Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: They are expensive by definition! ...but probably last 20 years with annual fluid changes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
I have new ATE for $181.00 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:39 PM To: Dimitri Seretakis; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild? Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: Just go to Autozone or Advance. They will give you a rebuilt unit for $60-70. Not worth the effort to rebuild yourself- the rebuild kit is not cheap either! Does Rusty not sell brake calipers anymore? Why go to the bottom of the barrel? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Hmmm. Now that is a good price! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have new ATE for $181.00 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:39 PM To: Dimitri Seretakis; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild? Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: Just go to Autozone or Advance. They will give you a rebuilt unit for $60-70. Not worth the effort to rebuild yourself- the rebuild kit is not cheap either! Does Rusty not sell brake calipers anymore? Why go to the bottom of the barrel? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
During the '60s you could buy new chrome plated pistons. On the 110 we replaced the pistons/seals and rubbed the cylinders with increasingly fine wetordry. The calipers were fine for 100K plus miles until it was sold. If new chrome pistons were available today I would rebuild the calipers instead of buying new calipers which are quite expensive. Gerry From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com I've had hit or miss success with them. Some have lasted for years, some leak right away. If they're not too expensive, I like to buy new ones. Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: I always feared that but the rebuilds have worked fine for me so far. At some point, though, I'd like to rebuild one myself for purely academic reasons:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Consider the quality of the parts used by the cheap rebuilder if the price of the OE kit is comparable! Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5316 - Release Date: 10/07/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
During the '60s you could buy new chrome plated pistons. On the 110 we replaced the pistons/seals and rubbed the cylinders with increasingly fine wetordry. The calipers were fine for 100K plus miles until it was sold. If new chrome pistons were available today I would rebuild the calipers instead of buying new calipers which are quite expensive. Gerry If they are still around, White Post restorations used to advertise in the Star. He did Stainless Steel sleeves for Master cyl, brake Cyl and I think for calipers. I can't remember his name. He was an Enginerror with the attitude that he was holier than thou. I am sure his work was good though. I only ran into him one time at an MBCA national event, before he started doing the rebuilds. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com During the '60s you could buy new chrome plated pistons. On the 110 we replaced the pistons/seals and rubbed the cylinders with increasingly fine wetordry. The calipers were fine for 100K plus miles until it was sold. If new chrome pistons were available today I would rebuild the calipers instead of buying new calipers which are quite expensive. Gerry If they are still around, White Post restorations used to advertise in the Star. He did Stainless Steel sleeves for Master cyl, brake Cyl and I think for calipers. I can't remember his name. He was an Enginerror with the attitude that he was holier than thou. I am sure his work was good though. I only ran into him one time at an MBCA national event, before he started doing the rebuilds. He's still around. http://www.whitepost.com/brake.html I'll contact him when I get ready to do the brakes. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
I've done the buff it out, replace the rubber bit successfully a couple of times over the years--- On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Do we rebuild calipers? Are there reliable rebuilders? Do we split the caliper, or just buff out, replace boots, seals? I thought I recall years ago we were told that splitting the caliper meant probably leaks? Mechanic son splits rebuilds his airhead calipers successfully. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Just go to Autozone or Advance. They will give you a rebuilt unit for $60-70. Not worth the effort to rebuild yourself- the rebuild kit is not cheap either! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Do we rebuild calipers? Are there reliable rebuilders? Do we split the caliper, or just buff out, replace boots, seals? I thought I recall years ago we were told that splitting the caliper meant probably leaks? Mechanic son splits rebuilds his airhead calipers successfully. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Rebuld is fairly easy, but you have to get the piston in at the correct angle to prevent squealing. You should only clean the bore ABOVE the seal, never touch the surface below the seal with anything but solvent. If you change the size, the caliper is likely to seize from cocking in the bore, particularly when pads are worn, and if you leave any grit in there, they will drag. Never separate the halves, it's difficult to get the metal seals in there to seal again, and alignment is fairly critical. It's not hard to lift the pistons out if they are not stuck, and brake fluid and the pedal works pretty well if they are stuck. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Everything short of split was ok with the late Dr M.B. I think some folks here have split them. I've gotten by just fine without. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Do we rebuild calipers? Are there reliable rebuilders? Do we split the caliper, or just buff out, replace boots, seals? I thought I recall years ago we were told that splitting the caliper meant probably leaks? Mechanic son splits rebuilds his airhead calipers successfully. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Ha. I just realized that Marshall Booth's initials are MB! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Everything short of split was ok with the late Dr M.B. I think some folks here have split them. I've gotten by just fine without. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Do we rebuild calipers? Are there reliable rebuilders? Do we split the caliper, or just buff out, replace boots, seals? I thought I recall years ago we were told that splitting the caliper meant probably leaks? Mechanic son splits rebuilds his airhead calipers successfully. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Consider the quality of the parts used by the cheap rebuilder if the price of the OE kit is comparable! Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
I always feared that but the rebuilds have worked fine for me so far. At some point, though, I'd like to rebuild one myself for purely academic reasons:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Consider the quality of the parts used by the cheap rebuilder if the price of the OE kit is comparable! Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Sure new is best but super pricey! I've had luck with Advance or Autozone. They use the same remanufacturer-Cardone. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
I've had hit or miss success with them. Some have lasted for years, some leak right away. If they're not too expensive, I like to buy new ones. Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: I always feared that but the rebuilds have worked fine for me so far. At some point, though, I'd like to rebuild one myself for purely academic reasons:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Consider the quality of the parts used by the cheap rebuilder if the price of the OE kit is comparable! Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
They are expensive by definition! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've had hit or miss success with them. Some have lasted for years, some leak right away. If they're not too expensive, I like to buy new ones. Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: I always feared that but the rebuilds have worked fine for me so far. At some point, though, I'd like to rebuild one myself for purely academic reasons:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Consider the quality of the parts used by the cheap rebuilder if the price of the OE kit is comparable! Jaime On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: WOW!! A real variety of opinion on this - thanks. Cocking the piston, grit - sounds tough but do-able for ASE mech, but price of kit versus rebuilt from provider seems marginally better. Nobody recommends new? Are new from walmart, aka china? Are rebuild from walmart? Any recommended rebuilders to stick to? Advance/Zone/NAPA recommended preference? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 caliper rebuild?
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: Just go to Autozone or Advance. They will give you a rebuilt unit for $60-70. Not worth the effort to rebuild yourself- the rebuild kit is not cheap either! Does Rusty not sell brake calipers anymore? Why go to the bottom of the barrel? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
