow leak.) I used the propane torch to remove the soldered-on side guides, which were for a narrower channel than my car has. I had some wider guides that I had been using to shim the (now-destroyed) 123 radiator in there, with them press-fit onto the radiator, much like the situation with the 123 radiator, the assembly slipped down into the newly-restored channels; it fit perfectly, I used the rubber donuts to tie the radiator to the radiator frame. I looked around and found the original small plastic four-bladed fixed fan, and put that back in place of the chipped viscous-clutch fan. (That had never really worked out for me, there was little point in putting it back.) I left off the shroud, the last thing we need in a winter car is more efficient cooling! I found that the lower radiator hose had been sliced into by something, so it was no good. I had another one, though, in the spares pile. The upper hose, which is in fact the wrong hose entirely, did not fit the radiator, it was too large. The same was true of the other end, and I'd made a folded 2-layer sock of bicycle inner-tube to shim the diameter there, so I did the same for the radiator end. The system seemed to hold air pressure when I blew into the radiator. I tightened up the alternator, it had been slipping a bit lately. All this took about three hours. The sun went behind the trees, so I wrapped it up for the day. All that's left is to put some coolant into the system, and get some kind of headlight on the right side. And maybe some kind of screen rigged to protect the radiator in the absence of a grille. Assuming no engine damage from the lost coolant, it should again be driveable, if not beautiful. -- Jim I made a grill out of a drop-in light panel from a hanging ceiling after a deer strike. Sprayed it to match the car color and it worked well for several years with no snide comments. Got the grill from Home Depot or Lowes. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R On 2/6/14 9:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Most 200 and 220 went into or are in Taxi service and where not sold in the US AFAIK Hendrik who is not in taxi service at the moment PS enjoy Willie Kaleb On 07/02/14 12:31, Dieselhead wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim According to wikipedia, there were about 350,000 200Ds built as W115 and 345,000 220Ds, and a few 240Ds in 115. Worldwide, a 200D should be as easy to find as a 220D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Interesting. I have not seen a W115 taxi in Greece for a very long time. Even the W123 taxi is a rare sight now. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R On 2/6/14 9:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Most 200 and 220 went into or are in Taxi service and where not sold in the US AFAIK Hendrik who is not in taxi service at the moment PS enjoy Willie Kaleb On 07/02/14 12:31, Dieselhead wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim According to wikipedia, there were about 350,000 200Ds built as W115 and 345,000 220Ds, and a few 240Ds in 115. Worldwide, a 200D should be as easy to find as a 220D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have found a very great number of W115. at the pull a part. These are 40 years old and probably neglected for the past 20 years. Not sexy, so no value beyond scrap in the eyes of the owners. clay On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dieselhead wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim According to wikipedia, there were about 350,000 200Ds built as W115 and 345,000 220Ds, and a few 240Ds in 115. Worldwide, a 200D should be as easy to find as a 220D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114 Also talks about the poosmobile 250 LWB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems to be a cycle, they start off working in central Europe and then move out into the poorer parts of Europe and then keep going until they end up in Africa or some such place, to live out their lives. There is vid floating around that shows doxens upon dozens of 123/115 taxis outside an African airport. Guess Greece is up to the 124 and 210's now. Hendrik who is on bushfire alert On 08/02/14 10:01, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting. I have not seen a W115 taxi in Greece for a very long time. Even the W123 taxi is a rare sight now. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ha. You'll be hardpressed to even find a W210 taxi in Greece- Athens at least. They roll with the times when in comes to taxis. In the more rural parts of the country you do tend to see the older models though. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be a cycle, they start off working in central Europe and then move out into the poorer parts of Europe and then keep going until they end up in Africa or some such place, to live out their lives. There is vid floating around that shows doxens upon dozens of 123/115 taxis outside an African airport. Guess Greece is up to the 124 and 210's now. Hendrik who is on bushfire alert On 08/02/14 10:01, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting. I have not seen a W115 taxi in Greece for a very long time. Even the W123 taxi is a rare sight now. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There was a guy in Olympia who had a beautiful 123 taxi, looked almost new, only had 1.5 million miles on it, 3rd engine ( which was bigger than claimed so as to keep the tax man away). He said he had to change the windshield and a front light due to rock cracks. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:26 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ha. You'll be hardpressed to even find a W210 taxi in Greece- Athens at least. They roll with the times when in comes to taxis. In the more rural parts of the country you do tend to see the older models though. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be a cycle, they start off working in central Europe and then move out into the poorer parts of Europe and then keep going until they end up in Africa or some such place, to live out their lives. There is vid floating around that shows doxens upon dozens of 123/115 taxis outside an African airport. Guess Greece is up to the 124 and 210's now. Hendrik who is on bushfire alert On 08/02/14 10:01, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting. I have not seen a W115 taxi in Greece for a very long time. Even the W123 taxi is a rare sight now. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah some a Greek cabbies take serious pride in their taxis. They will dust and shine them while waiting at taxi stops. Some of them are true gems. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was a guy in Olympia who had a beautiful 123 taxi, looked almost new, only had 1.5 million miles on it, 3rd engine ( which was bigger than claimed so as to keep the tax man away). He said he had to change the windshield and a front light due to rock cracks. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:26 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ha. You'll be hardpressed to even find a W210 taxi in Greece- Athens at least. They roll with the times when in comes to taxis. In the more rural parts of the country you do tend to see the older models though. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be a cycle, they start off working in central Europe and then move out into the poorer parts of Europe and then keep going until they end up in Africa or some such place, to live out their lives. There is vid floating around that shows doxens upon dozens of 123/115 taxis outside an African airport. Guess Greece is up to the 124 and 210's now. Hendrik who is on bushfire alert On 08/02/14 10:01, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting. I have not seen a W115 taxi in Greece for a very long time. Even the W123 taxi is a rare sight now. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I rode in one of those, maybe a 220, in Santorini a few years back. The thing really wheezed going up the hills there but must have been doing it for like 30 years. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Most 200 and 220 went into or are in Taxi service and where not sold in the US AFAIK Hendrik who is not in taxi service at the moment PS enjoy Willie Kaleb On 07/02/14 12:31, Dieselhead wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim According to wikipedia, there were about 350,000 200Ds built as W115 and 345,000 220Ds, and a few 240Ds in 115. Worldwide, a 200D should be as easy to find as a 220D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am so happy you have action on your incident. I just got a payment from the offending parties insurance company. A payment! But I had become tired of their inability to contact their client or resolve the issue in 10 weeks, so filed with my own, USAA. Car has been in the body shop for two weeks. I am really not a fan of insurance people. clay On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim According to wikipedia, there were about 350,000 200Ds built as W115 and 345,000 220Ds, and a few 240Ds in 115. Worldwide, a 200D should be as easy to find as a 220D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114 Also talks about the poosmobile 250 LWB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well I am not usually a fan either but this ins Co.- one my agent had just switched me to- spent 10k to re-store my 300CD. Because the tree was an act of God they are not supposed to raise my rates. So far so good. On Feb 6, 2014 8:47 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am so happy you have action on your incident. I just got a payment from the offending parties insurance company. A payment! But I had become tired of their inability to contact their client or resolve the issue in 10 weeks, so filed with my own, USAA. Car has been in the body shop for two weeks. I am really not a fan of insurance people. clay On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good lack jim. Last February when my 300CD took a tree during a blizzard they used Edmonds came up with a number that let them fix it. I akways thought 50% of book value was threshold for totalling. They told me 75% so it got fixed. On Feb 5, 2014 8:05 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Insurance agent called today. He was a diesel MB fan, had a 78 300D and an 84 300SD at one time. The local guy stopped by and took pictures, etc. Now he/they are to do their research. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://www.allaboutsalvage.com/yards/washington/all_about_auto_wrecking.html has a few 114/115 carcass. I have not been to the yard since last year when I snagged the w140 stuff clay On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Thin on the ground? As in there aren't any. Even Rusty had never heard of a 115.115-50- chassis number. I typically got 28 mpg in our '72 220D/8. I drove one trip ... 36.6 mpg. Well, I typically got 30, so maybe I could have hit 40 on a long road trip? I am sure she will gladly give her parts to another... If I have my druthers it'll be back on the road. The claim adjustor hasn't seen it yet. I will accept full repair to pre-crash conditions, an equivalent 115 car in as-good-as, or better condition, or cash equivalent of either. (Cash will probably turn into a Smaug pile in the living room, a few fun sessions with the BFH, and an even rattier 'heap back on the road.) I know of a really nice w115 body at a scrap yard. Should be easy to stuff onto the Mog and then drop the Heap engine Interesting... (Though the Mog is not mobile.) I guess I would also accept an engine-free good carcass, and an engine swap paid for somehow. Details on carcass? I was unable to get the 560SEL started. Just intermittent coughing, ether did not change anything so I suspect spark. I dug out the wife's 560SL instead. I _hate_ driving that in the crap, but I'm planning to be extra-careful for now. Both cars have summer tires on them... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thin on the ground? As in there aren't any. Even Rusty had never heard of a 115.115-50- chassis number. I typically got 28 mpg in our '72 220D/8. I drove one trip ... 36.6 mpg. Well, I typically got 30, so maybe I could have hit 40 on a long road trip? I am sure she will gladly give her parts to another... If I have my druthers it'll be back on the road. The claim adjustor hasn't seen it yet. I will accept full repair to pre-crash conditions, an equivalent 115 car in as-good-as, or better condition, or cash equivalent of either. (Cash will probably turn into a Smaug pile in the living room, a few fun sessions with the BFH, and an even rattier 'heap back on the road.) I know of a really nice w115 body at a scrap yard. Should be easy to stuff onto the Mog and then drop the Heap engine Interesting... (Though the Mog is not mobile.) I guess I would also accept an engine-free good carcass, and an engine swap paid for somehow. Details on carcass? I was unable to get the 560SEL started. Just intermittent coughing, ether did not change anything so I suspect spark. I dug out the wife's 560SL instead. I _hate_ driving that in the crap, but I'm planning to be extra-careful for now. Both cars have summer tires on them... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Boo. I was looking through your site the other day and realized you'd had the SEL for 3 years, my how time flies. Might this be time for a revival of the Chicken Wagon? -Curt Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:53:11 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? Message-ID: 95ae63e8-8a33-11e3-9448-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On an errand after work today, on a snowing and very icy evening, I was rear-ended at a stop light, and pounded into the car in front of me. No one was hurt, but the cars... My rear bumper was pushed in, and the trunk is jammed shut, but on the whole it doesn't look too bad. However, on the front I dove under the bumper of the SUV in front of me, which pushed the grille into the radiator, and popped it. One of the Euro headlights was smashed, as were both auxiliary high beams. The grille and surround are ruined. The hood won't open either. After all the paperwork exchange the car seemed driveable, but halfway home the heat went out. The coolant loss got to be too much, I guess. I slowed down to minimal throttle in third gear, and made it the rest of the way home air-cooled. I noticed no ill effects. I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It should be, if the engine was not toasted by the coolant-less episode. But neither the trunk nor the hood will open right now. And the pre-crash value, in the eyes of the general public at least, was low. _I_ loved the car, and how it handled the snow. And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, No AC. Pure manual everything, only needed a battery for the lights. (And starting, of course.) No power steering. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow! Glad nobody hurt; a pity to have the car messed up, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? On an errand after work today, on a snowing and very icy evening, I was rear-ended at a stop light, and pounded into the car in front of me. No one was hurt, but the cars... My rear bumper was pushed in, and the trunk is jammed shut, but on the whole it doesn't look too bad. However, on the front I dove under the bumper of the SUV in front of me, which pushed the grille into the radiator, and popped it. One of the Euro headlights was smashed, as were both auxiliary high beams. The grille and surround are ruined. The hood won't open either. After all the paperwork exchange the car seemed driveable, but halfway home the heat went out. The coolant loss got to be too much, I guess. I slowed down to minimal throttle in third gear, and made it the rest of the way home air-cooled. I noticed no ill effects. I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 30/01/2014 10:53 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: On an errand after work today, on a snowing and very icy evening, I was rear-ended at a stop light, and pounded into the car in front of me. No one was hurt, but the cars... My rear bumper was pushed in, and the trunk is jammed shut, but on the whole it doesn't look too bad. However, on the front I dove under the bumper of the SUV in front of me, which pushed the grille into the radiator, and popped it. One of the Euro headlights was smashed, as were both auxiliary high beams. The grille and surround are ruined. The hood won't open either. After all the paperwork exchange the car seemed driveable, but halfway home the heat went out. The coolant loss got to be too much, I guess. I slowed down to minimal throttle in third gear, and made it the rest of the way home air-cooled. I noticed no ill effects. I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. -- Jim Be thankful you were not injured. Find another one. Save the drivetrain (and everything else that is useful) in case the replacement is not as good and carry on. Good luck. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've got a 3 pedal 123 you could have for a song, shipping might be a problem though... -Curt Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:47:53 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? Message-ID: a9fa3fe2-8a86-11e3-9448-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It should be, if the engine was not toasted by the coolant-less episode. But neither the trunk nor the hood will open right now. And the pre-crash value, in the eyes of the general public at least, was low. _I_ loved the car, and how it handled the snow. And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, No AC. Pure manual everything, only needed a battery for the lights. (And starting, of course.) No power steering. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Cathey wrote: The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. Can't you stick the cast iron trans out of the 115 in it? I think the 115 pedal group fits in the 116, if it would fit the 123 you'd be in business. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It should be, if the engine was not toasted by the coolant-less episode. But neither the trunk nor the hood will open right now. And the pre-crash value, in the eyes of the general public at least, was low. _I_ loved the car, and how it handled the snow. And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, No AC. Pure manual everything, only needed a battery for the lights. (And starting, of course.) No power steering. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. -- Jim Did you see the 115 I posted yesterday? Price was not quite in the frankenheap range, but you might get it bought right. I think a 220D would get 30 mpg too. I could get 32 with my 110 on the road. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Can't you stick the cast iron trans out of the 115 in it [123]? It just wouldn't be the same. I took some pictures, and managed to get the trunk open. It's bent, the thing really doesn't want to open. There's more damage back there than I thought, a taillight lens is broken, and the trunk lid line on the right doesn't fit anymore. The hood line is also not good on the right, and with the snow brushed off I see a big crease in the hood. I managed to hammer the hood open, getting a prybar behind the lever to release it. (This is actually fairly easy with the grille missing, and some good light. Once open I could see that the radiator had been pushed into the fan, and there was coolant all over the engine. Nuts. I was, with some difficulty, able to remove the radiator, fan, and shroud. Easy access, now. The car can probably be rendered driveable relatively easily, but it's definitely been done some real damage. To wit: Right taillight broken, but still operable; Rear bumper pushed in; Rear trunk wall pushed in; Trunk lid bent; Right headlight smashed. Bulbs still OK, but open to weather; Auxiliary driving lights destroyed; Radiator holed; Radiator support pushed in, horn support strut bent; Hood creased; Right fender front pushed in; Grille and surround destroyed; That's a pretty long list. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:51:51 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I got our replacement Euro headlights off eBay. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. Thin on the ground? I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. I find automatic transmissions in the snow are not too bad, as long as you remember to shift into neutral when you need to slow down or stop. I think a 220D would get 30 mpg too. I could get 32 with my 110 on the road. I typically got 28 mpg in our '72 220D/8. I drove one trip from Sacramento, California, to Seattle, Washington. I stopped overnight in Eugene, Oregon, at my parents' house and then fueled up in Portland. I was rather nervous toward the end that I would run out of fuel, but I didn't. 36.6 mpg. I cheated in the northern California mountains by coasting down the hills. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am very saddened to hear of the demise of the Frankenheap. She was a good car. I am sure she will gladly give her parts to another great Cathey project. Time to look at www.murphyauction.com There are a goodly number of newer silver stars on the block at 11am. Bid online. Based on the condition of the cars, I do not expect bids to be very high. These are consignments from a third tier dealer. CLK, C, w210, SLK, ML. All about 12-14 years old clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: On an errand after work today, on a snowing and very icy evening, I was rear-ended at a stop light, and pounded into the car in front of me. No one was hurt, but the cars... My rear bumper was pushed in, and the trunk is jammed shut, but on the whole it doesn't look too bad. However, on the front I dove under the bumper of the SUV in front of me, which pushed the grille into the radiator, and popped it. One of the Euro headlights was smashed, as were both auxiliary high beams. The grille and surround are ruined. The hood won't open either. After all the paperwork exchange the car seemed driveable, but halfway home the heat went out. The coolant loss got to be too much, I guess. I slowed down to minimal throttle in third gear, and made it the rest of the way home air-cooled. I noticed no ill effects. I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe you can find headlamps on german ebay. I got a set out of Lithuania for Gump. clay On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It should be, if the engine was not toasted by the coolant-less episode. But neither the trunk nor the hood will open right now. And the pre-crash value, in the eyes of the general public at least, was low. _I_ loved the car, and how it handled the snow. And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, No AC. Pure manual everything, only needed a battery for the lights. (And starting, of course.) No power steering. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know of a really nice w115 body at a scrap yard. Should be easy to stuff onto the Mog and then drop the Heap engine clay On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Can't you stick the cast iron trans out of the 115 in it [123]? It just wouldn't be the same. I took some pictures, and managed to get the trunk open. It's bent, the thing really doesn't want to open. There's more damage back there than I thought, a taillight lens is broken, and the trunk lid line on the right doesn't fit anymore. The hood line is also not good on the right, and with the snow brushed off I see a big crease in the hood. I managed to hammer the hood open, getting a prybar behind the lever to release it. (This is actually fairly easy with the grille missing, and some good light. Once open I could see that the radiator had been pushed into the fan, and there was coolant all over the engine. Nuts. I was, with some difficulty, able to remove the radiator, fan, and shroud. Easy access, now. The car can probably be rendered driveable relatively easily, but it's definitely been done some real damage. To wit: Right taillight broken, but still operable; Rear bumper pushed in; Rear trunk wall pushed in; Trunk lid bent; Right headlight smashed. Bulbs still OK, but open to weather; Auxiliary driving lights destroyed; Radiator holed; Radiator support pushed in, horn support strut bent; Hood creased; Right fender front pushed in; Grille and surround destroyed; That's a pretty long list. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dashing through the snow In a one horsepower Mercedes 200D Over the fields we go Laughing all the way. bells on frankenheap ring making spirits bright What fun it is to ride and sing A Benzing song tonight. Seriously though the /8 are getting a bit rarer, they either seem to be complete crapboxes or overpriced garage queens maybe get a petrol one and convert it into son of Frankenheap http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-Base-1974-mercedes-280-beautiful-like-new-original-/271383652937?forcerrptr=truehash=item3f2fb9ea49item=271383652937pt=US_Cars_Trucks Wonder what it will get to? Hendrik whose parents used to have a 220D many years ago Read more:Christmas Carols - Jingle Bells Lyrics | MetroLyrics http://www.metrolyrics.com/jingle-bells-lyrics-christmas-carols.html#ixzz2s397gjwp On 01/02/14 16:30, clay wrote: Maybe you can find headlamps on german ebay. I got a set out of Lithuania for Gump. clay On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It should be, if the engine was not toasted by the coolant-less episode. But neither the trunk nor the hood will open right now. And the pre-crash value, in the eyes of the general public at least, was low. _I_ loved the car, and how it handled the snow. And where am I even going to find another Euro headlight? I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, No AC. Pure manual everything, only needed a battery for the lights. (And starting, of course.) No power steering. 115.115-50- cars are rather thin on the ground. 200D W115 3-pedal. Was column shift, but somebody converted it. The Chicken Wagon would be a natural substitute, but its tranny went out. I've been hoping it was a B2 problem, but I don't know. Now that I need it, of course, it's unusable. I happen to really hate automatic transmissions in the snow, though. The 'heap just gave you so much control in comparison. And 30MPG. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
On an errand after work today, on a snowing and very icy evening, I was rear-ended at a stop light, and pounded into the car in front of me. No one was hurt, but the cars... My rear bumper was pushed in, and the trunk is jammed shut, but on the whole it doesn't look too bad. However, on the front I dove under the bumper of the SUV in front of me, which pushed the grille into the radiator, and popped it. One of the Euro headlights was smashed, as were both auxiliary high beams. The grille and surround are ruined. The hood won't open either. After all the paperwork exchange the car seemed driveable, but halfway home the heat went out. The coolant loss got to be too much, I guess. I slowed down to minimal throttle in third gear, and made it the rest of the way home air-cooled. I noticed no ill effects. I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:53:11 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm pretty saddened by the whole thing, I'm not sure what to do next. I've been driving this car in winters for about 10 years now, loving every minute of it. Quoting an old movie (I think), She's dead, Jim. Humor aside it still sounds very fixable. It sounds like our 240D/3.0 after I was driving into a bright morning sun (low humidity up here, remember) and didn't stop soon enough to avoid rear-ending someone. I repaired it and it's running now. (And, in fact, has been in two accidents caused by others since.) I'll send you pictures off list to show you what it looked like. My mistake was assuming the A/C condenser was punctured as well as the radiator and going ahead and cutting it out. Lots of loud hissing noise and oil fog! I presume the Frankenheap doesn't have A/C, but I could be wrong. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
