Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Anyone have the part number for the 123 striker?

Seems I have a bad one now.


fmiser via Mercedes 
February 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM

Dan wrote:



The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time
latching - that is, I have to slam it to get it to close
completely.


Is it the same as a 123?

I have had many fail.  The symptom is it take a harder, and harder
slam to get it to latch.


I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?


On the 123, it has _always_ been the strike on the body, not the
latch on the door.  I cannot tell by looking if it is worn out.
Careful measuring revealed nothing consistent.  Adjusting and
lubricating were of no help.  Replace with a new one, and it works
right.

This has happened on least 4-6 123 doors - both front and back.

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 21, 2017 at 6:16 AM
The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - 
that is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely.


This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened 
to suggest something is broken. In all honesty, I’ve never had an 
issue with a door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.


I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way 
that i can tell. When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays 
closed, so the mechanism is certainly working. The strike is not loose.


I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?

I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at 
all. I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….


Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yep, and a 2 lb hammer makes em work good, and helps to loosen the screw.


OK Don via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 7:49 PM
What Rick said - those work great for Phillips head screws, as the hammer
drives the bit into the slot while banging and turning it. Highly
recommended for this application.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Rick said - those work great for Phillips head screws, as the hammer
drives the bit into the slot while banging and turning it. Highly
recommended for this application.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume
> they are similar to the 126.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?
> ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70&
> amp;keywords=hand+impact+driver
>
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

That's where the big difference between the hand impact and the 
air or electric guns comes in. With the hand impact every time 
you hit with the hammer the bit is forced into the screw head and 
that alone will make it hold onto the screw much better.

those things were a required tool for working on the older bikes.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Curly sez:

‎>For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt >battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.

Yes, but... if it has started to round out, an electric impact will make quick 
work of finishing the job. There are hand impacts less than fifteen bucks. I 
just picked the first in the list.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curly sez:

‎>For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt >battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.

Yes, but... if it has started to round out, an electric impact will make quick 
work of finishing the job. There are hand impacts less than fifteen bucks. I 
just picked the first in the list.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.


Impact wrench is the way to go.

I've beat on the hand impact wrenches.  In the 60s and 70s, if you had a 
hondog motorsickle, the hand impact and a 2 lb hammer were the first 2 
tools you needed.  Hondogs and a lot of other asian junk uses very soft 
bolts.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 4:21 PM
I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume 
they are similar to the 126.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

Oh yeah I forgot about that one. That works good.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume they are 
similar to the 126.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

Kroil for a while then pop the screw heads a good lick or two 
with a hammer and try again to loosen them.
Rinse and repeat and if not you could also put the hex driver in 
and hit that good and hard with a hammer. sooner or later it 
should come loose.


Worse comes to worse just drill out the head just enough for it 
to pop off, take the stop off and use a vise grip to turn what's 
left of the screw out. Without the head they usually come out 
real easy.


Manfred

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
Is there a trick to this?




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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume they are 
similar to the 126.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get replacements on hand and drill the old ones out.

They’re stupidly soft for some weird reason.  My driver’s door strike can loose 
without effort, but in the interim I was going to swap the rear onto the 
driver’s door until the replacement came.  The rear door bolts all tried to 
round off, so I left them alone.

At least that would be my approach.  They would be easy to drill out and simple 
to grab ahold of once the strike is removed.

-D

> On Feb 26, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and 
> cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex 
> socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
> Is there a trick to this?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and 
cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex 
socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
Is there a trick to this?



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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As I mentioned in a later post, the little plastic tab on the bottom was 
missing.  This appears to trigger the latch to “grab” and close, hence the 
having to slam the door to get it to latch.

I replaced the strike with the new one before I left for work yesterday.  Took 
all of about two minutes, now the door latches and closes with the requisite MB 
“thunk”.

Dan

> On Feb 24, 2017, at 12:04 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time
>> latching - that is, I have to slam it to get it to close
>> completely.
> 
> Is it the same as a 123?
> 
> I have had many fail.  The symptom is it take a harder, and harder
> slam to get it to latch.
> 
>> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?
> 
> On the 123, it has _always_ been the strike on the body, not the
> latch on the door.  I cannot tell by looking if it is worn out.
> Careful measuring revealed nothing consistent.  Adjusting and
> lubricating were of no help.  Replace with a new one, and it works
> right.
> 
> This has happened on least 4-6 123 doors - both front and back.
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time
> latching - that is, I have to slam it to get it to close
> completely.

Is it the same as a 123?

I have had many fail.  The symptom is it take a harder, and harder
slam to get it to latch.

> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?

On the 123, it has _always_ been the strike on the body, not the
latch on the door.  I cannot tell by looking if it is worn out.
Careful measuring revealed nothing consistent.  Adjusting and
lubricating were of no help.  Replace with a new one, and it works
right.

This has happened on least 4-6 123 doors - both front and back.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

A work-around that worked for me is this:  Instead of just giving the open door 
a shove, keep a hold of the handle and put some "close" pressure on the door 
just as it closes.  It sounds funky but it's better than multiple slams.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that 
> is, I
> have to slam it to get it to close completely.
> 
> This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to
> suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a
> door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.
> 
> I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i can 
> tell.
> When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, so the
> mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.
> 
> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?
> 
> I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at all.  
> I’m
> going to do some googling and see what I can find out….
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds to me like that death trap is going down hill fast, time to dump it
and get out before it sucks you dry.  I'll give you $1000.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got a look at it before we left to get the 300SEL.  The little plastic thingy 
on the bottom is broken off.

Thanks, Gerry! (I think you were the one that suggested this was the issue?)

-D


> On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s dry and there’s no lubricant on it, at least not in the way of grease.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> latch is gummed up with that white lithium crap.  Real fix is to take it out 
>> and take it apart and clean it, then grease with molykote BR2.   Practical 
>> fix is to spray the snot out of it with contact cleaner, brake cleaner, carb 
>> cleaner, etc. and work the snot out of it.   Then spray in some oil.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s dry and there’s no lubricant on it, at least not in the way of grease.

-D

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> latch is gummed up with that white lithium crap.  Real fix is to take it out 
> and take it apart and clean it, then grease with molykote BR2.   Practical 
> fix is to spray the snot out of it with contact cleaner, brake cleaner, carb 
> cleaner, etc. and work the snot out of it.   Then spray in some oil.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

latch is gummed up with that white lithium crap.  Real fix is to take it 
out and take it apart and clean it, then grease with molykote BR2.   
Practical fix is to spray the snot out of it with contact cleaner, brake 
cleaner, carb cleaner, etc. and work the snot out of it.   Then spray in 
some oil.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 21, 2017 at 6:16 AM
The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - 
that is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely.


This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened 
to suggest something is broken. In all honesty, I’ve never had an 
issue with a door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.


I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way 
that i can tell. When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays 
closed, so the mechanism is certainly working. The strike is not loose.


I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?

I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at 
all. I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….


Thanks,

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Save your bad strikers, and if I come up with a fix I'll post it. The new ones 
I've bought don't last very long.  
~
> Yeah, my googling suggests that the little plastic piece on the bottom of the 
> strike is either worn or broken off.  I haven’t looked at it closely but will 
> later this morning.  The part is NLA from Mercedes so I ordered one from 
> Amazon that’s made by Meyle.  Not ideal, but they appear to be the only 
> decent supplier making them now.  The rest are MTC/APA/URO.  Ugh.
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
> 
> > On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:16:53 -0500
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:
> > 
> >> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that 
> >> is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely.
> >> 
> >> This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to 
> >> suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with 
> >> a door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.
> >> 
> >> I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i 
> >> can tell.  When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, 
> >> so the mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.
> >> 
> >> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?
> >> 
> >> I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at 
> >> all.  I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Dan
> > '
> > If it's like the latch on my '83 300D and 240D, it could either be a small 
> > piece of rubber that sticks out, intercepts the door latch, and breaks off 
> > (look closely for where a piece of rubber has broken off); or the stricker 
> > could have gotten loose and was pushed back.
> > Striker must be replaced for broken off rubber, or readjusted and tightened 
> > for one that's pushed back.
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

I had that problem on my W123 and found debris was in the female latch 
component in the door frame.  IOW, the door has a Pin and the frame as a 
place for the pin to fit.  I cleaned it and the door worked grear.


LarryT


On 02/21/2017 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been havitime latching - that is, I have to 
slam it to get it to close completely.

This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to 
suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a 
door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.

I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i can 
tell.  When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, so the 
mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.

I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?

I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at all.  
I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, my googling suggests that the little plastic piece on the bottom of the 
strike is either worn or broken off.  I haven’t looked at it closely but will 
later this morning.  The part is NLA from Mercedes so I ordered one from Amazon 
that’s made by Meyle.  Not ideal, but they appear to be the only decent 
supplier making them now.  The rest are MTC/APA/URO.  Ugh.

Thanks!

Dan


> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:16:53 -0500
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that 
>> is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely.
>> 
>> This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to 
>> suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a 
>> door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.
>> 
>> I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i 
>> can tell.  When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, so 
>> the mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.
>> 
>> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?
>> 
>> I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at all.  
>> I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
> '
> If it's like the latch on my '83 300D and 240D, it could either be a small 
> piece of rubber that sticks out, intercepts the door latch, and breaks off 
> (look closely for where a piece of rubber has broken off); or the stricker 
> could have gotten loose and was pushed back.
> Striker must be replaced for broken off rubber, or readjusted and tightened 
> for one that's pushed back.
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:16:53 -0500
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:

> The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that 
> is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely.
> 
> This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to 
> suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a 
> door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.
> 
> I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i can 
> tell.  When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, so the 
> mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.
> 
> I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?
> 
> I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at all.  
> I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
'
If it's like the latch on my '83 300D and 240D, it could either be a small 
piece of rubber that sticks out, intercepts the door latch, and breaks off 
(look closely for where a piece of rubber has broken off); or the stricker 
could have gotten loose and was pushed back.
Striker must be replaced for broken off rubber, or readjusted and tightened for 
one that's pushed back.

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[MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that is, 
I have to slam it to get it to close completely.

This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to 
suggest something is broken.  In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a 
door latch on a Mercedes, so this is completely new to me.

I looked at the strike and it doesn’t appear to be worn in any way that i can 
tell.  When you slam the door is certainly latches and stays closed, so the 
mechanism is certainly working.  The strike is not loose.

I’m wondering if the strike is simply worn out?

I want to address this before it gets ugly and the door won’t latch at all.  
I’m going to do some googling and see what I can find out….

Thanks,

Dan
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