Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
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Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down.Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Yeah, what he said. If you ever need to remove the shift lever, it has a little (capture? I think you call that arrangement) nut at the bottom you loosen then you can screw out the lever. To put it back, screw it down to where you want it, lined up properly, then tighten the nut to hold it tight. --R On 10/18/2010 9:04 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down.Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
On 10/18/2010 8:09 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console? It is so well molded into the side of that console that you can't believe it is there!! Look for a little seam on top. Can sometimes pull it sideways with your fingernail! Think the bulb is about 1/2 inch long. Got mine at O'Reily after looking everywhere for years Good Luck! I was able to reach in by just removing the rubber trim around the top, after I found it the first time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Removing the shift lever is a job best left to a professional, since there is a major downside of disabling the car) if I screw it up by either losing or breaking one of those vital small parts that allow one to shift the PRNDL. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah, what he said. If you ever need to remove the shift lever, it has a little (capture? I think you call that arrangement) nut at the bottom you loosen then you can screw out the lever. To put it back, screw it down to where you want it, lined up properly, then tighten the nut to hold it tight. --R On 10/18/2010 9:04 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down.Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Jaime, One more question and I then I will shut up. After lifting the wood console cover I removed the three bolts holding down the PRNDL plate and lifted it up in search of the bulb, as there was none visible. Is this step necessary, or is the bulb holder externally mounted on the shifter housing? I don't recall seeing this. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down.Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Chris, I like your minimalist approach. Does the bulb cover pry off in the direction toward the front or rear of the car? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: On 10/18/2010 8:09 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console? It is so well molded into the side of that console that you can't believe it is there!! Look for a little seam on top. Can sometimes pull it sideways with your fingernail! Think the bulb is about 1/2 inch long. Got mine at O'Reily after looking everywhere for years Good Luck! I was able to reach in by just removing the rubber trim around the top, after I found it the first time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
Its externally mounted... you don't need to remove the bolts that hold down the shift gate. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:07 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, One more question and I then I will shut up. After lifting the wood console cover I removed the three bolts holding down the PRNDL plate and lifted it up in search of the bulb, as there was none visible. Is this step necessary, or is the bulb holder externally mounted on the shifter housing? I don't recall seeing this. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down. Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
I don't know why you would leave it to a pro, it is just a nut you loosen on the threaded end of the lever, then the lever screws out, nothing to lose (but something to loose). It goes into a rather substantial piece of metal at the bottom, you'll see it. --R On 10/18/2010 10:59 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Removing the shift lever is a job best left to a professional, since there is a major downside of disabling the car) if I screw it up by either losing or breaking one of those vital small parts that allow one to shift the PRNDL. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah, what he said. If you ever need to remove the shift lever, it has a little (capture? I think you call that arrangement) nut at the bottom you loosen then you can screw out the lever. To put it back, screw it down to where you want it, lined up properly, then tighten the nut to hold it tight. --R On 10/18/2010 9:04 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its not as hard as you think - Remove ash tray, and ash tray frame (2 screws). You'll have to disconnect the connector for the cig lighter that attaches to the frame. Just pry the frame out of the console, starting with the right side. Connector is on the left. - Lift up front edge of wood... slide the whole piece back a bit to clear the bin that holds the back part of the wood down.Then you can lift it up. This might take a little wiggling, as the wires, etc restrict movement. - Now reach under and disconnect windows, hazard sw, fader, etc. Remove wood. - Bulb holder is now clearly visible on the left side of the shifter housing. Pry it out with a screw driver. You don't need to remove the knob or the shift gate. Remove the bulb, goto the store and match it up. After you've done it once or twice, you can do this job in about 10 minutes. Jaime On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's try again. I can open up and even completely remove the wood console if I have to but 1) do I newed to remove the *shifter knob*, and 2) *where will I find the elusive bulb*? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Opening up the 126 and 123 console is not that hard, I always have to review the section in the manual because I always forget the steps. I have discovered that a little swiveling inspection mirror is a wonderful tool to observe all those hidden bits. What were they thinking? Our German bulbs last a lifetime... --R On 10/17/2010 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Not that much. It seems like you're making it more complicated than necessary. Once you get a good look at it and figure out how the bulb carrier pops out, you'll probably say Oh. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
I went hunting for a dead bulb in the shifter assembly of my 1985 300TD this afternoon. But when I freed up the PRNDL cover I couldn't find the bulb! WTF? There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. I now am wondering whether the illumination runs via a thin fibreoptic cable off the fibreoptic mother board behind the ACC assembly. TIA, Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
That's how it works in the '84 190 - fiber optic strand from somehwere in the dash. On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:00 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I went hunting for a dead bulb in the shifter assembly of my 1985 300TD this afternoon. But when I freed up the PRNDL cover I couldn't find the bulb! WTF? There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. I now am wondering whether the illumination runs via a thin fibreoptic cable off the fibreoptic mother board behind the ACC assembly. TIA, Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs ___ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
I believe it does. Dan --- On Sun, 10/17/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 5:00 PM I went hunting for a dead bulb in the shifter assembly of my 1985 300TD this afternoon. But when I freed up the PRNDL cover I couldn't find the bulb! WTF? There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. I now am wondering whether the illumination runs via a thin fibreoptic cable off the fibreoptic mother board behind the ACC assembly. TIA, Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
No fiber optics... there is a bulb holder thats pushed into the left side of the shifter housing with a wire connected to it.You should see it when you remove the wood around the shifter. The bulb is a funny one... not the ones found in the rest of the dash lights. Jaime On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I went hunting for a dead bulb in the shifter assembly of my 1985 300TD this afternoon. But when I freed up the PRNDL cover I couldn't find the bulb! WTF? There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. I now am wondering whether the illumination runs via a thin fibreoptic cable off the fibreoptic mother board behind the ACC assembly. TIA, Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
What do I have to remove to get at this mystery bulb? Both PW switches, 4 way flasher, fader switch and the console wood?? The shifter knob itself?? If there is a bulb it has to be TINY and nearly INACCESSIBLE. Is it unique? What were they thinking? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: There was a wire leading in but I felt around and couldn't find a bulb. It's there, keep trying. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
