[MBZ] Report on Prius
A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius-headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high priced. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I just don't understand why people keep buying cars from a company that consistently and repeatedly conceals problems almost all of which are related to safety. And I further don't understand why Toyotas reliability rankings continue to be as high as they are. Here is a quote from the blog in the link below: The suit claims that a defect causes at least one headlight to function sporadically when the vehicle is being driven, and that Toyota knew of the problem and concealed it from prospective buyers. This is classic Toyota. Frankly, I find it nauseating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:53 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius-headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high priced. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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There is no toada that is worth the price IMHO. I don't believe I will ever buy a toada. For new ones, the stealers want over list price, for used ones the prices are way high. The car is no better than anything else at best. Domestics have gotten a lot better. If I had to buy a non-MB, I'd probably buy a domestic brand, or maybe a Korean Kadylac. Consumer Reports continues their fraud. the rag must be owned by toada. I have not believed anything they say for the past 15-20 years. If MB or any domestic mfgr had designed lights that shut off because a bulb goes out, they would have been sued off the map. Toada gets a pass...WHY? If I wanted headlights that don't work I'd buy a jaguwar, or MG or turnip or other car wired by the prince of darkness. I just don't understand why people keep buying cars from a company that consistently and repeatedly conceals problems almost all of which are related to safety. And I further don't understand why Toyotas reliability rankings continue to be as high as they are. Here is a quote from the blog in the link below: The suit claims that a defect causes at least one headlight to function sporadically when the vehicle is being driven, and that Toyota knew of the problem and concealed it from prospective buyers. This is classic Toyota. Frankly, I find it nauseating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:53 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius-headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high priced. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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My BIL had a new car at Thanksgiving, a hybrid Camry I think, or maybe one of the other toadas, it was largish. He got it for $23k, was a 2014 model they were moving fast. I thought that a pretty good price. His work commute is like 30miles and he has calculated it is saving him a fair amount of gas over the 200kmi Volvo sedan he traded on it. It seemed like a decent car when I rode in it on a B double-E double-R UN. --R On 12/11/14 9:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: There is no toada that is worth the price IMHO. I don't believe I will ever buy a toada. For new ones, the stealers want over list price, for used ones the prices are way high. The car is no better than anything else at best. Domestics have gotten a lot better. If I had to buy a non-MB, I'd probably buy a domestic brand, or maybe a Korean Kadylac. Consumer Reports continues their fraud. the rag must be owned by toada. I have not believed anything they say for the past 15-20 years. If MB or any domestic mfgr had designed lights that shut off because a bulb goes out, they would have been sued off the map. Toada gets a pass...WHY? If I wanted headlights that don't work I'd buy a jaguwar, or MG or turnip or other car wired by the prince of darkness. I just don't understand why people keep buying cars from a company that consistently and repeatedly conceals problems almost all of which are related to safety. And I further don't understand why Toyotas reliability rankings continue to be as high as they are. Here is a quote from the blog in the link below: The suit claims that a defect causes at least one headlight to function sporadically when the vehicle is being driven, and that Toyota knew of the problem and concealed it from prospective buyers. This is classic Toyota. Frankly, I find it nauseating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:53 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius-headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high priced. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
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What did he get for his aged Volvo in trade? On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My BIL had a new car at Thanksgiving, a hybrid Camry I think, or maybe one of the other toadas, it was largish. He got it for $23k, was a 2014 model they were moving fast. I thought that a pretty good price. His work commute is like 30miles and he has calculated it is saving him a fair amount of gas over the 200kmi Volvo sedan he traded on it. It seemed like a decent car when I rode in it on a B double-E double-R UN. --R On 12/11/14 9:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: There is no toada that is worth the price IMHO. I don't believe I will ever buy a toada. For new ones, the stealers want over list price, for used ones the prices are way high. The car is no better than anything else at best. Domestics have gotten a lot better. If I had to buy a non-MB, I'd probably buy a domestic brand, or maybe a Korean Kadylac. Consumer Reports continues their fraud. the rag must be owned by toada. I have not believed anything they say for the past 15-20 years. If MB or any domestic mfgr had designed lights that shut off because a bulb goes out, they would have been sued off the map. Toada gets a pass...WHY? If I wanted headlights that don't work I'd buy a jaguwar, or MG or turnip or other car wired by the prince of darkness. I just don't understand why people keep buying cars from a company that consistently and repeatedly conceals problems almost all of which are related to safety. And I further don't understand why Toyotas reliability rankings continue to be as high as they are. Here is a quote from the blog in the link below: The suit claims that a defect causes at least one headlight to function sporadically when the vehicle is being driven, and that Toyota knew of the problem and concealed it from prospective buyers. This is classic Toyota. Frankly, I find it nauseating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:53 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius- headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high
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I don't know, it was due for timing chain and a bunch of other work, which was going to cost a lot on a 200kmi vehicle. It was in great shape, mostly all road miles, looked nearly new, but the dealer would probably wholesale it off to some used dealer and unsuspecting buyer. I'll ask him at some point. --R On 12/11/14 11:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: What did he get for his aged Volvo in trade? On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My BIL had a new car at Thanksgiving, a hybrid Camry I think, or maybe one of the other toadas, it was largish. He got it for $23k, was a 2014 model they were moving fast. I thought that a pretty good price. His work commute is like 30miles and he has calculated it is saving him a fair amount of gas over the 200kmi Volvo sedan he traded on it. It seemed like a decent car when I rode in it on a B double-E double-R UN. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
